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  • čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
  • What happens when you install aftermarket wheels and now your car vibrates? In today's video I explain why most aftermarket wheels will need hub centric rings to eliminate vibration. However not all hub centric rings are the same! The aftermarket wheel companies manufacture wheels to fit several brands of cars. So most of the time the center bore of the wheel will be larger than the center hub lip on your car. The hub centric ring will that gap so the wheel rotates perfectly around the center part of the hub on your car. I had a set of hallow plastic hub centric rings and the car had a noticeable vibration going speeds of 30 mph and higher. It was very noticeable and very annoying. It was a constant vibration and a consistent feeling. I even had the wheels re mounted and balanced to hopefully solve the issue. But after swapping the hallow plastic hub centric rings to aluminum ones, the vibration went away. There had to be a lot of flex in the plastic ones and the lug bolts still allowed a bit of movement and created the vibration. With the aluminum hub centric rings the wheels are now perfectly centered on the car hubs and with the lug bolts torqued to spec again, there is no vibration. So make sure if you install aftermarket wheels on your car, have correct high quality hub centric rings to go with them if needed. This drove me crazy and I am glad I learned something new and fixed the issue! Solid polyurethane hub centric rings also work great, just make sure you always have a solid hub centric ring and nothing hallow.
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Komentáře • 166

  • @samgm3618
    @samgm3618 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Thanks for video
    I had exact same issue with a new golf i just bought and got some new wheels, had annoying vibration at 60mph +. I had tires rebalanced and was afraid i had bad wheel, came across your video and was inspired to get solid aluminum rings, it took care of vibrations completely, drives great now
    Thanks again

    • @jvbfamily8613
      @jvbfamily8613 Před 7 měsíci

      Hey got the rings but still getting vibration do u think they didn't balance properly

  • @its.Andy1
    @its.Andy1 Před rokem +20

    Some mechanic shops definitely need to watch this video. Funny. I literally just got new aftermarket wheels installed today and one of the guys that swapped my tires from my Gramlights 57DR’s to my new Konig Hypergrams took off my hub centric rings and said “hey whoever installed your old wheels decided to put an extra center ring on your hubs.” And I was like 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️bruh it’s not extra. They’re SUPPOSED to be there. So I told them to redo it.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem +2

      Oh wow! Dumb guy there for sure 😅

    • @SalimFromATL
      @SalimFromATL Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's unfortunate... Some mechanics just do the bare minimum and want to just get paid without doing extra, etc. Kudos to the ones that go the extra mile.

    • @boost331
      @boost331 Před měsícem

      Waste of money. The konigs are LUG centric and not HUB centric. Using the 60 degree tapered lugs will ensure the wheel is centered on the hub. It is literally impossible for them to not be properly centered if the lugs are all properly torqued. Very few cars need hub rings and it is only those that use wheel bolts or use flat lugs or washers.

    • @its.Andy1
      @its.Andy1 Před měsícem

      @@boost331 dude. You want the weight of the car to be on the hub. Not the studs. Usually the diameter of the bore on aftermarket wheels are larger than the hub. Thats what the hub centric ring is for, to compensate for the different size.

    • @boost331
      @boost331 Před měsícem

      @@its.Andy1 Nope. The weight is never on the hubs. Its there for centering. That is the biggest BS myth that people fall for here. 90% of the hub rings you see people using and even wheel shops installing are made of cheap plastic. You trying to tell me that little piece of plastic that you can crush with your hand is supporting 3000lbs+ off the ground? You fell for it.

  • @user-qv6sk6wy3k
    @user-qv6sk6wy3k Před 2 měsíci +3

    I just had new aftermarket wheels and tires put on my new Tiguan, around 50 mph I got the shakes and went away until around 70mph. After multiple road force balancing from discount tire the issue never quite went away. After watching your video I replaced the plastic ones with solid aluminum and my vibrations went away. Thanks for the video.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 2 měsíci

      Nice glad to help!

    • @TheWorldOfKel
      @TheWorldOfKel Před 12 dny

      Glad I see your post, I'm looking into buying a Tigaun and want to go with the Sparco Terra Rims and it says I need the centering rings. Never used them but looks pretty straight forward install

    • @flyguy081
      @flyguy081 Před 5 dny

      That’s crazy because I have a 2023 Volkswagen Tiguan S and I’ve had some 20 inch wheels and tires brand new with hubcentric rings and a roll force balancing and I never stop the vibration. It has speed around 70 to 75 mph.

  • @steveb8897
    @steveb8897 Před rokem +4

    You literally described all the symptoms I've been experiencing.. got new tires, new suspension, wheels balanced etc, couldn't find the issue and remembered I have plastic hub rings from 15k miles ago. Can't wait to get in there and see whats been going on then replace with metal ones

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      It should make a huge difference for you!!

    • @HPX584
      @HPX584 Před rokem

      Did it fix it?

    • @steveb8897
      @steveb8897 Před rokem

      @PunjabRockstar15 tbh I'm not sure 100% what the cause was, here's why.. when I went to get hub rings replaced, shop found one of the wheels slightly bent. Fixed the bend and with new hub rings, all vibrations went away.

  • @Surveillance-
    @Surveillance- Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this video, this fixed the severe vibration I had on my Lexus GS after getting new wheels. I bought the same ones you linked, installed at discount tire, and solved.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 10 měsíci

      Nice! Glad to help!

    • @istudyyou2130
      @istudyyou2130 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I had the same issue last week I got a 2011 GS 350 Lexus on 22 inch wheels. And my car was shaking. Really bad at 65 miles an hour. Now I can take it to 85 with no vibration.

  • @itsjustjonnoh
    @itsjustjonnoh Před 3 měsíci

    Bro! Thank you for this video.. I just bought some new rims and tires for my truck and didn't even think of this. Just bought some solid ones now before the shop installs my whole setup. I'll just sell the plastic ones. Very great video. Thanks again.

  • @jccnguyen
    @jccnguyen Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your video, you confirm that I made a good call. I put these into my custom wheels thanks to the shop's owner advice, solid alloy ones.
    Never seen those plastic ones by the way.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem +1

      Yeah I had solid polyurethane before and they were fine. But I'd definitely make sure you stick with solid good ones! Crazy how big of a difference it made

    • @804MRMAN
      @804MRMAN Před 5 měsíci

      You'll regret the metal rings. They'll eventually melt to the hub or wheel center bore. With or without anti seeze

  • @kentdold3830
    @kentdold3830 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If you don’t have the rings, just center them with tapered lug nuts. You only need two. Finger tighten both, then slightly tighten. Install the correct lug nuts on the other studs, tighten lightly in a star pattern. Remove tapered nuts, install the correct nuts. Tighten and torque all nuts.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 6 měsíci

      The rings still help. Most lugs are tapered foe a central secure fit. But the solid rings still help prevent vibration

  • @britpoper
    @britpoper Před 2 měsíci

    I agree with what other people have said.Plastic isn't going hold your wheel in place or stop any vibration. They are simply for making it easier to line your wheel up.
    The wheel studs do all the work.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 2 měsíci

      Then how come the vibrations went away going to the solid aluminum ones vs the plastic ones? Also read through the comments. Tons of people installed solid aluminum ones and every one of them said that stopped the vibration compared to plastic ones or not having anything. Why do you think the factory hub has a solid metal lip to correspond the the recessed portion in the factory wheel? The solid connection eliminates vibration.

    • @britpoper
      @britpoper Před 2 měsíci

      It's like mounting an engine with plastic mounts . How long do you think that will last?
      You need steel or aluminium to hold something in place not plastic. I do agree that they make it easier to line your wheel up but that's all.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 2 měsíci

      @@britpoper Yeah the aluminum rings hold the wheel in place perfectly centered while driving so there isn’t vibration. Plastic rings allow some give that the bolts alone can’t 100% compensate for. That’s why the aluminum rings solve wheel vibration

  • @ae101yota4
    @ae101yota4 Před 16 dny

    Hi hopefully someone can answer my questions.
    I bought some aftermarket wheels and they came in with hub centric rings but for a different size of my car my question is how can I remove the old ones and replace them with the correct ones for my car ? They’re attach to the wheels do they just pop off ?

  • @rongz1114
    @rongz1114 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Other videos on hub rings , they recommend plastic hub rings cause aluminum rings require anti seize or some kind of treatment before installing them so wheels won't be difficult to dismount when you eventually need to rotate or change tires. What say you?

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 7 měsíci

      That could be usefull. However I've never had issues. I'll be taking the wheels off the S3 to put the car back to stock for sale, so I guess I'll find out if anything like that happened since I installed them lol

    • @804MRMAN
      @804MRMAN Před 5 měsíci

      This is correct! It's not a one time thing either when applying antiseeze, that's where the problems come if you don't have a competent mechanic/ shop you deal with.

  • @ForestCounter
    @ForestCounter Před 2 měsíci

    How would it be possible to mount the wheels off center, when using the correct bolts for the wheel?
    How can the hub help center the wheel, unless it's a press fit?
    I can't deny your experiences. It just doesn't make sense to me..

  • @michaelheffelfinger5086

    I think the main cause is simply the buyer analyzing the quality of the machining finish of the rims when they arrive especially universal rims. I just went through this and let me tell you from a distance (1') away they look great but the machining is rough when you look at the suff you dont see. My car did the death wobble between 49-55 mph and higher omg it was scary. I got the rings and it fix the issue perfectly. I took the center caps off the rims and every time they were off center to the main hub. The rings made sure it couldnt move at all now its smooth as butter. For 10 more $$ for plastic ones its def gonna be your fix.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem +1

      The plastic rings let the wheels wobble. Not enough rigidity in them. The Aluminum rings solved the wobble issue since the wheel couldnt move up and down. The pressure was no longer on the lug bolts. Metal ring took it and fixed it

  • @shamimurrohmanali5032
    @shamimurrohmanali5032 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Just ordered these got the same car. Same issue. I hope this sorts it. Got the hollow stupid plastic rings. Getting vibration. Hope the metal rings sort this issue.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yeah this should make a big difference!

    • @shamimurrohmanali5032
      @shamimurrohmanali5032 Před 7 měsíci

      Honestly, mate, big up to you for sharing this. Changed mine to the mental spigot rings, and it has sorted out that annoying vibration. They need to ban them plastic hollow spigot rings. Don't even know why they make them. Thanks mate, anyone reading this with the same issue, buy them metal spigot rings. Sorted the problem out immediately!

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@shamimurrohmanali5032 Glad you got it solved! Yeah I don't know why anyone make the hallow plastic ones. They don't work. The solid polyurethane ones are good too. But not cheap hallow ones

  • @joe7528
    @joe7528 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Hope you put Anti seized on the rings cause steel on the hub and aluminum rings will fuse together

    • @joe7528
      @joe7528 Před 9 měsíci

      @user-lb9st8li1i I'm afraid i will learn the hard way as well on the plastic rings or having to replace the hubs cause i never put rings on to start with and it's been about four years when i put aftermarket wheels on

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 9 měsíci

      I know my Supra has aluminum hubs. Cant remember if these are aluminum or not. But good point!

  • @LimitLess-545
    @LimitLess-545 Před rokem +1

    good info! Even though its short it was great!!

  • @TheCd5apple
    @TheCd5apple Před 4 měsíci

    I’m having the same issue and have the same plastic non solid ones , ordering me a set like yours and praying it gets fixed 😪

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Should fix it!

    • @TheCd5apple
      @TheCd5apple Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed if I get them here tmrw they are going on right away , I will let you know asap

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 4 měsíci

      Nice!

    • @TheCd5apple
      @TheCd5apple Před 4 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed brother thank you so much it’s fixed !!!!!

  • @jorgeguerra8045
    @jorgeguerra8045 Před rokem +1

    I bought some aftermarket wheels from discount tire and they forgot to install my hub rings I didn’t find out till after I took it to four different stores discount tire stores purchased new tires had a control arm and brakes replaced and finally my mechanic said hey your missing centric rings 3000 miles later boy was I pissed after a round trip to Denver from Houston it was a rough ride WATCH OUT FOR DISCOUNT TIRE PEOPLES

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      Wow that's crazy! Yeah I learned a lot about wheels with these. Makes a huge difference. Wheels feel heavy too when the rings aren't proper

  • @anthonygutierrez6184
    @anthonygutierrez6184 Před 7 měsíci

    I just got new wheels for my Audi A4 but I need to buy this I just don’t know the measurements that I need

  • @AntLive29
    @AntLive29 Před rokem +1

    Good information my guy!

  • @StreetDrivenDaily
    @StreetDrivenDaily Před 5 měsíci +1

    do they need to be replaced every year or so ? had to get those for my GTR as i run rohanas aftermarket wheels. solved all the vibrations.....

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci

      I wouldn't think so. We had these on for 2 years and they were still nice and tight

  • @jay2F_
    @jay2F_ Před 2 měsíci

    I’m looking to hopefully buy some aftermarket wheels next spring but I’m kind new to this how will I know what size hub rings to get that will fit with the wheels I buy ?

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 2 měsíci

      Just look up your cars stock hub size. Can measure it too. I just measured these wheels center bore to figure out the size I needed. They are cheap, so if you have to buy two different sizes if you're unsure. Not the worst thing

  • @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel
    @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Před 8 měsíci +1

    Fitment sold me the hollow plastic ones for $15, tried them and still wobbly… I ordered some aluminum ones on Amazon for $10. I’m hoping this fixes it.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 8 měsíci

      You should be good! The plastic ones are no good. Unless they are solid polyurethane

    • @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel
      @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Před 8 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed no i believe that they are the same ones you had. Gorilla brand, plastic but hollow in the center. So annoying to have to remove my wheels again but I hope it will be the last time. Thanks for the help!

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah would definitely stick with solid rings

    • @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel
      @RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Před 8 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed I put the aluminum rings on and helped a lot. They were also less expensive than the plastic rings .
      I was only able to hit 100mph but it felt solid for the most part. I did get some anti-seize and put a little on during installation so that should keep them from corroding. Thanks again for the advice! 👍🏾

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 8 měsíci

      @@RichsRantMMAofficialchannel Nice! Glad to help!

  • @daveisraging1346
    @daveisraging1346 Před rokem +1

    I just got after market wheels and I installed them with plastic hub rings and I still feel vibrations going 60mph +, do you think that aluminum hub rings will solve this issue, thank you.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      I'd definitely try them! The link in this video has several sizes. Make sure it's the right size and try. Definitely a noticeable difference from the plastic ones I had to these aluminum ones.

  • @DrSpaghettiLegs
    @DrSpaghettiLegs Před rokem

    Really hoping this fixes my GTIs wobble never even considered the hub bore diameter when diagnosing this issue for like 3 years

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem +1

      Hope so! Just make sure you get the exact fit. Any bit off and they won't do much. So get the exact to the tenth of a millimeter and you'll be good

    • @DrSpaghettiLegs
      @DrSpaghettiLegs Před rokem +1

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed it worked! I can finally enjoy driving my car again

    • @imaplayeryolo5623
      @imaplayeryolo5623 Před rokem

      Pray it fixes my issue 😂

  • @manuelOrtiz-lh1iy
    @manuelOrtiz-lh1iy Před rokem

    I just got 22s for my Colorado from Audiocity USA they send me three types of centric rings but one fits right on hub but won’t go on rim the large goes on rims perfectly but loose on hun with out smaller so would I have to use all three together or use two different one

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      You can only use one ring per wheel. Might have to order on Amazon or something. Measure the diameter of the cars hub and the diameter of the wheels hub. Click the link I put in the description. They had a bunch of sizes

  • @Sinz_-fl9nj
    @Sinz_-fl9nj Před rokem

    I just ordered the plastic ones 😢 but when i get my next tire rotation ill put the aluminum ones on...

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      If they are solid polyurethane you'll be good. But the hallow plastic ones are nearly useless. Definitely go with aluminum to make sure things are perfect.

  • @mootsa3
    @mootsa3 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If I were to get hub centric rings would I be able to use spacers? The spacers I bought are only 4mm.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci

      Your wheel spacers should be hub centric then if they are that small. Are they just thin disks?

    • @mootsa3
      @mootsa3 Před 5 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed They are but they have a small indent within the center ring so i’m not sure if that means they are hub centric

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci

      @@mootsa3 Interesting. What brand are they? Do they fit snug on the cars hub? And does the cars hub stick past them to lock into the wheel?

    • @mootsa3
      @mootsa3 Před 5 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed They are apr and I have not even test fitted them yet.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci

      @@mootsa3 That’s a good brand. You’d think they are good then. Test them out and see if you have any vibrations. Do you have longer wheel bolts? If needed

  • @barbercvo_19
    @barbercvo_19 Před 5 měsíci

    I put new aluminum hub rings exact side and new set of tires and balanced and it still had slight vibrate. Do you think it’s the rims. ( the rims are brand new

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Could be the wheels themselves, suspension or hubs. Try your stock wheels if you can to know if it's the new wheels or the car itself

  • @skmk3900
    @skmk3900 Před 10 měsíci

    I don't understand why mechanics aren't using it.
    Also auto parts shops like AutoZone advance O'Reilly
    ...etc they never have in stock

  • @vi2official145
    @vi2official145 Před 3 měsíci

    Is there a certain brand I should get for a Honda civic

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 3 měsíci

      They just need to be the correct size to fit snug on your cars hub and wheel hub

  • @coltuppal
    @coltuppal Před rokem +3

    They used only for alignment. After the nuts are tightened they do absolutely nothing

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      I wouldn't agree. How do you explain why the car vibrated without them, and then didn't vibrate with them? It keeps any and all flex away from the wheel bolts and keeps the wheel centers while rotating.

    • @coltuppal
      @coltuppal Před rokem +1

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed its because when you use them the wheel is central so no wobble but when you didnt use them the wheel was off centre because the alignment wasnt done. its the same as a clutch aligning tool. BTW this isnt my opinion its a fact

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      @@coltuppal The alignment didn’t change in this video. Alignment was done previous to the video. Only thing I changed in this video was the rings and them alone made the wobble stop. These hub centric rings make it to where the wheels didn’t vibrate anymore while driving. Makes them centric to the hub vs lugs. So for people with aftermarket wheels. It’s wise to have solid rings to make for a smoother ride then without.

    • @coltuppal
      @coltuppal Před rokem

      im talking about aligning wheels on your studs

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      @@coltuppal ok got it. However explain how driving without the centric rings made the car vibrate. And once the rings were installed, the vibration was gone. It’s because they hold the wheel perfectly aligned to the hub. The whole point of the video is showing how you need hub centric rings on wheels that have a larger hub then stock. And that the rings eliminate vibrations.

  • @fredjones5327
    @fredjones5327 Před rokem

    I have the same symptoms on my Tiguan but I cannot find solid aluminum hub centric rings for 57.1, I have after market 20” wheels and it’s just says 57.1 cb

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem +1

      Did you click the link in the description? You should be able to find one on Amazon. Just need the wheels bore and your cars hub bore

    • @fredjones5327
      @fredjones5327 Před rokem

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed yes I did but on Amazon it’s has 57.1 to another bore size or the other way around, where I bought the wheels it just says 57.1 cb size…

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      @@fredjones5327 what’s the bore size on the wheels? And what’s the size of the hub on your car?

    • @fredjones5327
      @fredjones5327 Před rokem

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed bore size on the wheel is 57.1 on the truck I do t know I’ll find out

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      Take a measuring tape and measure the outer diameter of the hub on the car, and then the diameter of the hub on the wheel

  • @mikelee9608
    @mikelee9608 Před 3 měsíci

    I have the ring still doing it !

  • @jamilmcintyre3178
    @jamilmcintyre3178 Před rokem +1

    when you mean vibration did this also mean seeing your steering wheel shake crazy?

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      Yeah is wobbled a bit. Not that much tho. Car felt more like I was riding over consistent bumps in the road. Like the whole car would bounce up and down. If I put my head on the head rest, it would bump my head forwards and back

    • @tonydacosta4575
      @tonydacosta4575 Před 10 měsíci

      yea mines is crazy i bought wrz wheels for my golf and we have the same bolt pattern but different offset and it shakes crazy at times then its normal at times so i definitely need a hub centric ring

    • @Fvcyoupayme
      @Fvcyoupayme Před 10 měsíci

      I just changed my brake pads and rotors and now my steering wheel shakes. Mechanic possibly lost one of my centering ring but never knew such a thing existed. Now I have to double check because I even balenced my wheels 3 times

  • @clarkkent9634
    @clarkkent9634 Před rokem +3

    The rings do not bear any load.
    They are simply for lining up the wheel correctly.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      It's not about taking the load of the car. It's about taking the vibration out. Clearly there was a difference from the plastic ones to the metal. When from the car vibrating to driving perfect. So having them a dense material makes a difference

    • @clarkkent9634
      @clarkkent9634 Před rokem +2

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed I get tired of hearing how if you don't use rings, all the weight is on the studs.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      @@clarkkent9634 But technically that’s true. The pressure of the lug bolts is what’s holding the wheels tight. The rings alleviate it and absorb any vibration that the studs can’t handle. They clearly make a difference. Only explanation for why the car vibrated without the solid metal ones.

    • @stonecold274
      @stonecold274 Před 3 měsíci

      Weird that no one has a definitive answer to this argument...have heard both sides and both are convincing. I have a problem if the hard plastic rings dont work, bc i refuse to put metal rings on the hub.

    • @clarkkent9634
      @clarkkent9634 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed The RINGS DO NOT SUPPORT ANY LOAD WHAT SO EVER.

  • @3DS__Gamer
    @3DS__Gamer Před rokem +1

    Is that what real is? I though it was the tire quality. Danm 🤭😲

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      Yeah the hub centric rings make a difference! The tires are 2022 build date and Michelin. So it’s not them

  • @boost331
    @boost331 Před měsícem

    Almost all modern cars use conical lug nuts and if the wheels are torqued on properly there should be no need for any centering rings.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před měsícem

      Then how come there are tons of comments of people who found vibration with aftermarket wheels and hollow plastic rings and then saw vibrations eliminated with the aluminum rings? That was my experience, so clearly the lugs bolts alone don't always prevent vibration. Why else would the stock wheels and hubs have the hub centric design?

    • @boost331
      @boost331 Před měsícem

      Likely improper installation the 1st time. There are a few things that can cause that. If the lugs are not torqued properly or in the correct pattern the wheels may not sit flush. If there is rust\crud on the hub surface, the wheel may not sit flat. Cheap plastic rings are exactly what they sound like. They can be poorly manufactured making them uneven or wear\warm over time and temp changes. After high school I worked at a tire\wheel shop for a few years. I would never recommend hib rings to anyone unless the car used flat lugs\washers. Some people insisted on them cuz the internet said so though. Never had a car come back. Of my own dozens of modded cars, I have never used them either. My BRZ has Anovia wheels and my mazdaspeed 3 has Konigs on them currently. Both have a giant wheel bore and no hub rings at all. I believe what you found is that aluminum rings worked better than plastic in your case. My point is that you dont need them at all.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před měsícem

      @@boost331 I’ve tested this several times on my cars tho and even slowly tightening each bolt in a star pattern to spec, still found vibration. The center hub needs to seat perfectly or there can be vibration. With the metal rings it takes all the guess work out and never have issues

    • @boost331
      @boost331 Před měsícem

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed If it works for you, so be it. No harm in it..... Usually. I have seen the aluminum rings oxidize and fuse themselves to the steel hubs making for a nightmare to get them off. I cant explain why the hundreds if not thousands of cars I put wheels on including my own have never had an issue with no rings at all yet some have these problems. 🤷‍♂️
      Your typical 60 degree conical lug nut (tuner lugs) ride along the taper in the wheel forcing each stud into the center of the hole. Being off center is what causes vibration so something went wrong somewhere along the way.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před měsícem

      @@boost331 the cars I’ve done this on all have aluminum hubs. But for those with steel hubs, so anti seize grease would be beneficial.

  • @pedrocols
    @pedrocols Před 11 měsíci

    After keep going back to get the car balance 5 times, they finally told me I needed hub centric rings...geez....

  • @tauseefchauhan845
    @tauseefchauhan845 Před rokem +1

    what are those plastic ones? so i don’t get those lol

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před rokem

      They just came separate with the wheels. Definitely stick with either solid polyurethane or aluminum. Hollow plastic is garbage. At least these metal ones are cheap

  • @Dismemb3r
    @Dismemb3r Před 4 měsíci

    be careful if you have steel rims, and use aluminum hub rings as they seize over time

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah that's be good. These are all aluminum for me

  • @abnervaldezestrada3167
    @abnervaldezestrada3167 Před rokem +1

    Hi

  • @phottomatt4202
    @phottomatt4202 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I don't think these are actually needed if you install your wheels with a little care. The lug nuts will actually center the wheel for you if you wobble your wheel while you snug up the lug nuts. The wheel gets off center because the mechanic isn't taking the time to do it correctly, they just drive the lugs on with an air gun and don't pay attention. There's nothing wrong with using them, I'm sure it makes it easier but if you take your time and install the wheel correctly you don't need them.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 8 měsíci +2

      No you still need the rings. I put these wheels on and I always slowly snug bolts in a star pattern. The metal hub ring further keeps them centered. I've done this on many cars. And since I installed the wheels each time, the same way, how else can you explain why the vibrations went away with the rings installed and came back with the rings removed? The rings makes the difference

    • @TokyoHomes
      @TokyoHomes Před 5 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed​​⁠I always use It hub centric rings, few years ago mechanic forget to put It hub centric rings and my car was vibrating so when I re do it with It hub centric rings no more vibrations.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@TokyoHomes yeah they make a difference!

    • @TokyoHomes
      @TokyoHomes Před 5 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed 100%

  • @DSI99
    @DSI99 Před měsícem

    urban legend. aluminum rings carrying car weight? go and learn your physics mate. when the stud are properly made you should be able to rotate those rings in place because they can not carry any load.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před měsícem

      Then why did the solid metal rings eliminate the vibration when the hollow plastic ones didn't? The lugs do hold the wheel tight. But there is still some vibrations that the bolts alone can't overcome. Solid rings add that extra solid base to the hubs to keep things perfect

  • @vector150
    @vector150 Před 7 měsíci

    so I have twied 4 different pairs of plastic rings and 4 different pairs of metal still a vibration. Wheel hubs replaced, cv shafts, control arms inner and outer tie rods. But rides smooth with factor wheels. Been using the rings konig said i need. Not Iw ill having the wheels balanced with out the tires mounted.

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 7 měsíci

      Dang that's weird. Has to be a bent wheel or poor balance

    • @vector150
      @vector150 Před 7 měsíci

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed I will post here later what my findings are when they try balancing it without the tire on the rim. I'm hoping it's just a belt in the tire

    • @BrosFOURRSpeed
      @BrosFOURRSpeed  Před 7 měsíci

      @@vector150 Yeah hopefully you get it dialed in!

    • @vector150
      @vector150 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you very much for the reply and inwill update later

    • @Muklolan666
      @Muklolan666 Před 7 měsíci

      Had the same issue...either your tires or your rims. Do you have any curb rash on the rims? They could be slightly bent. Tires also make an incredible difference. I had cheapies on and they would vibrate at high speed and make a lot of low speed noise. Swapped out the rims and the tires for some good bridgestones along with solid plastics hub rings and she rides smooth as butter now. Good luck!