Wheel and Tire Balancing, right and wrong way : Lucore Automotive
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2019
- Not everything we do here revolves around Old School Hot Rods and modern Tuner Cars / Race Cars, we do a whole lot of normal daily driver stuff too! In today's video we are working on a customers Toyota Tundra pickup truck and finding a remedy for his steering wheel vibration. The wheels and tires were done a few months back at a national chain store and well.. you'll see.
There are a LOT of responsibilities a technician / mechanic has, one of your most common is getting wheels and tires properly mounted and balanced however the process isn't as easy as most people think! So here we cut together a quick little video to show a bit of the process and what to do, and NOT do when it comes to this!
No wheels or tires were harmed in the making of this video! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just started at a tire shop and now I realize the insanity that is on this tire. Lol.
@@amaturetechnician8405 same here. We actually got one in the other day that had 28 quarter ounce weights that took up about half the tire. Lol
@@RileyNA whoa! You guys are in for a struggle on some modern vehicles! Hopefully you have the ability to force match a wheel/tire to get weight usage down!
@@LucoreAuto lol, oh I meant that's how many were on it before we rebalanced it. I wouldn't dream of doing what some shops do.
If you are interested in this subject still, check out the new MUCH more in depth video we just recently put out about mounting and balancing.
czcams.com/video/3JfK7npO2TQ/video.html
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As an ASE master certified tech for 12 years, all you had to do is unseat the tire from the rim and shift it half a turn and reseat it, throw it back on the balancer and let it run and you will see a dramatic difference in weights needed. Also the wheel balancing machine is calibrated very carefully and by having a mechanic lean his extra weight on the machine tend to throw it out of balance which can cause false readings. I never lean on the machine when it is running. Something to think about.
Damn, got my first class today for this thanks
Yes a agree bra moon said it old school 😅
where tf do i learn how to balance properly
good job showing how many things you can encounter and it takes time to get it right sometimes longer
Great video thanks for sharing problem for most of us is finding the shop that’s willing to go the extra mile like you guys do
Great vid, get those guys some AC in that shop my man sweatin bullets!
Lol thank you! It definitely does get hot on the shop floor!
:: yes il have my own shop soon and crazy to see some small shops pay like $12 for shop help... That's not how it's suppose to be along with not using that roll machine... Yes it takes longer but research shows 60% less come-back rate...... I'm glad I was able to work for a Tire Distributor so I can see how Retail shops run.... Good way to help learn. And thanks for the Video info👍👍👍
I have a small quiet fan that blows lots of air at my work stations. Keeps the sweating down. Nice vid.
Wheel and Tire balancing, right an wrong way (cuts to tire magicly balanced after complaining about not wanting to put 7 oz of weights on after doing all the other checks). You guys have become the last shop that balanced the tire, and the next shop is going to tell us how you didn't do it right.
Oh we had a very honest conversation with our customer about the issues. Once we were done the vibration was gone but it's still considerably more weight than we would like to use. Unfortunately there's only so much you can do even with the best training and tools.
Sounds to me like a bad tire
@@Kc8qdq you are correct. the tire was bad and needed replaced. The customer didn't want to do that. That tire was balanced with 1/2 the weight of what it came in with and the vibration was remedied. As a shop we can only recommend what the vehicle needs.... we cant make the customer do what is right to remedy the issue. thanks for watching the Video. Have a great day.
For those interested in this subject, and because we got so many questions in regards to it we made a new MUCH more in depth version of this process. Start to finish all the tips and tricks.
czcams.com/video/3JfK7npO2TQ/video.html
@@LucoreAuto I was wondering if you would because it looked as if the machine’s hub needed changing half way through
The big name tire outlets do this routinely. Periodically, the adhesive weights come off during driving when you it a pothole or when ice/snow packs into the wheel during winter. I just had a small local shop take care of the steering wheel shake. He said he balanced the wheel then balanced the wheel and tire. I don't know how that's done, but my G6 rides perfectly now. I no longer purchase wheels and tires at the big name tire outlets.
Good video and good work fellows...One easy check that's worth mentioning, is to spin the tire and check for tread zig zag when it spins, bad tire or bead can sometimes be seen when it's spinning. Good work on checking rim run out too.
Awesome machine guys
Informative video. Do you have one about a lug centric balancing version?
is there a difference between forced match balancing and road force balancing?
been 15+ years since i last mounted and balanced tires, so times/technology have changed.
we had a basic Coates and Hunter mounter/balancer system.
I’m glad I stopped and watch even if I’m fully capable of getting them modified projects done. It’s nice to see the things done because they are the most common things on this style of trucks ! Would been nice to have a good lighting on the bump steer so people understood what they look like far as clearances ? I’m going to share this with my club discussion group. Thanks
If you are into the bumpsteer/ chassis setup side of things... boy do we have a LOT of things here for you! 😀
Plain and simple. Much obliged friend. Other videos are just too damn confusing
Very welcome, if you are interested there's a much more in depth follow up video to this one as well.
I would have dismounted the tire and lubricated it well then mounted it again and checked. I have seen high roadforce on a set of new tires and wheels a coworker had just mounted. Force-matching isn’t always accurate. Also a brake caliper can be so close to the wheel it can pull off stick weights, maybe hammer-on weights would have been a better choice if that is how they were weighted from the factory. I know on the lexus LX570 I would have to use a large cone on the outside and nothing on the inside and it was the best way to have consistent readings detected by the balancer.
My experience working with tires is that you have to do the best you can, balancing a tire can go flawlessly or its a weight hungry little shit. Just gotta try your best to get it balanced with little weight as possible. (Helps putting the right weights on too)
Right, but if it's calling for 12 or 14 oz of weight on one wheel, more than likely somebody's not doing something right. You could certainly have just a really bad wheel or tire, yes. But a good actually experienced technician should know how to better position and match mount the tire correctly on the rim, for at least the best chance of balancing out the flawed areas between the tire and the rim. I know that it doesn't always work, but it still gives you the better chance.. instead of just simply chasing weights all over the wheel because the machine keeps calling for it..
Most of the techs that I've come across these days just don't get it. Instead of just slapping the tire on the rim and go, there's a better way to line it up so you're not stacking the bad spot of the tire right up against the bad spot of the rim. And the ohh big surprise, it's massively unbalanced and the computer calls for 12 oz of weight stacked on the other side to try and balance.. and every time you stick another quarter ounce on there and spin it it wants you to stick another weight back on the other side and you'll just keep chasing it back and forth..
I just spoke to a well known tire shop in RI and told me it didn't matter to use all 1/4 oz weights to balance one of my tires that were out 4.25oz. The manager actually said that all 1/4oz or 4, 1 oz didn't make a difference. So why do I still have vibration on that tire? The other guy said I probably need an alignment, I told him I got 70,000 miles on my last set of tires that wore perfectly, why would you touch the alignment? I'm so tired of dealing with people that don't know crap about what there supposed to be professional at.
That's a ghetto shop. It's impossible to mount that many 1/4 weights and still maintain the target area. Weights come in different varieties for a reason. That tire shop are just being cheap fucks and refusing to stock all weight sizes for all scenarios.
I would have really liked to know how much and many weights you put on the wheel and where?
Same here. They didn´t show that. Why? It was 1 and 5,5. Last was 1 and 7. And it was ment to be so wonderful machine to find smaler weights.
Tire off and check is rim streight or not. I would to know, was tire or rim very bad.
Since the rim is not ideal for the data set arms, would the 180 procedure be helpful here?
So what he is saying problem is now in the back of the truck?.
I purchased a new tire balance machine and I balanced a new tire and aluminum wheel and set it in the rack and when the truck came for installation I put it back on the balance machine to show the owner it was balanced, to my surprise it was asking for 3.75 more weight for to be balanced ? is that normal ? should it not have still been balanced, thanks
I've dealt with this issue myself. Toyota wheels of wheels are lug centric and you have to use the lug flange plate Only and do not use the collette. This is why when you took that flange plate off and used only the call it you but you got a totally different reading
Thanks for sharing, do you know how to do this without one of those fancy machines?
Great video man! What dif cover are you rocking? I’d put it on my 8.5
what if put sticky wieghts on . repine snd its still out by 2 or 3 ounces on outside of rim . do you put the 3 ounces on top of wieghts jusst put on.Or do you put along side weights?
I wish Walmart corporation would hire you to go to each Walmart a do a 3 day training course! I just got my tire balanced and I’m on the hwy and I still feel vibration in my steering wheel! And I have 400 mile drive, so that’s pretty much a tire I’m going to have to replace now
So.... what did it take to get a better balance? And what did the final weight setup look like? What's the right way?
Essentially the tire has to be matched to the wheel, which requires understanding the weights/imbalance of both the wheel AND of the tire. We actually just released a MUCH more in depth version of this video if you want to see the whole process from start to finish!
czcams.com/video/3JfK7npO2TQ/video.html
how much does a tire rotation and balance cost? It has to be worth your time to take your time making sure it's right.
I got 4 new tires and 3 of them are balanced outside with adhesive weight but one tire is balanced inside with one clip weight. Is that considered normal?
Which wheel balancer were you using?
I'm grateful there are videos such as this .
I'm curious about a few things sir. Firstly, how did technicians formerly balance tires before such tech. Was available?
Secondly, are there other standards (in regards to modern tech) by which technicians test for balancing issues? (i.e. more than one type of machine and/or device available.)
Im asking because I am supposed to begin my first day of training TOMORROW at a small, two bay Firestone service center and I have literally NO experience. (which I was completely honestly about before getting hired. But they seem confident in my ability to learn and perform efficiently.)
I've been scouring CZcams for a few hrs now trying to acquire as much foreknowledge as possible about the matter and would like to familiarize myself with the processes as much as possible. (Both old, new and various ways procedurally.)
My only experience with vehicles is a six month job at an Oil Xpress . Doing filters, fluids and differentials checking.
I did decently at that.
Not sure on the tires thing though. I am admittedly taking the job more out of necessity than passion for the trade to be honest, but I DO like to be efficient at what I do.
Ty for these informative videos sir.
Wish you guys are in Florida. Man, do I have a wheel balancing saga to share about my experience with PepBoys. Bought new Coopers for my truck, and the tech loaded one of wheels up up with 13 oz of weight. Combination of .25, .50, 1.0, 2.5, and 3 oz weights. Brought the truck back over a dozen time because it never felt balanced on the highway. Went through 2 sets of tires because of out-of-roundness. They finally forced the 3rd and final set on me with all four wheels having 7oz - 9oz on them. I'm never ever buying tires from PepBoys again.
I custom paint a lot of wheels at my body shop and I have to take them to United tire to have them dismounted and remounted because they’re the only ones around me that have the right tire changer and balancer
Auto tech here-we have a cheaper chinese balancer and we are forever chasing weights with this thing. Can the weights spread out like they were on this tire contribute to that?
This is exactly what i'm dealing with right now with my front wheels. I have no weights on my left wheel and 26 (twenty-six) 1/4oz weights on my right wheel (done on a road force machine at Discount Tire - brand new Lexany tires)
Steering wheel shimmy at 45mph and up. These wheels had perfect balance before new tires.
Would it be OK if i marked the center of where they placed the 1/4oz weights and replace them with equivalent weight but 1/2oz weights so they're closer to the center?
Thanks for the video, this is great info!!!
Reminds me of a rim lock tire on a non rim lock rim. That j was all over the place
I have a question when you do rotation and balance the balance apply for the 4 tires?
Yes absolutely! Due to tire wear you always want to rebalance every tire, especially if an alignment is off. Tires can be scrubbing or wearing improperly and this gives you a chance to see/feel it
Many years ago when I work in the tyre store if we found the wheels were too far out-of-balance we would break the bead and we would spin the tyre 180° most of the time that brought the balance down to a less weight but you should not put weights on top of weights but at the same time of saying that a lot of people do not want to see the wheel weight like a mag wheel weight on their wheel and wheel manufacturers do not allow for a wheel weight to go on the front so it's sort of a curse every car is different
So how did you fix the tire at the end?
I just had new tires mounted and balanced today, I noticed a horrible shake at 60mph. Pulled over and checked them, front passenger tire had 8oz on it.. seems like I should take it back to the shop.
Can you do a video on lugcentric vs hubcentric
Ok at 7:55 there was a cut and you cut off the whole wheel and tire balancing! How did you do it? How much weight did it need? Was it placed in the same spots as before? Did you have to break down the tire and wheel? If so, how much did you have to move the tire from where it was before.
I would have been tempted when I saw it was four ounces off, to just add 4 ounces or remove. It seems a shame to let almost a pound of the old weights go to waste. The did not drop off and like at the side of the road like so many do.
Why yall cut out putting on the weights 😂
So what was the solution? The machine told you the last guy basically put on the right weight. It told you tire can't be rotated on the wheel. Your machine also said add 7oz + 1oz, and he had 8.25 oz on. Reason likely bad/cheap tire/wheel combo or bent rim, but it told you the same thing as the last guy that you bad mouthed.
Then all of a sudden you cut to "ooop, we fixed it", and got all wishy washy. What did you do?
Thank you for paying attention. I was wondering the same thing, plus they cut off some of the video where they struggled mounting the wheel with the adapter and cone on the machine. Every rim is different, it could be slightly bent and take a bunch of weights. All I know is that I am not an expert. I have a cheap Chinese tire balance machine at home and those Toyota trucks rims are a struggle to balance. I have to use a similar adapter, it takes time for balancing four tires (like a playing with a slot machine several times) and they take a lot of weights. I calibrate the machine every often. No, I don’t have the same situation balancing Chevrolet truck or a Toyota car or small SUV tires.
Is there instances where tires don’t get any weight? I got a new tire change and only the back tires have weights, not the front ones
Does it happen? Yes it can. If both the tire and wheel are force matched together it CAN happen. Typically even with a road force balance and force matching though at least SOME weight will need to be used even if it's not much.
If you aren't feeling any kind of vibration at speed from the front end, chances are you just got very lucky.
I started doing lof, lube oil n filter n tires in 1978 for my first job, now 2021 very very few know how to balance a tire correctly....
Sooooo how many weights did he end up putting on, because from what his comments were, it seemed that the original weight count was very close to what it needed. 🧐🧐
WE BALANCE WHEELS AND THEY GO OUT A 0 0 NOT 0.25 AND 0.50
GREAT JOB GUYS
L M A O
"Great job guys"????
WTF did they DO???
Was that tire on backwards???
My wife just bought a car which it would appear has not had the wheels cleaned in the 7 years since it left the factory. We are purchasing new tires, and I have managed to get most of the brake dust off, but I was concerned that the wheel weights would not even stick. I'm just wondering if this is something one _should_ be concerned about.
Whoa! Well congratulations on the new car purchase first off! Secondly yes, yes that IS concerning. Assuming the shop will be using stick on weights not hammer weights the inside barrel needs to be clean of debris and dust. Most shops will throw some brake clean at the surface to get it cleaned up but if it's bad enough that a blast of brake clean won't get it... you better get in there and do some cleaning first!
@@LucoreAuto Thanks. Yes, I have already pulled each wheel off and cleaned the inside of the wheels of all but a few specks.
@@lylecrawford2794 Good for you, your shop will appreciate that! Clean is good, but don't use any kind of sealer or wax type product on the inside it may effect the bonding. But sounds like you're on the right track ;)
Hi..i do this kind of job at my workplace..im still new..do we need to do balancing of the tyre that want to put in front only? Or need to do all 4 tyres? ...my supervisor just told me to do the tyre that want to put front only..Please answer me
Ohhh no every tire should be balanced as close to 0 as possible. Now you CAN run into situations like in heavy trucks for instance that for speed of work people don't go through the hassle. But any tire thats unbalanced will ride rougher and wear faster.
@LucoreAuto @LucoreAuto thx for clarification. 1 more question.. My sv said that the value of the rear tyre that is under 20 is ok since it's doesn't affect much to the tyre wear. Is that true?
One more question I have 33x12.50r20 tires that I’m putting on 20x9 rims. The tire place wants to charge me 600 dollars for 5 tires that I’m putting on a Jeep wrangler. That’s to put the tires on the rims, the tpsm “which I am providing “, and the balancing. Is that too much for that service
Yea that's WAY too much, i'd say 250 max.
Where are you guys located
At 4:50 it shows 6.75oz required on the outboard and then on the respin it only shows 5.25oz - Was that the problem with the adapter? At the very end, is the tire is still .25oz and .50oz out of balance? Is that common for a top-of-the-line balancer to show .75oz variation in accuracy? Does it report different numbers every time you spin the tire? Thanks for the video.
No that is not common variation especially for hunter road force force match most likely they did not have the right adaptors or the adaptors were worn Rim tire combo looks like Toyota 4Runner they are also problematic to balance in the first place
Hiw about a weld draglite wheel? I cant find anyone to balance these wheels at all! I tell them they need the correct hub centric attachment and they look at me like im stupid🤷
I mean... it's just a wheel, all they need to have is the right hub centric adapter... and stick on weights? What are they so scared of? OR are they just too scared to work on/possibly damage an expensive wheel?
@@LucoreAuto exactly! I've never had this much of a hassle to get some wheels balanced! Oh and the wheels in question are on my Malibu in the profile pic
Excuse me, "lug centric"
It could be a bent wheel making it hard to get it right. Usually a potential flag is if weights are placed opposite of each other.
I bought a new set of BFG Ko2’s with steel rims and the shop can’t get it right, they even replaced 2 tires and still the steering wheel shakes between 50 and 60 mph, one of the tires has 9.5 oz! I do realized they stacked the weights the way you said it shouldn’t be done, i don’t know what to do anymore, I’ll probably take the truck to another shop for balancing, and spend more money that I shouldn’t have
That can actually get really tricky when especially working ln larger tires or offroad tires. Also some of that can come down to steering and suspension as well, look up the "Death wobble" something MANY lifted Jeeps/Trucks have to overcome!
Lucore Auto and LucoreRacing thanks for the response, I took it to a store specializing in tires and the problem was one of the rims
@@RagingBad very welcome we always try to respond back to every comment we get! Wheel end up being out of round? That's usually pretty obvious but sometimes can be a bit sneaky.
Find some one that has an Amermac tire truer and a hunter force match HD and providing that they know what they are doing should make short work of it
@@RagingBad , if one of the rims was out of round, a competent shop would've known to look for that, especially if their balancing machine was calling for a lot of weight (that's a red flag).
In other words, that first shop was incompetent. I would want my money back. I hope you paid by credit card, so you can dispute the charge?
Where are you guys located?
Just outside Columbus Ohio
You should have shown the proper position of the weights you put on the wheel
Wtf happened? Ya skip the most important part of fixing the balance. 🤣
But you never showed us how to correctly install the tire weights. And if those readings on the screen there at the end of the video was for that tire then the problem is not fixed cause you are still 3 quarters off..
Great job
Do brand new wheels and tires need to be balanced
ABSOLUTELY!
I do this almost every day, if theres more than 3 ounces needed on a wheel then remount it on the machine somethings wrong maybe missed a weight unless its a massive mud tire or something thats ridiculous. I dont know how this can be done wrong I have never had a problem and I test drive every time after a mounting job. Good point about the warped wheels should be put on the back.
1:13 When you realize you get minimum wage to bust your ass so you put on the whole box
Each time after 0 - 0 balancing complete I ask mechanic to turn wheel 90 deg anywise and check again: always some 10 - 15 g disbalance appears. When I ask to explain why so - every time hear new “scientific “ explanation.
So , in my experience , ive used .25 oz because we had no more ( poor planning and ordering ). I have scratched my head with recalibrating the machine as well...( our machine is not anchored ) !! Why , idk ?? Sometimes you just have to put it on the right rear..Lol
Ok first off has anybody ever seen the red and white paint dots on a tires sidewall? They are there for a reason and all have a different meaning but basically tells to the best place to mount the tire in correlation with the valve stem. This helps with putting the least amount of weight possible on the tire. Even still its not always an exact science. Sometimes you just have to figure out what works best and makes the customer happy because that's what it all boils down to in the end. Also to all the people who have a problem with no weights on a rim, would you rather them add a weight to make you happy but the tire not be right? Because there are instances, quite often actually, where they don't need any weight. But I have added a quarter ounce to a wheen before just because they weren't satisfied with a perfectly balanced tire and wanted to see a weight on it and it made them happy. Your not really going to feel the diffrence in a qt ounce anyway on heavier tire and wheel combos just on the smaller 13 and 14 inch rims.
So you ended up with same weights after correcting the mistakes.
On my way fam
Also one thing you forget to mention is that, when a shop balances a tire the tire might've left that shop Balanced 0-0 but if that customer put 12k miles on that tire obviously it's not gonna check out 0-0 again at another tire shop. FYi
Toyota wheels are notorious for being difficult to balance due to the center hub design.
They are also not very fun to balance when slightly bent, and only using .25 ounce weights! ;)
Seems like if that tire is so unusually out of balance even after recentering it, you should sparate the tire and inspect it all.
That's funny.... stacking up so many weights....lol! I would think common sense would tell anyone use the fewest weights to limit the area where they are placed....
My shop fucked around and put weights on only two wheels wtf And my steering wheel still on the front left a little bit n it gives more violent at 70 miles an hour I need suggestions ASAP before in the morning
Ummmm that's not good! Unless they were able to perfectly force match the other two wheels and tires together which is VERY rare, you should have at least some weight on each. Unfortunately the only way to fix that is to get the whole set rebalanced, when we're talking quarter ounces at a time there's nothing you can do to fix it yourself.
@@LucoreAuto I’m taking it back today to a more expensive shop
@@IkillPigz fortunately wheel/tire balancing shouldn't be THAT expensive but it DOES require the person doing the work to understand the process and their equipment. Hopefully the other shop got you sorted out!
I took it back and they balanced all my wheels . Now they all have weights added to them. It still shakes a little tad bit . ‘My psi it all accurate on the dot too. Wheels are all aligned and balanced . Still shakes , they said I have almost a bald tire on the back . You think that’s what causing it to shake a tad bit. It increase as I accelerate. And As I slow down it stops .
@@IkillPigz hmmmm if you've got one tire that's close to bald it could definitely cause some issues. Typically speaking tire vibration is a constant thing that will speed up and slow down with speed but shouldn't change with acceleration or breaking. Could have something else going on there..
U didt show me how u got it down from 7.00 to .50
This video seems like it went exactly opposite of what the headline would suggest
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Thanks :)
Be sure to check out our newest video on this subject, gets a LOT more in depth!
czcams.com/video/3JfK7npO2TQ/video.html
So did you guys put 7 oz on it ?!! LOL !!!
I don't see the OK on the screen?? That is an awful expensive machine not to get it perfect. Yes, I also have the Hunter Road Force and I found sometime a breakdown and reseat of the bead can help.
With that chassis ventilation it wouldn’t even be allowed on the road here in Europe. Nice car though.
I love how there's always some shady mechanic out there doing shady work and calling it good.
The tire is getting ready to separate and blow out
You failed to show us the 'after' weights
We have a few different videos from after this one that show the process a lot better. This was kind of thrown together from extra footage we had YEARS ago when we sucked a lot more at CZcams ;)
What did I just see? Talking about other people out of the side of his neck only to find out,,, he is one of those people!
Never spun the tire on the wheel so they will never know. What was the runout of the tire? They were checking the wheel not the tire.
I ordered wheels and tires from Mr Wheel Deal. They sent me one wheel with 19oz of weight another with 11oz of weights and 2 wheels with 3oz of weights. I cant believe they would let there techs send shit out like that. So disappointed with that company and will never buy from them again.
Holy cow! 19oz!? What in the world?
aftermarket wheels don't have the best quality control so you almost always will end up using way more weight than with a stock wheel
Good luck.. They won’t call you back!
The people before you guys put way to many weights and stacked by 3 💀😂come on now
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Anything more then 2.5 ozs
The tire is defective it was built wrong from the tire factory. I know I worked a tire buffer at a factory. Throw the tire out.
No. It could also mean that the tech who balanced the tire doesn't know what they're doing.
@@AbcAbc-sp1od You actually can BOTH be correct. Typically speaking anything over 2.5 ozs you get into some not so friendly territory on balance. Unfortunately it can be up to a bad/cheap tire, old tire, badly stored tire, OR can come down to the tech who did the mounting and balancing in the first place didn't know what they were doing.
Aamco transmission's technician present I see this kind of trash everyday an people come in a try to tell me who did an why an how I should do the repair
He will tell the customer how the previous installer ruined the tire…
Come on guys
And this video title is????? Wow. You actually put this out as it is… weird.
I'd balance tire until it says OK and ok or 0oz and 0oz. Not leaving with .25oz or .50oz off and go back to the car.
You are correct. It has to say ok in smart wieght mode or it will shake . If that not in smart weight mode . .25 is min. This video is not the right way .
@beachwoodtire so many shops say 0 Oz is the best, but if we are busy 0.25 is ok except 0.5 Oz. For me no matter how long it takes wheel must be ok or 0oz. It is usually user's error why they cannot get 0 Oz or ok within 2 spins.
I agree with you , I believe it has to say ok for smart balance algorithm to work.
The one thing I hate about smart weight. That it will not show zero or .25 . On coats machine or non smartwieght . So if customer or old tech with no clue thinks its not balance . If they go somewhere else . Or dumb shop that doesn't use hunter. Will say it's off
@beachwoodtire and they basically don't understand how the balancer works(when I was a beginner, I researched how the balancer work and why it is telling me to put weight there) And there is something called counter weight or chasing weight. They don't know how to correct that. It could be bad tire or rim, but mechanics usually don't know how to correct that.
@beachwoodtire if it is a user error's to putting multiple weights on a rim in different spots, it means a technician didn't put the weight on a precise spot. When the weight should be on the dead center spot, the technician put weight too much to the right or left of that "lazer beam" (older machines don't have this feature, so it is easier to make these mistakes). This stuff is pretty advanced skills to learn. But a tire shop must teach these skills how to correct those. What all they need is a concept.
Haha I don't get the watch comment at all.
Holy Shit lol
That wheel is bent. Calls for wayyyyyy too much weight
Unfortunately the customer was not interested in buying an extremely over priced factory replacement wheel so we had to work with what we've got. In an ideal world Mr Customer would have brought us a new wheel, however we were able to get the wheel and tire matched up so that there is very little noticeable vibration.
Pretty obvious to me the goodyear tire was junk!
Gangsta turn the road force off