A kickflip that flips up into the feet and gets caught at the apex of a jump is so tasteful. If your kickflip doesnt do that you dont have them down well enough, this is why i have kickflip dysmorphia
@@Ok-qg7pj czcams.com/video/kiV-MWla9QU/video.html Louie doing a varial flip. Looks better of a trick than the varial heel, especially with the style of his.
S fsfeeb fscrook bsmith bstail fsblunt bsnoblunt A bsfeeb bscrook bs5050 bs50 fs50 B fs5050 bsnoslide fsnoslide fsnose fsnoblunt C fstail fsmith bsnose bsovrcrook D bsblunt any willy variation Lmk if I missed any or if you would change something and why bc im honestly not 100% on my own list unless its in the S tier
Pop Shuv It Skill Cap >> Tre Flip Skill Cap and that's just fax. Anyone can huck a tre flip with the might of zeus and land it but to control a pop shuv it down a gap or set of stairs is just on a different level of impressive. Tre flips having "all flash and no substance" is a great way to put it. That being said, I love putting down a good tre bomb LOL
@@devout9396 I think its harder to pop shuv a stair set than to Tre a stair set. Tre flips have a lower potential to over rotate or under rotate where as pop shuv its have a lot of potential for error. Pop shuv its require more control to do them well - especially off of something. That's just my opinion though cat everyone is different :)
skill ceiling of a tre flip on flat is huge though. It takes a ton of skill to make a tre look nice on flat, and pros make it look incredible. It got played out for a reason. As a flat trick, it's S-tier imo. But less cool in other scenarios like you mention, so I can see arguing it a bit lower.
mark suciu made me a believer in varial heels ever since his cross continental part. doing that down the love gap is crazy but also the one he did at sf library in that line was so good too
I feel that, I think some peoples perception of tricks are based off of how difficult it is to do consistently, or how much effort it takes. Tre flips are one where the rotation is just cool looking, but people hate when they're done in a 'steezy' style vs a high pop style
Varials may be eaiser to learn than tres at first but after you master the scoop of a tre I think they become much eaiser to do than varials as they're almost all back foot related. The hard part about learning tres is getting the power and scoop muscle memory down but once you learn them you can never really unlearn them, but with varials you gotta keep doing them or they're easy to lose. I also think tres are eaiser to do down stuff than a varial.
I agree pop shuvs are super under-rated. A highly popped, correctly caught with the front foot pop shuv looks really good. Problem is a lot of people learn to do them terribly then move on to other tricks and never clean them up. Or they'll do the quick little no pop shuv, which can be cool on it's own with enough speed, and call it a popped one. They're also great transition tricks when doing grind combos, or when you need something a little extra in or out of a grind and a flip would look awkward. Plus they're fun as fuck when caught really high. Oh and they serve a great purpose that most basic flip tricks can't do, they're a cool way to get your board facing the right way again after a varial trick, or the opposite when you're going to nollie something.
when i started skating again during the pandemic, just went to the basics and getting really good in every stance. would rather spin or shuv it in and out of things over flipping the board.
i love hardflips simply bc it looks like kinda magical like my brain is like what when i see a hard flip and it’s crazy bc when i started they looked wired
I feel like you’re ranking the type of skater that you commonly see doing each one of these tricks more than you’re ranking the actual tricks themselves.
His regular heels are epic. A true style of his own w those. The way he throws his leg forward and kicks like a fucking ninja, his hellflips are epic as FUCK dude.
i would've liked to see some more tricks like bs heelflips/fs heelflips and especially bigspin which is one of my favorite trick when done well out of a gap
I always thought it was weird that a bs flip was much eaiser for me to learn than fs flips while the bs ollie took me, and others I know, longer to learn than fs ollies did when I first started skating.
Love your videos in the mornings. I'm digging in your deep bag of videos to continue to watch. Keep rocking your videos. Oh, and your last 2 videos (Nov 10th 2022) are bang on!!!
pop shuv off anything bigger than like an 8 is hard, also pop shuv into grinds is harder, i have pop shuv into smith and 5050 on rails and ledges, usually a pop shuv smith gets attention even from the pros
I think varial heels are a lot cooler than inward heel flip, I see a lot of bad inward heels, they are hard af though. Also 3 shuvs I think are slept on
Jason Lee, the OG pioneer of 360 flips, did them sparingly. If you watch his two big video parts from “Video Days” and “A Visual Sound” he does very few 360 flips (four at the most). And it was still in its relative infancy as a trick. Less is more with that one.
Christian Flores has a dope varial heel they can be done well on flat too but very rarely. My fav varial kick is young sheckler's in almost round 3 cos it was the first and probably only time I saw it done well down a gap.
As someone who’s learned kickflips recently after only doing heelflips you can just throw out kickflips like an Ollie heel flips are more of for doing down things trick
I always have this debate in my head about bs flips and fs flips. Like a prime Andrew Reynolds quick flick catch at 90 like 5 feet in the air, guide it down an 18 set. It’s fucking insane. But then again all the insane fucking bs flips that Bastien has done through the years… mind blowing.
I love both but if I had to pick one I would definitely pick FS flip tbh I was tripping when this guy said BS flip is easier like FS flip is like the 3rd flip trick most people learn
Reynolds has had the best FS flips forever dude. Well, I like the Muska/Kareem Campbell FS flip where they do it with a hardflip, like Kareem doing it over a picnic table I used to have the world industries picture out of a transworld of him doing one. Them shits were so smooth especially w Kareem. Muskas were nice but not as silky smooth as a Kareem one.
Gifted Hatter. On this subject- come to think of it -there is a slight difference between seeing a trick being done and liking or disliking it and whether or not I like doing a trick. Maybe that difference doesn’t exist for some people.
S tier: impossible, fs flip, inward heel, heelflip A tier: pop shove, kickflip, bs flip, vheel B tier: vflip, laserflip, C tier: hardflipk D tier: late shuv
Man in fedora claims v flips are cooler than tre flips
What's way scarier v flipping down something or tre flipping? But his front shuv opinion is fucked up. I always love a good front shuv xD
@@sh666nks I agree but v flips are way more underwhelming than a treflip is
personally, i like v flips more just bc tre flips are over done
NO WAY "the ceiling for coolness" of a v flip is higher than a tre
kader vflip enters the room*
i cannot stop watching this dude
Agree his voice isn’t annoying like most people
A good kickflip with a high pop, nice flick, and proper catch is hard to master and indicates high skate iq
True: no one masters the basics because they believe they're the basics
A kickflip that flips up into the feet and gets caught at the apex of a jump is so tasteful.
If your kickflip doesnt do that you dont have them down well enough, this is why i have kickflip dysmorphia
Varial Heel is so underated
Wayyy better than variel flip
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Louie doing a varial heel, very nice.
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Louie doing a varial flip. Looks better of a trick than the varial heel, especially with the style of his.
@@FirstNameLastName2k I see what you mean and in those 2 clips varial kickflip really comes out on top
the elite way to do v flips is flicking them only by ur front foot so it kinda looks like forward flip
Front shuvs are so sick wth down sets they look so sick
Fr kevin Bradley has an insane front shuv
front shuv grinds are sick too. can never go wrong with a front shuv bs nose grind. nollie and fakie front shuvs are hella underrated too
@@jakelyon8960 fs shove bs nosegrind back 180 out
@@jakelyon8960 big agree, just look at hjalte halberg og ville wester. fs shuv bs nosegrind masters.
a grind tier list would be cool
that would be sick
S fsfeeb fscrook bsmith bstail fsblunt bsnoblunt
A bsfeeb bscrook bs5050 bs50 fs50
B fs5050 bsnoslide fsnoslide fsnose fsnoblunt
C fstail fsmith bsnose bsovrcrook
D bsblunt any willy variation
Lmk if I missed any or if you would change something and why bc im honestly not 100% on my own list unless its in the S tier
Slappies no matter what kind: S tier
Everything else: gay tier
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol gay tier 🤣
@@i-never-look-at-replies-lol slappy noseslides 🤢 unless its done on a high ledge
Pop Shuv It Skill Cap >> Tre Flip Skill Cap and that's just fax. Anyone can huck a tre flip with the might of zeus and land it but to control a pop shuv it down a gap or set of stairs is just on a different level of impressive. Tre flips having "all flash and no substance" is a great way to put it. That being said, I love putting down a good tre bomb LOL
You think it’s easier to pop shuv a stair set than to tre a stair set... I want some of what you’re smoking
Joa said it correctly “I t’s cooler to see a pop shuv down a set of stairs” but it’s definitely not harder than a tre flip down a set
@@devout9396 I think its harder to pop shuv a stair set than to Tre a stair set. Tre flips have a lower potential to over rotate or under rotate where as pop shuv its have a lot of potential for error. Pop shuv its require more control to do them well - especially off of something. That's just my opinion though cat everyone is different :)
@@plantsfb708 I think that’s just because people practice tre flips way more than pop shuvs though
skill ceiling of a tre flip on flat is huge though. It takes a ton of skill to make a tre look nice on flat, and pros make it look incredible. It got played out for a reason. As a flat trick, it's S-tier imo. But less cool in other scenarios like you mention, so I can see arguing it a bit lower.
mark suciu made me a believer in varial heels ever since his cross continental part. doing that down the love gap is crazy but also the one he did at sf library in that line was so good too
He did a flatground v heel as b-roll in verso, and it's one of my favorite parts of it for some reason
or robert neals switch v heel in godspeed
Reynolds varial heel at Hollywood 16.
That was a BATTLE bro.
Epic shit
Love seeing impossibles over stuff. Dylan Rieder’s impossible over the table was so satisfying to see for me
Rodney Mullen made me love varial heels, the way he does them in and out of slides and mannys will always be incredible to me
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Ben degros
who else
the fact that a tre flip looks so cool and you dont really have to try that hard is what makes it so great imo.
I feel that, I think some peoples perception of tricks are based off of how difficult it is to do consistently, or how much effort it takes. Tre flips are one where the rotation is just cool looking, but people hate when they're done in a 'steezy' style vs a high pop style
Reynolds has a dope varial heel. I enjoyed the list. Even if I don’t agree with all of them, I really like your take and commentary.
just got something to eat perfect timing
Front pop shuv is god tier wtf
I’ve noticed Back shuv and front shuv is like being a heelflip vs kflip person. You gotta be a front shuv person to understand them
Justin Henry’s varial heel in Grand Prairie made me a believer. I never liked that trick before.
Your gasp to Arron doing the kickflip after the manual is the funniest shit I've witnessed in a minute lmao. Love your channel
Chima and Ishod make Varial Heelflips dope
Front side flips should be the symbol that represents skateboarding, like how Jerry West is the symbol for the NBA
Varials may be eaiser to learn than tres at first but after you master the scoop of a tre I think they become much eaiser to do than varials as they're almost all back foot related. The hard part about learning tres is getting the power and scoop muscle memory down but once you learn them you can never really unlearn them, but with varials you gotta keep doing them or they're easy to lose. I also think tres are eaiser to do down stuff than a varial.
Fs pop shoves are sick when they go up stairs with it
I agree pop shuvs are super under-rated. A highly popped, correctly caught with the front foot pop shuv looks really good. Problem is a lot of people learn to do them terribly then move on to other tricks and never clean them up. Or they'll do the quick little no pop shuv, which can be cool on it's own with enough speed, and call it a popped one. They're also great transition tricks when doing grind combos, or when you need something a little extra in or out of a grind and a flip would look awkward. Plus they're fun as fuck when caught really high. Oh and they serve a great purpose that most basic flip tricks can't do, they're a cool way to get your board facing the right way again after a varial trick, or the opposite when you're going to nollie something.
Varial heels are slept on, has to be the right person doing them but well executed I think they’re hella tasteful
when i started skating again during the pandemic, just went to the basics and getting really good in every stance. would rather spin or shuv it in and out of things over flipping the board.
Varial Heelflips are my favorite 🥴
For me, bs flip is S or A tier. Love how it looks, love how it feels.
Front shuv should be at least B. I love front shoving gaps and stairs and even stomping them flat ground
i love hardflips simply bc it looks like kinda magical like my brain is like what when i see a hard flip and it’s crazy bc when i started they looked wired
dylan rieder impossible is s+ tier
watched till the inward heelflip, because I landed a few STINKY ones today. Love these tier lists, And Love the Hat m'lord
I think heelflips are cooler than kickflips depending on who does them
Neen Williams heel flips look bigger and cooler than Luans.
Love that u think pop shuv cooler than trey makes me feel better about how many shuvs I do
tre flips are fucking iconic bro they only belong in one spot
I feel like you’re ranking the type of skater that you commonly see doing each one of these tricks more than you’re ranking the actual tricks themselves.
Neen Williams inspired me to learn v heels. He is an example of a great v heel and he is a heelflip ninja
His regular heels are epic.
A true style of his own w those.
The way he throws his leg forward and kicks like a fucking ninja, his hellflips are epic as FUCK dude.
i would've liked to see some more tricks like bs heelflips/fs heelflips and especially bigspin which is one of my favorite trick when done well out of a gap
Like regular big heels are sok fuckin rare! And they are sick imo
Ettiene Gagne specifically reminds me of the guy your talking about with the pop shuvs and kinda staying away from flip tricks a ton
I always thought it was weird that a bs flip was much eaiser for me to learn than fs flips while the bs ollie took me, and others I know, longer to learn than fs ollies did when I first started skating.
i think its cus the flick for a fs flip is actually different from a reg kf flick.
for bs flips you can flick em like your regular kf
^ Exactly
Love your videos in the mornings. I'm digging in your deep bag of videos to continue to watch. Keep rocking your videos. Oh, and your last 2 videos (Nov 10th 2022) are bang on!!!
It’s good to see Greg Lutzka still kicking it in the scene!
pop shuv off anything bigger than like an 8 is hard, also pop shuv into grinds is harder, i have pop shuv into smith and 5050 on rails and ledges, usually a pop shuv smith gets attention even from the pros
I think varial heels are a lot cooler than inward heel flip, I see a lot of bad inward heels, they are hard af though. Also 3 shuvs I think are slept on
idk maan thats a tuff one
My heart shattered when he ranked inwardheelflip above hardflip. I have never seen a good inwardheelflip
Varial Flips definitely the underdog trick but I love seeing a Varial flip sprinkled in a part
your dog's collar tags clinking together is driving me nuts! lol
bobby dekeyzer has nice varial heel flips
fav skater, fav trick. I’m glad I came to the comments
that’s true!
I love how real this dude is
That hat with the hair is surprisingly dope
Need to take other stances into account. I think everyone can agree a sw heel is cooler than a regular heelflip
Neen Williams got the nicest front shuvs
Switch front shuvs can be very dope looking but are actually way easier to do than regular front shuvs
So happy to see new content I really love what you're doing bro please don't stop making vids
jamie tancowny had one of the best heelflip. it’s up there with neen
I feel like hyun kummer probably has the best lasers
everything he does is the best of that certain trick
damn i feel attacked on regular hardflip haha
Bryan Herman Hardflips are super dope
Late shuv part had me laughing so hard 😂
The Casper anti sigma shuv revert is god teir swag.
Thank you so much for appreciating the pop shuv. It deserves the love.
Coming from the hat tier list vid and here u are with a fedora. 😂 good times
I feel like GH was talking about me and my heels. I was a fricken HF wizard about 20 years ago.
Jason Lee, the OG pioneer of 360 flips, did them sparingly. If you watch his two big video parts from “Video Days” and “A Visual Sound” he does very few 360 flips (four at the most). And it was still in its relative infancy as a trick. Less is more with that one.
Jeremy Klein did two in Rubbish Heap in 1989. Also I'm pretty sure Frankie Hill had one in Ban This or Propaganda (89 and 90)
Flip Trick Tier List: Pop Shuv it LMFAO
Christian Flores has a dope varial heel they can be done well on flat too but very rarely. My fav varial kick is young sheckler's in almost round 3 cos it was the first and probably only time I saw it done well down a gap.
You got my attention with your opinion on pop shovits I love them. Especially doing them big down stuff is a great feeling
varial kick is the most slept on trick in skateboarding
POP SHUVIT FOR LIFE !!!!
taking over for Grosso here, keep hatin'!!
Was waiting on the double Kickflip 😂
Intentional hat irony. Love it 🥰
As someone who’s learned kickflips recently after only doing heelflips you can just throw out kickflips like an Ollie heel flips are more of for doing down things trick
Jonny Giger does my favorite varial heelflip by far.
Switch and nollie heels are goated
im glad my impossibles are vertical
I always have this debate in my head about bs flips and fs flips. Like a prime Andrew Reynolds quick flick catch at 90 like 5 feet in the air, guide it down an 18 set. It’s fucking insane. But then again all the insane fucking bs flips that Bastien has done through the years… mind blowing.
I love both but if I had to pick one I would definitely pick FS flip tbh I was tripping when this guy said BS flip is easier like FS flip is like the 3rd flip trick most people learn
Reynolds has had the best FS flips forever dude.
Well, I like the Muska/Kareem Campbell FS flip where they do it with a hardflip, like Kareem doing it over a picnic table I used to have the world industries picture out of a transworld of him doing one.
Them shits were so smooth especially w Kareem.
Muskas were nice but not as silky smooth as a Kareem one.
shane, prod and Ishod both have amazing regular and switch varial heels. Love all your content big homie
This channel is definitely S tier
Gifted Hatter.
On this subject- come to think of it -there is a slight difference between seeing a trick being done and liking or disliking it and whether or not I like doing a trick. Maybe that difference doesn’t exist for some people.
Some of my favourite tricks to watch are casper big flips and nollie front foot flips
kyota umeki is the only dude i have seen with a cool varial heelflip
based
V heels r always nice, few have nice v flips tho
Hittin us with that Jason Adam's x chuckee cheese fit
S tier: impossible, fs flip, inward heel, heelflip
A tier: pop shove, kickflip, bs flip, vheel
B tier: vflip, laserflip,
C tier: hardflipk
D tier: late shuv
Tre flips are S tier for sure
Neen has the sickest varial heels
Nice hat very Greg Lutzka type drip
Lazer flip nose blunt would look sick tho.
Skate 3 might have ruined me because I love how the inward heel looks in skate 3
How bout the amon us flip?
Good point
Also balls
Just came across your channel, loving it! 🔥🔥❤️❤️
Great tear list super respectable, hope i can buy some merch soon
the late shuv segment killed me lmao
the award for best new channel goes to...
there was a varial flip to manual that Vincent Touzery did in Blessed that was so stylish
varial heel > everything TBH
Robert Neal has good varial heels imo
i feel the same way about varial flips that you do about varial heels i think heels look so sick
You have the trick taste of a teenager, varial kickflip ranked higher than any trick lets me know everything i need too
Variel heels have always been tight to me since THPS. Yes….i haven’t let go.
Pressure flip better be No. 1
Impossibles are way easier with an FA board or anything with heavy concave
Imo if you do an imposible in a FA board you are corny