Replacing Mk4 golf rear suspension bushes, on the car. Project daily
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- The daily has needed new rear suspension bushes for ages. Now we've finally got around to it, and we managed to do it on the car without removing the beam or the brake hoses.
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I have to warn you that I have no formal automotive training, and have just learned by breaking stuff. If you can learn anything from my mistakes then great, but you do so at your own risk!
Good work HOWEVER! never remove the rear brackets from the car, this will knock the tracking out needing an expensive 4 wheel alignment!!!! The best way to do it is to pull the bolt out till it touches the fuel tank, then cut it off with a grinder, then pull the rest out. once you have changed the bush and pushed the axle back into the bracket all you have to do is to insert the bolt from the wheel side and put the nut on the inside. It does not matter which way the bolt goes on this part as long as its tightened after your finished! and always always always USE BRAND NEW BOLTS as part of the change, Its them two bolts that holds the whole back axle to the car, If you have had this work done at the dealer have a look under your car and you will see that they fit the new bolts the other way round! Also there is an upgraded bush that is not polly, its a much better bush than the standard ones, part number is (6Q0501541E) or (1ML501541) or (febi 31694) any of these are much better heavy duty bushes but are not quite as hard as polly bushes which are shite on the back end of a golf.
Thanks 👍
I'm in the process of changing the bushing. Drive side, easy. Passenger side, my reaction "What the heck, the gas tank is in the way." This video was very helpful, along with this comment. Thanks to you both.
great tip about the bolt 👍
Hi, also the bolt that fouled on the fuel tank, this is the same with the Mk7 Fiesta, suggestion when replacing, put back in the other way so the bolt can freely be removed if needed in the future
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on the fiesta the brackets dont have adjustment IIRC so its OK to remove them, but on the golfs they have adjustment and you should avoid altering the alignment of them
Thanks. Just bought the parts, new nuts and bolts and a mini hack saw!! 😜
Thanks, no problems. Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
Superb video and plenty of good ideas of the use tools most of us have in our garage. Apart from having to either borrow or buy the bush puller it all seems quite easy to do. Thankyou you have probably saved me a small fortune doing it myself instead of letting the MOT garage do the job . I look forward to more VW video jobs .
Thanks, no problems 👍
Im about to do mine next week just order the bushes and new bolts and the bush install tool.
Octavia estate mk1 1.9tdi
I fitted new rear shocks now the rear feels like worn out shocks so the bushes are getting replaced hopefully it will feel more stiffened.
Good luck sorting it out 🤞.
This was the video I was looking for - unfortunately I learnt the hard the way by repairing the rear brake lines and knocking the rear alignment out ;-) - I found Poly Bushings didn't make much difference to the comfort, but super easy to install and do not require aligning. I also replaced rear suspension top mounts and springs. Really like the way you implemented the scissor jack and hydraulic jack, highly recommend 4 wheel alignment after any suspension work.
Thanks 👍
I’ve just done the rear bushes on my VW T5, done the arb bushes as well. What an absolute ball ache on a gravel drive. Brake pipe snapped both sides trying to get them out..didn’t have a removal tool like you so set the bushes on fire & then knocked the inner casing out (one took 2 hours as it was rusted to the arm 🤦🏻♂️) I was putting poly bushes in so they went back in a lot easier than the standard bushes.
Good work sorting it out 👌. They can be a right pain sometimes. I did think about fitting poly bushes but was worried they might be a bit stiff and noisy. How do you find them now they're fitted, any better?
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop my van is lowered on coilovers so it’s stiff anyway, that’s why I opted for poly bush. Just ordered a set for the front (hopefully easier than the rear 😜)
@@gandhi1078 . It'll all be brand new once you've done 👍
Great idea of yours, i loved these ideas to make work replacements of parts without have to take apart half the car, great please keep making these videos, thank you sir
Thanks very much, I'll try🤞
replacing mine with 80 durometer polyurethane next week! along with all other bushings too same poly, cant wait! i love my MK4 Jetta VR6 Sedan so so much, and i have the same wheels! BBS Montreal II! but wrapped in Hankook RS-4 tires (sticky because she gets pushed down b-roads very often)
Sounds great😃. I'm sure you'll feel the difference once you've fitted all of those poly bushes, it'll be like it's on rails👌. I went for 'soft & comfortable' 'old git' rubber bushes 😂. Good luck fitting them🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Lucky for me the cross member broke from rust and the the new one already came with bushings installed 😅
Oh blimey 😳. At least you got it sorted 👌
A lot of thanks gor this great video. It is the better about vw rear suspensio bushes. Best regards from Chile 💪😎
Thanks, no problems 👍
Well done, I’ve got same job to do on our Jetta and Golf.
Thanks, good luck sorting yours out🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
dont get the standard bushes, (6Q0501541E) or (1ML501541) or (febi 31694) any of these are much better heavy duty bushes but are not quite as hard as polly bushes which are shite on the back end of a golf, always use new bolts!
Well done! But wouldn't you grease the new bushings before installing?
Thanks 👍. Shouldn't need to as the outer part of the bush is plastic (IIRC).
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Well done mate. Just done my mot today and there was advisory regarding this bushes. I'm gonna buy them ASAP and of course buy/ hire the removal set. Anyway great video.
Thanks 😃. Good luck with the repair 🤞.
Cheers Larcs 👍
dont get the standard bushes, (6Q0501541E) or (1ML501541) or (febi 31694) any of these are much better heavy duty bushes but are not quite as hard as polly bushes which are shite on the back end of a golf, always use new bolts!
Glad to see a local person on CZcams I have a mk4 1.8t golf estate and will be doing the same only I will be polly bushing them. Shame I don't have your workshop 😀. I have subscribed to your channel and now off to find you on Instagram
Thanks, good luck doing the polybushes. They should be easier to fit than the original style 🤞. Mk4 1.8t estate must be a bit rare?
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@LarcsWorkshop they seem to be a rare horse it needs a bit of TLC to bring it up to show room. I am hoping to get into making youtube videos with the repairs/upgrades. Probably see you out and about 👍
@@s114rky nice one👌
Does anyone know if a manual bearing puller tool would work with removing these bushings? I gotta do this on my mk4 Vr6. i am relectant to buy the tool how important is it really?
@@user-qz6kt1dl7e . I don't know of a proper removal tool, they all seem to be advertised as fitting tools. Gotta love a VR6 btw👌.
GoodLord,that's such a tough work for a solo work man XD,especially carry a camera. Enjoy your work and attitude towards life,Larcs. Salute！
Thank you so much, that's very kind😃. Cheers Larcs 👍.
Thanks for the great info video
Going to do the job soon so was good to see your job
what size spacer did you use to drive in the bearing ?
No problems 😃, thanks for the comment. Sorry, I can't remember what bits I used out of the kit now, it was a while ago.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Bushing is normally 69mm so anything over 70mm - poly-bushes only require a rubber mallet to tap into place
They are 16mm bolts & nuts, not 17mm.
Learned the hard way when rounded off bolt head using a 17mm...
Thanks👍
Much respect for you bud,i own a mk4 golf,and my rear bushes are starting to look tired,i must say you made that look easy,how much did you pay for the hydraulic stand if you don't mind me asking,great video my friend..well done.👍
Thanks, they weren't too bad, just awkward and a bit time consuming. I got the QuickJacks second hand off Facebook market place for £750.
Cheers Larcs 👍
If it helps, I was able to get plenty of height with axel stands using two hydraulic jacks and blocks of wood. Brick the front wheels and combine jacks and axel stands for extra safety when clubbing the old bushings out. the plastic bush are easier to remove. Some have older metal housed busing, these take a bit more work but same process.
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Thank you from your only Dutch fan.
Thanks 😂👌👍
Second dutch fan here.
@@markpons7406 eindelijk!
@@markpons7406 Whoop, whoop thanks 👌, truly international 🥳.
Cheers Larcs 👍
@@frednetherlands887 👌👍
Good morning.
Can you tell me where you found the extraction kit, and what is its reference? Thank you for your great video.
Hi, I borrowed the kit from a friend but it didn't do the full job. I had to make the rest up with stuff I had around.
Cheers Larcs 👍
What do you think of the ride after a longer time of running with them new bushes?
Back to standard really. Felt a little more predictable when pushing on a bit. Happy with the results thanks.
Cheers, Larcs 👍
tricky job u did well pat on back for that one ==good vid
Thanks 👌.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Very informative video thank you
Thank you very much 👍
Good job chief
Thanks 👍
What size of the flapper wheel did you use ? Thanks in advance fir reply
Thanks, I think it was a 60mm diameter flapper wheel.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Que diámetro tiene el buje metálico más chico con el que saca el buje de hule?
Sorry, I can't remember what size it was.
Hello Sir. Where do you buy this car elevator system ?. Congratulations for your video.
Hi & thanks, they're called QuickJacks and I bought them used from Facebook Marketplace. I did a video about them ( czcams.com/video/wdxtec1Tz-g/video.html ).
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Thanks for the video. How long did the whole job take you?
Thanks, it's hard to say really. Filming it always takes a lot longer, and getting bits together to fit the new bushes took a while. If you had all of the tools together, it could be done in a morning. I would set a full day aside to do it though. Good luck 🤞.
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Hey! Can I replace rear bushes of 2 sides, without cut brake pipes? Thanks
Yes, just be careful.
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Poly bushes would be / are far easier. Like the way you removed the bushes though.
Thanks, I agree about poly bushes but at my age I need comfort over sportiness 🤣.
Cheers Larcs 👍
dont get the standard bushes, (6Q0501541E) or (1ML501541) or (febi 31694) any of these are much better heavy duty bushes but are not quite as hard as polly bushes which are shite on the back end of a golf, always use new bolts!
@@robinsonlabs Thanks 👍
Brilliant mate thx for that ....👍
Thanks, no problem😃.
Cheers Larcs 👍
Hi Larcs just want to know, my back tires wore out the inside tread. What could be the problem? is it this axle bushes you replace here? I have a Golf 4 1.6i 2003
Could be, best to have a visual of them and see if they are worn out. Good luck.
Cheers Larcs 👍
dont get the standard bushes, (6Q0501541E) or (1ML501541) or (febi 31694) any of these are much better heavy duty bushes but are not quite as hard as polly bushes which are shite on the back end of a golf, always use new bolts!
should have put those bolts the correct way, from outside
Thanks, I thought about it, but then just put them back the way I found them.
Cheers Larcs 👍
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hi good job, one question did you have to undo brake lines on passenger side to lower beam, mine are looking very crusty
@@pauloneill8912 Thanks 👍. I managed to do it without undoing the brake pipes. If they're looking crusty it might be an opportune time to replace them? Good luck sorting it out 🤞
@@LarcsWorkshop many thanks, how did you get room to drop the beam on the passenger side?
@@pauloneill8912 Thanks. IIRC I undone the brake hard line bracket to give it a bit more slack.
@@LarcsWorkshop yeah thats what ive done on one side but the other the bracket is fixed, ive undone the brake union and the flexi is rusted solid into the bracket, will need to cut the bracket off i think, thanks for your replies and keep up the good content
@@pauloneill8912 Thanks. Good luck sorting it out 🤞