EPISODE 463 I HERMAN MASHABA on Black Like Me, DA, Infidelity, Autobiography, Helen Zille, Action SA
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00; - INTRO
5:05; - Welcome remarks
5:23; - Early life
6:39; - Being a big Kaizer Chiefs fan
10:23; - Selling and Smoking weed
17:43; - First job as a dispatch clerk
17:55; - Second job
19:25; - Becoming a commission sales rep
21:20; - Married to Connie Mashaba since 1982
22:41; - Cheating
25:31; - South African Social ill
31:47; - How he started Black Like Me Brand
36:02; - Receiving ZAR 30, 000.00 start-up capital
40:30; - Selling 3 quarters of the business to Colgate
40:49; - Joining the Democratic Alliance (DA)
43:00; - Helen Zille
46:24; - Thoughts on the new Joburg Mayor (Kabelo Gwamanda)?
48:55; - Game Time
1:00:09; - What he thinks of alliances?
1:02:49; - Julius Malema?
1:05:39; - Unauthorized book
1:18:09; - How heâd like to be remembered?
1:21:29; - Who owns Black Like Me now?
1:29:25; - Special announcement: Advocate Judy Lopez joins Action SA
1:34:04; - Outro
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MacG,please invite Phillip Time Bomb N'dou
This dude is the reason why Cleaners and sercurity guards at the Joburg Municipality building no longer work for tenderpreneurs and have meaningful salaries as permanent employees. Salute to thatđđŒ
It was thanks to the EFF. It was EFF who guided Mashaba until the DA got sick of him got rid of him
lol that's EFF policy. You need to understand capitalism before you understand that capitalism favours contractors and not employees. You are going to waste your vote
EFF policy
You mean the EFF right
He was implementing EFF policies.
I will say it again and again, Macg and Sol can interview anyone.
Two minutes ago we were at jollofinas and blowjobs now were here
Even Jesus the day he comes,while some of us run away,Sol and MacG would appoint with him for an Interview đđ
â@@deesep001 haibo đ
@@deesep001 Hahaha... and Dudu will set it up. You know this!
Sol Phenduka is so important. He is balance. He's a reminder to give respect - that "Uncle Herm" went a long way
Iâm voting for Action SA!! Love this man and his ideologies!!
Please do tell me why you'd do that?
Me too!
1 vote lost
@@SendoSityebi I am perfectly capable of answering your question, and I shall do so as concisely as possible: South A'a will ONLY experience economic growth if South Aa's economy is freed up (i.e. economic freedom). South Aa needs economic freedom and economic freedom is ECONOMIC CAPITALISM or CAPITALIST ECONOMICS. South Aa needs to have a free-market economy to economically grow.
There's much more I could add to this topic, though yous are more likely to read this short paragraph I wrote for yous above.
I really enjoyed Herman Mashaba, but I think that maybe Sol should run interviews like this. You can tell that he is interested in what Herman has to say and Mac G isn't.
Mac G's often-lack-of-interest in our country's social ills (politics) doesn't sit well with me. He's a working class parent with two children who are citizens of this country and they will probably "only" live in this country, but he's forever unbothered. You can even hear how he speaks about voting, and then I think, this is a man with two children who live in SA and still have to live in SA many years from now, how is he unbothered about where the country is politically. What kind of SA does he want his children, most importantly, to live and grow up in.
Guys we're at an age now were us voting isn't for our benefit, it is for the benefit of those who come after us. Hope I'm making sense.
I don't think Mac realise how big this platform is... I see him being interested in other people's dirty laundries and who had sex with who somewhere at the party...even when he talks politics he lacks knowledge of what's going around... The man need to know a lot especially running big platform like this he must do some extra job. Ae Sol is magic the guy knows a lot...
Made perfect sense. You hit the nail on the head đ
Yoh you and me both hey đł. Hayi unokungibhora uMcG sometimes hey đ€đŸ but I do support the podcast for what it did for Sol...
Partially so. The problem is you taking exception to MacG's lack of interest in the country's politics. Are we not supposed to respect his choice as much as he respects your choice of voting for the corrupt ANC over and over again. We (black people) are our own enemy. We know that the ANC is corrupt and has failed dismally to take our country forward, instead of voting them out we opt not to vote (probably because we can't bear the pain of voting for a party other than the ANC - blind loyalty they call it).
For the part where you speak of voting for the benefit of our children and future generations, I totally agree with you that is why I have stopped voting for the ANC. The future generations deserve economic freedom - this can be achieved by the return of the land to its rightful owners: Africans.
â@@danielteme2748 that's why I'm glad we have Sol. He is a great balance for the podcast
Mr Mashaba is really passionate about South Africa
True hey
I would also be passionate if got 23 million from Oppenheimer
@@grandkitchendesigns3319 can we facts, I hate conspiracy theories.
â@@Teeman812 lol he said it himself domkop
@@grandkitchendesigns3319 shut up
So good hearing the "Black like me" story being told by Herman Mashaba. This was covered a couple of years back by the SABC. Think his business partner was the one being interviewed. So inspirational! Thank you for going back to the question MacG! And thank you for having ntate Herman Mashaba in studio!!! Another awesome episode guys! â€đ
Timestamps:
*INTRO*
5:05 Welcome remarks
5:23 Early life
6:39 Being a big Kaizer Chiefs fan
10:23 Selling and Smoking weed
17:43 First job as dispatch clerk
17:55 Second job
19:25 Becoming a commission sales rep
*MARRIAGE and INFIDELITY*
21:20 Married to Connie Mashaba since 1982
22:41 Cheating?
25:31 Societal ill: _SA rape capital, Murder, Drug Abuse, Theft, False Rape Accusation, incompetent Justice System, Child Headed Households_ etc
*BLACK LIKE ME*
31:47 *How Herman started **_Black Like Me_** Brand* with *Joseph Molwanda* and *Johan Kriel* (Chemist and Entrepreneur) in 1984
36:02 Receiving ZAR 30, 000.00 start up capital from *businessman Walter Dube* in January 1985. Paying him back (38;30) instead of 3 years (36:35)
40:30 Selling 3 quarters of the business to Colgate
*DA and POLITICS*
40:49 How he joined the Democratic Alliance (DA)
43:00 *Is Helen Zille racist?*
46:24 Thoughts on the new Joburg Mayor (Kabelo Gwamanda)?
48:55 Game Time
1:00:09 What does Herman think of alliances?
1:02:49 *Julius Malema?*
*AUTOBIOGRAPHY*
1:05:39 Unauthorized book
1:06:52 Book will be out before July 2023
1:09:19 Pun by Sol
1:18:09 How heâd like to be remembered?
1:21:29 Who owns *Black Like Me* now?
1:29:25 Special announcement: *Advocate Judy Lopez* joins Action SA
1:34:04 Iconic John Kani sign out
Thank you
Youâre a legend! đđœ
Dankoâ€
Do this on every episode đ
Thank you so much for this! Do it often đđŸ
Always been a fan of ntate Mashaba. Self made and loves the country. This what we need, patriotic South Africans. Action SA đ
Lol u lot love suffering
@@SendoSityebi don't just make a sweeping statement without elaborating. If you disagree qualify it
We've had Julius (EFF), Mmusi (OSAM), John (DA),Pule (ANC) now Herman (ASA). Get the club owners on the Podcast because after this episode my 2024 vote is going to Action SA. â€. Love this platform
Lol đeish u PPL enjoy suffering
We need gayton McKenzie next
â@@mgcinajezile4689you beat me to the punch đ
You can trust Mac G to bring out the human inside some of the most intense people ,that's why he's the best in the country at what he does
I am fully behind uncle Herm and i am certainly he will eradicate the mess and trauma we have encountered through ANC. I second the notion of enforcing prison laws and investing in the youth of the country, especially when the ANC has tunnelled the traumas of apartheid. I will give him my vote, period. đŻ
Ha ha ha! Gullible.
DA Light.... hai umntu omnya sisilima kodwa uMasha is being funded in Stellenbosch sdenge.... the guy is no politician for god sake đđđđ
The thing with Podcast and chill is that, don't ask any celebrity or politician something which is already in public... so big up to the MacG and Sol.
Action SA ..I like Herman Mashaba .he seems to have the best interests for South Africans . South Africans 1st !!
Sol, thank you for holding this podcast together
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I loved his work , he's not just words am voting Action SA
The point he made about the schooling system making our kids unemployable is really powerful, our people do not have skills to help them survive it is really absurd.
So why are white PPL employed all of yhem
This guy is brilliant, viva Herman viva Action SA. I used to vote DA but his policies are better for the economy.
That's cool
As long as it's not anc
May I ask you what prompted you to vote for the DA in the first place? I guess what I am really trying to to ask is whether there is ever a justified reason to vote for people who think very little of black people?
I am really keen to hear your response in this. I have always wanted to chat to a black DA supporter because it really doesn't make sense for me.
Thank you
Such as?
â@@ronm4385 he will never respond cz even now he just made a decision based on a man speaking about his stories lol the bar is low here
@@SendoSityebi To his credit he did say that he found Action SA policies better than the DA which is very surprising for me because the DA and Action SA policies say exactly the same thing in different ways.
They are both opposed to BBBEE but offer absolutely no alternative. They both want an an open capitalistic free market which will favour those who have and forever keep those who don't have in perpetual bondage.
Yes I do agree with both parties about their stance on the overhaul of our education system. They don't really go into detail about the how except criticising the teacher's union.
All in all the DA and Action SA may potentially run the country better in terms of the lower hanging fruits of governing the country but that's not what the struggle for liberation was for.
Unfortunately a lot of black people have simply lowered the bar as you have so prudently pointed out.
Thereâs only two Men that are making sense and can move us forward,Herman Mashaba and Gayton Mckenzie,very bold,very decisive,clear intentions,they have the people in mind!!
I think Mckenzie gets most of his policies from ActionSA and Mashaba.
It's literally copy and paste.
1. Illegal immigration
2. Putting South Africans first
3. Church (praying) and wholesome families
To name a few.
Mashaba is a trendsetter shem. But it's because he genuinely cares about this country.
If you think Herman will effectively deal with the issue of migration you are mistaking big time.
Go look at why Gayton pulled his name out of nominations to become Joburg mayor
That black like me story is so beautiful †he is such a good business person. As an entrepreneur I just want to hear all those details coz running a business back then was hard
Only way u can do that is to do wat ramaphosa did sellout black ppl
Uncle Herm is all over the place...he's really a politician.đ
Next candidate please
đ đđthis the very comment I was looking for
â@@lentlelekgoa7666 me too
even though he is not a good speaker but he is a man of action
The ones that can speak can't implement. Action speaks louder than words
@@setjhabatsosane5329 love this!!
@@setjhabatsosane5329 yeah good speakers will always trick look at Ramaphosa that man just cant solve any thing
@@thabangmnguni6539 Try giving our minister of electricity a good listen. You'd swear the lights will be back on by tomorrow
â@Deejay Izzy-Iz True.practical people are not good with words, which is why I like him.
I was sold the first time I saw him tearing up over something about Alexander. He is unlike any politician. Heâs a millionaire but still relatable and his authenticity! Viva Herman Mashaba! Definitely going to be voting ActionSA đ
Exactly the same you said about RamaDollar remember.... the guy is a billionaire he will never from the poor look now... we in the dark because of a billionaire đ đ đ đ
Any man or woman that's funded by the white families in this country like same PPL who fund ramaphosa n DA lol surely u must think better than this
â@@familyman5452We're in the dark because he chose his party above the country. Not because he's rich.
That's how Ukraine got themselves a comedian as a president...he was funny and loved Ukraine. Look now
@@simphiweclement4656 What are you talking about? He's fighting for his country. A president like that is rare.
I think South Africans have to vote for this man for a better South Africa, crime is killing this country. You can never hear Mpumulo talking about crime and how to contain it
This guy knows what heâs talking. I love this & I want to believe his vision is what SA really needs
I have huge respect for this guy. I don't think we as the public give this guy the recognition he deserves. A black guy starting a business in Apartheid and turning it into a great success. He was also the best Mayor Johannesburg has ever had. We are witnessing greatness with this legend.
Mc Gee stopped Herman from explaining the distribution channel 101 lecture because he wanted to have the chat privately. Basically stopped a free learning opportunity for the masses. What Herman was trying to impart is gold mine for aspiring entrepreneurs. They don't teach stuff like that even at MBA level.
True I wish to hear that distribution lesson. He needs to write a black like me story as a book into details
@@noziphosibiya6558 People are sleeping on Herman Mashaba's genius because he is not well spoken. The thing about industrialists like Herman is that they are doers not talkers. I cannot wait to read his book.
The business Journey of Herman Mashaba and the late Dr Richard Maponya should inspire young black emerging entrepreneurs.
I remember Herman as joburg Mayor during protests where police were attacked by foreigners when they tried to confiscate counterfate goods,witch are killing our economy. He was there on the ground while other politicians like Malema were calling him names. Everyone especially africans is welcomed in SA, but when they come here they must come legally and obey our laws when here. Our borders must be secured and everyone that goes in and out of SA must use legal entrances only. That will improve security of the country witch is in dire state right now.
You donât obey your own laws, people are being killed in kzn every 30 minutes by South Africans. You talk about borders yet thereâs a tribe of Zulu people in Zimbabwe and a whole community Xhosa people in Mbembezi in Zimbabwe, your shallow mind doesnât even know how those borders got to existenceâŠ.you think all these people migrating do it for the love of migrating, where are you going to run to when things get bad in SAâŠ.Iâm a Zulu and i need to stop people like you cz you messing our reputation as South Africans
Get Zuma to take it to 1 million subscribers
I agree with you đŻ đ đ
That's it right there
Have you seen Zuma lately? đą
Yes
Zuma please!!!!!!
Well, i wish young people could listen more to people like Mr Herman Mashaba... Anyway we're voting ActionSA come 2024.đđđ
I don't like PPL who lie Mina this guy gv someone 12million to write n talk nice about him n lied about it? The leadership of the party is of DA people so how on earth do u love him đ ayi u guys with ur political illiterate are keeping us bk
MacG, Sol&Ghost Lady please get Xolani Khumalo the star and host of Sizokâthola, Would be great to hear his life story, his firm DEA stance on Drugs in our communities.
Gents I strongly recommend wardrobe changes for different episodes. I'm aware that you may shoot 2 episodes in 1 day which is understandable but this could be an opportunity to change outfits and represent many local designers.
Macg's whole personality is being simple, let's not try to change that. Maybe Sol
I get you. A simple t-shirt change for different for different episodes shot on one day.
But we are consuming content and not outfits.
@@marshimello2940 đ€Šđżââïž
@@2scents đ€Šđżââïž
Great interview I'm considering voting for actionSA
Donât white people will never change
Me too
Black Child this is for you, when we are no longer here, remember this day and run with this brilliant idea from the King Mr Herman Mashaba.
Vote action Sa. After listening to you im all yours, Im joining action sa and voting action. You arr humble and u are the future
I really enjoyed this interview , you can see Unkle Herman is so eager to teach and spread his knowledge đ I am behind him all the way , a man that still has morals and values đ
Can't wait to here this man speak... Herman Mashaba really understands the Human condition... he is not about looting and getting rich. Woza 2024... Woza Mashaba
ziyakhala as we are approaching the votes
Take action... Vote Action S A â
BRING BACK THE SCORPIONS PLEASE! đđđŸ I'm ready to vote for Action SA
This is the reason this Podcast will remaim undefeated... You have this ability to bring out the HUMAN side of just about anyone. Mr Herman is actually a cool oak hey
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What a beautiful chaotic interview...one thing for sure Herman Mashaba wears his heart on his sleeve...he is passionate about South Africa and I think he deserves all the support...my thing is...if he can win Gauteng province...or manage to get into a coalition that will make him a premier... Gauteng province will transform. The province is littered with crime, potholes, dirty and I think he is capable of sorting this out.
I will definitely vote for my home boy Mr. Mashaba's ActionSA. I trust he will do yhe right thing.
What a man. Just what south africa đżđŠ needs.
I love this Podcast so much. I'm sitting at my open space office with my earphones on and I am laughing my lungs out much to the curiosity of everyone else kodwa nje angiyingeni shame!!!!. This brings me so much Joy , period.
Mac can always pick up Media/PR Training from the bat! It took him 15sec this time đđđ love it!
I remember when the gautrain was not paying for water and Mashaba switched them off and they paid very quickly
Mashaba doesnt play hey
First time listening to Mr Herman all thanks to podcast and chill. Very wise man indeed!
I like how attentive Sol and Mac g are to Mr Herman
How I supported this man, it's quite unfortunate that he was betrayed during his mayorship. He was doing a good job for Joburg during his tenure. Good to absorb your knowledge sir learnt a lot.
Its funny to me how South Africans keep talking about how we donât have valid alternatives to the ANC when Herman Mashaba exists. This guyâs mayorship of Joburg is everything you want. This is the guy, people. Imagine this guy has president!
Didnât know much about him and I love him đ â€as a father. Thanks to Poscast
Imagine things as the country we could archive if Action SA and EFF could work hand in hand
Let me just sms. This guy deserves my 30 bucks.
Refreshing to listen to a self-made (from the bottom) entrepreneur, that is documented, see fixing this country as another challenge! Feel like sol is asking the questions we all have.
I kept laughing throughout the entire episode đđđ, Uncle Hermza is incredibly funny, umdala UBaba. I saw Sol kept laughing, aiii he reminds me of abomalume during family gatherings, he goes on and on.
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He is not. He is mentally challenged
Exactly he is old
đ€Ł ey so true
Voting for Action SA just makes sense
These old peeps are trying to show us how to be humble, like whenever they come through they come down to our level and connect with us, watching this interview and the guy who made me join the DA at the time, these two different people
Herman Mashaba knew the only place he could do proper damage control after that book saga is on Podcast and Chill!!!
Podcast & chill is ađŁđŁđŁ
But he was invited
@@bongumusamagwaza9878 Yeah right.
I'm voting Action SA.
I don't think thereâs a problem with Herman pushing his own agenda in an interview.
JACOB ZUMA episode long overdue
We need to see the president on podcast and chill so that he can explain the couch issue. Maybe we can vote for him again after the interview.
đđđ yoh yoh they would eat him alive!! I'm sure one of the questions they would ask him would be" where did the nickname cupcake come from"đ
Yoy must also invite Floyd Shavambu to articulate those EFF policies
Mr Mashaba can be the solution to fix SA! Register and vote for ActionSA!!
You are a joke. This guy can't even speak.
Protect Herman at all costs!!
A breath of fresh air.
This is a good opportunity to speak his manifesto
Mashaba is hardcore businessman Salute
How did u conclude that
I struggled watching this episode, took the long road when answering questions..MacG had to bring him back on track coz you give politicians a platform to speak, they will run away with it
I'm voting Action SA
At the age of 24 this guy was woke business wise im 24 im thinking GTIđ but i did learn a lot here what a genius he is rich and low-key no show of nothing
We must Protect Ntate Herman Mashaba đ
"he's not Herman, he's their man"đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Wow Herman Mashaba loves this country, he is not in politics to make money,but make South Africa work for all.
Under the ANC majority of 22 year olds are unemployed,in drugs or alcohol because of depression.
But Mashaba wants them employed and running business, growing the economy of South Africa!
Herman Mashaba's journey is quite inspiration!
I read his first book Black Like Me, very inspiring
Yes he was a spy like Ramaphosa that's why whites love him
âItâs not Herman its their menâđđđđđđđđeish bathong I love Sol
stories from black guys who operated during apartheid are alwayz interesting
Gosh been waiting for this one thank u MacG and Sol
nice
Im definitely voting for ActionSA because of Mashaba
Don't just vote for him, look for what work he have done on the ground to improve the lives of South African, don't just vote just because you like people. I like this dude too but we have to vote for change.
@@bhebhemchithwa6821 im not voting just because i like him. I am a very active member of ActionSA and have seen first hand how much work he has done on the ground and how he is helping peoples lives.
@@treasuremngadi8824 I respect that that bhutiđđż
Iâm voting Action SA come 2024đđđđ, thank you for thisđđđđ
True about 202 guy who lost jobs, 1 of them told me exactly what Herman is saying, gud job sir for opening d case against G4s
I enjoyed this episode.
This is my next President.
Imagine at parliament next EFF saying to Herman tht we dont smoke weed here.đđđđ
I respect him for being real even youngsters can relate to this leader đđŸ
After hearing 'Roadkill' in SA parliament, its definitely bound to happen.
What an informative interview business wise.loved it!
@Sol, I feel you. They missed the *hymen* moment đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
I'm proud of you guys, the question you asked about the book đđŒđ
Guys I'm late....
Just came to drop a like...will be watching tomorrow.
Please no spoilers.
Thanks in advance đ
Bring Gayton Mckenzie next please! Just stop the torture. Or better yet, bring gangsta G alongside Kenny Kunene, that would be an awful lot of fun.
Go and see what he said earlier today about media houses,he said he won't agree to any interviews from now
@@JacobMathejane-ql2rr Oh yes, although Podcast and Chill is home. I think he has a problem with mainstream media with their own agendas.
@@JacobMathejane-ql2rrpodcast is not a media house
Was about to live the same comment, he must really come
Kenny kunene
Please keep this up till we vote bring all in the ballot paper so we can decide clearly
Big up mac gâ€and all guysâ€â€heeeeee ndaaaa vhari min
he's got my vote already
You have my support...i.cant wait!đđđ
when they asked about "slay queens'' đ€Łđđ€Łđhuuuh ngeke ...this one definitely knows slay queensđ€đ€
After a hectic exam week. I will definitely distress and chill here.â€
"What do you think wikipedia says about you"
Herman: "let me tell you this" đđđđ boom Skeem GP vibes
Ntate Mashaba đ€Žđż tells like it is. I hope he wins GAUTENG next year
This man may have just convinced me to look his party's way when I vote next year
They have my vote đłïž
Me too
great interview beside the side jokes about him he is a decent guy worth reading his book very inspiring hey we ar all people there are no saints .. but i believe what he stands for. yet again the podcast doesn't disappoint .. great job guys.. and where does Sol get his info yesses .. great stuff
đđđđMacG dreamt about that surely.I honestly don't know who to vote for in 2024 but definitely not the ANC
đđlike Mac G treated Mr Mashaba like his grandfather
đđđđloved this episode lol
Am waiting to hear MacG's thoughts on Monday about Mashaba