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TBS Crossfire Beginner Guide (2023 Update)
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00:00:00 - It's time for a new Crossfire setup guide!
00:00:22 - Update the firmware on your module
TBS Agent Web is at: www.team-black...
00:03:59 - Receiver wiring to FC
00:07:14 - Configure Betaflight to recognize the receiver
00:08:54 - Download TBS Agent Lite script
Download the script from this link: www.team-black...
00:11:22 - Configure controller for external module
00:12:28 - Bind receiver to module
00:15:51 - Crossfire options: Region
00:17:33 - Crossfire options: Frequency
00:18:26 - Crossfire options: Max Power
00:19:37 - Crossfire options: Dynamic Power
00:20:37 - Crossfire options: 8ch vs 12ch
00:21:24 - Crossfire options: RF Profile 50 Hz vs. 150 Hz
00:23:57 - Tracer options: Output power
00:25:10 - Tracer options: TX Antenna
00:25:34 - Have I earned your support today?
00:26:52 - TBS Agent M is not just for flashing
00:27:33 - TBS can control your video transmitter? Yup.
My tutorial about setting up TBS MyVTX is at: • TBS MyVTX | Never powe...
00:28:14 - TBS Sixty9
For more information about TBS Sixty9: • TBS Sixty9 should prob...
00:28:49 - What if you brick your hardware?
How to unbrick your TBS hardware: • So you bricked your TB...
Josh...I hope you realize that without your knowledge lots of folks would have given up. Thank you so much!
Purchased a Boxer, Crossfire mini Tx and Nano Rx here in the UK. Followed the video to set it all up and all went very smoothly. A thousand thanks.
I know it's a beginners guide but maybe helpful for some: If you can't reach the bind button, reset the receiver before updating tx module, it'll go into bind mode next power up automatically.
Excellent
Never misses a single step. I can always count on you to have everything I need to know about my gear. Good job!
I love the fact that I can configure my vtx via the receiver.
Still using my OG full size 2W module from these days and that thing just works and never dies and never failsaves. I even accidentally forgot to turn it off and it full powered without an antenna until the battery was emty and it survived. TBS is just making really good tuff. Also went through a lot of their receivers and VTXes through all these years, no problems!
Thanks for the video! I almost forgot I have a pile of Crossfire stuff that I need to list on FPV Exchange.
Crossfire was a great upgrade to rid myself of the Frsky protocol using my QX7. No complaints and a bit better user friendly experience than ELRS. I left Crossfire for 2.4GHz ELRS last year and have no regrets with a superior F1000 radio link for LOS flying.
Sorry im new to this fpv, so what makes it better with 2,4GHz, and what is LOS flying?
You're a huge help, thanks man!!
Thanks for the tutorial, Joshua! 😊
But... Binding phrases... ❤️
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks so much Joshua for this tutorial.
This will help me out alot by having all this info in one easy to follow video. Keep up the good work.
This is, as always, useful! Cheers!
FWIW new Boxer old CRSF. I module followed your instructions TBS Agent Lite came up "searching for devices". After a few power cycles and trying to figure out where I went wrong XF Micro Tx came up and I'm good. Thanks for everything. I'm going to make a contribution. Soon.
This was the video I needed after all those issues with agent X and crsf v3 failsaving with betaflight 4.3 Tomorrow is update day ✌️🤘
The "My VTX" feature eliminates the need for fiddling with vtx tables ( BF4.3+ now makes vtx tables easy, but MyVtx means no tables). I was also surprised how many situations it is more useful than the BF OSD Smart Audio, because you dont need to have a video feed to change your vtx settings. Great if you're crashed out in the field, or on the bench.
great video, just bought a new radio with a crossfire module and want to switch from the dji remote - great timing
Excellent!
Thanks Joshua....Very informative
11 Days late on saying thank you got cross fire for qx7 tuesday 17th missed the post thanks again
Thank you Mr. Bardwell
I totally appreciate your hard work and these tutorials. My Tango 2 was shipped with everything wrong. Biggest problem was the gimbals, too much *grease* and calibration errors. Could not get it perfect until I took it apart and did some spring cleaning. Only then, was it perfect. My BetaFPV Lite Radio3 and Zorro were perfect with gimbal calibration. All others needed help.
Then it was shipped 868 or whatever! Changed that too...(even though at close range there was not difference). But step outside of that range, my FRSKY was better or the same. But was it? The antenna looked attached, but not really....just silly how that was my fault for not checking when it was taken apart. But again, No buyers remorse. The gimbals feel really good, the binding was easy and the less is more approach is nice. I also had not a clue about *dynamic power* and some of the other functions.
Ohhh, under settings called "Op Mode" , it was on *Forced Tele*...so I switched that too. Now in binds up/makes connection real fast. Not sure why, but everything seems better too.
Yeah my Op mode was also on force telemetry which I think makes it run at 5hz packet rate which is basically unflyable on a multirotor. Almost lost my quad over a mountain as a result. Doh!
Thanks for the update. My Tango2 is still on 6.07 😆
Still on 4.11 here!!!
Thank you so much for the toutorial. It helped me so much ;)
thanks. I learned something.
Well I did learned a lot today! Thanks Joshua!
hello joshua i have a question i hope you help me, i'm lukas and i have a taranis qx7s with a tbs crossfire module a buddy tied my 5" quad back then (a year and a half ago)
now i've bought a meteor 65 crossfire editon and i've been trying to connect it for a month but i just can't get it to work i've tried so many things but i'm no tech genius.
I hope you help me :D
Cant figure out the connection now. Starting to think my cross fire rx is bad. Doing this wierd thing where the rx is green like its paired. (And it sort of is). But my tx shows like a yellowish light. Which it should be green (meaning binded) and I dont know why its yellow. When i push the button on the tx. The tx goes into the green blinking mode. Which is pairing. It also makes my rx red (not bound anymore) Soon as i stop binding mode on tx. It turns back to the yellowish on tx but rx is now green like if it was connected
There is also an option in crossfire to control the max. dynamic output by a switch, i use it to prevent the module from going to 2W when there's no rx plugged in.
If you do this, very important to link it also to the ARM switch, so that you don't forget to change the output power before a flight!
@@twinturbostang depends on what output levels are used, i have set it to 250/1000/2000mw, but yes if the lowest one is 10mw then you might want to put some logic with an arm switch in there.
Hey, I recognize that quadcopter :). Love the guides!
Excellent video JB, thank you!
My zorro came with tbs agent already loaded thank god and thank radiomaster
You can use tbs agent to change ELRS settings also, if you like the ui better.
@@kurtzFPV Not all Zorros have the Elrs radio.
I have noticed with binding out of the box is that my nano and sixty9 were shipped in 868 and I would have to temporarily set my Tx to 868 then it would bind and I could set it back to 915
That's surprising. I haven't encountered that.
I would be screwed without your info. Thanks.
Great refresher course on crossfire. Made me realize I haven’t updated in a while am I’m behind. Lol. I hope to see you do an updated video on the ghost system soon. @JoshuaBardwell
Спасибо. Отличное видео. Все понятно и доступно простому новичку.
So after I dragged the files over to my RM TX16s SD card I can no longer get the long hold scroll wheel menu to show up. Long holding the scroll wheel does nothing now. What happened?
Thank you for your worok sir
A great informative video.....thanks...:)
Good job JB....I wonder when the RX prices will fall??...🤔😳😏🇬🇧
great vid
Another excellent video thank you JB
we need more beginners tutorial like how to bind elrs iflight quads with elrs radiomaster tx16s
Nice video JB
I really appreciate all the help through your videos which are super informative and helpful so far!
Anyway my crossfire Rx and Tx seem to be faulty or unable to bind.
Rx shows a solid green light (FC solid red) and pressing binding buttons doesn't get me into binding mode at all.
Tried everything I found in the web and followed manuals RX TX versions are the same but still don't know what to do now.
If anyone has a lead where to start troubleshooting I would more than appreciate it.
I'm sure this is a fantastic video...and I will watch it once I am able to finish processing the fact that January 2021 was TWO YEARS AGO. Thank you.
[Wait, it's not 2020?!?]
i have a tx16s and a tbs nano rx that i just put in my quad i stuck in the step where the tx16s i having a blue ring light on the modulke and reciever(nano on the quad) is green. but it will not respond to activationb ocn the killswitch to set quad in idle and take off.
Thanks! as usual
How much do you want to show us how to make a ground station tripod with a walksnail and a crossfire module on it ? So we can fpv inside with a projector screen and have the spotters outside ? Or is that even possible ? A small whoop or radio controlled car even ?
I really wish someone would put together a buying guide, TBS crossfire fpv whoop/controller/goggles etc. video. There is literally no video out there explaining this. Only "get a DJI goggle/controller" for easiest use.
I really thought that this guy was "brick" from an old tv show.
No offense Josh. Your content is so valuble!
Alright Josh?
As soon as I plug a Lipo in, my quad starts beeping and doesnt stop. How do i get it to shut up? I've turned off usb tab under beeper configuration in Betaflight, but it's just constantly beeping as soon as it has power. It's well annoying as Im waiting for update/bind etc. Thanks.
Hello. I need to use a mark5 o3 crossfire version with a dji fpv remote controller 2 (using the o3 air unit). How is it possible? Do i need to disconnect any cable from the crossfire? Thank you a lot.
Hello Mr. Bardwell and thank you very much for your videos and invaluable guidance! I have a Taranis X9D Plus bound to a TBS CROSSFIRE TX LITE Long Range Transmitter and my OLED screen, in the back of the TBS agent, is so dim that you can hardly see it's working! Does this sound familiar to you? Thank you very much in advance and I am sorry for any inconvenience!
16:10 Of course I had to press FCC. How do I set it back to open? That option disappeared.
I had to update from 4.03 because of a new v3 RX i got low rsssi and found the rx jumps to 0w pwr after power cycle i use the channel 12 for Rssi/lq ..
so my problem is the rx dont save power output max pwr.
i run dynamic set up.
would be very thankful for your advice
Hello, I updated my tbs micro module to version 6.19 and now I don't have telemetry, I use a taranis qx7 Open tx 2.2.2, what did I do wrong?
I have the same issue, did u ever solve? Idk if I have to update my radio?
So today I resurrected my X9D-plus flashed up to date firmware no problem. Flashed new TBS crossfire micro also no problem but when I open new model on my radio and try to set external RF to CRSF the radio simply blinks out and returns to the menu with out changing to crossfire. Tried different models and reflashing everything and searching but it doesn’t even seem to be a problem anyone else has had? Any help would be extremely appreciated.
Sir Joshua wondering why tbs agent lite lua does not have a setting to adjust the nano rx telemetry power output? Hope the devs can answer why?
Great channel and great work at all! Thank you!
I just updated my crossfire micro TX to 6.19 which says it reenable the CRSF V3 protocol. But in my TX16S it still shows me CRSFshot. Could you explain me why? Is this right? Is V3 a kind of shot?
And on the external module screen I could set the baudrate. Now its on 400k. Could I set this higher or is this the max. rate CRSF micro TX supports?
good evening and happy new year my friend I need your help. I have a graupner mc-20 transmitter and I want to make it long range. has not set for an external module. Is there a way to change the transmitter? thank you very much and keep up the very good work you guys on youtube.....
Power switch also should be mentioned, great thing to have on arming switch for example...
I hate software that forces you to register an account with the company for no good reason. The Agent X application allows you to skip account registration/login. At least for now anyway. But the Agent Web does not. You have to create an account to use it.
i need help, why my receiver not flashing any lights Thanks
Thanks @JoshuaBardwell. My crossfire telemetry is giving me big headaches. Rxbt is continously jumping from the actual battery voltage to 100% voltage, messing up the battery alerts on my radio which require 4s or more below 3.6V per cell to activate. Similarly I have continous drops of the signal and RSSI and all connected values go to minimum for a fraction of a second. I did weeks of troubleshooting, including buying a new radio (good excuse, lol), testing 2 different drones with the same TBS Nano RX module (same result), changing frequency, power, RF profile etc... Is there anything else I can try? PS Note that my drones were purchased 3y ago with Betaflight 4.1 and I now updated to 4.4 with some trouble in setting them up again...
Did you uodate crossfire firmware on your module?
Yes, on both receiver and transmitter. It’s very strange, really. I did lots of research online but could not find anyone with the same issues. It looks like a continuous interference causing this, but I would understand that being an explanation for the signal drop, but battery at 100% really doesn’t make any sense
I have a Spektrum IX14 for all of my Helicopters and planes. Is it worth it to buy the module or just buy another transmitter for drones? I'd like to use my IX for all of my aircraft.
Wow..... No full size crossfire love..... Savage JB
If i have updated my cross fire module will i lose my recover binding?
After updating my crossfire module I had to rebind the receivers on my quads.
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Im on Betaflight 10.9 configurator runninf BF 4.4 on my Diatone mamba f722 APP, and for the life of me i cannot get stick inputs to show up in betaflight. I checked the ports amd tried rewiring the rx and tx wires to different port numbers with no luck. also running agent lite version .92 with tango II xf version 6.19 and the RX firmware is also v6.19. Has anyone else been having this issue at all?
This video was great help for me to get to know this radiomaster boxer i just got. With all of this crossfire hassel i might have to swith to 2.4 and move to ELRS but I do like TBS and crossfire but this hassel just may not be worth it
any help woullld be aweeeesooomeee
Hi Joshua, I have Tango 2 Pro V3, a lot of articles online talking about TBS Crossfire Nano RX tracer that you mount in the back of the controller, can you share some thoughts on it. Thanks
I don’t have time for ELRS
🐐 🐐
I have a question for you, how long does it take to update these? Im stuck on 6.17 since I have gotten my micro. There has been 6.19 since atleast september when I first got mine. It seemingly fails each time going on 6.19. Bricks the module and its a whole hour process to get it back on 6.17 and working again. Half the time on 6.17 it fails to update. What am I doing wrong lol. Doesnt matter the pc I use, or web or desktop versions.
I would email him or ask on a live stream, this great question might never get seen.
If the module refuses to update over USB, I think I would have to contact TBS support about that. It should only take perhaps 5 minutes to complete the flash. If the flash fails, bootloader mode should restore it in the same amount of time.
@@JoshuaBardwell perfect thank you. maybe an issue with mine then.
I tried the 150hz preset with dynamic mode off. My Tango 2 was yelling at me way too much about LQ so I went back to Dynamic mode. I don't mind it but maybe I would be a better pilot without it....who knows.
Rather than use dynamic, I would recommend locking at 50 hz.
@@JoshuaBardwell I’ll give it a shot. Thanks JB!
1st like ! What up Bardwell?!?! Thx 4 the great content!
hey JB Im just wondering my rssi changed i looked into the sensors. Is it currently rfmd 2 and rsnr 80 tsnr 70 with rpm as a value ?
what baudrate should i chose on my edgetx remote? 400k? 921k?
400k is sufficient for Crossfire.
Is it still possible to get the full tx
I’m going back to crossfire. Elrs not binding after flashing go same passphrase is maddening. 3x battery is not solving the issue
Need to confirm they are on matching firmware versions 3.x to 3.x. If one is on 2.x it can't bind.
What module and receiver is it?
Anyone know if TBS will be releasing the PRO version of Crossfire Diversity Nano RX with 500mw output power?
Whats the diffrence between the tbs nano and micro? I want long range and live in the EU
thanks once again!! @joshua bardwell which sd card file should the tango 2 pro have if its updated to all the latest public firmwares i keep getting a bad sd card content error on startup and wont bind to any rxs after even after reset.
In the last video you recommended staying on 8 Channels. Do you meanwhile know the "disadvantages" when switching to 12 Channels as you know recommend to use all 12 Channels now?
Yes finally the answer has been revealed, and it turns out it was what I guessed all along. When you switch from 8ch to 12ch mode, the aux channels are polled at 1/2 the rate. So 25 Hz or 125 Hz. Instead of sending ch. 4-8 in every packet, it alternates between 4-8 and 9-12. So if you were using the channels to drive servos, the update rate might be unacceptable, but if you are simply using them as aux channels with a multirotor, it's fine.
Great video on crossfire, I would like a video on ELRS just like this video. Nice job jb🔥🔥
Ok here is it's 😊 czcams.com/video/J3Hg2f7RL1A/video.html
Can't wait for the next TBS Crossfire/Tracer how-to video in the next two years!
random but what do you hink would be the better option the mambo or the tango 2
👍👍👍👍👍
Hi Josh, can I connect this to a spectrum or radiolink transmitter? Thanks
No I don't think so.
Before you recommended to use their latest firmware, including beta versions. Is that still the case ?
Yes.
I still remember the days when you and TBS wanted to "kill" each other.
It's nice to see that you are friends know.
Today I learned from you how to make friends with former enemies and I got a looong list... 🤣
Is it possible to move Crossfire Tx V2 module between two radio transmitters? I have one TX module and want to move it back and forth between my Radiomaster TX16s and Jumper Pro and be able to fly the same quad without setting up all switches (arming ...) each time. Appreciate any help
Yes you can do it but you need to manually set up the switches on both controllers to be the same.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you very much for your kind assistance 👍🙏
Agent X is now called TBS Agent. It's still an application.
TBS recommends that you use Agent M / Agent Web as of about 6.17 I believe that was the case. There was some problem with Agent for PC and it was causing issues. Maybe they fixed it.... I don't know I just switched to Web.
@@JoshuaBardwell Ah didn't know
I'm following through this guide, but my nano RX does not enter binding mode (blinking red) even after I push the button. What could be the problem?
What is the LED doing?
@@JoshuaBardwell Stays in red, no matter how much or little I press the button. Pretty strange. However, a couple of desperate restarts got it working and binding correctly now! No clue of what it could have been. After that, the rest of the guide helped me with the rest of the configuration! Thank you very much!
Is there a way to update my crossfire TX without having to rebind and update all my receivers again?
if they are already bound , just update the TX and the RX will get the updates over the air . once you power up the quad
After updating the TX, the receiver should still be bound. If you power up the TX and put it into bind mode, then power up the RX, it should immediately say, "Update RX?" without needing to press the bind button.
@@antoineozaneaux6881 Depending on the version jump you have to rebind all recievers. Another comment mentioned the workaround to reset reciever first, so it will go into binding mode next time you power it up. Makes it a bit easier.
Is it possible to change my region after I select it? If i'm traveling to Europe I want to change it from FCC to CE
Yes I show how to do it here. czcams.com/video/kLiVzoNSDh4/video.htmlsi=x4O0OM4QIRIsthee
Oh that still exists?
What crossfire?
@@Anthony_Gutierrez crossfire and TBS in general 😅
@@t0tobi yep 4 years strong never a failsafe and it just works. Receiver FW updates via your transmitter and no jumping through open source hoops to set everything up. Us weekend warriors don’t have tons of time to mess around. We just want to fly with the time we have.
i PAY $100.00 per hour for TRUE bind and fly ELRS quads
i purchase the TX and quads of my choice
i send them to YOU yes you THE IT GODS
you work your magic and set up my switches WHILE on the PHONE with me .
you send them back to me
i thank you every time i FLY .
i rented skis to a customer yesterday . all i did was THROW a pile of random ill sized equipment and a screwdriver at him and said have fun . me and the rest of the ski techs laughed and went skiing all while saying hey look how good we are .
@@t0tobi I think they need to make changes to their business model and development soon. But I've never had a problem with crossfire. Also use elrs.
hai sir, i have installed crossfire filmware and sdcontents. the folder appear on my taranis qx7 then after i executed i found my crossfire nano reciever but i cannot select or click it. can you help me with that?
Did you ever find a fix? my QX7 doesnt want to run some lua scripts and 'crossfire.lua' says waiting for Crossfire
@@leea4839 yes, i fix it.... install Tbs on laptop than or use qx7 to update your crossfire, then only you can access. but for my i cant do with qx7, i use laptop.
@@leea4839 same issue here after updating my cf module, any help?
@@M.TTT. Hey mate, I ended up following a different video and manually bound my receiver to my QX7 which worked. the youtube video is called 'How to bind Crossfire and Taranis - the EASIEST and FASTEST way (no luascripts!)'
@leea4839 ah alright, thank you for replying! I actually ended up updating my qx7s to the lastest openTX x.x.15 and then it finally worked with the crossfire nano TX module with 6.36 firmware. Both my nano receivers also bound and updated fine. I see they have "edgeTX" for radios now, but I didn't feel like risking it switching over.
@joshua bardwell hey Josh Hoping to get some helpful answers if your are willing, I just finished my 5 in tbs one and watched your vid on motors revving by them selves on the bench with out props, I understand that’s normal, but with mine with the props on when I try to fly it it gets of the ground at about 15 to 25 percent throttle then shoots straight into the air full throttle like a bat out of hell no control until I smack disarm and catch it, in receiver on bet flight it looks fine when I move gimbals and rotate drone. driving me nuts searching google so I thought I’d try to ask you. I have 1900 kv emax ecos skystars 55amp f405 hd2 stack fly sky a8s receiver and rush fpv race 2 vtx.thankyou josh so much look forward to a response love your vids man! Thankyou!!!
My guess is your motors are spinning the wrong direction. Assuming you are on Betaflight 4.3, go to the Motors tab and first run the Motor Order wizard, then run the Motor Direction wizard.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks man ! Even if it takes of fine? It doesn’t flip around or anything it goes full throttle instantly. Flies straight as an arrow up till it hits the ceiling. I’m running a f405 55a skystars hd2 with a 3s lipo 2200mah 35c and 1900 kv motors. Your supposed to flash in blheli and then flash in beta flight right? Thanks man I appreciate it!
@Dinker Mcplinker Sounds like your filters slider may be set too high or low. A lot of noise getting to the gyro. Had this problem on a couple builds myself. I'd arm it, bump the throttle, and to the moon she goes. Adjusting the filters fixed it.
@Joshua Bardwell I'd like to ask you about 8vs12 channels before (2 years ago) you claimed that 8 channels is the better than 12 channels (because TBS said so without any reasonable explanation) and now 12 is OK? What has changed?
TBS revealed that the only difference is that in 12ch mode the aux channels are updated half as often.
Josh, Mate help please, Boxer......Did the agent lite update, But where you skipped those files to update, I replaced them to update to 0.96,
Now Tbs Agent lite will not load form the first TOOLS menu.....Error message reads......(Syntax error ?:0 attempt to call a nil value)......It will load from...Scripts/TOOLS...This is the only way to open Tbs Agent Lite.......and I'll be buggered if I know!
Cheers mate, Jas.
Are you sure you've got the latest version of the script?
Well that was an adventure, I deleted the 2 TBSAGENTLITE lua scripts in tools...Not the TBS agent lite folder...
Then went to my taranis saved sd files on pc and used those 2 lua scripts from it's sd card.....which is on EdgeTx 2.8.3.....Copied the 2 lua scripts over to the Boxer sd and Bingo! All there and working as it should....still weird!
Cheers mate.
I remember that crossfire had 4HZ 50HZ and 150HZ so no it only has 50 and 150.
You can still get 4hz with force telemetry under Op Mode