GAS or DIESEL - What's BETTER to DRIVE AROUND THE WORLD OVERLAND?
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- Is it better to drive a gas or diesel powered vehicle on a long-term International Overland expedition around the world?
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Thanks for watching! Next video (coming on Thursday) I'll cover all the other topics related to fuel - how much range do you need, what about filtration and quality and what happens when you run out in remote locations around the world.
The Isuzu Galloper was a 4 cylinder diesel.
I know Overlanders who travel with Euro 5 diesels throughout Africa and Southamerica and are just now stuck in Canada. They never had problems with Diesel quality, even in Bolivia and that was the worst Diesel they encountered.
I had no idea. I had assumed that diesel was the only way to power a vehicle in the remotest parts of the world. EYES OPENED!!! This is so good to hear and was so informative that I really appreciate the information. Well done and thank you for the update.
You're welcome, I'm happy to hear it was helpful!
@Atlantic Pacific Europe is even lower sulphur than North America. We're maximum 10ppm whereas the US is maximum 15ppm. Also, ours is much higher cetane as well, so European diesels have to remapped to work properly on US diesel.
@Atlantic Pacific It's been 10ppm max. since 2008 when EURO V was introduced. EURO IV back in 2005 specified a max. 50ppm sulphur. The US has been 15ppm max. nationally since 2010.
I guess all those emissions and computers from 2007 onwards has changed the landscape *limp mode activated *
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Very well explained and I totally agree. Living in South Africa all my life, and over the last 10 years I have owned various diesel 4x4s and had trouble with all of them (meaning trouble which I was not able to repair easily or cheaply). The last 6 years I have been driving a gas / petrol v6 Toyota Prado, and will never go back to diesel. It’s a common discussion around the camp fire, and I respect everyone’s opinions and experience, but for my experience petrol is the only engine I feel confident driving around Africa and southern African countries. 473000kms on the clock and still solid and reliable and cheap to maintain.
Were all those diesels new models (since 2010)? Were they japanese brands?
I had a different impression before watching this video, yes, I thought diesel is the way to go. Very informative video, always excellent contents, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Ok, I was beginning to think I was crazy remembering a blog post of your's talking about getting a diesel conversion. Thanks for talking about that so I don't need to schedule a psych eval.
He did an OM606 conversion, it broke when out testing and he sold it off. :(
Great advice. I have see too many high end computerized diesel vehicles in limp mode in Africa. The new Land Rover Discovery is notorious for going into limp mode even with a broken tail light bulb never mind dirty diesel.
Damn it!!! I just super charged my ride.... excellent video my friend. I like how detail oriented you are.
Very helpful videos for international overland driving. Thanks.
Two years ago I tried to find such information before picking right vehicle, but it was not simple. I think people (mostly from EU, like me) consider Diesel engines better for overlanding because they know nothing about sulfurs standards (it is not common knowledge), that modern CR pumps that are very delicate to fuel quality (this is why Toyota LC J120 and J150 with D-4D Diesel engines are not popular in Africa, but J70s with 4.2 Diesel last forever) or t.ex. how African countries look like nowadays. I collected all important information what convinced me my choice was good. It was easier because I personally disliked Diesels. This is why I chose a petrol 4WD for me and my wife for ours overland trips. It was not easy here in Europe (t.ex. petrol LC150 is not offered in my country anymore, Jeep Wrangler JL is not offered with V6 Pentastar; 2L Turbo and 2.2 Diesel only), but not impossible. My friends look at me like I am crazy but all are amazed how good fuel consumption my petrol 4L V6 Toyota 4WD has (last check: avg 12,5 l/100 km - 900 km of city/highway/back roads/rural roads). All you said here is very truth. Those who do not believe can google articles about modern fuel Diesel pumps problems in Africa. It is usually 10-20 tkm and they have to be replaced by new. So the real choice for overlanders traveling the World is: old simple Diesel engine or nearly ANY petrol. Cheers from PL.
Excellent video! Thank you so much!
I have no plans to see the world, but this was both really interesting and surprising information, probably valuable input for people considering this
Great points Dan and very well explained. Thank you !
Very welcome
Fantastic content. I haven’t seen this information anywhere else.
Thank you very much, this was a mind opening for me thanks again
Great information thanks for sharing. 👊👍😎
Excellent explanation!!! Thanks a lot for it!
Forty years I've lusted for a diesel. Until today, 7/2/2020.
We had gas and diesel Land Rovers in Ethiopia, and the diesel went twice as far on the same tank as the gas and the diesel had way more power down low. Then, they were so alike that they shared the same engine block, then, in the 1960s Series II Land Rovers.
My problem is failing to put together that times have changed for vehicles as well as nations. And me. So, thank you for updating my programming. Now I'm even happier with my 2012 Rubicon.
Thanks Michael - the world certainly is different. I've wanted a diesel 4x4 for a long, long time, but it has sunk in over the last few years that I either need to get one from the 80s or 90s if I want to drive around the world, or if I get a new one I'll be stuck exploring North America or Australia.
Such is the reality right now!
Very valuable information. Thank you!
Thanks Dan! I thought the same as most people here. But now......i love my 4L straight six in my XJ quite more than i already did. Huge thanks for all of your content man!!!!!!
You're very welcome!
That makes sense!! Tnks for sharing your experiences!!
Glad it was helpful!
I simply LOVE your videos! I drove a 2001 Diesel VW Bug for about 16 years, put over 320K miles on it, loved it. Last month when I purchased my Jeep I wanted Diesel one but had a feeling the v6 gas engine was the right way to go, you just confirmed it, thank you!
That is awesome!
That’s quality info! Thanks.
Good to know.. Thanks! This runs totally counter to all I had heard before-long before-but your commentary on the new diesel changes has it all making sense.
I was waiting on diesel Jeeps in the US, but when they got here they were only 3.0 liters, and required auto-trans. Each day I become even more glad that I opted for the gasoline man-trans instead!
Great information!
Great video! Thanks man! Watching this video and listening to what you have to say can literally safe you thousands of Euros. I can agree to what you say: friends with whom I shipped from Europe to South America got stuck after a couple of thousand kilometers in the north of Argentina. They were traveling with a newish Diesel van, and their engine stopped working due to the lower diesel quality. Cost them a lot of money and effort to get all sorted.
Excellent video -- one of the best I have recently seen on CZcams. I currently own a modern diesel 4x4 +modified 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with lots of off-road after-market enhancements), and have had a modern diesel sedan and many gas 4x4s. I drove a new 2000 Isuzu Galloper 4x4 thoughout Costa Rica back in 2000. I like my modern diesel very much, but my next newer 4x4 will almost definitely have a gasoline engine. Thank you, again, for the excellent analysis of this topic.
I'd love to get an EcoDiesel Grand Cherokee or Wrangler... but I know I'd never leave North America with it!
Great information, thank you for sharing your experience.
Nice touch having a spider falling on your front right fender at minute 7 🕷👍
Glad it was helpful! - ha, didn't see that!
That was a nice logical analysis, you changed our perception.
Very well explained mate!
Great video! I asked for it days ago and It´s great. You solve all my cuestions! Thanks!
Happy to help - let me know if you have more topics you want me to cover!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Thank you very much for your help! I'm planning to do a trip next summer, from Mexico to maybe Panama for a start, so right now we are designing our tour. I'll let you know if some other topic come along. Mean while We´ll be watching all your videos. Again thank you!
Good real info. Thanks
Thanks so much for making this video! I have been on the fence for a while now, but you just convinced me to go gas. I didn't want all the complexity of the new diesels, nor the cost. And working on one of the new diesels in the field is an absolute nightmare!
People travel to the most remote and interesting places on gas powered motorcycles. I'm going down Latin America on a motorcycle and the only preparation in regards to fuel I've done is to install a pre-filter in the filler-neck with water a separator.
Great video as always!
Post video and during and after trip impressions! Even cell phone video will be awesome.
@@daveybernard1056 I have a few videos so far! Will make more as i can continue after the pandemic, the bike is in storage in Costa Rica for now sadly :(
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@@GustafN I'm thinking of doing the same thing. I want to do it in a 250cc. Do you think that would work out alright?
@@jo1e-de-v1vre something like a Honda 250 would be perfect, wish I’d fit comfortably on one!
@@GustafN Luckily I'm smol. I'm assuming Japanese brands have a good after market presence in central and south america. Do you know if this is true? If so I might look into Suzuki or Yamaha bikes.
Rock on bruva. Really hard to argue against this guy. Sound, sound advise contained once again. Never really given this much thought as I've been one of those people where 'Well its just gotta be a diesel'. Gunner have to go away and digest this one me thinks....
This is so interesting ! Thanks a lot for the refined different options!
Glad you liked it!
Great info, thanks so much.
Glad it was helpful!
Such a precise and helpful advice thank you . Many now are building new Dodge heavy duty trucks for overlanding with diesel motors not taking into consideration the low sulfur requirement fuel .
Right on
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Awesome content and topic Dan! Keep them coming!
More to come!
Everything I've seen, including your videos, has made me go all in on my 2003 manual v6 Tacoma for the pan American. Easy to work on, inconspicuous, capable, and no car payment 🤠
Absolutely perfect!
Ur car still sucks tho because its unsafe
Good information thanks
I just bought a '20 Wrangler a few months before the diesel came out. I was regretting this decision but feel a lot better now. Thanks Dan, I appreciate your videos.
Good choice!
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Totally unexpected perspective, helped a lot thanks.
Glad it helped!
I found this very interesting and was sure I needed to diesel swap my jk 3.6. Thanks for taking the time.
Glad it was helpful! I wasted a LOT of time and money trying to diesel swap my 3.8 JK.
Please, please learn from my mistake. It is absolutely NOT worth it.
Youre making some really good points on the newer diesels and all their EPA equipment. I was having a conversation with my brother the other week about that very topic. The new emmissions equipment and electronics ruin the reliability and durability that make diesels "better" than gas in the first place. It used to be pretty common to get a million miles out of an old straight 6 Cummins if you treated her right! Now you're lucky to get 200k out of any of the new high pressure V8s most major brands are putting out.
Great video and info as usual Dan. 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m certainly one of those people who thought diesel would be better for international travel, but taking what you said, and seeing how much DEF my neighbor uses on his pickup, you make 100% sense.
Very good advice, Thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
Your videos are a gold mine of information and I'm sure it would save many folks major headaches if they didn't make the right choice!
Once again thanks for your excellent commentary and yes I do agree with most of what you say. To back you up Mitsubishi stopped selling diesel Canters in North America, actually they will soon be not selling any Canters there, and Earthcruiser are now making their North American overland truck on gas trucks, but on the other side of the coin a couple from UK, Tuckstruck, have spent the last six years driving through Africa and the America’s in a Euro5 Iveco Daily without modification and very little problem. Good filters are critical.
I had a Toyota BJ60 with mechanical injection. I would have been more worried about getting low sulphur fuel. Some mechanical distributors use engine oil for lubrication, but others require sulphur in the diesel.
Royal Enfield made a diesel motorcycle at one time. Good to keep a check on world change for consumables.
Funny, I don't do overlanding, but building a weekender out of my 89 Jeep YJ. I thought about putting a diesel in it, but declined. I like the easy to maintain and fix Weber Carb, but what I did do, was add Propane, so now it's Dual Fuel!! Can run a forklift tank or a BBQ tank in a pinch. For FL and Hurricanes (no power), Propane is still around, even without power.
Good vid and channel, subscribed!
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I only just discovered your Channel recently. You just convinced me to go ahead with my old 2¼ Petrol Land Rover. Or even with the mighty V8 in my Defender 😊
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey Dan, good video. Would love more info on fuel quality. When I traveled across Africa 20 years ago I had 2 inline filters and still suffered from junk in the fuel, particularly in rural areas. Keep up the good work!
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Very cool video.
Thanks for useful videos. We are preparing for long adventures and we invested in Delica. We bought gas Delica. The reason is availability of spare parts. The engine is V6 - 6G72 and it is available in almost all countries of the world. For US and Canada, Mitsubishi produced Pajero and Montero Sport, some of engines installed in Dodges models. I think availability of spare parts should be also main factor for choosing overland vehicle.
Good choice!
Congratulations mate, very good videos, not biased, on the contrary based on experience, common sense and in an objective point of view that is: the gold here is The Trip itself, not the equipment or the vehicle, those are just tools that you need to tackle it. Thanks for sharing!
Well said!
Hello my friend. I recommend that you look into a plug'n play performance chips. I have a 2014 f150 supercrew with the 5.0 v8. I put in a Thorton performance chip and now I get 18.5 mpg combined driving and 24 mpg freeway. Totally worth it!
Nice video mate, as you know here in Australia we have an obsession with diesel but I can’t for the life of me bring myself to buy one as the performance of most diesel 4wds is lacklustre. Like you I went petrol and for a 5.6L V8, the engine is quite economical on the open roads.
Excellent video. I appreciate you points at why you went gas. Just brought a gas JLUR, and diesel was in the budget and I plan to stay in the US. Temps and distance per tank was the advantages for the diesel for me. The downside was, first model year, weight, maintenance. A second tdd ank can be installed for cheaper than the diesel.
Added cost of diesel per gallon more than blows past the mpg advantage. Factor in maintenance and the diesel is more expensive upfront and per mile.
Nice! I'm very interested to watch the reliability and long-term mileage of the diesels
U r a LEGEND!
My wife and I drive all over the place in the states. There are a lot of small town gas stations where diesel is not available. There are many times when we would have been jammed up if we needed diesel.
You are right. Modern Diesels require low sulphur content (less than 15 ppm) and in affrica mos of the Diesel is high sulphur content (rangim from 50 in Mozambique up to 2000 in Egypt).
'Gas'? At first I thought you were talking about LPG, but then I figured petrol. 😅 Nice advice though.
In many countries "gas" is used as a shortened form of gasoline.
Excellent video! I have my sights on the new Jeep Gladiator and there is a Diesel option. I was torn between the two but I think I'll stick with the gas. I think the mileage and torque is impressive but what really concerns me are all the sensors, canisters, DEF fills, etc..that will come along with it. Seems like a lot of failure points. If I was only staying in Colorado I'd consider it more, but I have my sights on Europe and the Sahara. Thanks again!
Glad it was helpful!
Fascinating
Awesome info, getting a remanufactured 3.6l put into my 2013jk. Hopefully it’ll last longer than the last for overlanding 🤙
And that’s why I don’t have a Jeep lmao
John C to be fair this year and the 2012’s were known to have issues, out of 5 friends who own Jeep Wrangler I’m the only to have a pre 2014 and issues🤷♂️
I'm building a first gen 4runner rig, and and im happy I chose the 2uz, 4.7 v8 toyota engine. Over the 1uz as the 1uz needs premium. And good thing I chose gas lol
Right now gas and diesel are hard to find in Zim -- but, you can always buy diesel from a passing trucker.
Interesting information, so no new 2020 diesel for Adventures trips around the world ☹️
Not only did I learn I don't need a diesel but I was looking at a diesel fuso that has a newer motor. I do plan to stay in the u.s. with it tho.but if I made bigger plans it could be my weak link.
Something else to consider, in a lot of countries, especially in Europe where a lot of overlanders are from, you pay way more vehicle tax on a diesel car than on a gas car. In the case of a big defender 4 times as much, so over many years this is really gonna add up a lot.
Be careful with these new modern turbo gasoline engines..if you go gas go NA
I was literally coming on here to see if anyone was talking about engines from the last 5 years.
Diesel is generally cheaper, which is probably a major motivating factor.
Not always, sometimes diesel is more expensive because they're simply bought less, so there's less availability. Petrol is king in the middle East and Africa
In the u.s., diesel fuel and diesel vehicles are more expensive. So much so I think it would take a LOT of miles to start getting any financial benefits. And even oil changes are exorbitant compared to petrol oil changes.
@@aslkdfjhg in most developing countries Diesel is subsidized, since it's the main fuel used for transportation. I agree in the US gas is cheaper.
@@hughsmitham722 why is diesel priced so high compared to Gas, when engine cost is same, the 2.0 engine was developed by Fiat some time ago.
Diesel is much more expensive in USA.
♿We have a 2010 Toyota Hilux Diesel and was very happy with the performance and reliability in Southern and East Africa. ♿ Great video keep them coming Thank you.♿
I believe the Hilux is the non-emissions controlled version of the Tacoma. That's why it does so good in that part of the world.
@@77loquito77 Hilux and Tacoma are two very different pickup trucks. The main difference is frame, in Hilux it has boxed, Tacoma has open-C. Tacoma is considered a "cheaper" bro for Hilux, but Toyota proves that cheaper does not always mean worse :)
You make an excellent point regarding modern diesels. The emissions systems make them an absolute no go anywhere ultra low sulfur diesel is unavailable (unless of course you're willing to do an emissions delete which is completely illegal in many countries).
It depends where you are going to. For the regions you mentioned, petrol is a good choice. When you are in the dephts of Siberia, where there is only trucks and traktors, you often can find some old men sitting in the middle of the forrest next to some rusty diesel barrels - but petrol you will not find within some hundred square miles. Or if you're in Iran. There you can have diesel, but it is not for sale to tourists. You need to ask some lorry drivers to buy some for you. There (and in the neighbor countries) CNG is the perfect choice of fuel. I was there with my petrol car. Petrol had unbelievable less octane. Sometimes 70 or less. My 30yrs old engine could handle this, but motor management (with knock sensor) worked behind it's limits. A modern engine could have been killed. Because of this my car is fitted with a petrol/gas(LPG) combination. In total I have a range of 1.200-1.500km, depending on route profile. All over Europe, Asia, North and more and more South America you can fill up with LPG. And since I installed Venturi technique, there are no (electromagnetic) nozzles of any kind. No matter, how bad the LPG quality is, the engine always runs in healthy conditions. From now more than 25yrs of car traveling I prefer this combination of fuels. For the last 100.000km (some 60.000mls) I spend less than 4.000 USD on fuel. The average is ok, I guess. Sometimes it's great, when you fill up LPG for 0.15USD/Liter or Petrol for 0.25USD. Three yrs ago I had a tour with only 16.000km and spend less than 300USD on fuel. I prefer spending money on food, not on fuel ;)
Thanks for all the real-world info, that's extremely helpful!
Funnily enough I’ve known people who have had trouble getting petrol in outback Australia. Diesel really is king there.
In my 1965 Unimog 404 i went from a 82hp 6 cylinder 2.2 Liter petrol to a 80hp 5 cylinder 3 liter Diesel engine!
Much more reliable start with 1 push on the button. Way better fuel consumption. I did 1 Liter LPG on 2KM driving
I loved the content of this video. I’m very happy that I have a well maintained 200 tdi engine in my Land Rover Defender 130. I’m planning a trip through the Pan-American Highway. I’m looking for ways aroma Costa Rico and Panama.
You'll have to ship around, most people wind up shipping from Mexico to Colombia (Cartegena)
Wow, this was definitely a surprise! I feel like I did a ton of research and have recently bought a '95 80 series land cruiser with the 1HD-FT diesel (24 valve but still all mechanical). Plan is to ship from Canada to Europe and then spend a year through mostly north/east/Southern Africa. Your note about trucks staying on the main roads and the scooters being everywhere made me slap my forehead. That makes so much sense! Maybe I need to get long range tanks to fill up where I can and where it seems like the quality is better?????
With that engine you should be fine, but make certain you install a VERY fine filter in the diesel line, and a water separator.
If your range is over about 600 miles you should be fine.
Thats a damn fine combo you got there Peter hang onto it is my advice. Upgrade your filtration as Dan says and you will be the envy of many.
Toyota 4Runner 5VZFE 1997 V6 GAS for the win, one of the most reliable gas engine Toyota ever build. Thanks for the nice facts.
Why is there a gap in your mudguard? Also great video!
Agreed! Drove a Diesel Land Rover through Asia and North America. Gasoline (but also workshops working on gasoline cars) often was easier to find. Buying a new one, we would never go for a new Diesel as all this Adblue, DPF, and other stuff really doesn't make it a strong, easy maintainable and reliable engine anymore. So we ended up buying a new Land Cruiser with a gasoline engine with the same thoughts you were sharing! Great video!
Thanks for the info!
Excellent content! Please keep the videos coming.
I have a question and a potential video idea, sort of related to your point of gas engines being easier to work on in remote areas of the world: What would you recommend overlanders carry for their vehicles, in terms of wear items and potential breakages? I used to be an auto tech, and I've got a bad habit of stockpiling parts and tools in my vehicles just in case of breakdowns. I never want to be stranded, even in my home country, much less in a completely different country thousands of miles away from home.
I'll make that a future video for sure!
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I thought I was the only psycho carrying tons of bearings, seals, filters, clutchpads and tools with me.
You've made me question my presumption that I need to get a diesel. Here in AU, the purchase price difference between a petrol and a diesel is substantial, along with higher regular maintenance costs, the cost per kilometre of the diesel can easily exceed the fuel economy savings it offers. By my reckoning, the break even point is 100,000 km where a diesel starts to earn its keep. These estimates are very specific to my circumstances, but the point remains, like you said, think it through, do the sums, be realistic about your plans. Time to create a spreadsheet and do the calculations...
Again thank you - your advice and perspective are invaluable.
You're very welcome, I'm happy to hear it was helpful!
Great video. IFM planning my round the world- trip in a 1972 Land Rover Series 3 Carawagon (2.25l Petrol). It’s not the fastest, but hopefully will be reliable and easily fixed if things do go wrong...
You can do it, driving around the world is not a race!
Great engine, just drove across the breadth of Africa in mine. My advice to that vehicle is to fit electronic ignition, because most stuff out there is 1990's/2000's Japanese, so getting hold of a contact breaker set for a Lucas 25D4 distributor will be fun! Plus, the dust tends to eat up the points. Carawagon fitted Piranha Ignition systems as an option (now Newtronic) although I fitted a 123 Ignition distributor to mine, using more commonly available Bosch cap and rotor arm. Lumenition is another choice and has a proven reputation.
agree with S2S Overland: Land Rover Series 1/2/3 spares are not avaliable anymore in developing countries. This are old stories from 70/80/90. I did transafrica in S3 Diesel 10 years ago.
Nigeria sometimes have petrol shortages and that means huge lines at the petrol stations, not sure whether diesel was easier to get. Not sure about other places though.
Absolutely true mate. Modern Diesel engines are not suitable anymore to drive around the world (after Euro 3 Norm). Lots of people scrapped their beautiful Euro 6 Vans in South America or Central Asia because of the different diesel quality. The diesel Troopy (Land Cruiser HZJ 78 or 79) works still perfect, but is not anymore available in Europe (only second hand). Therefore people buy the gas version. Actually a pity because the diesel version has quite a huge range (with our Troopy we can drive around 1700 to 1800 km in long distance mode before we have to tank again, 220 liters). And yes, diesel is mostly cheaper than gas. We are happy with our diesel ...
For a trip only in the Americas I certainly would choose a gas vehicle. No doubt.
1000 mile fuel tank range is awesome. Is that with additional gas tanks?
@@MatthewLowryUSA The 220 litres mentioned is standard for that model. Most Australian specification, Land Cruiser and Prado have dual tanks from the factory. That's because we have such vast distances to travel and it can be 500km/300miles between service stations.
Hi. Which model is the troopy ypu have ? Because I was on the fence of whether to buy a troopy or a Mercedes sprinter but no longer. Troopy it is. But from what he mentioned the 4.5 v8 diesel clearly had trouble in South Africa and I am wondering which one do you drive ? Thanks
@@thebnicho 2001 Prado most shitest car I ever had, My 2015 Mitsubishi triton dual cab 300,000 on the clock and still going hard.
@@MatthewLowryUSA That is standard for this model (2 separate tanks, each 90 liters plus 2 sherry cans each 20 liters). You can also get a bigger 2nd tank. But I think 220 liters diesel is good enough
This is very interesting, especially considering that Jeep just released a new $6K "EcoDiesel" engine in their Wrangler lineup.
Best overland channel on CZcams! I have been trying to decide on an overland vehicle. I currently have a 98 Toyota Prado V6 but from what you are saying the Jeep Wrangler has better fuel economy
If you already have the Prado, staying with it will cost less money so you can get on adventures sooner.
@@TheRoadChoseMe I was thinking that but the problem is it has a low payload.
I’ve always wanted a diesel for better fuel mileage and better torque. But, modern gas engines are really comparable in the power aspects, and not terrible on fuel mileage. Diesel is the most refined fuel, so I would actually expect it to be less common, if not for price. Diesel used to be way cheaper than gas, but in America for the last few years that hasn’t been the case. You made a lot of excellent points that I had not really thought about when looking at motor selection or fuel type. I had wanted the newer turbo gas jeeps, but now I’m thinking it would be a bad idea if I wanted to do a trip like you did.
Diesel used to be cheaper here in Australia, but now its like 10c more per litre than unleaded
Do you have any suggestions for how to get round high sulphur content fir modern diesels?
Well Mate... You know what Assuming is!! Great video... My Jeep is set up for North American Overlanding... That's Awesome but i have the old 3.8L V6 engine... while its not as powerful as the 3.6L Pentastar engine it has always been rock solid performer for me. whether in Moab, Highway try to keep it under 70mph for better gas mileage, running (yes those damn 35" Tires but it works here.) but i'm running the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac that most people hate but they've been awesome for me... Maybe its my Aussie Frazer island roots and my Simpson, Strezlecki and Oodnadata desert exploration background has made me a better driver... if you treat your tyres well, they'll treat you better?? If you're ever blowing through the midwest, would love to catch up... Cheers WES
Mine is also the 3.8 V6, and it's been brilliant for those 54,000 miles around Africa and a whole lote more. She's got 170,000 miles on the clock now without a single major problem.
Jeep on!
I also prefer gas to diesel, including for big 4wd. (And I own a gas Land Cruiser in the most diesel country in the world.)
But I can tell you Gas LandCruiser are still extremely rare in Europe.
For the LandCruiser officially sold by Toyota :
The LandCruiser SW 200 was only sold with the 4.5 V8 diesel and is no more sold since a few years because it does not pass emissions.
The LandCruiser Prado 150 is only sold in diesel.
For the 70 series, for the time it was officially imported by Toyota (from 1984 to 2001) they only sold it in Diesel except for a very few units for rally races.
Since 2001 private importers have hacked the 1HZ diesel to get it to pass emissions, the only reason they stopped since 2 years is because they couldn't hack it enough to pass emission anymore. And it is the only reason they started imported the gas 70 series Cruiser with the 1GR. If they could they would still import the 1HZ.
Here in Europe I never heard someone saying you need diesel to travel in Africa (because you will no find gas) but here everyone wants diesel for economy and torque, particularly in big vehicle (but until recently even small vehicle were more sold in diesel than gas...) and so this is the only option you find. People think you are crazy if you buy a big gas vehicle even for day to day use so if you say you want to travel 20000km everyone think diesel.
The real thing that changed is that big gas engine (like the 4L V6 1GR in LandCruiser) have made a lot of progress in fuel consumption and I agree that the difference with diesel in not that more worth on an economic point.
But obviously back in the day F serie and 1FZ were gaz guzzler compared to a Diesel, particularly under load. Owning a F powered Cruiser it's a joy to drive but a pain to have a decent range in sand (like more than 300km which is ridiculous).
The few gas Land Cruiser we have in Europe are collectible pieces that are worth a lot more than their diesel equivalent in use market.
As for the issue your friends had it's really weird because the 4.5L V8 (1VD) is sold in LandCruiser SW 200 and 70 series in some African countries (and not only SA). But maybe the African spec don't get all the emission crap.
Fé lix Yes, there are a lot of V8 diesels around the world. Maybe for America it is different.
Looking at modern diesel trucks the engines are heavier too. So even though they tow more and gave more torque they have less payload and room for stuff and people on your rig.
Agree on your opinion on new commonrail diesel engines. No go. While being easier to repair, modern gas engines too are packed with scary blackboxes, controllers and sensors, and I hate the engine control flashing up, because camshaft sensor #3 went down the toilet in the middle of Nowherestan. That said, I stick with the non-turbo, non-dpf, high emission, precombustion chamber diesel engine of my last 28 y.o. G-Wagon tractor.