Four possible explanations for what that gunk is: 1) Blu Tack to enable future Blu-ray playback 2) Hubba Bubba for better sounding bubblegum 3) Plastic explosive for punchier bass 4) Play-Doh for rejuvenated treble
@@12voltvidsI have denon pre amp and a denon power amp with thx its on all the time and never failes the fan is super quiet to. And interesting to know that about the sony es and metal never new that doesnt suprise me I got a sony es casette deck in 2001 it wasnt like my dads sony tape deck from 1986 that thing is a workhorse unit stil run it everyday.
This is NOT the way to damp resonances that occur when you sit your equipment on top of your subwoofer. I was the counter man at a small electronics shop back in the 1990s. Guy brought in a VCR that had been eating tapes, so he sprayed WD-40 into the tape door. Total loss that one.
Original owner's favourite songs: Most blues songs? Perhaps also 'I'm Sticking With You', 'Stuck On You', 'Let's Stay Together' and 'Let's Stick Together' amongst others? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Dave... Somewhere around 2009 --- 2010 there was a thing going around about using putty to "darken the background" when playing CDs. The theory was that it stopped "microvibrations" from affecting the spinning disk. There is a (fortunately small) sub-group of rather malicious trolls who get off on seeing who can make a naïve user do the stupidest things. I first came across this when I went on a service call for printer problems. The tech had the whole office sitting in the dark because "the infrared from the fluorescent lights was affecting the printers". Once we tracked down the technician, he confessed to having beer bets with his buddies about it. The winner got free beer for the night. That loser lost his job.
Audiofool grifters sold putty as quantum audio purification gel for improving the "vibrancy" of CD player sound. You bet someone wrote a review claiming their jazz CDs sounded much "warmer" and had more "definition" than ever before.
This made me laugh. They must have read the comments about damping and vibrations, and how in speakers that have no bracing resonate at certain frequencies. I personally would have read a bit further about the Analog to digital process. As far as im aware, the buffer would normally take care of any skips and that player looks like it could handle a few vibrations. This seems to be a thought pattern brought over from Turn Tables. Maybe they though the vibrations would make their way into the CD and somehow color the sound like that of having big speakers interact with the record/stylus.
Yes and they changed (read: worsened) the formula a few years back, so now it doesn't stick half as well as it used to. If this is the old stuff it's worth holding onto!
@12voltvids Yes absolutely! Like the idiot who told me his tweeter response was better because he made a 'sound dispersion array' and stuck them to the front of the driver's..I kid you not. 😄
Looks like a prank. Edit: yeah, advice like putting sugar on your lawn and putting salt down the drain. There's all kinds of "advice" that should be taken with a grain of NACL.
you hate plastic clips me to because we think things should be able to be repaired. I have watched you work on a lot of equipment very few of which were not made to repair they seem to mostly be made to replace with "new and improved" models instead that are assembled very quickly by just snapping much of it together when they can get away with it.
Looks like one of the Smurfs had a fun night in there! Ahh the audiophool community they provide endless entertainment for those of us in the logic and reason camp. They spout nonsense in their echo chambers and convince each other that the ridiculous things they do "improve the sound". Anyone remember OFC oxygen free copper 😄?
Alternative comment: The best way to ensure you can't lose the screws if they come lose? Blu-Tack them to the boards? LOL. Still, could have been worse, the whole unit could have been Blu-Tacked together (with NO screws!).
I found the same thing inside a turntable I was repairing. Blu-tack. An audiophool's idea of vibration absorption. Like it would really matter in a digital optical disc.
28:50 I had an old Yamaha DVD player, and it didn't have an eject button on the remote either. However, hitting the stop button twice would eject the DVD.
Thank you for telling the truth about the blu-tak treatment, the Sony ES line, and so on. I work on vintage audio for a living and I see some of the weirdest stuff you can imagine, done in the name of "blacker blacks," or "airier highs," etc. 95% of it is BS.
Audiofools! There's nothing like 'em! I had one customer who put a piece of paper under one leg of every chair and table because it sounded better. Filling your Linn LP12 turntable with Blu-tak was a favorite pastime in the 80's. These people understand nothing about electronics or physics but preach like experts parroting other idiots in the HiFi press of the day.
Taking those little switches apart is a risk that they just won't go back together. Although not as lasting, an easy fix is to press the button with the point of a small screwdriver and douse it in alcohol or cleaner then press the button down with the eraser end of a pencil and spin it back and forth a few times. There is enough internal motion to clean the contacts.
Wow, what a mess. I have a Playstation 2 which has rattling disc tray when it opens. Tried to lubricate it, but still makes the sound, luckily no blu-tack seen there :D The console works, so haven't taken it any further, it's just a minor annoyance. Probably there's some wear and tear somewhere causing the noise. Bought this console used, so who knows how much it's been used in the past. It's the original fat model, so at the newest, it can be from 2004, might be even from 2000. My much newer Xbox One S caused bigger problem couple of days ago, it took disc in, but for some reason, didn't recognise there's disc in, so game didn't start and couldn't even eject it by normal means. Tried to reboot the console, but no help. Had to manually eject the disc using mechanical emergency eject button deep inside the drive. It did it once before, but reboot solved the problem that time.
It's to stop the shell from resonation or ringing, which may help the Laser from mis tracking. You say high-end machine, but like most "Best Buy" name brand electronics, they are built with the cheapest materials and components possible.
No different than the audio phoolery gear. All made from the same crap no matter what they charge. The high end manufacture may very well have their own part numbers. Pretty easy to laser etch your own numbers onto cheap parts from wherever and charge a premium for them.
@@12voltvids actually much different. If your talking CD/DVD players it's best to start with someone else electronics. Change out the power supply which very important to performance, build a better analog output stage, which probably sounds better then $0.50 op-amps. Use a copper connector instead of a pressed tin RCA. Build a heavy pretty case, which will be less resonant than the cheaper cases. Lasers don't like vibration. I feel the more phool is the one that pays $1800 for an AV amp which is worth exactly $150 after 4 years. Audio/Video on the lowend is ALL BS, smoke and mirrors, and only marketing when it comes to over all quality. After the first owner, no one sees value in name brand electronics, which is why most sells so cheap in the secondhand market. Lets not forget engineering. DA Converters are very difficult to build for high performance, but you can use the Circuit provided from the Chip supplier and get a very workable product. Ask an engineer and they will tell there is so much more involved. The thing is your kind of audio phoolery isn't for everyone.
And just think … whoever did that would likely have sworn up and down that he could hear an improvement in the sound quality. Blue Silly Putty. What the hell?!
5:49 It gets better: a supposed reputable electronic "engineering" company (won't naim names) _still_ constructs its amplifiers with loose input/output connectors as it supposedly "improves" the sound; I was actually told this in a h-fi store, by one of the assistants, whilst demoing a product (not from this "engineering" company). I asked for the physic behind the claims and was met with a "tumbleweed" response; a lot of this pseudo scientific bilge is propagated jointly by some manufacturer's marketing teams and the "hi-fi" media.
No it didn't. Scientific facts aren't 'woke' (whatever tf that means these days). Bet you were triggered by the comment about the big orange manbaby too 🙄
Anti-vibration was a marketing BS term from the 80’s. Many CD players stated as having anti-vibration chassis. This is an audio fool’s next level homebrew. I bet he colored his CDs with green marker too!
Who thinks up stupid ideas like this, if there was a vibration problem, the manufacturer would address it before they started making them in their thousands. Mind you, there are cheap skates around, but a firm like Yamaha, Sony, etc, would like to keep their reputation. You do get some clowns around, he should have been in a circus!!
this is why you never buy anything from an audiophile without first being absolutely 100% sure that it has never been opened or worked on in any way, because they do stupid shit like this.
Ah, the expensive "Man with ball of plasticine knows better than the designer" audiophile modification. When I bought my CDP-337ESD originally, an "audiophile" friend of mine liked it, then "improved" it by forcing a blob of bluetac to the "puck" or clamp of the disc drive to reduce the ringing. Fortunately, this unit was old enough to be over engineered. I diagnosed massively loud jitter a few months later. I disassembled the transport and found that this "mod" installation my friend did actually bent the motor spindle... Once straightened/fixed, the unit has played almost daily the last 10 years. Some people are just crazy.
11:12 The manufacturer may also have done this in order to lower the fundamental resonant frequency; this would have dated back to turntable design, where it was thought that the sound from the turntables was affected by feedback from the amplified music; the theory would have then been propagated (by the usual suspects) to apply to CD as well, which would be total rubbish of course, since mechanical vibrations would cause mis-tracking and not be fed back into the audio signal as would happen with a turntable.
I know once i worked on a VCR that a friend of mine had, they had kids too and the kids Put A peanut butter and Jelly sandwich into the Loading door, now that was a mess to get out and alot of cleaning to do, but got the thing to work, when the owner asked his kids why they did so the response was thery didn't want the machine to die of hunger., yet that sandwich itself was enough to allmost ruin it. so yes, that really happens.
Four possible explanations for what that gunk is:
1) Blu Tack to enable future Blu-ray playback
2) Hubba Bubba for better sounding bubblegum
3) Plastic explosive for punchier bass
4) Play-Doh for rejuvenated treble
Drat !! You beat me to it ...😄😄😄
R.I .P Morph. 🇬🇧
I think Wallace and Gromit, plus the entire cast of Chicken Run are in there too.
Did Chas finally go too far?!
@@ZacabebOTG I hope Pingu escaped
“Seller refurbished” 😂😂
😚😙
😂😂😂😅
@@12voltvidsI have denon pre amp and a denon power amp with thx its on all the time and never failes the fan is super quiet to. And interesting to know that about the sony es and metal never new that doesnt suprise me I got a sony es casette deck in 2001 it wasnt like my dads sony tape deck from 1986 that thing is a workhorse unit stil run it everyday.
This is NOT the way to damp resonances that occur when you sit your equipment on top of your subwoofer.
I was the counter man at a small electronics shop back in the 1990s. Guy brought in a VCR that had been eating tapes, so he sprayed WD-40 into the tape door. Total loss that one.
Original owner's favourite songs: Most blues songs? Perhaps also 'I'm Sticking With You', 'Stuck On You', 'Let's Stay Together' and 'Let's Stick Together' amongst others? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Dave... Somewhere around 2009 --- 2010 there was a thing going around about using putty to "darken the background" when playing CDs. The theory was that it stopped "microvibrations" from affecting the spinning disk.
There is a (fortunately small) sub-group of rather malicious trolls who get off on seeing who can make a naïve user do the stupidest things. I first came across this when I went on a service call for printer problems. The tech had the whole office sitting in the dark because "the infrared from the fluorescent lights was affecting the printers". Once we tracked down the technician, he confessed to having beer bets with his buddies about it. The winner got free beer for the night. That loser lost his job.
And people fell for that!!!!!
Remember the green felt tip pen to paint around the edge of CDs ?
@@BoB4jjjjs
If you look at the video, the answer is "Obviously they did".
@@hifismiffy
Remember the CD edge grinder that beveled the sharp edges to prevent reflections?
@@Douglas_Blake_579Dude I've met manufacturers at audio shows who insist that improves the sound! Urgh.
That is the LAST thing I was expecting you to expose. Can't stop laughing!
Well I have a lifetime supply of blu tack now
Audiofool grifters sold putty as quantum audio purification gel for improving the "vibrancy" of CD player sound. You bet someone wrote a review claiming their jazz CDs sounded much "warmer" and had more "definition" than ever before.
This made me laugh. They must have read the comments about damping and vibrations, and how in speakers that have no bracing resonate at certain frequencies. I personally would have read a bit further about the Analog to digital process. As far as im aware, the buffer would normally take care of any skips and that player looks like it could handle a few vibrations. This seems to be a thought pattern brought over from Turn Tables. Maybe they though the vibrations would make their way into the CD and somehow color the sound like that of having big speakers interact with the record/stylus.
The audiophile special. 😂🤣
Audiophool special
I love music, got some cabinet bunper stuff that helps with the niise closing cabinet doors under my speakers.
@@12voltvids
Stuff like this is why I no longer work on HiFi audio clowns' stuff. They always know better so I let them fix their own junk.
@@NunYa953 True!
@@tacofortgens3471 That's what it is for
My ribs are aching from laughing so much!! Stop it Dave .. mercy!!!
Blu-Tack? You might want to save it as it's good for holding components in place while soldering!
Yes and they changed (read: worsened) the formula a few years back, so now it doesn't stick half as well as it used to. If this is the old stuff it's worth holding onto!
Man, I just got a marantz sacd player from ebay last month, I think I should take a look inside it just in case lol
In all my years of servicing audio equipment have never seen anything quite like this. Someone spent a fortune on blu-tack!! 😂
They do call them audiophools
@12voltvids Yes absolutely! Like the idiot who told me his tweeter response was better because he made a 'sound dispersion array' and stuck them to the front of the driver's..I kid you not. 😄
batshit insane audiophools
Looks like a prank.
Edit: yeah, advice like putting sugar on your lawn and putting salt down the drain. There's all kinds of "advice" that should be taken with a grain of NACL.
Audiofools are silly bunch creatures. Good thing is that they still haven't discovered the amazing dampening properties of expanding foam😂
Apply Blu-Tak around your earlobes to reduce resonances . I place house bricks on my shoes as well - very effective . 😃😃😃
you hate plastic clips me to because we think things should be able to be repaired. I have watched you work on a lot of equipment very few of which were not made to repair they seem to mostly be made to replace with "new and improved" models instead that are assembled very quickly by just snapping much of it together when they can get away with it.
You can use Blutack itself to pull out more of itself. Works really well. But I hope you won't need to deal with this another time.
Looks like one of the Smurfs had a fun night in there!
Ahh the audiophool community they provide endless entertainment for those of us in the logic and reason camp. They spout nonsense in their echo chambers and convince each other that the ridiculous things they do "improve the sound".
Anyone remember OFC oxygen free copper 😄?
Alternative comment: The best way to ensure you can't lose the screws if they come lose? Blu-Tack them to the boards? LOL. Still, could have been worse, the whole unit could have been Blu-Tacked together (with NO screws!).
I found the same thing inside a turntable I was repairing. Blu-tack. An audiophool's idea of vibration absorption. Like it would really matter in a digital optical disc.
Modded to play those new-fangled Blu-Tak Discs ? Oh, please !! 🤣🤣🤣
Why, that's oxygen-free anti-resonance EMI-inhibiting audiophool chewing gum! Typically sells for $69.69 per gram!
OMG 😂😂 Who would have done that to put a puddy into the player? Has it so funny.
28:50 I had an old Yamaha DVD player, and it didn't have an eject button on the remote either.
However, hitting the stop button twice would eject the DVD.
Thank you for telling the truth about the blu-tak treatment, the Sony ES line, and so on. I work on vintage audio for a living and I see some of the weirdest stuff you can imagine, done in the name of "blacker blacks," or "airier highs," etc. 95% of it is BS.
Audiofools! There's nothing like 'em! I had one customer who put a piece of paper under one leg of every chair and table because it sounded better. Filling your Linn LP12 turntable with Blu-tak was a favorite pastime in the 80's. These people understand nothing about electronics or physics but preach like experts parroting other idiots in the HiFi press of the day.
Taking those little switches apart is a risk that they just won't go back together.
Although not as lasting, an easy fix is to press the button with the point of a small screwdriver and douse it in alcohol or cleaner then press the button down with the eraser end of a pencil and spin it back and forth a few times. There is enough internal motion to clean the contacts.
If all else fails, it's easy enough to replace them. They can be commonly salvaged from other dead equipment.
One channel showed a disc shaving machine that was supposed to prevent tracking errors.
Snake oil
Yeah, that's Techmoan, he sells it as snake oil from the get go. :)
Someone went crazy with the BluTac!
Ya think.
Wow.that must be a special limited edition.i have never seen anything like it.
You've now got enough blue stuff to earthquake proof all the picture hanging on the walls for your whole neighbourhood.
Wow, what a mess. I have a Playstation 2 which has rattling disc tray when it opens. Tried to lubricate it, but still makes the sound, luckily no blu-tack seen there :D
The console works, so haven't taken it any further, it's just a minor annoyance. Probably there's some wear and tear somewhere causing the noise. Bought this console used, so who knows how much it's been used in the past. It's the original fat model, so at the newest, it can be from 2004, might be even from 2000.
My much newer Xbox One S caused bigger problem couple of days ago, it took disc in, but for some reason, didn't recognise there's disc in, so game didn't start and couldn't even eject it by normal means. Tried to reboot the console, but no help. Had to manually eject the disc using mechanical emergency eject button deep inside the drive. It did it once before, but reboot solved the problem that time.
It's to stop the shell from resonation or ringing, which may help the Laser from mis tracking. You say high-end machine, but like most "Best Buy" name brand electronics, they are built with the cheapest materials and components possible.
No different than the audio phoolery gear. All made from the same crap no matter what they charge. The high end manufacture may very well have their own part numbers. Pretty easy to laser etch your own numbers onto cheap parts from wherever and charge a premium for them.
@@12voltvids actually much different. If your talking CD/DVD players it's best to start with someone else electronics. Change out the power supply which very important to performance, build a better analog output stage, which probably sounds better then $0.50 op-amps. Use a copper connector instead of a pressed tin RCA. Build a heavy pretty case, which will be less resonant than the cheaper cases. Lasers don't like vibration. I feel the more phool is the one that pays $1800 for an AV amp which is worth exactly $150 after 4 years. Audio/Video on the lowend is ALL BS, smoke and mirrors, and only marketing when it comes to over all quality. After the first owner, no one sees value in name brand electronics, which is why most sells so cheap in the secondhand market. Lets not forget engineering. DA Converters are very difficult to build for high performance, but you can use the Circuit provided from the Chip supplier and get a very workable product. Ask an engineer and they will tell there is so much more involved. The thing is your kind of audio phoolery isn't for everyone.
Well, THAT is definitely a first!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG I burst out laughing as well
CZcams chose a shot if the cabinet as the thumbnail getting the cat out of the bag so i had to change it for the big reveal.
blue tack?
And just think … whoever did that would likely have sworn up and down that he could hear an improvement in the sound quality.
Blue Silly Putty. What the hell?!
I was wondering if you can use 99.9 % Isopropyl alcohol to clean those switches, and the switches that are in TV remote controllers?
Contact cleaner leaves an oil residue that keeps oxygen at Bay.
@@12voltvids Okay that stops oxidation and would be better! Thank you!!! I'll check back to see more content.
Funny. It looks like "Fun Tac." You can use it to temporarily hang stuff on walls, etc.
Same stuff
Welp... if you ever need some of that Blue Booger stuff for other projects, this ought to 'see you out' supply-wise...
Maybe the guy had a bug problem and used the putty to keep the little critters out, he must’ve had some infestation!
BluTak a thousand uses and now plus 1
Yep. And the only legitimate one is sticking your Marilyn Monroe nude posters to your ceiling.
Now you cann hang a tons of posters on the Wall.
Somebody Smurfed up.
That’s a Papa Smurf job.
looked on google and found of picture of inside and def was none of that crap inside
Of course there wasn't. Done by one of the previous owners
5:55 yep, that's basically what happened lol
Putty in the cabinet? That's crazy. Everyone knows that you fill the cabinet with rice.
The cost of buying the Blu-tac is probably more than what the player is worth...! 😂😂😂😂
It's the rare Plasticine Edition sold by select dealers in very limited quantities and highly coveted by audiophiles! 😅
Costs 100 per ounce
Thats crazy! What a mess!
Looks like a eBay or Craigslist special. lol
I have the Yamaha s1700
It's also to fool someone they are buying a heavy quality machine.
Blu Tack in a DVD player...What the heck?! 🤷♂️
More audiophoolery
Joker to a fool: Hey mate.. did you know that putting Blu-Tack in your SACD player stops it from burning your house down?
Dave add this to your intro video. Not factory. Maybe they are also wearing a tinfoil hat.
5:49 It gets better: a supposed reputable electronic "engineering" company (won't naim names) _still_ constructs its amplifiers with loose input/output connectors as it supposedly "improves" the sound; I was actually told this in a h-fi store, by one of the assistants, whilst demoing a product (not from this "engineering" company). I asked for the physic behind the claims and was met with a "tumbleweed" response; a lot of this pseudo scientific bilge is propagated jointly by some manufacturer's marketing teams and the "hi-fi" media.
Look like some kids got in to it and did not care some kids dont give a dam and reck stuff
Maybe make it feel more weighty so better for quality 😂
This stuff has the iFixit color 😂
It turned out that the ivermectin actually did help, unlike the jab itself! I had no idea you were woke!
No it didn't. Scientific facts aren't 'woke' (whatever tf that means these days). Bet you were triggered by the comment about the big orange manbaby too 🙄
@@rich_edwards79settle down ass clown. You two are perfect for each other
Fun y how that puddy spelled BS
I dunno... silly putty and audio fools sound like they just belong together.
Anti-vibration was a marketing BS term from the 80’s. Many CD players stated as having anti-vibration chassis. This is an audio fool’s next level homebrew. I bet he colored his CDs with green marker too!
Isn't this Blutack?
Oh yes !!
Who thinks up stupid ideas like this, if there was a vibration problem, the manufacturer would address it before they started making them in their thousands. Mind you, there are cheap skates around, but a firm like Yamaha, Sony, etc, would like to keep their reputation. You do get some clowns around, he should have been in a circus!!
this is why you never buy anything from an audiophile without first being absolutely 100% sure that it has never been opened or worked on in any way, because they do stupid shit like this.
Audiophool has multiple meanings. This is one.
anti vibration repair...
Or so someone thought.
Yamahahaha!!
🤣
reddit mod
Tin foil hat wearers
It's called Blu Tack at least in Australia anyway.
Sold in the UK as well
Ah, the expensive "Man with ball of plasticine knows better than the designer" audiophile modification.
When I bought my CDP-337ESD originally, an "audiophile" friend of mine liked it, then "improved" it by forcing a blob of bluetac to the "puck" or clamp of the disc drive to reduce the ringing.
Fortunately, this unit was old enough to be over engineered. I diagnosed massively loud jitter a few months later. I disassembled the transport and found that this "mod" installation my friend did actually bent the motor spindle... Once straightened/fixed, the unit has played almost daily the last 10 years.
Some people are just crazy.
11:12 The manufacturer may also have done this in order to lower the fundamental resonant frequency; this would have dated back to turntable design, where it was thought that the sound from the turntables was affected by feedback from the amplified music; the theory would have then been propagated (by the usual suspects) to apply to CD as well, which would be total rubbish of course, since mechanical vibrations would cause mis-tracking and not be fed back into the audio signal as would happen with a turntable.
Let me guess before I even begin to watch the video, "you find a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in the DVD tray I Taco Bell, Mexican pizza
I know once i worked on a VCR that a friend of mine had, they had kids too and the kids Put A peanut butter and Jelly sandwich into the Loading door, now that was a mess to get out and alot of cleaning to do, but got the thing to work, when the owner asked his kids why they did so the response was thery didn't want the machine to die of hunger., yet that sandwich itself was enough to allmost ruin it. so yes, that really happens.