A Tale of Toys & Tokusatsu.
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2022
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The problem with Tokusatsu is not the heavy promotion of toys. The true problem is that BANDAI DIDN'T MAKE A VISTAMP BASED OFF OF KAMEN RIDER SHIN.
And on the vpet/video game side of things, in spite of Bandai Japan owning a Pokemon toy license, they have yet to make a pokemon DiM card for Vital Bracelet like they did with Medabots. Both Kyurem and Necrozma could use the jogress (DNA Digivolve) mechanic too and they could make up an Omegamon style jogress with Armarouge and Ceruledge like they made Omedamon with Metabee and Rokusho (Violet Omedgemon?) . Its armor could be made of Registeel Digizoid like how Omedamon's is made of Cyplasium Digizoid.
WHERE IS MY KAMEN RIDER GAY VISTAMP
What is this replys man😂
digimon fan:complete grammar for a feedback and perfect grammar
Kamen rider fan:VISTAMP I WANT
I think the real reason Tsuburaya went full on toyetic is to recoup the money they've spent on the decades-long lawsuit against Chaiyo
Toys were never the problem. The problem is when writers can't incorporate the toys into their stories.
To be fair, fans can like shows whether or not the toys are implemented well. I appreciate when they are smart with toy use and use the entire cast, but not everyone notices that.
I blame toys for pidgeonholding the lead as over accessorized, or being intrusive to mecha designs like that have during the 2010s.
Honestly i love the toys of tokusatsu. It's what makes them unique. It's just not the same without noisy toys shouting at you while transforming y'know
Frankly, anybody who has a problem with modern belts/weapons that are flashy/noisy are in the odd minority.
KAIGAN! ORE! LETS GO KAKUGO GO GO GO GHOSTO!!! GO. GO. GO.
I really do like the Tokusatu toys, because they're practically Show accurate. They make you feel like you actually have the item from the show. I would be lying if i didn't crack a smile getting my hands on a gimmick i thought looked cool.
I've just gotten into Gundam and I think this is applicable to that franchise now. Sometimes the "selling toy" aspect can be obvious (when a suit gets replaced/upgraded too early, or the entire Build franchise), but I think it's great to have some attachment to the Mobile Suits and have the model kits displayed on my desk. Like the Witch From Mercury series for example. I wasn't sold on the Darilbalde at first, but episode 3 made me appreciate its cool points and want to purchase it.
I like it when gimmicks are made in some ways that don't make me feel like I'm buying hollow pieces of plastic just to unlock what I already have. Like the gashats.
Hearing Marcos say "a brand new toy" feels a bit nostalgic for some reason.
Tokusatsu is great in spite of it's toys. When I was watching Kamen Rider OOO with friends they made the observation that it was ironic that certain episodes have an anti-greed and anti-corporation message in a series made to sell you things. I like to think of it instead that the people working on the show care so much about making a show with good morals that they don't care if it runs contradictory to the supplemental material and merchandising.
To counterpoint, some series do a better job at integrating their toys into the show than others, and I think that can be a fair reason why somebody would prefer one series over another. I think it's a delicate balance to have the show introduce the toys they want to sell at a scheduled time and write it in appropriately to keep immersion, and not everybody can do it consistently well every year.
My only gripe with the overabundance of toys and merch regarding toku is that if you get into a show AFTER it's ended and wanna buy it's merch, you might be looking into some pretty big purchases especially if the show has a lot of merch and is popular like W.
@qtsssim the limited amount of merchants make getting Toku toys harder. But yeah, fans should have prepped to spend a lot on old and new. A heap of merchandise are affordable, with W alone getting many rereleases.
Love how Kyuranger kind of took the micky with it's Bingo wheel , Japanese parents must HATE "A new collectable toy/gimmick EACH YEAR" though
Personally coming from an American viewer that grew up around Power Rangers and honestly Dragon Knight (yes not Ryuki 😭) I was never bothered by all the product placement and now being older and watching Kamen Rider and some Super Sentai I still don't mind some things I expect like all the cliche getting a power up out of nowhere or a beserk form they learn to control to me it's all just toku charm, with some of my favorite Heisei era season being W, Gaim and Build ad well as Zero One and Geats in Reiwa I'm totally down with the gimmick toys although rip my wallet but I'm closing in on getting all my Zero One stuff I wanted and going to look towards Geats now 🙏🏻🙏🏻
When I was a kid I have many kamen rider figures (like formrideseries diend, den-o and agito, w series accel, eternal non actionable, and fourze double rocket state) as well as statues, smaller one like kuuga titan and Pegesus, V3, gaim super form. And the larger one den-o. I
i also collect large amount of ganbaride arcade trading cards.(I remember having the 5 star putotyra , agito shining, black rx, fang joker, tatoba, decade, G3-x, fourze fire state, fourze, faiz, ryuki,)
and finally I have the dx ooo belt special edition (including tajador) as well as having putotyra core medal. And also the fourze electric state saber.
When I grow up I have the figure rise standard kuuga
Wonderful video! Really loved the shoutout to the Galaxy era of Ultraman since its my favorite era of the franchise in both toys and story.
The statement about the showa riders legacy items hurt and hit me close to home lmao, but I'm happy with Revice they made an effort sorta lmao.
Really enjoyed it!
Thanks Marcos, this video was great and I for one enjoy collectable gimmicks from Sentai, Rider, and Ultra, they make the show more fun since the hero gets more power and thus EVOLVES the fighting (seriously compare Ultraman Z's fighting styles from all the way from Alpha Edge to Delta Rise Claw), and regardless of how gimmicky Toku can be, I still love it
One of the 'problems' I have with toku is that starting with heisei phase 2, there has been a more heavy focus on the toy collectibles, with recent years having a boom in the amount of drivers in the show just to have more drivers. Although I do love that there has been support with missing items recently with Ex-Aid and Build, for as much flack as I give Bandai, they've also upped the quality in the drivers and I'll still keep buying it all (not the CSM though(yet)).
*Heisei Phase 2 of Kamen Rider. Those phases don't apply to other tokusatsu media
@@Jay_D_Ashe you can with ultraman’s equivalent with “new gen” or post zero movies. Sentai on the other hand is anything post boukenger IMO. All share similar time frame and toy shilling theme anyway.
buying toku toys and merch is the same as buying any kind of anime or comic merch. or for those less cultured sports memorabilia its just to show love for what you like
I love you Keiwa was the best part of this video
Personally I really like the full bottles. I didn’t really pay attention to the full bottles till I realized b they had toys. Like watching build I completely forgot the toys.
personally the comparatively large number of "gimmick" items in Kamen Rider compared to other mainstream toku shows like Sentai and Ultraman is one of the main reasons I prefer Rider to those shows, because I have the attention span of a flea
Every media exists to sell you something, toys or otherwise. Tokusatsu is made to sell toys, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is made to sell toys, Transformers, He-Man; even the first Iron Man movie was picked to use Iron Man because that's the toy kids said they'd like to have most. There is nothing wrong with that; though it can get a bit annoying when a show introduces a new form for the first 17 episodes mostly to sell toys, or 9 different belts. I have a lot of merch of my favorite seasons of these shows and I don't regret it and I only buy them when I have the money for it. My worst problem is running out of space to display them.
My friend asked me about toku the other day and I don't feel like telling him I just pointed him to your channel
The tokuboomers as what Marcos refer to are genuinely one of the WORST things to get into this small community, like toku fandom are already small and these assholes just came in and point fingers and harass people who likes certain things that aren't the 90s kamen rider not knowing how much toei just do not care about the 90s rider much other than Amazon, ichigo, black and that's it
Our community is so small and these toxicity are genuinely making the community more unwelcoming than it seems
A BRAND NEW TOY!
As someone(finishing) a degree in Marketing, I think Tokusatsu is a great example of how a franchise can be both wonderful story wise, yet also marketable enough for the suits to be appeased by profits. I have never really been bothered by this mindset, most likely because I've grown up liking shows such as justice league and samurai jack that sold toys but were also still great as stories.
I do however hate hearing about shows getting cancelled because the "wrong demographic" bought the toys. I think the suits should focus on making money and let the creative run wild. I am arguably telling myself that, considering my career.
Ah yes the things from Tokusatsu I can almost never afford. I have the Gokaiger Mobirate phone and some keys for it, I did always want a Decadriver since it's my favorite Rider belt.
I see you really like anniversary gimmicks :)
@@HBRice17 Yeah kinda, and the Decadriver is like the Kamen Rider Omnitrix to me.
I’d like the Ultraman toys more if:
A: they don’t look absolutely ridiculous in the hands of giants
B: drag out the transformation sequence
This video is so well done :)
This isn't just an issue with Tokusatsu. One of the rumored possible reason Young Justice was originally canceled after its second season was poor toy sales. Course on the other hand, as far as I am aware, Steven Universe initially struggled to find a toy company because it was a show that starred a boy yet toy companies felt it appealed more to girls, which probably confused the crap out of the backwards-thinking "blue toy isle, pink toy isle" morons.
Just as long certain toys don’t fall under Premium Bandai and we’re good.
those cards are pretty cool! Great video
Story good, characters good, then I'll largely forget about the toys while watching it and that's what matters to me.
1:17 NGL, that Gekko Kamen figure looks more like it was based on the anime, you can tell because the belt is different from even the manga, which kept the toku belt design but ditched the turban he had for some reason in the toku version.
Everything is meant to sell something. If not merchandise based on a show, then the ads that appear during the breaks of a show. Besides, what would you rather buy? Colorful collectibles reguardless of the intended age bracket or random, ugly objet d'art you get at a Home Goods like an adult is supposed to buy and fill their home with?
5:01 case in point, Faiz Axel form.
Wow, whoever edited this is a genius!
ye, and whoever wrote it must be really handsome.
I never got why people think "tokusatsu toy commercial lol" is such a gotcha. That's true for every superhero media.
Have you wondered why Batman and Iron Man get a new armor every trimester?
Honestly I haven't bought any toku toys since i was in gradeschool but I love the variety the bring to the shows. Add a new gadget or a new form I love that shit, It keeps episodic series moving in my opinion.
If there is a common theme and its fun i think its fine,especially if its well used in the series associated with it
I love the ride watched and now showa rider coming
for people who think heavily merchandised toys are a modern aspect of toku, let me present my collection of COUNTLESS vinyl ultra-kaiju.
Its ok to buy some merch for shows that you like. Just be sensible, spend money wisely and don't over do it.
I buy some toku toys only for the shows and characters I truly love and leave the rest. However I know some friend overdid it by buying rider merch to the point they became broke .
I agree. Toys aren’t the parasites in Toku,
Secret American writers are the parasites in Toku. 😂 I hate how soft Henshin hero shows have gotten.
NOTE: I am an American myself and I didn’t use that word to offend any fellow Americans. I know that there are great creators in America and there always will be, but I said what I said to make a point about what has happened to Toku in recent years. Henshin hero shows had a certain feeling and air to them, since the end of Kyoryuger, that feeling has been gone.
Secret American writers?
I didn't know we had our hands in it at all.
Out sourcing to foreign writers seems pretty odd
You mean in nationality or ideology?
@@YarugumaSou ideology. It’s just how I’ve been feeling about Toei Henshin Hero stuff for years now. It seems more dumbed down, silly, and less metaphysical than before. It seems like a Disney writer snuck into the staff room. I love Toku, but I think constructive criticism is needed sometimes. I don’t think selling toys is wrong I do however, have a problem with the subtle oddities that weren’t present in Toei’s work before. I used to watch Henshin hero stuff to get a breath of fresh air, now it feels like some smog got in. Do you know what I mean?
@@AStrangeTrap it was just a joke. Ever since Toqger, it feels like some creeps snuck into toei and switched some scripts around. In my opinion. Have you noticed it too?
This was a great video. It's interesting Marcos made this video because it's related to me going through the Ultra Series. To be honest my plan was (still is) to go through Ultra Q to the introduction of Zero. I was going to hold off, mainly because I was going to take a break after watching that much Ultraman, but because of the New Gen Heroes shows starting to use the toy gimmicks. It's one of the reasons why I kind of stopped watching Kamen Rider after Fourze. And as Marcos and so many others have said, these shows are aimed to sell toys to kids, I get that. But when I look at toku from 2010 to now, it can be a little eye rolling and a little distracting how the toy gimmicks have increased. However, I still have a way to go before I get to the New Gen Heroes, so maybe my opinion will change. Again great video Marcos. Would love to see more videos on the Ultra Series in the future.
For me personally it’s the after market. Like for example I got back into Kamen rider, but some of the stuff I want isn’t cheap. I’m lucky to find some of the items for cheap, but for like if I really want something I might pay the big bucks. The after market sucks a lot
I only really get irked when the gimmick requires buying multiple toys to get the basic function of the gimmick going. Like Geats from the get go is going to be absolute hell to collect for the SH figurearts or the gacha line because of the armor combinations.
I was lucky the first 2 I saw [+ Got me into it] weren't too Toy-etic - Jetman and Kamen Rider Black/RX
The one thing about toku toys that I'm not a big fan of (especially the campaign/theater/magazine/premium bandai exclusive items) is that they're ridiculously expensive on whatever site you. like why, people even myself just want to buy the toys and it's not fair for us to pay a lot of cash.
My main problem is the after market and the CSM. It should not be over 300 for something that holds cards and turns into a weapon. If a MP and third party Transformer is around this price and has to do a lot more then CSM, there's no excuse for the price
You don't decide pricing, especially with a more limited market than most known franchises. Transformers aren't even that benevolent with pricing and function, and they're lucky third parties have that much time, fan support, and creative leeway.
The thing is Bandai decides the price with transformers you can copyright names but not character designs so third party can make them but with toku the jingles are copyrighted one of the big reasons to buy so third party can’t make them
I don't mind if Toku decide to have a lot of gimmick, if it done right.
How ?, by incoporating them in to the story, like what this thing is, how it is use, wha is purpose anyway in the story, and ect.
While yes, modern Toku show had a tedency to introduce gimmick for the sake to sell toys, but at least for the most part, they try to give a reason on why that these thing exist in the first place anyway.
Sure some season like KR for example, like Ghost & Zi-O didn't do it really well, but other season like KR W, OOO, Gaim, and Build did a great job to Incorporated the gimmick into the story
Never forget the sausages
My problem is when it cuts into run time. A transformation should not take 1/6 to the run time.
Me remembering some of this problem in Ultraman R/B series when they transform and type change.🗿
to me, the most annoying part is the lack of reissues. I'd like to have some of the older gimmick items without spending like $200 on ebay please.
2021 Me: I Can Ignore the toys for Kamen Rider.
2022 me with my first driver (a build driver) and a legend rider raise buckle: fuck.
I don’t like people putting Toku as a blanket statement especially when there just referring to the henshin hero genre. You cannot say toku is meant to sell toys when it is a entire medium like anime.
Does anyone know what the song at 12:45 is
If only the costumes were sold to the US consumers.
My favourite series are W, OOO, Kiva and Gaim, and my current plans for the channel involve a lot of Lockseeds.
In terms of the toys, I prefer the Super Sentai gattai mechas.
For me, I can't really get into to later heisei and reiwa series because of how blatant the toys can look
Series like ex aid and revice have very loud and plastic-y suit designs that I can't really see as anything but walking action figures when theyre not pretty asian boys trying to look cool playing with their oversized transformers belt; the showa rider suits are definitely theatric for some, but I feel the designs and gimmicks blend in well enough for it not to be distracting
It's gotten to the point that post and pre ishinomori rider occupy different places of my brain, I'm not saying heisei and reiwa are bad but I find it hard to believe they're part of the same franchise as showa
I actually like the toycentric nature of Tokusatsu. It reminds me of Saturday Morning Cartoons from the 80s which ultimately raised some properties to the status of cultural icons. Eventually this style of show was killed in the West by activists and I would argue that generations of kids since then have had a lack of cultural touch stones to share amongst their cohort.
Personally, I evaluate each new show based on the toys and story separately. KR Saber for instance had some really cool toys but the story was lacking so I stopped watching after the first arc. KR Geats IMO has lackluster toys but is easily the best story Reiwa has to date.
I love toys, but I prefer to collect action figures of the characters than transformation props and the likes. And even then, it annoys me when they have too many forms for one character and more annoying when the form they show in the series is used far few times before moving to the next form. One or 2 super modes is okay, but then when it goes to like 5 or more then I call BS. Instead of saving to get multiple characters, my budget goes to multiple versions of one and at times it feels like a ripoff. Which is honestly what my wallet loves about the Showa-era of Tokusatsu when characters only had one form as a representation.
Note to self: write scripts that allow marcos to breathe next time.
American cartoons are shaking rn
Power Rangers toys since 2019 are no longer made by bandai
What about your houses
Ryukendo had toys?
Takara made them. Look up the toys here on CZcams.
Lets be real, 80% of the toku fans pirate the shows but having a means to support it via buying that one big fucking piece of plastic that resembles a stamp/eyeball/usb drive that yells out its name and does a little jingle is good to have if it means im actually supporting the show i like.
Wierd how he says toys to the show so much yet he evades saying "Toetic", the term for a show getting writting to include toys, that happend in Batman forever.
I miss the shows and toys of the 1970s. The shows didn’t put in cheap looking plastic toys that didn’t fit the rest of the character design, and some the toys that did exist were beautifully detailed die cast metal ones.
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Not enough cool action figures from Toku. I have better American ones
Tokusatsu: *BUY OUR TOYS BUY OUR TOYS BUY OUR TOYS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE*
Me; you don’t gotta tell me twice 😁
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