New E Bikes With HUGE Battery Options! 2022 Norco Models | EMBN Show Ep. 186
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- This week Steve Jones and Chris Smith are looking at the new range of e-bikes from Norco. They offer the Range (180-170mm), Sight (160-150mm) and Fluid (140-130mm) and across the models, they have 3 different battery options, up to a staggering 900 Wh! We have come a long way from the first Bosch 280Wh external battery, but the question is do you need that much? - Plus Where In The World & Bike Vault.
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We have come a long way from the first Bosch 280Wh external battery, but the question is do you need that much?
Some do… I do….. You two do for your biggest expeditions - looking at you Chris….🤣. Some will be able to avoid a second battery in the car for a huge day in the bike park. And then there’s safety mentioned by some - that group will be able to avoid their worry. Having mentioned safety, I’m going to add that I’m very happy with the safety (and the weight) of carrying a second battery in my EVOC FR back pack with its dedicated compartment and back protector (and I avoid bigger jumps).
To much for me i would say, bought the orbea rise and still havent manage to burn more than 50% in a single ride.
Yes please!. I can't get any more than 45-50mile/6-7k elevation gain if I'm very careful with my 700 battery now. My weekend rides are generally at least that long and can have much more elevation change here in the rockies. Don't want weight of extra battery on my back.
I’m a big guy at 6’5” 280 pounds and I can definitely drain the battery going up the hill pretty quickly and welcome to the larger batteries.
@@MrMarcusNilsson Such varied responses from people! It's good we have options on the market now, different bikes for different riders!
I just did a 93km route last Sunday and took the charger with me, so I was able to add 15 more charge when I stopped for lunch, that allowed me to finish my riding with 13%, so yes, I hope Bosch makes a 700 or 900 wh battery that will fit on the same space of my 625wh. 😎😎
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. I think the motor integration is beautiful and is overall a good looking and good spec bike.
Love the new bikes, along with another great video! Thanks!
Love the channel, gentlemen. Thinking about buying one of the Norcos, just haven’t decided which one yet. Near the time to replace my 2017 Levo.
I love my 2020 Norco sight vlt A1 the component spec was not up to task but the geometry and travel is spot on.
So new wheels, tires, brakes and rear derailleur within 350 klms.
Now its my favorite bike.
i love big days out or bikepacking, more range would mean even longer days! winner
As Chris said, a full 1800Wh would be insane!
Battery leftover at the end of a full day would be awesome. To use the full 900 battery in a day would also be pretty sweet ✌🏻
I will wait until the 1500 w 10 kilo battery comes out.
900wh battery would out last my legs the 720wh on the fluid in green looks lovely. 👌
Would outlast me arse!
I have the Sight vlt and my rides are around 2.5 hours. I can get two rides with 1 bar of reserve out of one charge so if I could lose some weight and still have decent reserve then I would be better off with a smaller battery than the 720watt. So it really depends on the length of rides
At last, just what im looking for.... The 504 i have on my old faithfull bike is fine for local trails, but one you get to big days out in the muck it limits rides... This would be the solution for our big trips to wales and the lakes, probably just use a 500 for locals and the 800 for trips away 👍
This video is very useful. Splendid~!
I would love to know if Shimano plan to make a larger battery the same length as the 2020 BT-E8035 (the smaller sized 504wh one) or a booster to compliment it! As the new BT-E8035L and BT-E8036L obviously don't fit my 2020 E160 8000 frame.
Canton? I live in Riverside, Cardiff lol! Great video as always thank you from me and my Channel!🏴🏴🏴❤️
That means specialized will be coming out with a 800/900wh next year then,but hopefully make thier prices more realistic
Can you replace your Bosch 625 watt motor with one of these big boys?
re battery size it´ll depend upon on a users needs, style of riding etc and local conditions, wet muddy with a lot of climbs and a heavier rider, would probably welcome the extra capacity.
I'm old 69 next February love going out on long rides on focus jam two batties .been thinking about getting another two Tec packs so I can go further I quite often ride with motor turned off to increase range had there been a bigger battery guest what.
My Levo SL (320wh) has enough power to handle my daily 25-30 mile rides with 1,500-2,000 feet of climbing. Occasionally, use the Battery Extender (160wh) for extended distance/climbing rides. Settings: Eco @ 40/40; Trail @ 60/60; and, Turbo @ 80/80. Probably in Trail mode 90% of the time.
34 mi is longest ive done on mine and I turned up my trail mode a little and like it better
I would go for the 900wh no doubt just to be ready for the big long days. I am 193lbs so use more battery on climbs. What I like most about the Norco is the choice of battery size. That's a great business model. I went from a 500wh SC Heckler to a 700wh Gen3 Turbo Levo Pro and subjectively it seems like the Levo/Brose combo is much more efficient, so I wonder how the range on a 900wh Norco/EP8 will compare with the Gen3 Levo. Idea for a test! I have become a huge fan of the Brose motor. Very very smooth power delivery.
29 inch truly taking over.
160 travel 900w alloy frame….natural mountain riding 👍🏻
Good idea if I’m away in my campervan and can’t always charge it. Get a couple days riding out of it
Norco is not the first one with a 900wh battere. Check italian brand olympia with “ex900 sport” model. Greetings from Italy, You are the best channel for e mtb 👍👍
Doesn’t the cyon make sense now from forestal if you’re looking for an sl
R&M have done an 1265wh dual battery model for ages…..
So I’m 56 years old and ride in Yorkshire Dales for 10 to 25 mile rides or Lakes for 25-30 miles with 1500 to 3500 ft of climb on a non ebike and I’m pretty done after that. That I think pushes limit of a 630 watt battery. Be nice to have a bit of flexibility but I’m not sure I want to ride much further or have a bike that is pushing 25 or 26 kg and prices going up well above £6k. Much prefer to see industry pushing range extender of about 250 watts for a couple of hundred pound. Maybe some standardisation of dimensions for a 630 and 250 watt battery. that fit in the same compartment but weigh and cost less.
One of these days you guys will put my bike vault submission on the video 😂, am starting to feel it’s personal 😂😂😂
Hi, we receive a lot and can only show so many! It's best to resubmit every now and again otherwise it could be buried! We keep it as random as possible to keep it fair as possible, best of luck 👍
Thanks for highlighting my son riding his Levo SL for the second time!
Love my sl ,its so fun and light
Sondors has a 1000 kWh battery in the mod drive bikes.
900 wh, that would definitely last all day, I did yesterday 49+ miles and 4300 ft of climbing and still had 2 bars left on my rail with 625 battery.
The Rail has incredible battery efficiency, punching well above its weight
who travels that much ?? you do food deliveries ?
Would rather a Levo SL competitor in the Fluid or sight models
It would be useful if you told us the best price for each model.
720 on the All Mountain would do the trick for me
900 wH for Chris and redo the Dartmoor duel... :-)
These batteries are not the "Biggest in the industry", my dudes.
Frey Beast has a 60v 24.5AH (1.47kWh) monster battery that is collosally bigger than these. It's also already available and is a standard e-mountain bike configuration.
Frey Beast battery is ~60% bigger than the largest battery you listed here.
2030 - 2000wh?
🤷♂️
For my City E bike I could use a bigger battery for a longer day.
720 battery would be great!! Would give you plenty of hours of great riding......
Where and how do I buy one?
I got the Biktrix Ultra Duo Ebike with a 48v 17ah internal and a 52v 21ah external battery, with a total of 1,932 watts hours. Great for long multi-day rail to trail rides. I did 78 miles with 59% left in the external battery. No more range anxiety.
Steve is not a fan of Fat bikes probably because the big front tyre makes them steer like crap in the rocks. Try a dual suspension emtb Fit a 27.5 x 3inch front wheel and forks with a 26x4.0 or 4.8 rear. It works extremely well everywhere, sand, rocks, jumps and is comfort plus. It's a proven tyre combo on moto dirt bikes long before mtbs were a thing. See my Merida on your ep 129.about 16.40mins E=Mtb²
So mate let's get the speculation ball rolling on the 2022 Bigfoot VLT efat..no details are being owned by Norco at this late point, however we expect that the Bigfoot won't be left behind too far in this regard. It only makes sense to have a removable battery on a cold weather purpose built bike however Norco prefers to keep us guessing.
I have a couple of luvleh Norks.
There is one more norco VLT. THE BIGFOOT VLT. it's a fat bike with 4.6 wide tires and comes with 27.5 rims. I got one ordered.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Full sus?
Optional front suspension. Hard tail.
How do you buy Norco in the UK? Their website doesn’t list UK dealers!
It used to be exclusively via Evans Cycles but as they are now owned by Sports Direct and having seen the negative changes they have made to the business I just would not buy anything from them if I could avoid it. Norco need to work with normal independent dealers.
I don’t like the idea of any LiPo battery being attached to me in a rucksack. If it gets damaged and you have a LiPo fire it could do you some terrible damage. LiPo fires flare up extremely quickly and burn at a very high temperature.
What the bike weight?
I don’t like bike parks and prefer natural rides. 1kw should be the upper limit. I like all day epic rides and still find 700 w/h a bit small.
Bigger battery + 150NM motors = great. I want more power, not just more range
250W is plenty, but assistance cut out of 15.5mph (UK) is too low. 20 would be ideal
Stromer has 900w battery for long time
I just bought the Norco Sight VLT A2 with a 900wh battery.
You cannot swap the battery without dropping the motor from the frame. Unfortunately this is going to be a problem for most people. That want to buy a spare battery
My 2020 Sight VLT allows a 360w auxiliary battery to be fitted to the frame in place of a bottle holder. Not sure whether that's an option on the new range?
You have to remove the lower cover not motor
can u guys do a henry electric talk about electric motorbikes and concept bikes and dusen speed switzerland bikes and greyp bikes and whyte bikes.
180 travel , 900w. 👍
Looks like Norco have gone the opposite way from semi skimmed to full fat extra large moo cow size batteries
I am buying the fluid with small battery I only ride 1 to 2 hours
Good call. I’m thinking 720 as I ride 2-3 hours mostly. And then later maybe buy a small battery as my spare extender for the few times that I might want one …?
Looks like a Whyte e180 copy
! Vraiment très satisfait
Does anyone know if you can upgrade the battery on the new levo sl ?
You can get a 160 watt range exstender
@@jimbo4203 good to know. Thanks. Think I might save up a bit longer and get gen3 levo if I can find one. 👍
Me too i really like that one
What’s the point in a UK based preview of Norco e bikes if you can’t readily get them here?!?
Love to see larger batteries available as options. The 500wh batteries of old were a joke and the 900wh versions would allow a rider climb 6-8,000 feet of elevation without anxiety. Just my opinion.
900Wh is not the biggest. All the MTBs from M1 Sporttechnik can have a 1050Wh battery. Also some bikes have 1200Wh. why people ask if you need a bigger battery? of course bigger is better. there is no battery that is too big. Thats like asking if a e-bike need a battery or a electric car need a battery.
It would be TERRIFIC to have Steve come to Canada and Lac Beauport in approximately Feb. 1 2022 - when the trails are minty perfect - for a week of fat bike and Quebec culture. I was also a skeptic until last season when I got to experience fat biking on perfectly groomed roller coaster trails. Loads of fun.
Yep, the anti-fat bike position is DAFT
On my way Bruce!
Where!
I want a bike with twin 900 Wh
Carbon frame, 720 Watt battery and done. If Norco can actually get me one next month I'm ALL IN.
I heard they have a bunch of bikes completely ready but can't ship them because they can't get any components to finish them out
Hey Steve & Chris, Thanks for showing my Northstar @ Tahoe "Where in the World" photo and description! Steve, you mentioned the new tops from the EMBN Shop during my photo talk...Can you get me a discount on them? Thanks, Clint, The (USA) eBike Guy⚡x2
Isn't that asking too much?
@@unfurling3129 Propably; but I had to try...
Industries first? My Spitzing got 1050 Wh since 2016.
Yeah but it’s a butt ugly machine that is.
I disagree. I own a Spitzing and it’s pretty awesome!
I forgot how to tabulate watt hrs
10lbs is like a bad Friday night curry!
This is crazy small capacity battery Complaining!!!!!!
Big capacity battery still complaining!!!!! Every rider have different battery capacity needs!!!
So these bikes are good for smuggling drugs you say ... "more capacity" ... oops my mistake I thought they were Narco bikes.
My battery power us still better than that. 504WH on the bike and another in an EVOC pack with internal strapped pocket. 1008WH. Plus a water reservoir. In this excellently designed pack the weight is flatly distributed and supported by a massive waist belt. Hardly feels like anything at all. 900WH? Pfft. And who carries water bottles on a frame? 😂
So heavy. Try getting a norco
NOT BELT DRIVEN
U du k n ca.
For the ridiculous price these pedal-machines cost, bike makers don't seem to care much about the gullible buyer. Any bike over $2 grand, should have a variety of paint schemes. Seems only Maxx & BH, offer this. Black, blues, grays, any dark color is ridiculous for an e-bike. Visibility counts when facing automobiles during commuting. Where are the bright color options? Painting a frame cost about $60. Anymore is a rip-off. Yet these companies are too-damn-cheap. Making a five...six...eight hundred percent profit on each e-bike sold. Yip. That fancy Norco Range C1, cost about a couple-hundred dollars for the frame. Components are bought wholesale. Fork & shock purchased much cheaper as it would from a individual sale. E-bikes have been around as long as carbon fiber. Yet the prices keep-going-up. So much for the delusion of bike companies saying everyone will be riding e-bikes by the year 2015.