Which is better? Beretta 92G Elite LTT vs Beretta PX4G-SD
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- The Beretta PX4G-SD is the successor to the Beretta 92 - in theory the more "duty rated" gun - but the PX4 has largely been unsuccessful in unseating the 92 in the holsters of many. So we shoot them head to head to see how it goes.
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I've got both and have run both at a LTT class. I'm much 'better' with my 92 and prefer it but everyone there was loving the PX4 especially with the new PX4 comp attachment.
You think it’s the grip or the added weight of the 92 or something else that makes you better with that over the px4?
I also prefer the 92 over the PX4. I just shoot better with it. But I still love the PX4.
@@ZensivYT The G10 grips I have on my 92's keep the pistol planted in my hand from the draw and that's half the battle. My 92's are roughly 6 oz. heavier than my PX4 but I don't think the weight is the factor because I shoot my P30 LTT's better than the PX4 and the P30 is lighter. I've shot all the new (2024) LTT PX4 demos (including comped) down in AZ and I still prefer the 92 model over it.
I absolutely love the 92's, have several to prove it and carried one for many years. The 92XC with the aggressive wrap-around grip is my favorite. Now having said that, I've bought a couple of PX4C over the past few years and fell hard for them. When I bought my first one, no one seemed to know they even existed, but once in a while you would talk to someone who did. Those people would light up and smile because they owned one also. I felt like I was in a strange Beretta sub cult, and it was my duty to get the "good word" out to the masses about the salvation, joy and love that could be had with the addition of a PX4 storm to their lives. Yes even the striker fire fan boys and girls with the Sig and Glock tattoos. Mr. Langdon has worked his magic and really done some truly amazing things with personally testing this handgun and given it the love and mods that he has given the 92. I hope one day I can send my skateboard tape PX4c edc to them to get a real trigger job done. BTW, Seriously, you need grip tape for these things. A friend recently shot one and said his golf balls have more texture than the PX4 grips do... When he said this I didn't hear the word "golf" the first time. It was a odd conversation.
I just got the LTT px4 g-sd and the heavy barrel is noticeably less recoil than the regular px4. To me where the 92 comes out ahead is mag availability and holster options. From a shooting experience I think the px4 gsd is ounce for ounce a better platform
It’s a you-pick-em kinda head to head. What I find amazing is that the 92 after almost 50 years is still relevant and in the conversation as is the Storm, albeit only after 20 years - what’s amazing is its new found celebrity thanks to LTT and the renewed efforts of Beretta. Maybe loosing to the ziggzauer refocused that Italian talent !! Mostly a beretta upland fanboy (so I’m already leaning that way) It’s getting harder and harder to not buy a storm for myself. Great vid as always
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I love both guns. I think the PX4 with grip texture added is a better shooter.
I haven't tried the GSD.
Great video! hope you'll have more content on these two!!
Wonder how the Langdon PX4 stacks up against the Xcalibur by Grand Power.
They are both exceptional. The PX4 is more composed and suited for defensive use. The X-Calibur is a race gun pure and simple. Incredible trigger and accuracy on the X-Calibur. While they are similar in concept and design, when you run them it is very clear that they are intended for different purposes. If you are at all curious, you can't go wrong with either.
This is becoming my all time favorite CZcams channel. Its just so much realism, no fluff, dad content and as a dad getting into shooting and concealed carry, im all for it
Great video. Thanks for the honest content
There's something magical about the PX4! Glad I don't have to choose between them and only need to upgrade to the GSD. Great content and great shooting - as always!
Thanks for this great comparison and go video! I really have interest in both of these but feel more sure of getting the LTT px4 gsd even though I prefer metal guns generally. Keep Dad-ing hard thanks for the content.
The Dad life continues.
Dude you've gotta try the Wilson combat mag guide for the 92. Gives it that sort of mullet grip you liked on the PX4, and it helps a little with the reloads. Plus it just looks cool. I've got one on my Langdon 92G RDO and I love the thing.
As a european guy I can just salivating watching you enjoy these LTT handguns 😪😪
You'd get something pretty similar if you ordered the regular versions available in Europe, and then imported the "trigger in a bag" package that LTT offers for both guns. Especially if you chose the ones with an optimized performance trigger bar. Obviously, you'd need a competent gunsmith to install it.
@@johnnyguitar6697 I had thought about sending my gun to an armorsmith for having the slide milled. And import the parts as you said,
but this is almost impossible to import the LTT parts because everything concerning weapons ar not alowed to importating as long as there is nothing "official"...
At least, LLT should make their parts/kits allow to be sold in european market. They can make a lot of money they would be very successful here. Because I know a lot of people who would like buy their parts too
Any LTT is amazing imo and Beretta keeps using the vision of their tools. I frequently comment on any PX4 video that Beretta really should update the PX4 line... Function, even in base form is amazing and the rotating barrel is game changing for my use. A refreshed v. 2.0 would really help and hopefully it would get the due it deserves.
Wilson has a mag well funnel chute for the 92 to make the 92 like the PX4. The chute protects the back of the palm, so the palm does not get pinched. Simple pin on piece. Put one on my 92 and cured the hand pinch problem.
Fun video. I have wanted to like the PX4 for many years and it just never happens. Full blown love my Elite LTT 92 pistols. For polymer DA/SA I prefer the CZ P07 & P09.
I’d say try the PX4 SD 45 acp first before you buy. The grip is very large.
The decocker levers are wide and sharp. Plan on replacing them. Langdon sells better ones.
I bought the single action trigger used on the 92XI and converted it to work on both of my D/A 92’s as a straight trigger. I love the way feel. Even with the different feel of the serrated trigger. Add the fact they both have the LTT trigger bar. It’s awesome!
I have the ltt px4 cc and the 92x centurion with ltt trigger job and and slide. Both are a pleasure to shoot. Just added the Vantage Point comp and flashlight. The px4 cc shoots so smooth and flat. Can consistently shoot mid 90s on the hat drill and in slow fire will hold a 10 ring group at 25 yards.
I have to agree that both are fantastic options. I still would tend to favor the 92. Appreciate the perspective and experience. I have carried large frame revolvers and full size 1911s and other larger metal frame guns in the past. My EDC is a full size M&P 2.0. I am inclined to believe I would faithfully carry a 92 like this. But that PX4 seems like the sweet spot for carry. I should get both and find out. Well done. Many thanks.
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Very interesting comparison . I definitely prefer shooting my 92gsd but the px4 compact is a lot handier.
I'm waiting to get off of my hitch to try my LTT PX4 G-SD with the VP rail comp, which is waiting at my FFL. I liked the original PX4 FS, so I have reason to think I won't love the LTT version. I'm interested in trying out an LTT 92, though.... especially after watching this. I'm lucky to live in AZ, except the whole border thing
I have 1 - 92 and 3 pPX4 storms -- which one's do you think I like the most
Great video
Would be cool to see a companion between the LTTpx4CC and the LTT92centurion!
I'll probably never get a LTT pistol, retired and 70, I absolutely love my 92X RDO Compact, i may look into a new full size PX4, I'm intrigued by the rotating barrel. Here's the thing, these pistols NEED night sights and/or fiber optic front at the least, I'm talking stock, Sig can do it, I know Beretta can, that's the only negative I have with my 92x, that "high visibility" front sight is anything but.
I had the LTT 92 was not impressed. Have the old PX4 carry love it
I have the Langdon Px4. I’m saving up for 92GTS that’s coming out. It seems like a legit 92FS replacement.
3# SA and 6.5# DA on the GTS, sootch has a review of it up.
Yeah same. The trigger seems so good on the GTS that no upgrade needed. Some people don’t like the way the safety feels in recoil but small number of complaints on that.
I’d want a LTT ported and the comped version of the Storm.
The LTT Elite grips are nice for carry but they lack grip traction and are actually rather slick. I got some grippier options from VZ and the gun feels like it's stuck to your hand and you don't need as much grip strength to keep it on target. If anything, the PX4 probably felt nicer to shoot for you simply because of the rubber grip tape on it which gives way more traction than the nice lookin but slick LTT grip panels.
The PX4 rotates less than the 92 - regardless of grip traction - the PX4 needs it less
I have at least one each of all the Beretta pistols, including the original APX which I like, but nothing shoots better for me than a 92 with LOK Veloce grips
The thing about the 92 is that nothing truly beats it save a 2011. I'm sure that whenever you've added some Veloces and a magwell, you're good to go. With that said though, the PX4 is the best hammer-fired carry gun on the market.
it's hard not to love the PX4.
What about if you’re a grand dad? I don’t run as fast as you do, but I appreciate all your words, your time and your opinions. I’ve never owned a Beretta, except a highly modified 1301 Tactical shotgun. Best Regards.
What are you using for an apendix holster for the PX4?
I have a .40 PX4...I wonder if it will be possible to convert to G-SD?
I like the PX4 but you really have to get the LTT version for it to hold up against the 92. Still no factory optic cut, polymer frame with no grip texture. If you fix that by getting the LTT version then I've found it to at least be on par with a stock LTT 92. There's still further customization you can do to the LTT 92 that makes it an even better shooter. It's simple to get a ported barrel, doesn't change holster compatibility. You can get whatever grips/grip texture you want. I like lokgrips brass grips.
Most guys i know with PX4s bought them when they were on blowout 10 years ago.
I'll probably own both, but I got the 92 first simply because of mag availability. Whether it's practical or not, I like availability of 30 round sticks that are made by Beretta and not promag or some other off brand
I like both. I have a 92 compact in the carry rotation, the holster options are superior to the PX4. The PX4 compact is a better carry, the holster is so-so.
Definitely prefer the PX4 for CC. Both accurate as hell. 92 works best as bedside and range gun.
Have you done a review on P30 LTT? Just not interested?
I prefer the 92 series and my LTT 92G RDO is my favorite pistol, but even with the limited trigger time I’ve had on the PX4 (not the G-SD, but rather the LTT carry and the full size normal) I can say that I think it is the better platform for speed and malfunction clearing (although I’ve never experienced a malfunction with either). If I had as much practice with the PX4, I’m sure I’d shoot it better than my 92s.
I think probably you need both. I am still having a chuckle about the dad joke from the last video. "Are we pyromaniacs? We are son"
Please get a p30 LTT I want to know YOUR thoughts on it
Beretta should do a slide redesign to add better red dot mounting capability.
Choosing between the Beretta 92G Elite LTT and the PX4G-SD is like deciding between spaghetti and sushi - both great, just depends on your mood... and your holster! 😄
The LTT 92 looks so much better, that’s more important than anything.
they are stupid handsome guns.
Do 92 mags work with the px4?
Great review.
No
At 9:00 your math seems off. Same alpha Charlie but faster times with the px?
Mr humble outdid himself with this comparison
Im actually surprised that the PX4 with the rotating barrel is still around. When they first came out it was all you could to keep one working.
They figured it out
How do you reckon the PX4 compares to Grand Power's rotating barrel offerings?
The GP stuff is nice. Pretty comparable. The stock triggers are pretty good
More grippy grips!!!!
Thoughts on comps on compact guns? Wouldn't it be simpler to carry the next size up? Or have compact frame with longer slide. Glock 19 comp vs glock 17 vs glock 17 comp vs glock 34. Can someone even comp a glock 34?
Comps definitely give you A LOT more recoil control than simply going a size up. However there's a lot of caveats with going comped. There's different types of comps and some are much better than others. The comps themselves require more cleaning, you gotta keep an eye on them to make sure they don't start coming lose, and because they take away some of the energy that would normally be used on the slide to reciprocate and work the action... it can lead to reliability problems if one day you're using lighter loads than whatever you've calibrated your recoil spring and comp to. Yes you can comp a G34 as I have done it. However, it makes the gun too long and unwieldy, the best I can do is modify Glock 34 holsters to allow the comp to protrude from the bottom of the holster but I haven't found a single holster either OWB or IWB for a comped G34. And trust me you don't want to reholster a comped gun with the comp sticking out that you just shot a magazine with unless you want some nice burns in your leg or groin area.
Most people comp the G19, because once it's comped it ends up roughly the size of a G34 to put it into perspective. So a lot of people end up using G34 holsters to carry a comped G19.
Personally I wouldn't recommend a comp for duty/CCW because it makes the gun very loud. A normal 9mm magdump can give you permanent ear damage, doubly so for inside a car indoors. The comp makes the gun extremely loud and increases your chances of extreme hearing damage or quality of life damaging tinnitus (ask me how I know).
Is the added recoil control worth it to deal with all those downsides? Well that's entirely up to you to decide. The way I look at it, I see how good guys like Bob Vogel and Gabe White are with pretty much stock Glocks, so practice takes precedence over gadgets and gizmos. Good luck with your choices.
DO you think the grey guns trigger Iis a worthwhile upgrade for the Ltt px4 cc?
I personally really like it - but I really hate wrenching on guns. My PX4 for carry doesn't have one and likely won't because I'm lazy - though if I wasn't lazy I'd put one on there.
I really thought a one-legged Hippo would be called a Tip-o(ver)....
I gotta wonder how much better he can shoot if he replace the OG thin grip with little traction on the 92 to something like the LOKgrip veloce (standard or palm swell).
Since he said in the past that the Langdon grip is too thin for his hands.
Yeah I put it back to stock specifically for the video - but I prefer the LOK Veloce palmswells by a LOT. The other 92 elite I have is already wearing them. I'm not sure it'd have changed the results any.
@@TheHumbleMarksman Since you constantly said you feel that you need to be more aggressive with the off hand grip to control the gun, I imagined that could due to the the thin grips did not give you enough contact surface. Thus, I thought it may change the result with a grip that is more your size.
Since we are here, do you like the palmswells more than the standard? I found that my off hand slip off during aggressive string when I used the palmswell. Not sure if that was a me problem.
Full steel px4 when beretta
That would be a steep Cougar 2.0.
Get both like me
great video i think either one would be a good choice for the range or home storm better for carrier plus the 92 was in so many movies growing up
What pistol case are you using shown in the video.
Case club six pistol case
Pretty good dad jokes
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Again, berreta should make a Steel frame PX4.
Isn't the px4 a polymer 92?
@@klinec38 No, different operating system.
Isn't the old Beretta Couger basically a metal px4?
I’ll like the 92 elite better than the px4. I’ve shot a px4 and I think the rotating barrel is a neat idea but I think people exaggerate on the recoil reduction. They’re double stack 9mm handguns, they shouldn’t have that much recoil anyway.
Shoot it with stouter ammunition - with like +P defensive rounds the recoil reduction is pronounced in the PX4. With range loads it's not a huge difference. PX4 will feel largely the same from range load to stout load - you'll feel the difference in the 92.
That might be true with +p loads. I carry standard pressure HST rounds and it’s not too much of a difference for me.
You need to get a LTT P30 or P30L to compete against these two.
"need" is a strong word.
@@TheHumbleMarksmanThey’re great. I’ve got the PX4,P30 and 92 from Langdon and shoot the best with the P30. It definitely isn’t as flat as the PX4 or the 92, but I seem to do better w it for some reason.
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PX4 = near perfect carry gun
92G = near perfect competition gun.
Better at what?
If you take the aesthetics out of consideration the PX4 is hands down the better platform.
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I’m a dad of about to be 5 kidos. Thank you for reminding me that adding hard is more important than having that next cool gun. As a vet and a cop is a good reminder it’s better to dad hard.
I land on a Glock 34 with a Glock 19x as the carry gun….for now.
Odd. The 92 wsa the gun that goe me intereted in handgunséirearms....admittedly from enjoying Lethal Weapon fims.....but, as i got 'more into guns' I gradually lost interet i in the 92--body design, engineering...oddly iève never shotéowned one. Itès like I naturally avoid the gun. :) 'Open slide' ---ummmm....eems like a novelty featureédesign..... not sure why youèd want it in a 'fighing gun'....wehter or not they jam u fater or not...hrug....
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