Cheater vs. Cheater!

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  • čas přidán 4. 09. 2024

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  • @GothamChess
    @GothamChess  Před rokem +812

    The first 100 people to use code GOTHAM with the link below will get 60% off of Incogni: incogni.com/gotham

  • @papesldjnsjkfjsn
    @papesldjnsjkfjsn Před rokem +3551

    this is like your 100th video about two cheaters playing each other... and i'm gonna watch every second of it

    • @yareyaredogze6084
      @yareyaredogze6084 Před rokem +54

      @@DagonFrazer bot

    • @DatFrogGuy
      @DatFrogGuy Před rokem +25

      @YeaMan noooooooooooooooooooooo your not a bot

    • @reyne2077
      @reyne2077 Před rokem +39

      @YeaMan thats what a bot would have said

    • @youtubeviolatedme7123
      @youtubeviolatedme7123 Před rokem +9

      @YeaMan Regardless of whether you're a bot, self-promotion is eye-roll worthy.

    • @F-35BLightningII
      @F-35BLightningII Před rokem

      @@DagonFrazer Bruh, youtu.be. Really. What the fuck

  • @zachjost1236
    @zachjost1236 Před rokem +2696

    Very bold of you to assume they are cheating before taking into consideration just how powerful a good gaming chair is, Levy

    • @skagenpige88
      @skagenpige88 Před rokem +28

      Well that would be random.....unless he is being payed to advertice a gaming chair o_O

    • @Hifivemaster_
      @Hifivemaster_ Před rokem +126

      @@skagenpige88 it's a meme for gaming, when someone is cheating, it is common for a joke to be that they have a better (insert gaming accessory that really does not mean much). This could be the gaming socks that were viral, or as said in this comment, a gaming chair

    • @skagenpige88
      @skagenpige88 Před rokem +30

      @@Hifivemaster_ Oh, thanks...ive missed out on that meme.

    • @sadsatisfying6942
      @sadsatisfying6942 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Hifivemaster_ does not matter much?

    • @L3gend_G5
      @L3gend_G5 Před rokem +2

      True true good point

  • @bryanpaguay1197
    @bryanpaguay1197 Před rokem +4800

    I started loving chess because of Levy.

  • @niklasreiman8995
    @niklasreiman8995 Před rokem +216

    Can we just appreciate the fact that these guys get 98% when cheating but Hikaru can play 100% honestly.

    • @Lion-eb3tz
      @Lion-eb3tz Před rokem +6

      He can’t play 100% but he can play like 94%

    • @restinginpeace--8876
      @restinginpeace--8876 Před rokem +23

      @@Lion-eb3tz he actually got 99.8% even tho he chose not to play the best move at some point cuz he said "that would probably win on the spot" and he didn't want that

    • @Jeyserhatesyou
      @Jeyserhatesyou Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@Lion-eb3tz no he played above 99% whd so did magnus. ( a lotta engines even say it's 100% , but top stockfish god says it's 99 pr more)

    • @user-pt2el1tt1r
      @user-pt2el1tt1r Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Jeyserhatesyou Top stockfish what? It's an engine

    • @posadist681
      @posadist681 Před 14 dny

      @@user-pt2el1tt1r hello

  • @zilkyy3111
    @zilkyy3111 Před rokem +67

    levy has truly masterd the ways of youtube.. not only is he entertaining but he also teaches at the same time.
    Now thats the way to do it

  • @mariansimon1007
    @mariansimon1007 Před rokem +2881

    it's so hard for me to resist skipping the sponsor when the video is the only thing i'm payinf attention to
    but for papa gotham we sacrifice

  • @blaxai6485
    @blaxai6485 Před rokem +806

    I love how its technically just 2 engines against each other which is boring in itself, but levy always turns copper into gold

    • @RekhaDevi-iz3os
      @RekhaDevi-iz3os Před rokem +24

      He can alter Atomic Structure

    • @RekhaDevi-iz3os
      @RekhaDevi-iz3os Před rokem +9

      Also just violate some couple of basic laws of physics

    • @PMARC14
      @PMARC14 Před rokem +63

      It isn't just two engines, its also two players trying to play coverup aswell which spices it up a lot more.

    • @Person01234
      @Person01234 Před rokem +23

      2 engines isn't necessarily boring especially if you spice it up by throwing in unconventional openings and unconventional moves in there. Engine games are "boring" in that you can play 10,000 games and like 99.99% of them are going to be straightforward draws but when there's an interesting one, they tend to be entertaining because the engine will make move after move that makes no sense to a human but is actually good at a higher level than any human is thinking at.

    • @sunderkeenin
      @sunderkeenin Před rokem +6

      Part of what is so interesting is just seeing the different engine strengths, as they don't necessarily play to the full strength of the engine even if they're calculating at a depth which should offer higher strength, or if they're calculating at higher depth they're taking top moves of a lower depth version of the same engine by trying to sandbag, for example.
      Cheaters playing cheaters is more interesting than plain engine play because of stuff like that.

  • @thatverseguy
    @thatverseguy Před rokem +263

    Dude really could have made a movie out of that 2nd game lmao. It was just that crazy and only Levy could convey that so well

  • @carsongxd
    @carsongxd Před rokem +48

    Whenever you feel bad about your play, realize that at least you are not a cheater. These “players”, if you could even call them that, can’t even play a game without bot assistance. I’m proud of you, 500 rated player.

    • @frankjaeger760
      @frankjaeger760 Před rokem +1

      I've beaten human 2500+, and lost to bot 1000. The whole thing (online elo) is a fraud. I've played games where 800s make 0 mistakes, blunders and 1 inaccuracy. I only still have my subscription because trial ran out and they auto charged. Will use it to learn the book fully but then I am done if this isn't sorted.

    • @carsongxd
      @carsongxd Před rokem +4

      @@frankjaeger760 good!

    • @fluffymunnyman
      @fluffymunnyman Před rokem +1

      I’m into 450 but gracias

    • @had0j
      @had0j Před 10 měsíci +1

      thank you

  • @jegannathS
    @jegannathS Před rokem +9

    That was the most accurate description of a chess cheater i have heard from anyone ever. The game is so addicting and not always so rewarding, making people resort to cheating. That was the most accurate one and levy you couldn't have said that one better.

  • @slordwastaken
    @slordwastaken Před rokem +160

    It's crazy how big chess has grown because of this man. Thank you Levy.

  • @aldocort3418
    @aldocort3418 Před rokem +937

    Today's stare didn't t feel like a stare. It felt like a bigger brother Tryna knock some sense into us. You da man Levy!👊

  • @Sparkzh2o
    @Sparkzh2o Před rokem +13

    “Two cheaters going toe to toe” is funny enough by itself.
    But then he hit us with the “And then cheater 2 played another cheater a few games before that!” Had me laughing harder than it should have.

  • @MrSimpsondennis
    @MrSimpsondennis Před rokem +11

    I'm too low elo to understand most of these reasonings and moves, but I just love the passion you bring the story with.

  • @Alex-ix9kc
    @Alex-ix9kc Před rokem +126

    Levy is so entertaining I really watched the whole sponsor💀

  • @Youssef-z7i
    @Youssef-z7i Před rokem +14

    "I'm going to be so sneaky"
    -Cheaters, 2023

    • @Da_Dev
      @Da_Dev Před rokem +2

      Get milked and humiliated infront of millions of people for content
      -Levy, 2023

  • @pianopiccolo4111
    @pianopiccolo4111 Před rokem +16

    Wow. The sheer intensity of the game and Levy's commentary during the 2nd game were spectacular. Such a great entertainer.

  • @richardlynch9549
    @richardlynch9549 Před rokem +3

    15:30 sounding like my dentist after I've been a little irresponsible for a while lolol

  • @The7thAz
    @The7thAz Před rokem +19

    "Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary"

  • @materysakcz1995
    @materysakcz1995 Před rokem +65

    I started loving levy thanks to chess

    • @hana-ov1ju
      @hana-ov1ju Před rokem +26

      bro I lost braincells trying to understand this 💀

    • @jalensos8982
      @jalensos8982 Před rokem +5

      Lmao i switched levy and chess in my head when reading, had to double check due to the other comment

    • @chrisdonnell7200
      @chrisdonnell7200 Před rokem +1

      Technically probably true tho

    • @Abinav_08
      @Abinav_08 Před rokem +1

      Whaaa

    • @shashankshekhar6952
      @shashankshekhar6952 Před rokem +2

      ​@@jalensos8982 I realized I was reading it wrong after reading your comment lol

  • @gian-marco6047
    @gian-marco6047 Před rokem +13

    I haven't played chess in years but I'm so happy that a game like this still has severe cultural relevance, even among the youth

  • @littledeathmark8991
    @littledeathmark8991 Před rokem +2

    Both of the cheaters be like: Aha! I was expecting that move

  • @harrypotter4806
    @harrypotter4806 Před rokem +9

    I still remember those days when Levy use to be angry for having no sponsors now every video has big sponsors behind them. This guy has grown tremendously.

  • @erlinghaaland3444
    @erlinghaaland3444 Před rokem +4

    Cheater 2 must have had the strongest and fastest chess engine known to mankind coz mans got 98% accuracy playing every move in 2-3 seconds
    or maybe its magnus in disguise

  • @Maros554
    @Maros554 Před rokem +14

    Thank you Levy for uploading a video today so you could give my dopamine receptors another hit.

  • @cmGolfer
    @cmGolfer Před rokem +127

    Thank you Gotham for Producing so much stellar content, time to go smash that like button!

    • @Ccsmo
      @Ccsmo Před rokem

      ​@YeaMan you should !!!! YOURSELF right now

    • @cmGolfer
      @cmGolfer Před rokem +2

      @YeaMan u r a bot

    • @cmGolfer
      @cmGolfer Před rokem

      @YeaMan respond to
      My comment if you are not a bot with any other comment besides what you bot

    • @b8rek
      @b8rek Před rokem

      🤖

    • @kevinchen5167
      @kevinchen5167 Před rokem +1

      @@cmGolfer True as it is, you can't just drop the most unoriginal and unrelated to the video npc ass comment and then try to call out a bot. Far as I see it your attempt at like begging is arguably more botlike than yeaman

  • @IWontBuy-RP
    @IWontBuy-RP Před 12 dny

    "This move, best move, I dont know why"
    Same..

  • @jazzmouse2498
    @jazzmouse2498 Před rokem +1

    This video is essentially just watching two computers play each other

  • @warrenfeng1570
    @warrenfeng1570 Před rokem +8

    GREAT VIDEO LEVI
    btw I rly appreciate all the chess help you've given me for the past couple years and through Covid when I started to play more

  • @jarpo64
    @jarpo64 Před rokem +72

    Amazing stare, your eyes looking down thoughtfully was beautiful. 9/10

    • @thememedealer1
      @thememedealer1 Před rokem

      Just beautiful.

    • @blast7700
      @blast7700 Před rokem

      i agree
      the look in his eyes was great 9/11

    • @OG-YT
      @OG-YT Před rokem

      Absolutely stunning as always.

    • @DagonFrazer
      @DagonFrazer Před rokem

      *Link to the clip : How to get bots banned*
      czcams.com/video/CVQ_qhyodP4/video.html

    • @yareyaredogze6084
      @yareyaredogze6084 Před rokem

      @@DagonFrazer bot

  • @swaggermcgee726
    @swaggermcgee726 Před rokem +24

    "Great Video Levi"
    Also won two games of chess earlier today because of your videos!
    You're a great resource!
    Keep it up, and thank you!!

  • @joeutm212
    @joeutm212 Před rokem +2

    Instead of banning them they should be forced into servers where they only play other cheaters, that’d be great.

  • @yulingzheng8841
    @yulingzheng8841 Před rokem +1

    When Gothan runs out of ideas he doesn't steal from other people, he steals from himself.

  • @disruptor6550
    @disruptor6550 Před rokem +8

    That was a hilarious video. At the same time it's pretty sad to see that so many people cheat in online chess. Sadly, it's only wishful thinking that they'll ever go away.

  • @tyrantishrl
    @tyrantishrl Před rokem +20

    Thank you for being such an informational teacher to all of us when it comes to chess. I began learning chess more and more because of you

  • @potatoes3513
    @potatoes3513 Před rokem +86

    levy is such an amazing creator. Only someone such as levee could make content like this with such enthusiasm every day. Thanks Leveigh for your amazing contribution to chess!

  • @HotRat00
    @HotRat00 Před rokem +4

    The reason why levy is so fun is because all the emotions he can show while talking about chess 😂

  • @Ayush-zs3kf
    @Ayush-zs3kf Před rokem +2

    Computer vs Computer could be boring ..
    But when levy farms cheaters..
    There's nothing better than that 🗿🗿

  • @ElGravy
    @ElGravy Před rokem

    You play your pawns in a line because you cheat, I play my pawns in a line to roleplay a wall of pikemen; we are not the same.

  • @darkaquatus
    @darkaquatus Před rokem +3

    I actually learn quite a lot from this. Like the way you should think out lines of attack and strategies and how to stick to them. It's kinda funny to see how a computer will ditch any attack ideas immediately the moment something minor changes on the board.

  • @micha9240
    @micha9240 Před rokem +8

    Your courses make me good at chess and I only wanted to thank you for that.

  • @dfbhsdfh4399
    @dfbhsdfh4399 Před rokem +9

    Great video Levi! I was expecting something else in that tab... not an easter egg ;) I was looking for copper and found gold

  • @chesscrush
    @chesscrush Před rokem +2

    11:50 you forgot to mention that if black decides to take the Queen after Qe7 exd7 is checkmate! Yeah white saw all of that after he played Qd5 of course 😂

  • @infinity1281
    @infinity1281 Před rokem

    11:53 that is so sick... black can't take the queen because pawn takes bishop is a smothered mate since the black queen is also pinned by the rook

  • @JoelGDDSweden
    @JoelGDDSweden Před rokem +6

    The stare today was something special. It gave me a certain feeling inside. Like i have been empty inside up to this moment. Thank you for this stare levy. 9/10

  • @c4n0vsk1
    @c4n0vsk1 Před rokem +8

    Hey Levy! I love your videos, please keep up the good work and give us more quality content!

  • @marmalade6332
    @marmalade6332 Před rokem +6

    Day 2: Levy you are an absolutely incredible teacher and the ONLY reason I have gained 200 elo in the past week is because I watch your videos, thank you so much 🙏

  • @Red_Salmond
    @Red_Salmond Před rokem

    Cheaters should install an electric collar, when they cheat, they get shocked until their heads melts.

  • @ducks125
    @ducks125 Před rokem +1

    11:41 queen back to e2 and onward was the moment i lost benefit of the doubt for the cheaters, i thought maybe they could just be insane at chess but nah the rest is to crazy

  • @rafaeltrajano4065
    @rafaeltrajano4065 Před rokem +5

    came back to chess because of this guy
    I'm still bad but it's still fun hahaha
    much love from brazil❤

    • @DanceofKings
      @DanceofKings Před rokem

      Hey Bro come to my channel
      youtube.com/@DanceofKings
      I need your help!

  • @usshaaa
    @usshaaa Před rokem +64

    I love all the work you put inside us

  • @ponyboy6802
    @ponyboy6802 Před rokem +4

    Youre the reason ive gotten into chess lately. Love the content

  • @AhimtarHoN
    @AhimtarHoN Před rokem

    19:44: "F4 - mistake! Why? Because of that move." while black moved an absolutely irrelevant pawn one square ahead was comedy gold lol

  • @konradd7052
    @konradd7052 Před rokem +1

    11:50 the Move e6 is crazy
    It isnt possible for black to take the white queen because pawn to d7 would be mate

  • @dylan_1313
    @dylan_1313 Před rokem +8

    Loving these vids! Keep up the amazing work!

  • @megaminerm499
    @megaminerm499 Před rokem +5

    Hey Levi, for Cheater vs Cheater games, how did the cheaters take 1-5 seconds per game. Don’t they take 5-10 seconds since they have to put in the moves, let it calculate and then do the move?

  • @zacharywoolstenhulme5614

    Am I the only person that thinks we can learn more from studying cheaters games than we can from studying bots playing each other?
    P.S. congrats on the award Levy, you deserve it

    • @s_ame1135
      @s_ame1135 Před rokem

      Is there a difference?

    • @zacharywoolstenhulme5614
      @zacharywoolstenhulme5614 Před rokem +3

      @@s_ame1135 absolutely. Knowing what a bot plays against a bot is essentially "perfect theory " Knowing what a bot plays against a human teaches us "perfect play"

  • @Scribzee2nd
    @Scribzee2nd Před rokem

    Just imagine one of the cheaters watching this video and being like: Ohhh, that's why I was supposed to play that.

  • @foadmoalem4908
    @foadmoalem4908 Před rokem

    i love how a “game” my parents put me in a class for has exploded in popularity recently and thanks to that i now use the sentence “HE SACRIFICES, THE ROOK!” randomly for no reason

  • @guillaume6399
    @guillaume6399 Před rokem +6

    Thank you Levy for the work you do ❤❤

  • @Youssef-iu8dn
    @Youssef-iu8dn Před rokem +7

    Your videos are amazing Levy! Don't stop and ride the wave!

  • @dantebrown6692
    @dantebrown6692 Před rokem +4

    Todays stare seemed distracted and impatient, perhaps Levy has dinner plans and needs to wrap this video up quick. It made me feel cheap yet reminded me Levy is a human and I'm not entitled to his enthusiasm, despite this rushed stare he still decided to bring us top notch content and that is truly commendable and displaying of his unwavering dedication. 10/10

  • @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm-a
    @qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm-a Před 9 měsíci +1

    They're not cheating. They've just got a good gaming chair

  • @thediamondcasino1978
    @thediamondcasino1978 Před rokem

    The cheater who lost must’ve been like “HES A CHEATER”

  • @ob9896
    @ob9896 Před rokem +43

    Todays stare was curious, surprising and fairly arousing. Keep it up Levy

    • @Opraissuu
      @Opraissuu Před rokem +2

      🤨📸

    • @ob9896
      @ob9896 Před rokem

      @NTE I NARUTO¿ hello mister

    • @ob9896
      @ob9896 Před rokem

      @@Opraissuu what you taking photos of?

    • @najimi41
      @najimi41 Před rokem

      "arousing" 🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸🤨📸

    • @ob9896
      @ob9896 Před rokem

      @@najimi41 can a girl not be aroused by a man?

  • @ninjazshadowop
    @ninjazshadowop Před rokem +4

    When you get 415k views in under 10 hours, that's how you know you got an honest audience.

  • @user-bq2ue9fi4s
    @user-bq2ue9fi4s Před rokem +5

    c'mon Gotham that GM title is in sight, we are all rooting for you.

  • @shuomao7869
    @shuomao7869 Před rokem

    It's impressive that those cheaters are so bad that they couldn't realize how ridiculous their moves are. Like a kindergarten kid showing off how they solved a 2nd order nonlinear PDE by hand.

  • @Catvinity
    @Catvinity Před rokem +1

    *67 Excellent Moves*
    *95 Best Moves*
    *43 Great Moves*
    *17 Brilliant Moves*

  • @Yp8000
    @Yp8000 Před rokem +6

    Today's stare is a 6/10 intimidating but not looking at the camera truly an interesting moment in the chess world.

  • @pandaboi156ahuman6
    @pandaboi156ahuman6 Před rokem +8

    I just want to say how much I appreciate your content. Todays stare was 10/10.

  • @h3role691
    @h3role691 Před rokem +5

    Great video levi! Keep it up man!

  • @leozett4135
    @leozett4135 Před rokem

    12:21 IT feels Like the Football or soccer Kommentator in Levi broke out😂

  • @colbert6122
    @colbert6122 Před rokem +2

    It's pretty interesting to see how one cheater can use like 7-10s seconds on each move, whereas another only needs like 1-3s

    • @Eznid
      @Eznid Před rokem

      That's probably because one is a true cheater while the other was actually not

  • @khigaming125
    @khigaming125 Před rokem +6

    Todays stare was heartwarming 10/10

  • @LeniconDev
    @LeniconDev Před rokem

    This is like beyblade. It all comes down to the better beyblade setup to win for you.

  • @legomaker87
    @legomaker87 Před rokem

    My new favorite quote "What does he play?... Of course...TOP ENGINE MOVE!"

  • @nchess1044
    @nchess1044 Před rokem

    I'd like to see a series where two cheaters cheat deep into the middlegame and then we drop them off their engine and force them to play on their own and watch the hilarity ensue.

  • @_elomala
    @_elomala Před rokem

    0:00 bombastic side eye criminal side eye and then the enchanting stare into the soul

  • @Mmm_Chezburgerz
    @Mmm_Chezburgerz Před 4 měsíci

    As someone who gets more inaccuracies than best moves, getting 1 would be a remarkable achievement.

  • @colethetroll03
    @colethetroll03 Před rokem +1

    Cheater 2 should've underpromoted to a rook at the end of the last game

  • @flasher2154
    @flasher2154 Před rokem +1

    15:34 when the special ed kid is asked to count to 5

  • @runningonempty9980
    @runningonempty9980 Před rokem

    One cheater to another: "You know the rules, and so do I"

  • @taylorbrown661
    @taylorbrown661 Před rokem

    My favourite moves are the ones where Levy's like 'idk man, bots be botting'

  • @Darko1.0
    @Darko1.0 Před rokem

    Levy checks the account of every opponent he loses to, to see if they're cheating because he cannot accept the idea that people are better than him at chess.

  • @dominicquick5698
    @dominicquick5698 Před rokem +2

    The French defense mittens variation

  • @Baskmtball
    @Baskmtball Před měsícem

    We need to have a chess tournament where you have a week to make a chess bot and then everyone plays each other with their bot

  • @nightone9720
    @nightone9720 Před rokem

    I love Levy so much 😂 "King moves cause top engine move....." These cheater videos are my favorite because Levy explains every move in a way where he states human logical thinking but then shows what the cheater did and it's obvious that there is no human logic behind the moves being played.

  • @fuooo8653
    @fuooo8653 Před rokem

    "and he sacrificed THE ROOOOOK top engine move"

  • @Kitchencrittergaming
    @Kitchencrittergaming Před 2 měsíci

    Him: folks its 2023 me: what do you mean its 2025

  • @zonevizor2952
    @zonevizor2952 Před rokem

    Video idea:
    Random chess player: inner levy give me tips
    Levy: sacrifice the roooooooook!
    Random chess player:ok
    Wins game

  • @bobbobert9379
    @bobbobert9379 Před rokem

    I remember seeing a dude during a flight shamelessly cheating at chess. But not even with a traditional engine, but by playing the moves as the opponent on his MacBooks chess program vs its engine.

  • @connor9024
    @connor9024 Před 8 měsíci +1

    (For context, I’m not very good.)
    When I was in the 400 elo range, I played against a cheater who let me get up like 10 points, started cheating, beat me and trashed talked me being bad. (I know, how do you do that? I’m bad and back then I was worse.)
    I honestly couldn’t think of anything more unsportsmanlike than that person playing an amateur, cheating to win, then trash talking the amateur. What a garbage person I’m glad they were banned.

  • @maroxmusashi
    @maroxmusashi Před rokem +1

    Sometimes I play a grandmaster level game and the other game I play like shit it depends on my mood

  • @danielchristopheralojadori5413

    Hikaru staring to the right while Levi looking at the left.

  • @jaydatta2464
    @jaydatta2464 Před rokem +1

    Good catch but how in the world can engines calculate that quickly in blitz? Like 3seconds for a move? Wouldnt it take them that long to change the engine board? Or have engines gotten that good now (or is it just low depth)

  • @Im_SuperNova
    @Im_SuperNova Před rokem

    11:39 I think knight to f3 was better here since it defends the rook and attacks the queen

  • @flawles3893
    @flawles3893 Před rokem

    "What happens when an unstoppable cheater meets an immovable cheater?"

  • @georgebloch6927
    @georgebloch6927 Před rokem +1

    Bro got an accuracy if 98.6
    A funny number if you know the temperature in degrees Fahrenheit of a certain something…