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HUB RINGS - FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- In this video we answer some of the most frequently asked questions about hub rings. Comment down below with any questions you may have and we'll answer them in the next video!
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I gotta give it to you guys. Most people after answering the same question 2 or 3 times would get annoyed but you guys always answer them respectfully and without hesitation.
our dude!
How can I attached hub ring permanently?
mrphiscal why would you want that? If ever you go to sell the wheels, you are limiting your resale but not only that, they are made to be removable. That is why I do not run the metal ones as I find they bond to the wheel or hub after a while.
did it fix?
I think you just fix my vibration !!! I went to check my BBS wheels and measure the hub...yep, definitely need hub rings!!! So I ordered some!! hopefully, that will fix the issue that I have been fighting ( small vibration starting at 70mph ..even after tire balancing)
Super glad it helped!
@@konigwheels yes it did!!!! NO more vibration on my old mercedes W124 400E ( I have had Konig wheels on my old Mazda for over 10 years..they still looked like new when i sold the car)
Question. My rims bore is 73.0 and my cars hub bore is 66.06 but all I could find is a 73 to a 66.1. Will that 0.4 make a difference? Almost all of the ones I see online say 66.06/66.1 and never just the one size.
I am looking for some new wheels. I am looking at some wheels that go from 60.1 (my car) to 66.1. Hub rings seem to have a lip. Do all wheels (infinity QX50) have a recess for this lip? It is a long drive and the person does not know. I can not imagine it is safe to have this gap. Thanks
Will plastic Hub Rings crack when removed and do you have to continue torquing down the aluminum hub rings?
Hey guys, great video, my question is....I had plastic hub rings installed for 1 summer on new wheels. When removing to install winters 2 of the hub rings were cracked thru but a clean break. Can I reuse these rings? Once compressed into wheels they close back up to the original size. Thanks in advance
Ok quick question!! Does the side of the wheel matters because I’ve seen in he video that u guys put the ring inside of the after market wheel?
It doesn't matter. You can either put the hub-ring on the hub or put it in the wheel first. We've found with experience though that it's easier to insert it into the back of the wheel first rather than try to line it up on the hub blindly.
Good to go either way though as long as it's seated properly.
I installed 2006 Toyota Tacoma 17" Alloys on my 2012 GMC Canyon 17" Wheels . I would like to get a set of plastic hub Rings for this set up can you provide them ? Thanks for any help you can provide .
We can try to assist. After looking up your sizing, the Tacoma 17" alloys have a centerbore sizing of 106.1mm and the GMC canyon has a hub size of 100.3mm. You would need a 106.1mm O.D./100.3mm hub ring - which unfortunately we do not currently make.
Question: I brought universal 20in Mazzi 351 hype rims for my 2015 Genesis G80 Rwd. They came with plastic hub rings 72-67 which fits my car but still leaves a gap/movement. What do you recommend?
You may need to replace the hug ring with better quality. Go with the chrome vs not the rubber version
Hub ring does not sit very flush but have a tiny lip. Does that affect the wheel install
Great information. Hi, I have hub center of 64.1 and wheel center bore of 66.1. Do I still need to install center hub ring? Thanks
I want to know as well
Me three!!!
Me also!
That's a 2mm difference. I'd say yes
yes, why wouldn't you?
My pull thru center caps won't fit with hub rings installed, any solutions? Thanks
Which wheel with pull-thru caps are you trying to fit?
I have a 2004 audi a4. I bought 18 inch Audi rims & tires for it, what size hubs rings to a need? originally my Audi came with 17 inch rims & tires
Can i use anti seize on for non plastic hub rings or metal hub rings?
I have a 03 grand am gt after market rims .
Rim specs says 72.62 mm and car hud 70.30 rings i got sent was 72.6 70.3
Still my rims are lose seller says that that the same size but when i tape measure wheel rim hud says 3 in that 76.2 mm cant even find rings that size if specs are right why would rims still be lose what would a bigger size that would help
So I THINK I know what you're saying. It sounds like your issue is the center bore of the wheel. So the ring that they sent you should be way too small and just not even sit in the centerbore of the wheel right? What brand is it?
@@konigwheels they are mpw mp106. 17x7 yea 72.6 kinda kits and 73.1 ti big so hell if i no
What size of hub rings for a honda accord 2012
Hey Kyron, according to wheel-size.com, the Center Bore for your vehicle's hub is 64.1mm. Depending on the wheel you purchased, the Center Bore is usually 73.1mm, but you're welcome to message us on Facebook or Instagram if you have any other questions!
My car's hub is 67.1mm and my aftermarket alloy wheels bore size is 67.5mm... Do i need a hub ring? I often have vibrations at high speeds.
Hi there! That could be the source of the vibration at high speeds as your hub size and centerbore size don't match up perfectly. However, at that little of a difference, it's not possible to make a hub-ring with only a 4mm thickness unfortunately.
Hello guys . Here is one crazy one. Ok i have old motor home with 8.75x16.5 wheels ( 16.5 rims ) .with stud pilot . I want to change to 16 " rims ( more common size tire ) but here is my problem ! i need to convert stud pilot to hub pilot . is there an adapter to change from stud to hub ? Thanks
if i have a spacer that’s separate from the hub ring? will it work?
2024 corolla sedan have 16' original, want to put 17's what size ring should i go with ,thanks
The 2024 Corolla's Hub Size is 54.1mm, so you'll need a hub-centric ring with an inner diameter of 54.1mm and an outer diameter of whatever the centerbore size of the 17" wheel you're putting on there. (You can find that info on the wheel manufacturer's website).
@konigwheels thank you ,great video
You guys forgot to cover how to measure the hub and the bore of a wheel to figure out the right size for hub rings.
Question~so the hub ring with the improved rim is tight fit or just snug?
Depends. With a plastic hub-ring, they'll usually snap into place and fit pretty tight in the wheel centerbore before mounting the wheel. With metal ones don't snap into place like the plastic ones so they won't be tight in there at all.
If you're using metal though, make sure to apply a little anti-seize before installing. (Metal on metal)
Alright, thank you, I'll try it 😊
Do they make these rings for old school Crager S/S unilug rims ?
Hi, could i use hub rings on steel rims. tnx.
Of course you can, no problem there at all.
Hey guys can anyone help me I bought some wheels there the same bolt pattern and everything the only thing is the bore size is different My original wheels size is 66.1 the wheels I bought are 73.1 and the wheel don’t even go in the studs would the bore be the reason they don’t fit ?
Hey Daniel, I'm confused on the second part of your question when you mention "the wheel don't even go in the studs". But generally, you need to be running a hub-centric ring when your bore sizing is different like that. This will ensure that your wheel is perfectly centered on the hub before fastening.
@@konigwheels Honestly I think since the bore size is bigger I was having a hard time Aligning the studs with the wheel lug nut hole and I gave up after 5 min since it was getting dark I ordered the rings for the hub they are coming this Friday so I’m going to try again
@@Daniel-jk9ge Nice, let us know how It goes!
Are hub rings always installed on top of the hub lip, rather than going inside the hub’s hole.? Or can we install them going inside the hub hole? Thank you.
Hey there, thanks for reaching out to us. You can install them on either your vehicle's hub or in your wheel's Center Bore!
I like the aluminum rings just rub a little grease on them front and back they should last a long time. 👍
OD of Vehicle hub is 70.3 mm bore, found hubcentric spacers with 70.3 mm ID and OD bore, crager wheels are roughly 100 mm ID bore. My question to you is... do i get hub rings to make up the difference between the spacer OD centric ring and the wheel ID? or is it safe to use hub rings on top of hubcentric spacers?
Yes! That’s exactly what you would do!
Is it possible to order hub rings based on wheel make and vehicle Make? I don't have a micrometer tool and as you said ... close enough doesn't work. I have VOXX universal rims going on a 2001 Mercedes SLK 320 (R170). I'd like to order them online if possible.
Hi Randy, sorry we missed this. So your Mercedes would have a 66.56 (66.6) hub. You would have to ask Voxx what their centerbore is. Probably a 73.1 but they can tell you that for sure! Then if you want we sell hub rings on our site. store.konigwheels.com Hope that helps!
SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! I have a center hub that measures 63.4mm and the wheel spacers I want to get have a hub at 82.5mm what size hub ring should I get and do I need them?
You answered your own question. 82.5mm to 63.4mm. Then unless the spacer is hubcentric to the spacer you’ll need another set for the wheel. If the spacers are not hubcentric it’s going to cause an issue on the other side of the spacer.
How about size.. if I need a 76.1 to a 60.1.. but can’t find a 76.1 .. can I use a 74.1 to 60.1? I found one seller on Amazon.. no one else carries the 76.1. . But the seller on Amazon, says it will take about one month to deliver and it’s $50.!,! AND they have no reviews! Lol.. what a headache.. by the way.. it’s not my first rodeo with custom wheels.. but first time with this 76.1 hub size on my wheel.
Chino, unfortunately that would be useless. The gap that would still exist would by definition make the wheel not hubcentric. So you can do one of a few things. You can do your best to carefully center the wheel using the lug seat. Try and get something under the tire to make sure it takes the weight off the wheel and tire and you have a better shot at getting it real close. Again this is not hubcentric but if you can get it there without much vibration it may be good enough for you. Next you can buy a bigger OD set of plastic hub rings and ask a machine shop to turn them down yo the 76.1 you need. There is one other hack but not super accurate so I’ll stop here. Lol
Can you use hub rings on steelies?
How come you guys don’t make any 18x7.5 wheels. Most of the wheels you guys sell are 18x8.5. kinda makes it hard for people with not as wide fenders to buy them even though they look super good.
It really is a supply and demand thing. We don’t have too much demand for cars that need narrow wheels in larger diameters. What vehicle is this for?
@@konigwheels I understand. it’s for a 2016 Volkswagen GLI
Can I use a little bit smaller hub centric ring? 75 mm bore rim on a 74.1 mm outer ring? Inner ring is the same 64.1 mm.
Hey MattCee, the wheel will not be perfectly hub centric, so we wouldn't recommend it!
How do I know which size hub ring to buy?
Hi there! Super easy, all you need to do is find out the centerbore size of your car and the hub size of the wheel.
Im looking at a 24” wheel that is a good deal because its discontinued for a Ram truck. The rim has a massive 112.1 hub size . The Truck hub size is 77.8. I haven’t found that exact hubcentric ring size . I have found 112 by 78 . Will that work?
Or where can i order a 112.1 -77.8 hub rings
Hi can I use hub centric rings with a 5mm wheel spacer (non hub centric)? I got kyo ei 5mm wheel spacer, and planning to install hub centric rings on my aftermarket wheels. I'm bothered that it may not sit properly coz of the 5mm space? Hoping for your reply
So there are a few things to consider here and we've spoken about it in other videos talking about spacers / adapters. 1. You ned to make sure you have enough thread engagement (go check that video on our channel). Remember 5mm of spacing = 5mm less of thread engagement. 2. when you use a non hubcentric spacer you need to look at the hub to see how much of the hub lip will protrude beyond the spacer. If you have 5mm or so a hub ring should still be able to be utilized. Just be careful getting it affixed to the vehicle. Hope that helps!
What if you want to put wheels on that have a smaller hub center size than your car?
That doesn’t even remotely make sense to do
What size hub rings do I need? 2022 Silverado trailboss
quick google search says "108mm"
Hey I got 17x9+35 rims what centric rings will fit any help???
Hi, David! You would need to tell us what wheels, and what car you have.
Hey my car center bore is 70.2 and my wheel bore is 73.1 I can’t find hub rings for my car so can I just use 73.1 to 70.3 hub rings?
Most likely. what car is it?
@@konigwheels 2018 Buick Regal sportback
Isbthere a big difference from 73.0 to 73.1 ? I know the number difference but would it make a big difference
Technically there is a difference but for the most part you should be fine.
I have wheels that are 115x5 can I use them on a 114.3x5 pattern car? Thanks
They will bolt on and many, many people do this. However, TECHNICALLY they are not the right bolt pattern. I hope that makes sense.
Just quick question. What if you forgot to remove your hub rings and put your original rims? What will happen?
This wouldn’t be possible. Because your stock wheels are hubcentric. So you wouldn’t be able to get your stock wheel flush to the hub
Any videos on how to measure your wheel hub or wheels to order the right hub ring? I have a 2010 Acura TL bolt pattern is 5x120 running wheels #style95 which is 19inch +24 offset help me out! Thanks
I think we have that, but using a micrometer is really the only way. Your hub size should be 64.1mm so now you just need to measure the center bore of your wheel!
@@konigwheels thanks for replying I measured with a micrometer so I’ll report back once I start test fitting
how di know what size to get
vw t4
Question, my wheel bore is 72.62 but I ordered 76.6... does the 2 really makes a difference?
I'm assuming you mean you ordered 72.6 and your wheel is drilled 72.56? If so you should be ok!
@@konigwheels On the box it shows 72.62mm . The rings I bought were 72.6 minus the 2....
@@1987Miketyson did u figure your rings out having same issue my rims where 72.62 mm and car hub wasn70.30 mm
Rinhs u got sent was 72.6 70.3 and my rims and.still lose
Question: can u use 2 hub rings in conjunction to bring the bore diameter down?
In theory you could as long as the fit was perfect and still allowed the wheel to remain perfectly flat to the hub
@@konigwheels ok thanks!
just get the correct size, they are cheap, why risk it.
How can I send y'all a picture of my hub on the rim ? The gap is like barely anything is that gonna be ok?
Sorry we missed this. You can send us a pic on social media. However why is there a gap at all? You shouldn't have any gap.
Wish I learned this a week ago my after market wheel come off the car while driving lucky was a slow speed no one got hurt but I took that ring out about 3 months ago because I thought it was in the way of my spacers now I know there purpose I feel stupid and saw in the pocket oh it was only that one wheel that I took the ring out of xplains the shakes at 35mph
UGH...super sorry to hear about that. Glad everyone is alright though!
So my center bore is 64.1, my aftermarket wheel bore says it’s 66.2 but can only find 66.1🥲
That center bore is extremely odd. But if you're correct then 66.1 will most likely be tight when in the wheel. Sometimes the bores are opened up by .1mm to allow for minor corrosion on hubs.
Why can’t I find a hub ring measuring 76.1 to 66.9
what car is it?
so the hub and the centre bore of a wheel is supposed to hold the weight of the vehicle not the studs or lugs that why its engineered that way
so does that mean centre ring are dangerous if it can not hold the weight hmhmhmhmhmhmh ???????????????
The wheel is held on to the car and the weight of the vehicle distributed to the wheel by its attachment of the wheel to the car. The wheel is attached through its clamping force against the hub of the vehicle through the fastening hardware. A hub-centeric ring is essentially a dowel pin to allow for the proper alignment of the wheel before it is torqued down.
The hub carries the weight of the vehicle, ever seen someone lose an aftermarket wheel because the lugs sheared off?
Not sure I understand your point. I actually think you just proved that the stud clamping force is what bears the stress of keeping the wheel attached to the hub. The hub lip itself doesn’t
How do you remove hub ring from hub?
they should just come right out. If they've been on there for a while, they may need a bit of force to get em out, especially if they're metal hub rings.
If you know how to put conical lug nuts on properly your wheels will be centered without rings.
it'll be definitely close, but hub-centricity and lug-centricity are two different things.
@@konigwheelsyour probably right but if the lug studs are not centric for conical lug nuts you may have a problem that centric rings aren’t going to fix
Some wheels are designed to be hub-centric, and some are lug-centric. If OEM is hub-centric, then you need hub rings; otherwise, under high load you could snap the lugs/bolts off.
So here's the question, how do you measure for a new ring when your tire shop throws them out cause they're plastic?
I'm asking cause that's why I'm watching the video, thats literally why 50% of us are here
Hey there, thanks for the question. The easiest way to figure this out is to first Google your vehicle's OEM wheel specifications. www.wheel-size.com lists nearly every vehicle on the planet, so you can find your OEM Center Bore there. Once you have that information, you can send us a message on Facebook or Instagram and ask us what the Center Bore is on the Konig Wheel that you have and boom...you've got your answer!
My wheels fell off after watching this vid!
Well I hope you figure out why!
Wrong! Hub rings are a structural item. It assures that the weight of the vehicle is evenly dispersed on to the center protruding lip of the hub, and lug bolts. Hence, the reason you get vibration without them. The rim must rest on to that lip. The lug nuts are also designed to be tapered to secure the rim to the hub centrally, assuring a smooth, SAFE ride, also making it a safety item as well. Remember, anything that holds and disperses weight, is structural. SMH🙄
Samuel. With all do respect we get where you’re coming from but you really think that the 8-13 mm snout on the hub is where the weight of the wheel is supposed to go? The weight of the whee is carried through the studs and evenly distributed through the clamping force of the installation hardware. Don’t get me wrong we want people to run hub centric rings however the reason you get vibration when a wheel isn’t centric to the hub is because of the longitudinal runout that os created. If the weight and force of the wheel was being supported by that small hub lip you’d see the leverage of the wheel take that off with that much force. Furthermore while the term “lug centric” is an old outdated term for getting it close using the seat of the mounting hardware, people long before us did this as standard practice for decades. We appreciate you watching and commenting.
I have a question I just bought rims online they provided me with hubrings they fit just fine on my hub but the hubring doesn't slide into the hole on the rims what's the deal please help? Also one more question is there a way to tell if I have a gap and even need thr hub ring by looking when the tire is mounted? Could I provide you with my rims I bought may be yall could tell me if I even need the rings or not? If you can respond here great if not please email me at nystreeter@gmail.com and I'll give you the info on my vehicle and rims I bought.
TattedUp Tv most aftermarket wheels will require hubrings. If it doesn’t fit in your wheel, it’s the wrong ring for your wheel.
Sorry we missed this! So try putting the hubring into the back of the wheel first and see if that works. Also what car do you have? What size right do you have? maybe you just have the wrong rings? Also what wheel do you have. Feel free to message us on FB or IG and we can help you get to the bottom of it!
total BS.. The wheel nuts CENTRE the wheel on the hub. A plastic or alloy ring does nothing more than hold the wheel NEAR central until you do the nuts up.
When your wheel's centerbore does not match your vehicle's hub size, fastening your lugs on alone won't ensure a hub-centric fit. A hub-centric ring isn't necessary when your wheel's centerbore size perfectly matches your vehicle's hub size.
mine fucking broke in half so uhhh yikes