Experimental Silver Cell
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2023
- Experimental Silver Cell #silver #refining #electroplating #sterling #metal
See the inner workings of an electrolytic silver cell. The unique design of this cell allows you to see the ion transfer as it leaves the anode bottle and plates out in fascinating style as pure silver crystals. This method of electro refining (when repeated) can produce the highest purity silver, equaling or exceeding 999 fine.
To create the electrolyte, I dissolved 10 oz of pure silver coins. I pour the electrolyte into a 5 L beaker, but it’s the aspirator bottle that steals the show. The aspirator bottle can be tricky to find but does exist. The hard part is finding a bottle that has a 24/40 opening. When the bottle is used as an anode basket, the entire cell becomes see through and allows you to view things never before seen on CZcams. The only thing that blocks your view is the stainless steel cathode that collects all of the pure silver crystals.
The video, Refining Sterling Silver - The Best Way, including cleaning out the silver cell will be out this Friday.
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Excellent production values again! If you were wondering, yes it's definitely worth the effort. This is an interesting installment, I am not familiar with zirconium refining so it's time to learn something new. That cell is well thought out and easy to monitor. We get to see more of your very nice shop here, it looks like you also do cabbing. That is a sturdy bench peg! I had to watch this video twice to really get a handle on your process and appreciate your quality of fabrication and design. Being thorough and patient pays off in the results.
Thank you for the kind words.
Hello. Arne from 🇳🇴Norway here. Bless you🙏
What a stunning clip sir.
Thank you kindly! more to come...
I love the basket you got going there. And the project overall too.
Beautiful
FYI, they make a zip tie tool, you don't need the large metal version they have small plastic versions for a few bucks. They do work well. Just thought I would let you know, for many years I was not aware of the tool but now I use it all the time. Excellent video. You must have a ton of glassware.
Great idea! I will give this a try. I have been incredibly blessed with finding used glassware on facebook marketplace. It doesn't come around often but when it does it's usually a great bargain. Thanks for watching.
Very cool. I like it. I'll have to give this one a whirl.
nice!
Thank you!
It's like miracle of nature....😮❤
So glad "the algorithm" brought me here and not to the usual clickbait. With production values like this you'll have thousands of subs before you know it.
I apprecieate the encouragement. Tell all your friends!
Very cool! I see ion flow also when I make copper sulphate by electrolysis!
Thank you, actually seeing the process take place is pretty awesome!
Ide yang sangat bagus , sukses selalu buat chanel nya
Thank you!
Awesome job on the video
Thanks! Glad you liked it.
great music
Thanks, my wife will be happy to hear that. She helps me with production.
I like term electrode harness
Very nice, you're vote is in! Thanks so much for watching.
“It’s illegal to destroy us currency” 😂🤣
What happens if there is nitric in it left over when smelted?
LOL!! There destroying it for us! - I would either add more silver first to consume the nitric or you can boil it off before smelting. Just reduce your solution down until there are no more fumes. Use high heat to drive off the nitric. If there is a large excess of nitric I would add HCL to produce silver chloride and convert with lye and sugar. HCL will convert all the nitric. If you are using copper to plate out the silver, excess nitric will just eat up your copper before it neutralizes and starts plating out the silver, which also works fine if you are keeping your copper!
Thanks so much for watching! God Bless
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Thank you so much! I have some pretty unique material coming up. Stay tuned...
Love the videos so much fun to watch. I live in canada and we can't buy nitric acid here is there anything else i could use for the electrolyte?
Nice vlog, new sub here
Thanks for subbing! New content coming soon.
Well thought out design. Beautifully, done. Where did you get the 98% silver shot. I assume you made it, but from what? Did you do a rough purification of sterling? Also, where do you get your nitric from?
I'm considering making my own from NaNO3 pearls & concentrated H2SO4. Just ordered a distillation apparatus. I have been reverse plating silver plated flatware. Have about 2 ozs. of silver from the process. Perhaps, it would be a good candidate for purifying with an electrolytic silver cell, such as yours.
Hi Michael, thanks for watching! I did dissolve 925 sterling in nitric acid and then cemented it out on copper. This resulted in approx. 98.1% pure silver based on my rinsing technique. Tested on XRF.
I buy my Nitric from Lab Alley.
@@monadnockgems Thank you for that info. I didn't realize that cementing out on copper would contaminate the silver with 2% copper. Good to know. Perhaps the lye and sugar method really does yield a more pure result. I will look into Lab Alley as a source. Nitric is just so expensive, though.
Hello Anthony, fascinating video... I have never seen ion flow... Good idea that flask in a beaker, no risk of slime fall down into crystals. As I do not have as much silver, I was thinking about submerse 50 ml beacher (to catch slimes) into 400 ml beaker or into some kind block shaped vessel, also using stainless steel as kathode, but anode I want to try solid piece instead of silver shot. Slower, no doubt, but I am not in a hurry. Also I want to have a possibility to harvest crystals from kathode continuously, I do not know how yet. Surprise for me is 10 volts, I was adviced to use 3.5 Volts (Sreetips) to avoid copper to be reduced with silver, may be it is just caution, may be this cell design is OK with higher voltage.
Anyhow, great video again, God bless...
Hi Frantisek, I pray you are well! Thanks for watching. I plan to run a series of tests before I make any claims on this design but I can tell you a couple things I found out while running this experiment. Initial findings...
+/- 5 voltz @ 0.5 amps made dense crystals
+/- 7 voltz @ >0.75 amps started spikey crystals
+/- 10 voltz @ >1 amp caused sulfiding
Cleaning - I scraped crystals off right in the beaker and turned it back on. I lifted up the cathode and the crystals fall (get scraped) to the bottom of the beaker raising electrolite level. I lowered the cathode right on top of silver and turned it back on. Cell is getting same results. I plan to run it until the levels get to high and then completly clean it out.
May all your days be blessed.
Also, your idea for a smaller version will absolutely work. The basic design, I believe, is less dependent on volume of electrolyte, as it is the area of cathode / concentration of electrolyte. That equation (I'm testing) seems to make a greater difference in output. Distance of cathode to anode seems to play the largest role in the relationship between voltz and amps. The closer they are the amps go up and volts stay steady, and the inverse is also true.
Where can these aspirator bottles be purchased? I cant find any small enough with 24/40 openings. I feel this basket setup would produce cleaner silver crystal as the slimes would be collected in the bottom of the bottle and have no chance yo seep into the crystal. Also prevents the crystal buildup from touching the content of the anode basket. Anyways awesome video! I am now a subscriber.
Hi it’s so great plan for harvesting please tell me about electrolyte how much pure silver it does need for start refinering how much gram impure silver?
I dissolved 300 grams pure silver in nitric acid and then added enough distilled water to make 2.5 L electrolyte. You want your electrolyte solution between 75g/L to about 200g/L. I typically go about 125g/L and this electrolyte will dissolve many kilos of 925 silver.
Did it short out?
Send Sreetips one of these would love to see you two collaborate.
Me too! Sreetips is the "godfather" of online metal refining. I learned a lot by watching his videos.
@@monadnockgems kinda noticed you might be a Big Stack fan too with the cardboard under the crucible moment. LOL
How to find out much nitric acid is needed to dissolve how many grams of silver??? Please let me know, thanks!
Approximately 1ml nitric to dissolve 1g of Ag
Great minds think alike. I'm still in the process of setting something like this up, but I have a similar mindset wondering if/how you can effectively use the waste stream as an enrichment process using the refinement of other materials. Makes me wonder if the reason you're showing and telling us all this is because it's already a failure or is expected to be. Or maybe your not a modern-minded -asshat- engineer hyperfocused on industry stealing your ideas. Either way and hoping you share, it'll be interesting to see the results.
I would say this is the most interesting comment I have recieved so far. Thank you and good luck with your project. I will say this... I encourage everyone and anyone to use my experiments in any way they see fit. Although I do encourage everyone to always "think and pray" as well! I am not in this for the credit or the money although at some point I will have to turn a profit to continue my research. The experimental silver cell worked better than expected in many ways and all of my tests are ongoing. I will have upcoming videos with honest results, success or failure. Your idea about enrichment is close in nature and does play a role in why I did built this apparatus. For the record, I am doing this because all the actions in my life have simply led me to this point. Please continue to watch and you will see how some of the things I do here tie together in the end. Thanks for watching and God bless!
You're in Wisconsin can I learn from you?! My honey is from Sheboygan we go there once or twice a year
Let me know the next time your going to be in my neck of the woods and I'll buy you a cup of coffee!