Honda String Trimmer Speed-Feed Upgrade and Oil Change
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- čas přidán 4. 04. 2020
- I talk about the Honda umk425 string trimmer and replace the standard head with a speed feed head from rotary. I show you how to load line into both the standard Honda head and the speed feed head. I also perform an oil change on the Honda string trimmer and show you how to easily start the machine.
Timestamps for fitting the speed feed head and servicing the Honda string trimmer:
0:46 - About the Honda UMK425U string trimmer.
2:12 - Speed feed head model number and details.
4:00 - How to use the standard Honda string trimmer head.
5:36 - Removing the standard Honda string trimmer head.
6:20 - Installing the speed feed head on the Honda string trimmer.
8:47 - Starting and using the Honda string trimmer with speed feed head.
9:40 - How to put line in a speed feed head.
11:24 - Changing oil on a Honda string trimmer.
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Timestamps for fitting the speed feed head and servicing the Honda string trimmer:
0:46 - About the Honda UMK425U string trimmer.
2:12 - Speed feed head model number and details.
4:00 - How to use the standard Honda string trimmer head.
5:36 - Removing the standard Honda string trimmer head.
6:20 - Installing the speed feed head on the Honda string trimmer.
8:47 - Starting and using the Honda string trimmer with speed feed head.
9:40 - How to put line in a speed feed head.
11:24 - Changing oil on a Honda string trimmer.
bent shaft trimmers the thread will be the other way. just an fyi to anyone that needs it.
honda also make their own version of the speedfeed head that doesnt need the spacer, w4 for the small one(speedfeed 375) and w5 for the bigger one(speedfeed 450) both are great too.
@@tlwlawncare thank you :)
Wow. This video saved my marriage. I've been struggling with the honda head it came with the last year and getting so angry when I struggle to refill it and my wife gets mad as I spent good money on it and want to replace it already. This video is a lifesaver, i'll try to get my hands on one of these replacement heads as this is the style i've always used. Thank you legend :)
I will have to agree with you 100% not about your marriage that’s your business but my wife and I are frustrated. We bought this Honda trimmer HHT 35 spent a lot of money on this trimmer because it’s Honda and I know it’s dependable and I know it’s worth the money, but it speed head and they sold me their brand and I don’t even know what it’s called but it’s dual feed but the feed doesn’t work. You have to manually pull the line out most times but what we’re frustrated with is when they upgraded to this Honda head they kept the speed feed head that went that was originally on it And two years ago, I didn’t know any different. I thought it was an upgrade, but it isn’t so mines coming off and likely going in the trash and as far as the marriage goes, I’ve been married for 42 years and my wife is frustrated about this head problem also😍
I have replaced the original head about 4 times and was looking for a better alternative. Found this video and very grateful. I have purchased this new speed-feed and it is going well so far.
Hey mate, you keep saying you are not the expert but your video gives me the exact instructions I need and they are great.
Looking at the comments here, I also found that there is not any “hates” posted as you would normally see in other places these days.
Well done!
Thank you for the kind words and very glad to hear it helped :)
Great video Buddy. Very informative and easy to understand. Keep up the great work. I'm off to go buy a speed feed head. Cheers
Thank you brother for this video . I too have the same honda trimmer and you have shown me how to ease my troubles by changing to the speed feed head. Thank you.
Thanks so much for doing this video! I had zero idea of how to get the original feed head off (I clearly am not mechanically minded) and you saved me from an embarrassing visit back to the Honda shop to ask them to do it!!
Cheers mate. 👍
No worries Simon :) glad I could help!
Just ran across your video, never knew this option was available. As it happened, after being frightened off by internet pricing on the head, I went to our local Honda dealer and picked up a Honda version for $AU50 Very easy fit and done in 5 minutes (after learning from your video). Thank you, this will save an old mans sanity.
Thanks your advice to flip the spacer solved my wobbly head installation!
Thanks mate, you helped me out and your presentation was better than any done by a "expert" as the common words that you and I both use are understood by the good common man. Too much technical jargon would have lost me so please accept my appreciation and genuine thanks for your time and effort.
Thank you so much :)
All the best.
Dan
Great video for us keen amateurs, thanks. for the clarity.
Gosh, thank goodness I came across this video! Thank you, PP...nicely presented tutorial.
Fantastic video mate! You've convinced me to look into a speed-feed head for my UMS425. Also reminded me I'm about due to change the oil. Cheers
Thanks! I’ll never go back, you’ll love it :)
Mate cheers for that, will be definitely upgrading my Honda aswell after seeing this! 😉👍
Thanks champ, just bought the Honda one for my bent shaft, going to try this arvo.
Cheers for the info
Thanks just bought the same trimmer on Friday and was a little surprised with the “old style” winding the head. My current wipper snipper has a speed feed head….learned a lot by watching as well as the comments on the Honda speed feed head.
Hi Johan. Glad it helped :)
They are a great machine.
Dan
need to change my line and i had no idea how until this vid, very informative and helpful. thank you
Glad it helped :)
I really appreciate this video. From the instructions I could not figure this out. Thank you!
Very glad it helped :)
Brilliant, thank you. I used the same speed feed head, and brand of trim line. But I hit the steel piece of a verandah stirrup with the trim line, and part of the plastic housing broke off. So off to my mower place to buy another trimmer head. 😁
Awesome mate, worked a treat
Super helpful video. Thank you.
Thank you Practical Primate, some things are left out of the Honda manual for these machines and you have answered a question I had. Cheers Bill
Glad I could help Bill :)
All the best.
Dan
Thanks a bunch for this video, super helpful!
No problem, glad it helped :)
Legend Thanks mate I'm going get a speed feed now 👍
Glad it helped 👍
Thank you for the good review Sir. I am picking up a GX35 one of these for a new house my wife built me in the remote Philippines countryside. Mine comes with 2 blades, but I will buy a string head here in USA and take with me before I go. You saved me a lot of time!
Super clear and no BS.......Top Notch man
Thanks Luke :)
Legend, really helpful, thanks mate
Good review bloke!
Thanks for the info👍👍👍
Thanks mate. I'm in the market for a new whipper-snipper, and the Honda is on top of my list. I've had it with Ryobi. They don't last long anymore, and it seems their tools are all built as disposable gear these days - ie. no parts. The last Ryobi whipper-snipper I had only lasted 6 years (the one previous to that lasted 16 years). The Honda came well recommended, apart for the critism of its bump head. But this aftermarket speed feed bump head looks to solve all that negative comments about the original Honda bump head. Thanks again. 👍
Really simple and very informative video. Would do justice to a company produced article. Excellento
Thank you for the kind words Alan :)
I love my Honda weed trimmer I have the same one in your video I bought my Honda weed trimmer 3 years ago I love it
They sure are great :)
Mine is running after 4 years like a monster
Thanks mate u helped me heaps
Thanks for your great advice l 👍
Thank you for good video.
Thanks for the video mate, very helpful and yes,
us Aussies know them as whipper snippers.
I'm just about to buy a Honda bent shaft model
and want to replace the head to a speed feed immediately.
Love the Australian made content.😉👍
No worries mate and good luck with the new purchase. Just remember to get the bent shaft model (I think I said that in the vid).
Great info thanks the speed feeder is superior to the standard one I love my one . Onto my second speed feeder as I wore the first one out !
Thanks alot for the video. I was just about to return the head i just bought back to the shop. I couldn't figure out how it goes in and i thought it wasn't the right one.
Very glad I could help :) hope it works well for you Martin.
Hoping this helps on your already easy starting but maybe not. That yellow square holds the throttle in for one pull starting on my Honda HMK431 so it starts first pull every time.
1. Pump squeeze bulb till full (not sure you have one on your carb).
2. Depress throttle and the yellow square at the same time till it locks the throttle slight depressed.
3. Choke the carb.
4. Pull to start on first pull.
5. Turn choke off.
6. Depress throttle to release yellow square (throttle lock).
Thanks I finally got the head off I should of watched before, I've been mucking around too long.
Glad it helped :)
Cheers Mate! I,ve got the same Whipper snipper and the heads buggered.
Nice one. Have the exact same Honda - upgrading to the same head. Tired of the stock one constantly running out of line
Great post . Don't forget to add some grease to the gear head too !
Thanks! And definitely :)
Legend 👏
There is notches in the spool to put the line in to make it easier to put the spool back in.
Great video thanks. Do you find the string melts together at all? With my Honda tap head, the string frequently seems to wedge or melt itself together preventing feed, which is why I thought about changing to speed feed.
I have the Honda bush cutter 425U myself. I love the speed Loading head, you've shown here. I have tried your link and even searched via Google, and I can't seem to find them in the UK. Any reccomendations for a good alternatative please. Great video BTW.
Dude ! - excellent video , very helpful thank you 😊 question : is this still a bump feed head ? ( tap on ground ? )
Thanks! Yeah the entire bottom is the button so still tap to let line out :)
Thanks, my whipper snipper has 2 arrows on it one left hand and one right hand but no clue as which way to wind it. Sounds like I need a new head.
Awesome
not sure but wear i got mine there was a smaller one but i got the bigger one so might be the difference. and thanks for the info lol im looking forward to running out of line so i can try it...:)
Grea video. I have cord stuck in the head. How do I get it out please? It is a speed feed head.
What’s your opinion on a straight shaft ? Would you prefer it over a bent shaft ?
Hey mate, where abouts did you get that oil pan?
Can only find ones online that have a catch pan that’s half the size
Also, have you by any chance done a video on chainsaw maintenance? My Stihl appears to leak a lot of oil, and I mean a lot, and is hard to start.
Thats exactly what i need... i have the Honda UMK 450 UEET which is the 50cc version GX50 and the stock head is exactly like yours,very basic and a husle to restring. The more expensive version (XEET) has an automatic head similar to this upgrade but wasnt able to find it as a part to upgrade.They really need to put better heads these are expensive machines (mine costs 700+ euro) good to know we can fit aftermarket stuff.
That thing is a beast! Interested to hear how it performs for you and hope the head option works out.
I use the gx35 version with the bull horn handles and a blade for cutting down vetiver/rough stuff.
@@PracticalPrimate Its been very reliable...it sits for 6 months and starts on the first pull (i also have Husqvarna 2 stroke equipment and its finicky) Used the Oregon mulching blade on really rough stuff,everything turned to dust...Really the only inconvinience is the head,i found the part number of the genuine Honda speed head of the higher model its 72560-VR4-E21 but no availability where i am.
Bloody Ripper M8! Thanks
No worries :) glad it helped!
Great video. How does it feed out the line? Just the usual bump on the ground action?
Hi Paul. Yeah exactly, the entire bottom of the head is the ‘button’. Just bump and it lets line out.
Turn the rear plate instead of the head. It'll prevent the line wrapping around your hand. Can get just the cap replacement too if you look around for when they wear out. Cheaper than replacing the whole head all the time.
You can also add some grease in the gear case, just unscrew the bolt on the side, put some grease, and screw it back !
Sure can, thanks for adding that :) if anyone wants to do that they sell screw in tubes that make it easy but for a those that typically have grease in grease guns for larger machinery I just use a big syringe.
Great video mate 👍👍, where did you purchase the speed feed head from ??
Just at my local dealer. I suggest that because you can talk to the staff and double check it’s the right version for your machine. You can buy them online easy enough though.
Hi, looks great. I have just bought a UMS425U with bent rod. The standard feed is not great. Noticed you have a straight rod. Will this fit on a bent rod. ??
Hi Sven
The bent rod one is different so don’t get this particular model. If I get some time later I’ll find a link for you (if you go to buy one double check is suits the bent shaft/ums models.
Nice, hows the head going 3 years on?
Ive got the same whipper and my honda head is a pain, ive already 3D printed a replacement bump cap and affixed it to rhe bottom but ive always had issues with it feeding. Looking for a reolacement, been looking at the W5 as well
Hi, yeah still going strong! Very happy with it. I haven’t tried the one Honda sell (they sell an upgraded speed feed style head too) but that is a apparently a great option as well.
Thanks for the video. Will this work with the Bent Shaft version?
Glad it helped. Oil change is the same and you can definitely get a speed feed head but the model number is different for the bent shaft/UMS version. I had a google and they are easy enough to find so purchase from your retailer of choice :)
@@PracticalPrimate Thanks for the reply. Will look for it :)
Great video where did you get that from the bottle oil pan that's a good idea to have one on your side how often do you changing the oil Cheers ...!!!!
The local auto store here had them and oil change depends on use but the schedule is in the manual :) Depends on the model.
Thanks for this video could you tell me where you brought the fast loading trimmer from. Thankyou
Honda shops sell them $75 aus
Hey mate just wondering how you let more cable out with the new head that you put pn
Hi Lachlan. It’s still a bump feed so just bump it on the ground. Hope that helps!
Would be a good replacement to my crappy Ryobi one! Tightens too hard after a session
Where did you get the spacer from??
I had the same issue that the adaptors supplied didn't work but when I used an oil seal as a spacer everything worked good.I need to get the correct spacer tho...any clues?
thanks
Hi Wayne, sorry missed your comment! Mine came with the spacers though your solution sounds usable. You can get a lot of these things from your local mower/small engine dealer so that would be my next step if I were you. Hope that helps :)
Does this engine need to use fuel with oil mix ?
The feed module that comes with the Honda trimmers has issues. For one the bump isn't reliable, bump, bump, bump and 2" of line comes out or usually none at all. Then trying to load the feed module with weed whacker line is a "go to the instruction manual" and spend 15 minutes reading. When I tried the Shindawa speed feed head the line feed was fantastic and the line that came with my speed feed lasted a long time. I kept stopping to see if I needed to feed any more line it just kept cutting. Highly recommend the Shindawa speed feed to replace the original feed module from Honda.
How do you extend the line when it gets chewed up? Do you bump it on the ground like the original Honda head?
Hi Chris, yes that’s right. It’s actually a bit easier with the speed feed because the entire bottom is the button. It will wear out though (not metal like the Honda) but you can get a replacement face if ever needed.
anyone know can 4mm cord in one of theses
Thanks a lot, have the same Honda Whipper Snipper (I looooove it!) and one of those speed feed heads - don't know the brand, though. I've run into a problem - there is still some string inside the head and I can't get it out. Would you mind making a video about that problem? That would be great!
I might do that for sure next time it happens thanks for the idea. You have to pull the head apart when/if that happens. Mine has two little tabs that you push down to open it (it requires some force). Most are similar, I hope that helps!
@@PracticalPrimate Thank you, will try!
@@PracticalPrimate Thanks, it worked! With a little help of a screw driver ;-)
Nice! Very happy to hear you got it sorted :)
@@PracticalPrimate I'm a pro now...LOL. Any recommendation on what string/line to buy?
Great video, but does the speed feed head have a bump feed feature like the original head?
Hi Anthony. Yes it is still a bump feed head, the entire bottom is the ‘button’. The bottoms can be replaced if they wear out (you don’t need a whole new head). Hope that helps :)
@@PracticalPrimate Thanks for the quick response. I was using Honda UMS425U today on my farm. After 3 hours use the original head melted off the handle. Think I will check out the heads you used
Whoa that is some hard use! Give them a go for sure :) the commercial guys/gals use them so they are tough.
Just curious-- 2 years in, do you still love this trimmer head? Any other comments?
Hi Vic
I still do yes :)
I occasionally lose the line inside the head and have to pop it apart to get the old line out, but it’s easy and well worth the effort as it works perfectly the rest of the time. When it does that it is my fault anyway, it’s because I went/pushed to hard into something rather than letting the tool do the job.
Hope that helps!
Dan
😮 ? I thought the difference between a snipper and brushcutter was the snipper uses a nylon line while the brush can use both the line and a blade to cut through vegetation. Brushes are standard with the straight shaft that can support a blade while snippers have a bent shaft suitable only for line heads ....that what me old man used tell me anyway LOL!
Thanks much for your video.
How does the new head feed the string? It doesn’t look like a “bumper” head???
Thanks again.
Hi Rob
They are still bump feed, the entire bottom is the button, hope that makes sense. They feed fine, it is the loading that makes the difference though.
Practical Primate
Thank you.
No problem!
Hi, does this fit UMS425? thanks
You need a different model for the bent shaft but it is available :)
Great Video thanks , only problem is my speed feeder came with some cord but the ends were just inside .. cannot get the line to come out and cannot pull it apart. . I used GA speed feed 450 Head BRN6923
Hi Mick. Thanks! There should be two little tabs on the head that you can depress and pull the head apart. Once apart remove the line, put it back together and then reload. You will see what I mean when you pop it apart (if it’s the same as the ones I use). The tabs can be tough to depress the first time, you might need to use a screwdriver to force them down.
Edit: just checked the number and yep works the same so do the above to fix :)
@@PracticalPrimate thanks , it looks like it has tabs but it would not move . Will call the mower shop in the Morning and suss it out .. Thanks Again ( oil change tip 👍👍)
Ended up using a pair of screwdrivers , odd setup but popped apart restrung it and works mint 👍👍
@@mickfromaustralia1762 good stuff Mick.👍
I was hoping to see the bump feed working on both heads.
Hi Jim, do you mean on the original head? It feeds fine but is a pain to load and has a tendency to heat weld the string requiring unloading and reloading, a major pain.
I did show the speed feed working at the end (as well as my camera skills at the time allowed haha).
I think they have since changed the spindle thread on this model as it won’t now fit the speed head your using .. even tried using the supplied bushes
Hi Peter, oh no if that’s the case I will pin this comment for others. Just checking, you aren’t by chance using a bent shaft trimmer? Some others haven’t realised those are different and have run into problems.
Dan
Cuzzo where do you buy that oil change bucket i want one bad
They sell them at supercheap auto (in Australia). They look slightly different now but same concept.
@@PracticalPrimate okay sweet I was hoping to get a clear one like you but they’re all solid black
You could have bought a Genuine Honda Speed Feed (W4 or W5) for $50 which is the same price as the "Rotary" brand you used . The Honda Speed Feed head is better quality because as it has steel reinforcement on the bump skid face to prevent premature wearing out on the bottom face when you bump it on the ground to feed more line. The Honda speed feed fits pefect with no need for adaptors etc and it also comes in 2 different sizes meduim size = W4 and large size = W5
Smart Box thanks :)
Yes I agree the Honda would have been the go though I did pay less for this one. I didn’t even know of the Honda head at the time, my local suppliers did not stock them (should have travelled a little further to the actual Honda dealer). If I ever wear this one out that will be the model I’ll purchase for sure!
Thanks again!
Where do you buy them from ? will it fit a honda umk 435E thanks
I bought a replacement head on the internet, only $12, alexnld.com, and it was broken in less than a day ! Happily enough all I needed was the bumper's spring that I had lost, so I'm now still using the original head which is more than 19 years old with the new spring...
That speed-feed head might also be interesting to prevent parts loss in the grass !
I've got the W5 on my UMK435U.
It is a far superior head to any other speed feed in my opinion.
Thanks for the heads up on the genuine Honda product. I bought the W4 yesterday and was having buyers remorse this morning as the salesman was leaning towards the brand in this video for the sole reason that the replacement face was $4 less… he sensed my confusion and offered the old technology of the bump style head; however I told him I’ll give the new style a go as long it’s genuine Honda that’s made in Japan. Thus the W4 purchase, great video, have the confidence to tackle the coming summer (Gold Coast)
Drag on pal
Are these bumpfeed?
Yep!
@@PracticalPrimate thank you so much mate I go order one on eBay
Best speed feed is ryobis and oregon gator
Are the Ryobi good are they? I generally stay away from anything made by Ryobi. Hadn’t heard of the Oregon product be they look great. The only problem might be it looks like you buy pre-loaded cartridges? That must get pretty expensive! Will have a proper look at them.
60mil of oil about 3 table spoons i think
Don't use the chinease copy spring.. they are mild steel not spring steel and let the line fly out every 2 seconds...
Flies are annoying. I can smell dog poop all over the place because of the amount of flies ? Thats why I dont like dogs. I prefer Trimmers 😂
What?
For the last 18 months I've not let the lawn crew edge or use a weed eater in my back yard. czcams.com/users/postUgkx_rBCFuDW1zD6blTGhLkvAkxU657uR_lG I didn't like the fact that they just kept cutting the edge of the lawn further and further from the rock lining the flower beds and leaving bare ground. And the grass was trimmed or scalped several feet around trees, etc. It was a constant battle with them so I told them to just mow and no trimming. I have Zoysia grass so it grows pretty slow. Obviously after a while it could use some trimming. I'm in my 80's so I can't do much of it myself.Finally I decided that if I could find a lightweight battery powered trimmer I might be able to do some light trimming. I decided to buy the LST201 20V trimmer. And it works great for my needs. I have back yard with about 150' of flower beds and several trees to be trimmed. I can lightly trim the whole yard with a single charge! The grass I trimmed was only a few inches high but the trimmer was more powerful than I expected.