GoPro Inside a Car Tire (With Balance Beads)
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- I mount a GoPro inside my car tire together with balance beads to see how the balance beads work while driving.
Balance beads are supposed to automatically balance your tire out, or you can use them in already balanced tires.
It's really interesting to see how the balance beads work from an inside the tire perspective.
This was a hugely requested video on my previous putting a GoPro inside of a tire video So thank you too all that made that request.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:10 Badly Dry Rotted Tires
00:39 The Balance Beads
01:09 Mounting GoPro
01:36 Putting balance Beads In Tire
03:00 Wheel On Balancer
04:29 Reversing
04:50 Driving Low Speed
05:27 Driving Med Speed
06:12 Driving High Speed
07:29 Removing GoPro
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It is amazing that the tire withstands so many deformations during its lifetime without getting tired.
Tires can get tired over time, you can also retire a tire to be like new
@@john-martinI hope I’m not too tired to enjoy being retired.
Heh
It’s rubber…
That tired old joke...
I worked at a tire shop for a couple years, I remember one time I popped open a big truck tire and the entire thing was FULL of balance beads. The customer was complaining about the truck pulling to the right and a severe vibration at high speeds. It probably had three gallons of balance beads. That was an interesting conversation with him
Lol... He probably got a flat and instead of fixing it just filled it with beads. Your comment made me crack up
This kind of reminds me of that prank CZcamsr who put beans in his PC and then called a PC repair guy.
@@SecretSauceyjuiceReminds me of that prank extraterrestrial demi-god who filled an entire planet with retards.
He probably thought they were a consumable...
A case where more is not better
50 mph in the city at night with his sunglasses on, looking at his phone driving 😂.
Don't try this at home!
With tyres ready to blow out.
@@graememckay9972 "they're in great shape!"
Karen alert!
US consept: "Freedom driving" - feel free to be hit by a "Freedom driver" anytime soon. Otherwise; great video, that shows only things that a gynologist might see!
The engineers who figure out tire construction materials & methods are brilliant!! Watching what a tire goes through has given me a whole new level of respect.😄
I agree 💯
Dont forget, tiretechnology is even older than a car
I've always wanted to know if balancing beads work and how they work! Thank you!!
I'm still not 100% sure exactly how they work, but the GoPro weighed 7 oz, I put 8 oz of balance beats in the tire, and it was 1.5 to 2 oz off balance, So that's telling me that they're doing something just not sure exactly how.
Time to put them into your lawnmower oil?
Can you zero it with more beads? :)
I wonder which balance beads are the best?
@@Eduardo_Espinozagood question, the GoPro weighs 7oz and I put 8 oz of beads in there.
Complaining about other drivers while hooning through city areas on destroyed tire(s) with cell phone in hand. Excellent.
Yeah that made me laugh
This guy is absolutely braindead; he drives like he's the main character. Good to know the people speeding down streets honking at anyone "cutting them off" might be filming a fucking youtube video.
Yep, life in the real world.
Go cry about it
He's doing science, get off his back.
Briefly studied this in engineering school. For balance beads to work the tire has to spin out of concentric. Won’t give you consistent results on spin balancer because the wheel is held firm. 2oz out of balance nothing to brag about.
Some have good luck with balance beads. For others when the wheel hits a bump it spins out of concentric, moving the beads, which then have to move back into place. A bump from the road followed by a bump from imbalance. And then there is the issue of having to rebalance every time the wheel starts rolling. Some beads are sticky or use static electricity to stay in contact with the tire.
That I know, OTR trucks simply do not balance any but possibly the steering tires. And use weights.
Good old fashioned balancing works. There is a reason your new car doesn’t come from the factory with balance beads.
I have to wonder if they act as an abrasive on the inside of the tire. Probably not enough to affect the service life.
They came in my Yamaha ATV tires from Factory somebody in engineering probably recommend them
Sometimes you need an engineer to call out the BS. Thank you sir!
But then you sometimes need to rebalance as the tire wears.
@@VeritasEtAequitas I don't find that to be as true as it was 40 years ago. Balance motorcycles tires myself when mounting. Have checked balance before removing old tire and found it to still be pretty good. On cars my deal with Discount Tire provides free rotation. Don't believe they balance when rotating.
I'm more impressed with the GoPro staying attached. Some serious adhesive.
but it didn't though...
For as long as it did, great adhesive.
This guy's a clown, ALWAYS mount a 2nd GoPro to balance your tires. These "balance beads" are just going to sandblast your GoPros, requiring them to be replaced much sooner.
3M VHB Is no joke. Makes you rethink adhesive tape
I was impressed on how long the battery lasted. I can only get a battery to last an hour in my hero11
I’ve eaten a couple spoonfuls of these before my recent gymnastics competitions with AMAZING results! I’m off to nationals next month and hope to get a sponsor.
I used a vibrator after each dose. I follow instructions.
i ate a whole bag and i became a gyroscope so precise i was able to experience earth's rotation
@@UJustGotGamed I know you’re lying because Earth is flat. Who paid you to promote this sphere nonsense?
So you're a swinger? LOL
I think that's the balance *beam* you were supposed to "internalize"
They work because the tire is rotating around its *center of mass*. If the tire has a heavy spot, the center of mass is going to be offset towards it, Meaning even though the heavy spot itself wants to be flung outward from a static reference frame, from the rotating reference frame of the tire, the heavy spot is actually staying closer to the center and the light spot is being flung outwards the farthest. The beads, which are free to move and not a connected to the tire at all only move via centripetal force of the tire trying to pull them back to the center, and they'll collect in the high spot which is the light spot.
Sticky Sticky this and give the guy some more likes plz.!
Your explanation makes sense when you think about it. Thanks.
@@RealityCheckThat no problem! Glad that helps. I just searched and found a video titled "DynaBeads demo video" that I definitely recommend for anyone trying to visualize it. The guy used an eccentricity weighted water bottle with flexible extension in a drill to demonstrate the beads and i think it really helps to get a more intuitive feel for the phenomena.
You can also see this effect if you spin an ax in the air. It looks like the handle is orbiting the ax head
Nope.
Now, I know your are going to (firstly) trust the vendor over some stranger on the Internet, but hear me out.
An unbalanced wheel on a spring suspension will drag the axle in the direction of the extra mass.
That means that the heavy side is further from the centre of rotation, not closer.
The way these beads work is that any on the heavy side get hit harder than those on the light side. Result, the ones on the heavy side get redistributed more than those on the light side.
looking at a video, driving in urban traffic, at night, IN SUNGLASSES. SUPER GENIUS
+with tyres that about to desintegrate
@@danibot3000a
@@danibot3000sad sadc
It's actually illegal to be driving on tires that bad. Yeah that was all pretty cringe
one hand on the phone, the other on the horn
Amazing how well they work. In India we are using rice instead. Works the same way, but you have to replace the rice at least once a year. But we have enough of it, and it isn't very expensive.
Probably 70 percent of heavy truck tires are balanced with beads. I worked 11 years in a shop with "tire" in it's name. If you would have poured a second bag of beads in your tire, it would have spun up at zero on the balancer. I have spun tires on the balancer, corrected with weights, and driven the truck. I then went back to the shop, added slightly more beads by weight than I used to balance the tire, stripped off the weights, and drove again. EVERY TIME I did this, (like 10 or 12 times), the truck was smoother with the beads. Mind you, the steering wheel ( I always did this to left front) Kind of "chugged" until the tire had been at speed for 10 or 15 seconds or so. Then it was as smooth as road force imbalance could let it be. After my research, we built the cost of beads into the price of all front tires on 19.5 inch rims and larger. All of our medium and heavy duty customers kept coming back, saying "xxx"s tires are 20 bucks cheaper, but yours run better" I understand why it is counterintuitive, but I think the beads bounce off the heavy spots because they are moving faster away from the axle centerline than the light spots.This results in the beads "finding" the right position for the tire AT THAT MOMENT. Just my opinion, hope it helps.
That is pretty much my understanding, much like water would spread out if you spin a glass smoothly. So i picture it like the vibrations on the wheel shake the beads until it reaches equilibrium and the vibration stops, effectively balancing the wheel
Really makes me appreciate how tires warm up so much as you drive seeing them deform so quickly in motion.
That's why a tire mustn't be under pressured, otherwise deformation is too big, tire becomes too hot, then break or explode !
Ive been using ceramic balance beads in all my truck, car and motorcycle tires for years. They work awesome. You must put the correct amount in the tire depending on tire size and tread width or you can have an out of balance situation from too many beads. You get a random harmonic imbalance that comes and goes when you have too many beads installed.
I swear by ceramic beads. Tires last longer and they perfectly rebalance the tire every time yhe tire gets to 15mph. Ceramic beads are reuseable too. Causes no damage to tire, wheel or tps sensors.
Awesome. The Counter Act balancing beads he shows here are not plastic but rather smooth glass beads. I use them in my Semi Truck tires. There's a chart that shows the proper Ounce bag to use for your size tire. Also install the extended valve core that comes with them
I run beads in all my truck tires, I've never had a smoother ride out of tires over 35 inchs. I've heard horror stories about Milestar Patagonia's being incredibly hard to balance but I've been through two sets of 38's on my Jeep and the beads work perfectly.
I've been using these for about a year now. I was initially under the impression they found the inbalance area and stuck to it. Your video cleared that up. They don't stick, instead it's a continuous move to find the inbalance. Awesome video. Be careful and follow the directions. Amount matters for tire size. 😊
Main purpose of balance beads is they decrease your bank account balance when you buy them
Yeah, no. The beads don't "flow" to the place where the wheel is out of balance, like water to a low spot. Once you get up to 20-30 mph, the beads are spread all throughout the tire … completely random…and are held in place by centrifugal force. Then they stay there until you slow down enough. Then they redistribute completely randomly again the next time you take off. That's why he measured 2 different settings on his tire machine at the beginning of this video.
@@user-mp9rd4hg8b Like 3 marbles on the end of strings attached to a stick. Rotate the stick. Shorten one string to make off balance and see how the other string marbles react to balance the contraption if the rim will hold them. OR a frisbee on an electric drill with the BB's. Put a small weight on the frisbee ( like a penny/nickel ) to throw it out of balance and watch the marbles adjust inside the rim. Ride-on or PnuemaSeal thixotropic gels do that too. I use Rid-on in my bike tires and smooth running at all speeds.
They probably stick if tire is not dry ( care about moist and grease )
4 -6 oz should cover most situations
Seeing the funnel inside the tire as the air drained from the tire was a real Warped Perception moment. Awesome
I knew they worked, I know a lot of big mud tire guys that use them because it’s almost impossible to balance those tires. But it’s so cool to see them in action. 10/10 best use of a GoPro this year.
Antifreeze works too
@@juliogonzo2718 liquid in a tire does the opposite it makes it unbalanced
@@joshmanis9860 how would it work opposite?
I've been running balancing beads for 9 years and over 20,000 miles in my Harley dresser motorcycle, the balance is perfect. The tires still have a few thousand miles to go on them, I contribute the high milage to continuous perfect balance. When I change the tires, I'll see the effect the beads have on the interior.
You got 20k out of a set of tires on your dresser?
Both Dressers, 2013 Road King CVO and a 2015 St Glide with a 120 St motor. Over 20,000 miles on both. No dry rot, original tires on both. @@vinniem4404
It took you 9 years to go 20,000 miles?
I have 4 Harleys, actually one has 4 legs. I have 2 in Florida and one in NY. Two dressers and one Softail. I strictly ride sole and mostly highway driving.@@Ma-xi6il
A true Chicagoan! Drives a rustbucket onto the streets with tyres that any cop would have a fit at, slams the horn as if his lizard brain was born with the reflex when some douche cuts him off and wears sunglasses at night.
Loved this video, didn't think the balance beads would work that well!
Never stop
Illinois has state inspection 🧐..this is more a Detroit thing to do.. we just don't have a real city to drive in
Hahaha ..
Actually he didn't cut me off, he made a u-turn from the oncoming traffic, but again like you said a Chicagoan thing I'm sure
@@throttleblip1 No it doesn't.
They used to inspect pick ups but that ended in the 80's.
Just watched the interesting & informative vid'...was checking the comments to find a logical, scientific basis to explain the beads' effectiveness...
Read your comment and couldn't help but laugh my ass off (out loud)...
Thanks, from an expat' dude sitting/supping out front of a 7-11 in a small fishing port on the northeast coast of Taiwan...
F**king funny as f*ck!!!
I used to drive 250 miles a night on gravel roads, on wet nights gravel would get stuck on the inside my rims and when I would hit pavement the wheels were unbalanced. I started using balance beads and they worked great for the next 2 years I did that job.
i had that same problem on my old hilux. solved by buying better wheels. that factory wheel looked like it was designed to accumulate sand, mud and debris. incredibly bad.
I became a firm believer in them the first time I used them in my RV tires. I have split rings on one of my vintage RV's and I couldn't keep the weights from flipping off. Because they are split rings, they have tubes. Dyna beads makes a tube friendly bead that you send through the valve stem. The first time I used them I was stunned at this voodoo magic! Great Video BTW!
Yes they work, i put them in my land cruiser MT tyres after i could not get them balanced with weights, the work well.
I had a flat after about 25.000 km and there was no damage in the tyre and beads were clean, no dust or other debris.
I'm impressed those janky ass tires survived that jankier ass street! I tried beads for the first time recently in some bigger offroad tires and now I'm a believer.
I was with you, scratching my head until reading the comments triggered an understanding. The short version is... the wheel accelerates TOWARD the heavy side, the beads want to get left behind and, being free to move, collect on the light side. Intuition is not always our friend when it comes to physics. Great great video!
They were put in brand-new Toyo Commercial 265/70R22.5 Tires by my Dealer. In the past, I always had them balanced on a balancing machine, but dealer assured me that beads were money well-spent. Drove I-40 from Flagstaff AZ to OK City, OK. Went to a Truck Tire Shop and had them removed from front tires. Absolutely the opposite effect I was looking for. The 22.5 tires would run smooth on smooth road, but introduce some bumps/chuckholes:CHAOS! Times bounced wildly for several miles. Super Annoying! After 1100 miles, I paid good money to get that debris OUT of my tires!
yeah I could see how that would happen, good info@@daveh5635
Ok, when the vehicle is stationary there's a flat spot at the bottom of the tyre where it touches the ground right and the beads gather there . When the vehicle accelerates the beads gather towards the back of the flat spot until there's enough centrifugal force to carry the beads all the way around inside the tyre where, according to the video, they seem to distribute fairly evenly around the inside. The only small advantage I can see is when they have gathered at rear of the flat spot before there's enough centrifugal force to distribute them around the inside. I'm pretty sure this is snake oil. 😂
@@Cyba_IT yep. pure snake oil. the wheel would need to be massively out of balance to shake it enough to get the beads to concentrate into one position and actually balance.
@@Cyba_IT you saw the video they work
Take the valve out of the valve stem, then pour the beads in. Or just toss the whole bag inside before mounting, and the thin plastic bag will quickly rupture once driving. Just sweep them up pronto if they spill on the ground, because they are quite slippery (it's literally like walking on ball bearings) Source: Hubby is a retread tech, and appreciates the inside view!
I had been using them on my motorcycles for over 20 years, and I had got thousands of miles more on every tire than regular balancing. Not only did my tires last forever, but the ride was smoother and no tire cupping, especially on my second gen Honda Goldwing that are famously knowing for front-end vibration. I had always waited to use them on the second set of tires and beyong on every new bike, but at this point, it is the first modification I do when I get a new bike. By the way, I always use a fresh set of beads on new tires. Thanks for the video.
How about some hard numbers for comparison?
@@michaelvachon1334You are joking? To suggest you got thousands of kilometres more from a tyre with these things in it is just ridiculous.
Agreed. I used them in my 1983 Suzuki GS650 and always had a super smooth ride.
I chatted with a rep from CounterAct, a brand of balancing beads, they don't work in everything. They work best in vehicles with stiff suspensions, such as trucks and motorcycles. They don't recommend them for passenger cars due to softer suspensions, but they see about a 75% success rate there. They also said that they won't work at super high speeds, like motorcycle racing, because the high centripetal force of the tire prevents them from properly redistributing in the tire.
The reason you get additional thousands of miles is that the tires never go out of balance the way they do with traditional balancing methods. As an example, I rotate and balance my car tires every 5,000 miles. I notice how they are super smooth for the first 1,000-ish miles and then they go progressively out of balance over the next 4,000-ish miles. While they are out of balance, they are wearing unevenly. Uneven wear begets more uneven wear. Finally, I end up replacing tires because of noise and crappy ride quality rather than getting to the wear bars.
@@paulsmith4701- I wasn't making any such claim. I'm quite skeptical of these products.
I will be lying if I say exact miles, but I remember on my 2006 M109r, I say the second set of tires lasted 4000 miles more and they were Metzelers my choice of tires (with a softer compound). I used them on my Ninja, VMax, Hayabusa, Goldwing, M109r, and my Honda Fury has now about 26000 miles and still had the factory tires.
Don't google "vibrating beads inside cavity"
lol
@@thecatdaddy1974 I already did that. First return was something like ...Asian teen happy ending
😂
lol please don’t I’m stubborn so 😂🤦🏼🤷🏼 I wish I didn’t
I have no freaking clue what I expected but wow thank you so much.
Welcome to a prime practical example of the quantum existence where the act of trying/attempting to observe the thing you want to observe directly affects the outcome of it.
Where did it impact the outcome? He said they worked. And we saw them at work. For your theory to be correct. They would have had to not work, but they did.
Not to mention the only real way to see them work fully would be to use multiple cameras. We only saw a small part of the inside of the tire, and therefore the beads. ✌️
@@amb3cog put them in your tires every bump will throw your balance off
@@Wtfsazerk WTF does that have to do with this conversation? We're taking about the observer effect. Not tire beads friend. Reading is fundamental. ✌️
You're supposed to keep the beads in the little bag they come in. You put that pack of beads, still in the bag into the tire when you are mounting the tire. The bag splits open releasing the beads once the tire starts rolling. Its right there in the directions that you didn't read. Also in the directions are info about the valve stems and cores. Traditional valve cores can trap a bead under it and cause it to leak. The cores that come with the beads prevent that, so go install those cores.
EXACTLY 100% correct!!.. I use these in my semi truck tires. You wouldn't believe how many 'tire techs' I've had to explain this to
Hated them
@@hughbreckenridge2327 I've used em in two different sets of 37 inch BFG Ko2 tires on my Jeep... got about 15,000 miles on those two sets of tires and they work perfectly and were far far far easier to "install" than lead weights and a balancing machine. I use the included valve core inserts and never had any beads get stuck in the cores. Tell me why you hated them.
Thanks , this is amazing ! I've used them in Motorsickle tires but was always skeptical to be honest , I don't know if this answers "do they work ?" I think the balance machine said "yes" and I sure loved seeing the tire tread & sidewall doing their thang , friggin' amazing...
I never thought the beads would work for the same reasons you did. I assumed they would gather at the heavy part and make it even worse. You learn something every day. Cool video.
True the centrifugal would just spread the beads the wieght on balance usually never changes ?
Lowest energy state - if the beads went to the heaviest spot, the wheel would deform to be egg shaped, so now the weight difference of the heavy spot would fight against the force of all the other rubber having to pull in closer to the center which it doesnt want to do since its spinning. I bet it wouldn't work with liquids, which would work how you intuitively think.
@@cannaroe1213A fine powder suspended in air, behaves like liquid. So now you alo know how the latex anti-leak milks work.
I did some research on these a few years back...
The heavy part becomes the "source" of the vibration when you're getting up to speed (35-45), and the beads naturally migrate away from that source.... therefore, they end up pretty much precisely on the opposite of where the vibration was, and it "cancels out"/balances the tire. That's how they work. Hopefully it makes sense for ya! I'm not too good with wording things!
@@billymanilli your message is clear to a techie!
This is also how your washing machine balances in the spin cycle. They use either a couple of balls, beads like this, or a ring of fluid (infinitesimally small beads). You normally don't notice them on top-loaders, but you can hear them roll around when you manually rotate a front-loader.
I gotta say, this is one of the coolest tire videos I have ever seen in my life.
👍 this video was fantastic. I've used balancing beads in my motorcycles for years. I balance the rims with normal weights (1x, rims don't usually go out of balance) and after that i just put 20g per wheel. If any stone gets trapped in the thread the beads work their "magic".
From what I've read, the beads start working above 60kmh.
His footage show them kicking in at well under 35mph, by the time he shows he hit 37(which is almost 60kmh) they had already been sticking in place.
@@XiaolinDraconis Exactly, but prior to Go-pros inside a tire it would be kinda difficult to understand the behaviour, I guess.
@@paulojrg put them in a pop bottle and spin it with a drill or search for that video it will help you wrap your head around what's going on.
@@shaner.5 That was the example from DynaBeads, not a real world though.
Never heard of those, looks pretty cool. amazing little things, did not expect them to do a lot.
They're great if you have large heavy tires that either take alot of weight to balance on the machine or you don't have a machine big enough for.
They're also nice cause they're faster, just drop the bag in and go (the clear bag that you saw the beads in, that bag, not the stronger outer bag)
The bag is designed to rip almost instantly. So when you put them in the first time the car drives it rips open and they do their thing.
They DON'T in a big truck tire! They do not work in my motor home running on 22.5 tires! Dealer insisted on putting them in. Drove from Phoenix to OKC. Stopped and paid to have them removed at a Truck shop! Every time there was a bump or chuckhole on I-40, they would get off-balance and start hammering me! It took several miles to get smooth again, just about when I would hit another chuckhole. Truck Shop found one of my tires was perfectly balanced with no weights and the other needed 5 ounces. i will>>Never Ever allow those magic beads to be put in my tires! Fool me once: shame on you. Fool me twice: shame on me!
@@daveh5635 The Counter Act balancing beads he shows here are not plastic but rather smooth glass beads. I use them in my Semi Truck tires for hundred of thousands miles. There's a chart that shows the proper Ounce bag to use for your size tire. Also install the extended valve core that comes with them.
@@Roger_Rabbit_Adventures Who knew? Obviously not my tire dealer! I had them removed at the big Fleet Pride Shop in Weatherford (Hydro) OK. The experience at that shop was bad with beads, so they were not surprised. They had a brand-new state of the art spin balancer . Found one was perfect and other needed 5 ounces. Ahh , such relief! The rears didn’t seem to matter. The fronts on that Freightliner chassis were so sensitive to imbalance! Had never used Fleet Pride, but they were impressive guys there!
I used the balance beads in both my Silverado and my wife's GMC Envoy's new tires and was very impressed. In both I just tossed the beads in still in the bag. I first tried to put them in through the valve stem and was unsuccessful. My only concern is if I need a tire repair will the shop leave them in place. Two thumbs up for balance beads!
If nothing else, visually this is one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a long while!
I bet shops love these when they go spilling everywhere during a tire replacement..
Actually, i use antifreeze in my truck wheels and the shops never spilled more than a few drops so eh?
At least it's not fix a flat or slime
@@Barty.Crowellyeah, finding a half gallon of tire slime is NO fun, talk about a mess.
@1924ab yea especially after they forget about it and drive months or longer with that crqp inside, through a couple hot and cold months. Yuck
Fix a flat will ruin the tire pressure sensors. @@Barty.Crowell
I've been using them in my motorcycle tires for a decade and 150,000 miles. They work great!!! I use the steel beads because you can reuse them.
I reuse ceramic beads all the time in my motorcycle
I sold the first product 25 years ago. The way we explained it then, was the heavy spot on the assembly had more impact force as it contacted the ground, thereby causing the beads to migrate to the lower impact area. Quantity of beads versus tire size was critical.
I helped get it in a LSR truck that raced on the Salt Flats doing over 200MPH with airplane tires. worked great.
Screw the beads, just seeing how the tire reacts to driving is cool and the flexing while turning is mind blowing.
This has brought to my attention how much flexing a time does in three dimensions! It is amazing they last so long!
Excellent video. Thanks for posting!
Thank you, yeah it's actually really amazing The amount of movement a tire goes through and it's lifetime not to mention all the stresses
@@WarpedPerception plus many drive with them under inflated! Lots more sidewall movement!!
I spent 2,500 bucks on a set of 33x12.50-20 wheels and tires for my truck and the shop recommended balance beads cuz they were the new best way to go. A horrible shake around 45 mph that lasted to around 70 and 3 trips back to the tire shop later they took the beads out and balanced them with some stick on weights. problem solved. Not sure why they wouldn't work for me but they wouldn't. Maybe someday ill try a different application but for now i am not a believer.
These Are About As Genius As Filling Your Tire With Fix A Flat. How Many Of These Tires Are Designed To Have A Bunch Of Plastic Balls Wearing Peculiar Parts Of The Tire From The Inside? Damn We're Dealing With A Bunch Of Fucking Downsey Einsteins.
It makes me wonder if there weren’t enough beads in the tire to make it work
I bought Nitto 33x12x20 for my HD2500, have had balance beads since day one, 4 years, and I have never rotated my tires, and they have worn more evenly than any tire I've ever had. 50,000 miles on them and still have half the tread!
@@robertheinkel6225 I wondered the same thing. When you buy them they come in bags, one bag per tire I guess but you would think not all tires are create equal and obviously much different in size. I surely can question the competence of the shop as well. Thier is a reason I do all my auto work myself with the exception of tires since I lack the machine and balancer.
I run 35s with 10oz of off-road beads works excellent. You went wrong going to some pea brain shop. I got my own tire spoons and mount my own. They didn't use enough beads.
I first used balance beads when I worked at McCarthy tires on 18 wheelers I've since ran them in my motorcycle and they really work great I recommend them all the time.
I use them on my 05 Suburban tires and they work very well. When I put the beads in mine I dumped them in the tire after you put the inside bead on the rim then dump the beads on the opposite side of the air valve and then mount the outer bead on the rim and inflate the tire,no mess with beads all over the bead seat getting stuck between the rim and the bead on the tire.
Now this is an awesome video!!! From what we could see the beads were evenly distributed, but to balance the GO-PRO the beads would be out of view. Perhaps next time TWO GO-PROs???
That's a good point.. if they were working wouldn't they end up at the opposite side of the go pro? Maybe there's a lot more beads in there than I realize
Ok, so need enuf beads to counter imbalance. Probly a counter weight opposit the go pro so the GoPro is on the light side.
I've actually had great experiance with balance beads in Harley tires. You can definitely feel an initial gyroscopic effect during initial roll from a stop, which disappears when at road speeds. After that, smoooth sailing
Neat video having the camera in the tire/rim combo. I use these on my atv I use for work and often get to 40-45mph. Smoothed it out considerably.
I have balance beads in my three trailers and my 2 motorcycles, and I have no complaints ,they work great.
There are websites that you put in the tire size of motorcycle, trailers, trucks, or cars and it will show you the amount of weight of beads you need for the tires
They’re in great shape?!? Hell no! Buy new tires that aren’t falling apart.
That's... The joke.
I hope there's as much sarcasm in this comment as there was in him saying the tyre are in great shape 😅
Wow, this was a really cool video. I never thought these balance beads would do much.
I love that sound inside the tire, it’s like entering into another dimension in space
I've never heard of them, but ive been using tire balancing fluid (I don't remember the brand, got a bottle in the barn) for 50 years in my motorcycles. Use tubes & just switch the tube to the new tire. Always worked great.
As you can see my tires are in great shape 😂😂😂
Always wanted to know how those worked, this will be cool.
I remember working at a tire shop and being surprised when all these beads were in a tire!
What's also good about balancing beads is that it balances the entire rotating mass, meaning the rotor or drum.
This is really neat, I found it interesting to see how the tire flexes over the bumps. Thanks for sharing!
Dude you’re one of the most clever AND cool guy on CZcams.
I’m a car guy, whole studies and career into automotive domain, first I’ve never heard about these beads here in France and I’m super curious too, and two…… I’VE NEVER SEEN FROM INSIDE A TIRE WHILE DRIVING THIS IS GENIUS AND HUMONGOUS INTERESTING TO ME !!!!!!
I mean just watching how a tire works from inside this is fkng fascinating !!
And now I’m even more hooked to understand how these beads work…….
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS.
Interesting! I never heard about tire beads. As you showed, they seem to be quite effective. Thanks Matt!
That was really cool seeing inside of the tire. There is a LOT of movement in the sidewalls. Thanks for an interesting You Tube video.
That's really interesting to see how the tire works from inside! Thanks dude. You earned my Subscription
Now I know your daughter dressed you this morning. lol Cool video.
LOL my creative director is a 2nd grader, i need new pants tho
I was trying to think of a similar comment, but yours would be hard to beat...
2:34 Right? Just dump it in!
GoPro in a tire 2.0 This was cool. Thx. Makes you wonder if "Balance Beads" should be SOP on vehicles.
This is a great advertisement for balance beads . . . and even better commercial for GoPro! 😂
Funny intro. Super degradated tire in a fancy shop garage. I always thought tires had tubes in them so that was very interesting to find out.
Thanks 👍
Really cool experiment! Also nice Danny Duncan shirt! I loved the video you did with them. ❤
the danny duncan shirt is so fire lmao
I used to install counteract in tires at an old job. It's pretty cool seeing it in action. We had pre-weighed bags of the beads though. Made it much easier than your method.
I am impressed that your Gopro survived after it came off the wheel. It must have gone through a lot of violent tumbling. Thanks for the video!
This cat ignores physics and Google, but nails CZcams videos that spotlight his balance cluelessness. You do you, bro.
They do not work in my motor home running on 22.5 tires! Dealer insisted on putting them in. Drove from Phoenix to OKC. Stopped and paid to have them removed at a Truck shop! Every time there was a bump or chuckhole on I-40, they would get off-balance and start hammering me! It took several miles to get smooth again, just about when I would hit another chuckhole. Truck Shop found one of my tires was perfectly balanced with no weights and the other needed 5 ounces. i will>>Never Ever allow those magic beads to be put in my tires! Fool me once: shame on you. Fool me twice: shame on me!
100% agree. Balance beads are total bs. Might as well just put sand in your tires. The guy who came up with them is laughing from his mansion I'm sure.
I had no idea balance beads work so well. Thanks, great video! Now we need one with green tire slime and 3 plugs, with one near the side wall- for your fans from NYC. 😂
Dude!! I miss you man!!. I've been away from CZcams and the world since 2022. How u been ?
Yeah green tire slime hahaha.... And tire plugs, I've been using tire plugs forever.
@@WarpedPerception I'm good. Same! been missing your over the top builds. What's this about a brain injury in the comments!? Ouuff, I hope you're recovering ok.
@@NewMind yeah I been away from yt for a minute, pandemic and then Mr.Beast from 10/22 -8/23 then had brain injury in 9/23, happened in the gym upside down exercise, super rare but under the perfect conditions it happened, was in the Trama Level 1 ICU for almost 3 weeks, took all this time to recover it was hell on earth. Thanks for asking man.
@@WarpedPerception I wish you continued good health.
Couple things I learned over the years, Beads work good if installed properly. The balancer may not show them as well because they do need the bumps in the roads to help situate them after centrifugal force has them stuck to the tire. The vibrations will help them spread to where they need to go. Also, I had bad luck with them when they were installed by throwing the 'Bag of beads" in the tire before tire install. Instructions say the bag will disintegrate after a while, but that take way too long. You'll get intermittent out of balance feel, and it will change every time you stop and start again because the bag remnants create a barrier and catch a bunch of the beads throwing the tire out of balance again. The way you installed them is the best and most effective. 👍
Counteract also recommends a transfer pump that is useful with semi truck tires. Have had great success with the glass beads from Counter Act. Like you said they must be installed properly! Also install the extended valve core that comes with them
I got some tire lube on my beads when I installed them that way. They were clumping together inside the tires so I had to vacuum them out. Any ideas?
Use a funnel with a hose that goes past the in the tire, then set the bead. That seems to work best for me anyway...
@@djpg2000 you can use a funnel & hose like longslyde1 said or you can throw the 'inner bag' unopened inside the tire before mounting it. They also make a transfer pump you can use low pressure shop air to transfer them into the tire, works well for semi truck tires already mounted. Think there's an instructional video on Counter Act's site/page
A similar approach has been used in computer optical drives, to prevent unbalanced discs from causing excessive vibration and noise. The spindle motor contains some loose ball bearings that function similarly to those balance beads.
This about to be a banger
I used to have trouble watching you, couldnt reaonate with you or your content. I dont know what it was but it was irrational and unjustified.
Im very glad i found your content and am impressed with everything youve done.
Keep it up, mad quality videos, wish i was able to do a lot of the same stuff you do my dude!
Great video! I use BBs and antifreeze to balance the mud tires on my lifted Chevy. The faster I drive, the better the tires balance out.
Thanks for this vid. I'm amazed at how the beads actually work and I'm surprised the gopro survived!!
After a while those beads start to tear up the tire from the inside. I’ve seen and heard of rubber “Powder” coming off from the inside because of the beads.
This stopped me from using them on my Harley.
I was thinking about that.
@@WarpedPerceptionI was told they are mostly used in Re-Capped Semi Truck tires and not to put them in new tires.
I stayed with the stick on weights for my Harley which don’t look good.
I really wanted to give them a try, but those Harley labeled White Walls are big $$$.
Thanks for Great Video! The camera inside the tire was fantastic.
I was thinking about purchasing this tech for my car and this is the exact type of testing I was looking for! Thank you so much for posting this!! Have you considered testing centramatics or balance master wheel balancers too? Those are supposed to be the best in the business for balancing tires and I'd love to see their comparison in testing, especially on the balancing machine. Also, I've only heard about the upsides to balance beads, but can't seem to find any down sides which makes me suspicious. I'm curious if they could cause noise, damage any tpms sensors, wear the inside of the tires, etc? I just don't know but I do know that every product has it's pros and cons and would be interested in learning about them for balance beads and automatic wheel balances like centramatics and balance masters. Thanks again!
I definitely be worried about the TPMS getting beat up constantly with all these beads but have no definitive data about it, so idk! 🤔🤷🏻♂️👍🏻
Been using them for 10 years in all my vehicle and motorcycle tires. I get about 10000-15000 more miles out of a vehicle tire now and probably 2500 on a motorcycle. They ride really good. I absolutely love them.
Dude thank you. I can't believe that this is the first time I've seen the inside of a tire while in motion and under load!!! Very interesting and informative!!!👍😎💯♥️🇨🇦
Take an old DVD drive from your computer and rock it from side to side. You will hear the balls rolling inside. This the same dynamic balancing method is used as in this video.
Oh! That's what those balls are for!! Awesome, man! Thanks!
Interesting. I ran balance beads in my motorcycle tires for years, both in an 1100 Yamaha and an 1800 Goldwing.. They mostly helped in balancing but did nothing to affect unusual tire wear. I finally went to using Centramatic tire balancers that mounted outside on the wheel on the Goldwing. Smooth as glass to 120 and for the first time with a motorcycle I'm seeing tires wear out all the way without any cupping, scuffing, or other unusual wear patterns. I previously had to change out tires long before the tread was gone, now I'm getting almost twice the mileage.
I’ve been using the balance beads for years in my motorcycle they seem to work great. I use a 1/4” clear tube over the valve stem and one of those plunge cutters without the blade for the vibration. I have to use this method because they’re tubed tires. Those other valves may have been “filtered” valves because sometimes the beads can get caught in the valve. I don’t have the filtered valves so I make sure the valve stem is on the bottom and tap it a couple of times just to make sure no beads get caught in the valve.
The Counter Act balancing beads he shows here are not plastic but rather smooth glass beads. I use them in my Semi Truck tires. There's a chart that shows the proper Ounce bag to use for your size tire. Also install the extended valve core that comes with them as it prevents beads from getting stuck in the Stem
I'm so glad you finally found a good use for a GoPro.
Damn that's cool. Also amazed the gopro worked as well as it did.
I loved the view from inside the tire!
Very cool to see the inside of a tire going down the road. Spin balance will always be the better, though!
I ran balancing beats for 6years+ on multiple cars. And yes they do work very well. Just make sure you have 1oz more in the tires per tire. The extra weight makes it even smoother on 100mph and more. The vibration you saw each time the tire hits the surface ground causes the not balanced beats to move a bit till they hit the correct spot to balancing out the whole tire assembly.
I watched this just to see go pro video from inside a tire. Worth the price of admission right there, Great Job!! That the beads work is kind of freaky, seems too good to be true so I figured it was just more snake oil. Super video, sir!
This is going to make me more humble with the gas pedal when driving from now on. 😅😅 I have so much respect for Tyres. Thank you.
I ran balance beads in a Harley Streetglide, they work great, i liked knowing the balance weights cant fall off on a long road trip, my last trip qas over 6000 miles and the balance beads work great, i even out ran a tornado where i had to hit 100mph and hold it because the sky was black and i had to get out of there in the middle of no where Kansas.
Well, I've never seen the inside of a tire while underway. Cool video.
No surprise to me that the balancing bit worked. 45 years ago, I used a semi-viscous motorcycle tyre sealant for the purpose of sealing any future punctures. The manufacturers also claimed that it automatically balanced the tyre (which it seemed to) and caused the tyre to run a bit cooler (which I couldn't test).
I glossed over your mounting method for the GoPro onto the rim. But man that is impressive.
We used them in our agencies firetrucks, as well as F250's F350's and agencies PD vehicles, and so far so good. No issues. We would just toss the bag into the rim with the tire not seated yet. Using the tire machine to push the tire away from the rim to provide the gap needed then we would just air up the tire. Once the vehicle gets moving, the bag breaks open and self balances and the bag doesn't get in the way or matter much.
I am so impressed how the tyre sounds so different from camera compared to you in the cabin. Good stuff, man! Subscribed!