Not a big fan of MSI myself, but placing the ventus in the F-tier because of an uncooled VRM seems a bit overly dramatic to me. There are no reports of failing Ventus cards that I am aware of, no? High temperatures on these components aren't an issue, so I don't really see the problem here? Seems a bit shortsighted to me to assume that an army of engineers simply made such a blunt oversight if it were an issue.
I think the issue is overblown. He just parrots another reviewer instead of taking a thermal imaging camera or a probe and seeing it for himself. Properly cooled case it should be fine. Even more so if you dont oc or undervolt.
I couldn’t sleep until I find a good brand for the RTX 4070 I’m gonna buy, thankfully I stumbled upon your channel, and it is a breeze to look into, I never regret watching every single second of it. Unbiased, informative, and yet remarkable performance. S tier. For subscribe!
Did you also applied that card holder? I wonder to buy this version if 4070 Super, but that holder is kinda different than others and bug using a card things in the case too.
@@Berkelll Nah bro my ventus 3x is just raw dogging in the case without any support, I personally dont think it requires a card holder since theres virtually no sag for me
I picked up the Gigabyte Eagle OC, it offers copper heatpipes compared to the Windforce, it's a very stocky and rigid card, weight is 800gr, no coil whine, dual bios offers silent and performance, but it's just a fan curve, performance just runs the fan at 1900 rpm under load, silent at lower rpm, performance plus MSI Afterburner custom fan curve is the way to go, 1500 rpm is enough to keep the GPU at 65C, hotspot 72C, (stock voltage, summer ambient temp of 30C), the GPU is already efficient, but even allows nice undervolting, stock is 200W/65C/2700GHz/1060mV, with a custom voltage curve capping at 925mV for max boost it's only 140W/55C.
Why the Eagle is better than the Eagle ? I have the TUF and it seems that the TUF literally destroy all 4070 with a 8 pin connector. Almost no coil whine, almost ultra quiet and mostly...i can have 3100mhz which is insane for 1% low with a 360hz monitor. But this is not the best in terms of visual...
How are the fans on the eagle? Are they ball bearing or sleeve? I'm getting the Gaming OC model with sleeve bearings, which is a bit concerning, but I suspect that opinions about the poor longevity of sleeve bearings might be a bit exaggerated. For this reason I'm still sort of torn between the gaming OC and the ASUS dual OC, or the Nvidia FE. If I get the gaming OC, I will be mounting it vertically, which supposedly helps to preserve sleeve bearings.
Thank you very much! I am upgrading from using a “gaming laptop” for 2 years. I would’ve waited for the 5000 series to drop for better prices, but ultimately have to get a 4070. Was initially going to get a 6950 xt, but the power bill where i live is significant.
AMD GPUs are more expensive than Nvidia because: You will likely need a new, beefy PSU and you will slowly pay more in your electric bill too. So sure, Nvidia are more expensive as a product, but you are likely able to keep your current PSU plus their power consumption is better than previous generations. People just don´t see past the initial price... which sure is nuts, but there´s more into it than just that.
@@jjimapro9756 yeah i have a 30 series card from them, and it sags a ton. but i got a support bracket so i dont think its an issue if u have one of those
power limits are a bit useless in the case of 4070. It's impossible to exceed 230/240W. Not even if you immensely OC the gpu (besides being pointless from an fps perspective....little to zero increase at 2k). Plus, the major advantage of the 4070 is its low consuption.
I have both Asus Dual 4070 and Asus TUF 4070. I've make a lot of test about noise, hotspot temperature, memory temperature and OC capacity. The TUF and the Dual have the same OC capacity but the final Frequency differs, the Dual have 2700~mhz at stock in performance bios while the Asus TUF can go above 2900 easily with the performance bios, it's insane and you can go above 3100mhz with an overclock and have HUGE differences in 1% low and smoothness on a 360hz monitor. I've seen zero difference at 4K, at 1440p you can feel a difference sometimes and for 1080p at 240hz/360hz the difference is huge. Also the Dual have a lot of coil whine while the TUF is quieter even for the fan noise, same result. The Dual that i have cost 650 and the TUF 710, i prefer to put 710 on the TUF and i will resend the Dual.
Precisely why I got it. I got a 5700 XT with fans that just kept going full speed, it was absolutely insufferable to the point where I just downclocked and underpowered it to actually enjoy games. Then it died. It wasn't a low end card of that model either. With the 4070 I even get one less connector on the PSU which allows me to fit a fan down there for even better airflow. I honestly don't care about the 10% extra framerate or whatever I could've had with other cards, I just want the fans to shut the fuck up.
@ALPAQL Just got a Dual with a slight undervolt 920mv+1500mhz on memory overclock, dead silent, 39c at idle (no fans) - 47c at full load@30% fan speed (non-existant sound), luckily I have ZERO coil whine or anything else sound-wise for that matter. Extremely well built, not heavy too - also, I peeked inside the backplate, it does have thermal pads inbetween PCB and backplate which is good. Memory temp goes only to 60c on mine since hotspot is barely 57... Price to performance is unbeatable on the dual. P.S - Mind you I'm running these parts inside a Lian Li 216 case (excellent cooling) 2 bottom intake fans, 2 exhaust on top as additionals.
...seems like MSI made changes to some 4000 series cards and calls them "E" or "Essential" (some Changes to the HDMI, DP, but also structural). On some pics it looks, like the" MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 3X E 12G OC" got now a metal cooler attached to the VRM, which was uncooled before. Can you check / confirm this?
Thanks a lot for this extensive research and overview. My Gigabyte RTX 2070 Windforce is still doing a good job after more than 4 and 1/2 years but I'm planning to get a new - 1440p instead of HD - screen. And as I've a 620 Watt PSU, the 4070 seems the way to go. I was thinking Gigabyte Windforce again. But clearly the Asus Dual/Dual OC is a match + quieter AND it's the cheapest 4070 over here! Thanks again.
Hello @@tove25 . Sadly no. My gaming chair passed out =) so a decent replacement was the priority. I took a Corsair T3 Rush and I'm very happy with it. Also I finally binned my ageless and creaking speakers with Creative Pebble Pro's. The prices of the 4070s are going down over here but my cash is low. My mind is still set on the Asus. I put price alerts for it a bit everywhere 😆
I also have the Corsair T3 Rush, grey and white, very comfortable chair, and I'm planning on building a PC with a 4070, was thinking of going with the Gaming X Trio but now I can't decide between that one or the Gigabyte Gaming OC
Hi @@ghoste5776. I've got the grey/black T3. It's great not to sweat in leatherette anymore, isn't it? So far, I've always used MSI or Gigabyte components. As far as I could see Gigabyte's cheapest "gaming" branded MBs or GCs are just basic models with added cosmetic features (colours, RGB) and I never went for such. Personally I'd go for the Gaming X Trio or possibly the Asus Rog Strix (actually the ASUS is just 1 quid more at my usual dealer). I suppose you intend to overclock your card, else there is not much benefit over the Dual for the asked price difference.
@@patricklebeau6539 Hey bro, that’s the color I wanted to be honest 🥲 but in my country (Mexico) it was like $50 US extra so I settled with the grey/white version, just have issues with the white parts being so easy to stain, and it’s also my first gaming chair, before that one I used a plastic chair so my back really appreciated the change, but I do agree that you don’t sweat with this chair at all, overall definitely would recommend it. About the graphics card, I do agree with you, overall I like the aesthetics of the Gaming Trio and it comes with a little bit more OC from the box than the GB one, so I think I’ll go for that one, one last question though (sorry), do you think an i5 13400 would bottleneck it at 1440p or is it good enough?
Got the GB Gaming OC a couple of days ago and that insane power-limit seems a bit, well, pointless. At least for me since I don't plan on modding the card - and I wouldn't even know where to begin with that, anyway.. :) I managed a simple +125 MHz OC on the GPU and set 1000+ on VRAM. I put the power-limit up to 120 and then 130 percent, but the card never drew more than 235W or so. It does run into the voltage limiter all the time though. I also let Afterburner come up with an Auto OC curve which pretty much gave me the same results as my quick and dirty manual OC. Both run stable and gave me "excellent" results in TimeSpy. The cooler seems indeed very capable. Hotspot temps reached very low 80s while benchmarking, but GPU and VRAM remain exceptionally cool, even when OCed. Like... mid 50s on the VRAM.
So you like the card, overall? Do you think that a 650w PSU would be enough to handle this card at it's stock OC settings? Also, what's your opinion on the sleeve bearings in the fans?
@@platyhelminthes2877 Sorry for the late answer. Yes: I really like the card and I would happily buy another of their Gaming/OC models when I upgrade. The card hasn't missed a beat for me and I've never ran it at default settings other than for benchmarking/comparison purposes. Furmark stress test (1080p) will push Hotspot temps to low 80s with my OC (PL to 130% resulting in ~240W draw), but the default fan curve won't spin up the fans to more than 70 to 75% at these temps. Manually setting the fans to 100% will keep Hotspot temps well below 80°C. I can't really tell if 650W would be enough - I upgraded from a 550W PSU to a bequiet! ATX 3.0 750W to be on the safe side WRT power and also to get the 12VHPWR connection (so I wouldn't have to use a bulky adapter to run this card). However: Especially if you leave power limits on stock, I don't see why a 550W wouldn't be able to pull it off. It's what Nvidia and GB recommend for this card, but also: I ran a GB 3070 Eagle trouble-free before the 4070 on my 550W PSU and that card has a TDP of 220W (vs the 4070's 200W). Also: While I found/find it a bit unnerving that GB don't include a GPU-stand with this one (but they do/did on the the slightly larger 4070 Ti Gaming), I can't say I've encountered any sag with this card.
Before buying any cards I’m always here, behind your video, which are the best informative in the whole internet as buying a graphic card. Sometime I even watch it for fun to see which one of a model is better than other. Like in this case. Thank you for your hard work. Is greatly appreciated
I did indeed feel good about my 4070 purchase! Found one for 550$ and... Its the MSI X Trio! Cant wait to use it at a bit of an overclock as you mentioned!
@@Samukr. Long story short, some dude won it from a YT raffle, couldn't use it and sold it for money. The buyer (person i got it from) was planning to upgrade but changed his mind and wanted to go pure AMD instead. His 3080 however died due to poor quality connectors and used it for about 3 days so hes system could post. Then i saw the post on my local equivalent of eBay and simply had to get it for such a price. I'd say for such a new gpu mine alr has a lot of history to it 😁
I just bought a MSI Ventus 2X OC because if was by far the cheapest 4070 and I thought MSI couldn't be that bad.... Now I returned it and got a Palit GamingPro for just a little more... Thank you for the warning
I just returned the 4070 msi ventus 3x due to extreme coil whine and after finding out about the VRM issues. I can get the 4070 gigabyte gaming oc for €667( 20 more than I bought the msi ventus for) and according to some forums, gigabyte gaming is in general better odds of having less/no coil whine. But I also see a sale this week: from €909 --> €819 for the gigabyte 4070 ti windforce. Do you guys think this is worth the extra €€ and the fact that it is windforce not gaming oc?
For me, that 152€ difference between 4070 and 4070ti is still quite large. But in case of the scenario where you don't have any immediate use case for that money, I would go with 4070ti, as 4070 performs like 3080 10g, while 4070ti resides close to 3090/3090ti level, and those 20-25% different in performance is kinda noticeable.
@@Souscheff Coil whine depends more on your houses electrical wiring, how old it is, how clean the power is and quality or crap psu. Quality psu might smooth out the dirty power but even they have limits.
for me, it feels like the power limit isn't as big of an issue because I undervolt / overclock anyway. So I'm usually running 30W-40W less power than spec at the boosted OC clock. Ofcourse the higher the better and less chance of triggering power limit, but its not that big a deal. Keep up the great work, if possible, can you please do AIB comparison for the new SUPER series that was recently released ?
Absolute madlad, I was considering getting the Ventus in the future because it's usually the cheapest model here in my region... Now I know why it's so cheap lol. Thanks.
This video helped me decide between the Gigabyte Eagle OC and Gaming OC, once I am able to test their performance I'll let you know how glad I am that you guided me on the right direction (or not!) Just hoping the coil whine isn't an actual issue and that I can put up with it 🙏
Thank you very much for this video. Im makina basket for the Black Friday in order to build a new PC and i was about to get the msi ventus x3 … while the gigabytes gaming is at the same price !! Thank you again for your work you probably saved me from some trouble! ❤
Well crap i picked up a msi ventus 2x OC a couple weeks ago. It was signfiicantly cheaper then all other 4070 cards I could find. It had a metal backplate though? Maybe updated version? I haven't had any problems with temps or anything either.
I have a 4070 ventus 3x oc and run msi afterburner and sync all three fans to always run the same speed at the same time. Temps always stay below 60°c, I have geforce experience and use the oc autotuning for mild oc and I have no problems with temps....
Im thinking of asus dual since it is cheapest on my market and been using asus mostly tuf and strix for the pas decade. But this seems to be the most budget friendly option i hope i won't make mistake. (I would not oc it.)
Idk i gotta say i have the zotac twin edge 4070 and that thing even while overclocked is super silent and ive yet to see it above like 72 degrees. Ive been fairly happy with it so far.
This list is very subjective as he didn't have these cards to test just gathered info. I have the windforce OC and Asus tuf gaming and the windforce is silent and stays under 70c at full load. My 100 dollar more expensive Asus tough looks cool but is louder and runs hotter and does not provide more performance over the windforce. And most buy a 4070 for it's performance without the big power draw so why would you want to push it to 235 or more just use Dlss! Buy the cheaper 3rd part GPU's you will be happy with them.
Hi! I really appreciate your work. It’s just that I’m in a bit of a hurry to grab a 4060 Ti and can’t seem to find enough info online to decide between the Asus Dual OC, the MSI Ventus 2X black OC and the Zotac Twin edge.
@@willy7968 mine is silent as can be and it’s never been over 64c. I put another 200 mhz on the gpu also. I’m not big into overclocking so 200 is good for me!
What is funny about some of these cards, it's like these manufacturers never built a GPU before. I mean come on, build them right and don't make 5 models of the same GPU to confuse the consumer.
Hello! WTB Asus Dual OC RTX4070 (non-Ti), and I'm worry about coil whine. Is it real an issue, can you hear it? My PC is running quiet extremely now (r5 5600 under Noctua).
MSI's Ventus 3x has a new "E" version and the only thing their specs and info say that's different is the E version weights 834g while the older version weights 811g. I wonder if they put some thermal pads under those vrms and changes the backplate to a metal one.
Possibly. From what I can see in their photos there's a new addition to the heatsink around the VRM area, but no one can be sure until someone gets one and disassembles it.
@@rick330 Well on e shops it has E in the name. Idk if it's actually on the box or not. I bought ventus 3x and wondering too. I'll just see if mosfet vrm is bare or not if it is idgaf got a steal of a deal. Besides will sell it for when next gen cards arrives, so theres no way it'll die in just a year and then some.
YES you did, I'm trying to build a full white pc but I wanted to go with the Asus Tuf 4070 card, looking around in my friend's shop I saw he had the Gigabyte Aero 4070 and it looked cool + its white ! but my friend told me to stick with Asus Tuf bcoz he said its better in cooling, now I know it's almost identical to the Asus Tuf yet its white, which will make my pc WAY better looking, I wouldn't even mind if its like slitely worse bcoz it'll look WAY better if it's a white GPU instead of a black one in the middle of a full white pc, thank you so much man this video is so great and hits exactly what I wanted to know and understand, ggs brother.
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There is an issue currently going on regarding gigabyte pcb breaking. Can you shed some light on that. I am confused b/w gigabyte gaming oc vs asus dual
@@lkline000 Yes I have seen the videos around that. They blame it on Gigabyte's PCB shape making the PCIe slot lock farther out than other cards. I really don't think it's an issue unless you ship the system or move it around a lot that can cause stress on the PCB. Otherwise, we would see way more coverage on it if it was a problem that many people experienced.
Gigabyte Gaming OC is now 799 CAD in Canada, which, I think, is a pretty good value, all things considered. Thank you so much for making this tier list. Extremely helpful !!!!
Price varies massively between models and ventus offer value. I haven't heard anything about reliability issues either. In the real world value for money is the most important factor and it isn't taken into account at all here.
I know this was an old video sir, and i hope you still actively reply to this. I was wondering if you could advice me.. so i wanted to upgrade my old PC and have been looking for a good RTX 4070 card and after watching your videos i have narrowed my option for Gygabyte Gaming OC or Asus Dual. My question is how do you think both cards would endure better for a long run because it will probably be another 3-4 years hard earned saving before i could make another upgrade. Also which card do you suggest in terms of performance and cooling system, obviously both are different design one is 3 fan other 2 fan but because im also on a limited budget (i just really wanted to spend it wisely and buy the very best within my fund limit) do you think for a dual fan card Asus live up to Gygabyte performance, cooling and longevity sir? I hope you reply i would appreciate it because you’ll help me decide my mind, best regards sir
The reason you never got a response is because nobody here is a fortune teller. If you really are worried about having the card for a while buy higher end brands and pray you don’t get a melted 16 pin connector down the road or just buy one of the lower powered 4070s that still use the 8 pin and cut that particular risk out all together. Nobody knows how each of these cards will hold up in three years because the silicon lottery is alive and well, especially with these 16 pin models.
I'm trying to choose between 2 model. You here made a comparison video about 46, FOURTY SIX FREAKING models and the Asus Dial OC is here, but not the the MSI Gaming X Slim😂 How unlucky I am😅
Gigabyte Gaming OC is what i have my eye on for a new rig, seems to be a decent choice and its at a nice price point compared to the others in this list.
I got that Card bro since June of 2023…It’s really quiet and beautiful at the same time. I’m mostly playing Dota 2 and pubg and I hit 240 fps on Dota with my 240hz monitor and pubg mostly above 160 fps constant with high or ultra graphic settings
@@aB_S_NiNoDo you know if the default blue/orange RGB pattern on the gaming OC can be changed to blue/purple? I have a 3060ti gaming Elite OC with the blue/purple pattern and would like to use those colors on the gaming OC as well, but can't remember if RGB fusion 2.0 lets you change the colors for that specific pattern.
Are you going to make a video for the 4060/ti cards, on which to buy? I know that they aren't the most popular cards in the range but, so is the 4080 and you made a video for that model.
Wow thank you. The cheapest I can get a Palit Dual version but I've heard their fan's make wierd unpleasant sound even on 30% and there can be coil whine (I know it can be everywhere). Can you confirm someone confirm that on your model? I almost ready to pay extra to get jetstream version
I am waiting for my Inno3D X2 4070 to arrive . I was skeptical at first cause I’ve never bought from this brand before, but I decided to go with it because of the good price. But according to the video it looks solid. Let’s see!
I went with a lesser known brand and got a Galax 4080. temps are fantastic and holy crap this thing is fast. 100% worth it imo. (Yes I know the price aint for everyone but thats why I sold my consoles, to build something to beat the snot outta those 30fps limits)
I just got one too. If all the online info is to be believed it is small, not very flashy and requires low wattage but just as capable as the MSI 4070 or other famous brands. Apparently I made a good choice in not getting the Ventus, it was on my list.
i wish u would give us your recommendation at the end of the video , like value wise with price and build quality :) im thinking asus dual oc seems like the best value price wise but asthetic wise for sure the rog strix but its no where to be found in EU. maybe the tuf one duno
Feature wise I think this is the best card to get for 1440p. Should do all that you want and more for less than the power of the 3070. It could 4K, albeit barely on acceptable frame rate and settings, but 1440p is the sweet spot. Still not priced nicely unfortunately.
I think the gaming x trio should be higher than the asus tuf OC model. HW unboxed did a review and the cooling performance was way better. Unless I'm wrong, lmk!
*watches this 6 months after i bought my MSI Ventus 4070* in all fairness the card really isn't F teir imo. It's great for me, only had a problem when one of my RAM's went bad and my games would crash I thought I had a faulty card lol. I got it on a really good deal at best buy for like $600-700 off the original price.
Where's the 4070S video? I'm trying to figure out which one to get, I bought an ASUS Dual OC but it BSOD and wouldn't stop turning off my max fps after every restart. I was leaning toward MSI since my mobo is that but heard about VRM cooling issues. Then was thinking about gigabyte but heard the fans make weird noises if not set to 50%. Lol I really don't like FE as everyone I've had was not good and they are the only cards I've ever had with Coil Whine. Idk what to get. I really want to get it in person from Best Buy because I am going through a nightmare right now with Amazon and shipping my Asus 4070 back. I dropped it off 2 weeks ago, it keeps going from east coast to IN, then back and forth. The box was pretty damaged when I received it. But that also limits it as the only MSI 4070S BB has is the ventus, and the gigabyte gaming OC, same price for both. Any help/direction would be amazing. I just found this channel but instant sub with the work you do. I have been trying to find this type of info for the 4070S but it's usually a very limited test group.
I think you made a mistake, your avarage temperature and noise delta for cowcotland doesn't match with data, it looks like it is added but not divided. I bought inno3D 2x based on this data and now I will return it and buy pny xlr8
Thanks to your launch edition (first glance) buying guide, I was able to return my MSI Ventus 3X !!! I would've loved to see this complete guide earlier while I was purchasing around release date, however thanks to the explanations in your video on how to tell which GPUs have good cooling performance and what to watch out for (even as a first time buyer), I ended up going with the Gigabyte Gaming OC over the MSI Gaming X Trio and Asus Tuff which I'm relieved to find in S tier. These guides were really helpful. Thanks!
@@folksp6532 I guess I'll just have to hope I'm lucky. Choosing the right parts is like playing russian roulette except every company is a bullet just waiting to fire. Hopefully my sag bracket will help mitigate this problem. Thanks for the warning though.
@@mmadraimov5097 On Amazon, I bought a 15$ black aluminum stand with square base and a rectangle pad you tighten at the right height for your GPU. It's worked great thus far. Placed it over my hard-drive cage and since I don't have anything in that cage, the magnet at the base can't slow down any spinning discs. I would recommend checking height compatibility with your case because if I removed the drive cage, it might not be tall enough according to my eye-ball test. Also, make sure not to place the pad in contact with gpu fans when they spin. It was very easy with my gaming oc since the bottom surface is flat. Thought having a pole with base would be better than a bracket you screw in the pci-e slots and it's quite cheap and discreet but I didn't do any major research in sag brackets tbh. Here's the actual name of the one I bought: Graphics Card GPU Brace Support, Video Card Sag Holder Bracket, GPU Stand, Anodized Aerospace Aluminum (Black) - (yeah very long name/description) Pretty sure the seller doesn't matter and all come from the same factory, just check star rating and how many bought it I guess. Would love to know if you buy the same or a different one. Hope this helped! :)
Colorful rtx 4070 Ultra has two version the new one V2-V has a beefy 6 heatpipe cooler which can occupy 3 slot, I just want to know which version did you get?
thanks bro..the asus tuff is my choice..my asus 3070ti tuff has proved itself to be powerful..cool and reliable..any 2 fan card will always be noisy and hot...3 fans is king of anti-thermal degradation.
I'm curious about this too, it seems the galax EX/KFA2/1-click OC 3x is on the noisier side compared to other brands on the few reviews I've seen, so I'm curious if the 2x is about the same or even louder...
Hey man, it's been some time but I do hope you answer. Did you get the zotac twin Edge? How does it feel? It's also the cheapest option on my region, and the alternatives are way more expensive right now (almost 100usd)
Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4070 Super Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge price is about 200usd higer for the Zotac is it even worth this for gaming only??
These videos are insanely informative. Wow, thank you so much! This helped me deciding so much on what brand to pick.
Not a big fan of MSI myself, but placing the ventus in the F-tier because of an uncooled VRM seems a bit overly dramatic to me. There are no reports of failing Ventus cards that I am aware of, no? High temperatures on these components aren't an issue, so I don't really see the problem here? Seems a bit shortsighted to me to assume that an army of engineers simply made such a blunt oversight if it were an issue.
Historically, MSI cheap out on Ventus components real hard and they don't last more than 3-4 year with rough usage.
@@IAMNOTRANA the same with gaming x?
@@user-de9dg9rg9m Gaming X cards have a good reputation. They just seriously cheap out on their Ventus models.
I think the issue is overblown. He just parrots another reviewer instead of taking a thermal imaging camera or a probe and seeing it for himself. Properly cooled case it should be fine. Even more so if you dont oc or undervolt.
100% THIS IS WAY OVER BLOWN, CARD PERFORMS FANTASTIC
I couldn’t sleep until I find a good brand for the RTX 4070 I’m gonna buy, thankfully I stumbled upon your channel, and it is a breeze to look into, I never regret watching every single second of it. Unbiased, informative, and yet remarkable performance.
S tier.
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Welcome aboard! Always appreciate the kind words, thank you.
which one did you end up going with in the end?
@@OTechnologyI ended up going with the PNY for a sale of $550 so we’ll see how it goes.
so, how is it ? i'm planning to get it as i'm kinda forced to@@Chrisp707-
@@Chrisp707-how's it going?
Me sitting here watching the whole video with my Ventus 3x: 🗿
Did you also applied that card holder? I wonder to buy this version if 4070 Super, but that holder is kinda different than others and bug using a card things in the case too.
@@Berkelll Nah bro my ventus 3x is just raw dogging in the case without any support, I personally dont think it requires a card holder since theres virtually no sag for me
I picked up the Gigabyte Eagle OC, it offers copper heatpipes compared to the Windforce, it's a very stocky and rigid card, weight is 800gr, no coil whine, dual bios offers silent and performance, but it's just a fan curve, performance just runs the fan at 1900 rpm under load, silent at lower rpm, performance plus MSI Afterburner custom fan curve is the way to go, 1500 rpm is enough to keep the GPU at 65C, hotspot 72C, (stock voltage, summer ambient temp of 30C), the GPU is already efficient, but even allows nice undervolting, stock is 200W/65C/2700GHz/1060mV, with a custom voltage curve capping at 925mV for max boost it's only 140W/55C.
I buy same card and for gaming is excellent choice.Really I don’t care for rmp fan,when is not used for 100% fan stop…
Why the Eagle is better than the Eagle ?
I have the TUF and it seems that the TUF literally destroy all 4070 with a 8 pin connector.
Almost no coil whine, almost ultra quiet and mostly...i can have 3100mhz which is insane for 1% low with a 360hz monitor.
But this is not the best in terms of visual...
How are the fans on the eagle? Are they ball bearing or sleeve? I'm getting the Gaming OC model with sleeve bearings, which is a bit concerning, but I suspect that opinions about the poor longevity of sleeve bearings might be a bit exaggerated. For this reason I'm still sort of torn between the gaming OC and the ASUS dual OC, or the Nvidia FE.
If I get the gaming OC, I will be mounting it vertically, which supposedly helps to preserve sleeve bearings.
Thanks for taking the time to test and share.
You're welcome!
Thank you very much! I am upgrading from using a “gaming laptop” for 2 years. I would’ve waited for the 5000 series to drop for better prices, but ultimately have to get a 4070. Was initially going to get a 6950 xt, but the power bill where i live is significant.
4070 is very overpriced, u could buy a used card and wait for it to drop
AMD GPUs are more expensive than Nvidia because:
You will likely need a new, beefy PSU and you will slowly pay more in your electric bill too.
So sure, Nvidia are more expensive as a product, but you are likely able to keep your current PSU plus their power consumption is better than previous generations.
People just don´t see past the initial price... which sure is nuts, but there´s more into it than just that.
@@krishnas3473crazy logic, just get the 4070 and chill for half a decade lol
@@hua.. u can get an 3080 for half the price then upgrade with 100$ to that in a year or two lol
@@krishnas3473 2nd hand 3080? hahaha i will not risk my money in 2nd rtx power hungry 3080🤣🤣
I made a nifty cigarette lighter by holding a piece of baling wire to the Ventus housing until it glows red.
LOL 😆
The E version of the MSI Ventus cards seems to have thermal pads on all VRMs.
Its good to see how much better gigabyte has gotten with their vrms and power limits, with the 30 series they always had mid range power limits.
lmao gigabyte is second only to asus as the most predatory and worst customer service so kindly stfu just cuz your a fanboy
Gigabyte has cracking boards in the 30 and 40 series so I’d avoid them all together
@@jjimapro9756 yeah i have a 30 series card from them, and it sags a ton. but i got a support bracket so i dont think its an issue if u have one of those
power limits are a bit useless in the case of 4070. It's impossible to exceed 230/240W. Not even if you immensely OC the gpu (besides being pointless from an fps perspective....little to zero increase at 2k). Plus, the major advantage of the 4070 is its low consuption.
I have both Asus Dual 4070 and Asus TUF 4070.
I've make a lot of test about noise, hotspot temperature, memory temperature and OC capacity.
The TUF and the Dual have the same OC capacity but the final Frequency differs, the Dual have 2700~mhz at stock in performance bios while the Asus TUF can go above 2900 easily with the performance bios, it's insane and you can go above 3100mhz with an overclock and have HUGE differences in 1% low and smoothness on a 360hz monitor.
I've seen zero difference at 4K, at 1440p you can feel a difference sometimes and for 1080p at 240hz/360hz the difference is huge.
Also the Dual have a lot of coil whine while the TUF is quieter even for the fan noise, same result.
The Dual that i have cost 650 and the TUF 710, i prefer to put 710 on the TUF and i will resend the Dual.
Precisely why I got it. I got a 5700 XT with fans that just kept going full speed, it was absolutely insufferable to the point where I just downclocked and underpowered it to actually enjoy games. Then it died. It wasn't a low end card of that model either. With the 4070 I even get one less connector on the PSU which allows me to fit a fan down there for even better airflow.
I honestly don't care about the 10% extra framerate or whatever I could've had with other cards, I just want the fans to shut the fuck up.
@ALPAQL Just got a Dual with a slight undervolt 920mv+1500mhz on memory overclock, dead silent, 39c at idle (no fans) - 47c at full load@30% fan speed (non-existant sound), luckily I have ZERO coil whine or anything else sound-wise for that matter. Extremely well built, not heavy too - also, I peeked inside the backplate, it does have thermal pads inbetween PCB and backplate which is good. Memory temp goes only to 60c on mine since hotspot is barely 57... Price to performance is unbeatable on the dual.
P.S - Mind you I'm running these parts inside a Lian Li 216 case (excellent cooling) 2 bottom intake fans, 2 exhaust on top as additionals.
...seems like MSI made changes to some 4000 series cards and calls them "E" or "Essential" (some Changes to the HDMI, DP, but also structural). On some pics it looks, like the" MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 3X E 12G OC" got now a metal cooler attached to the VRM, which was uncooled before. Can you check / confirm this?
Nice point !
That is a fantastic job researching cooling performance, helped me a lot since a appreciate silent and low temp cards. Thanks
Thanks a lot for this extensive research and overview. My Gigabyte RTX 2070 Windforce is still doing a good job after more than 4 and 1/2 years but I'm planning to get a new - 1440p instead of HD - screen. And as I've a 620 Watt PSU, the 4070 seems the way to go. I was thinking Gigabyte Windforce again. But clearly the Asus Dual/Dual OC is a match + quieter AND it's the cheapest 4070 over here! Thanks again.
Hey, have you bought the Asus Dual OC? How is it?
Hello @@tove25 . Sadly no. My gaming chair passed out =) so a decent replacement was the priority. I took a Corsair T3 Rush and I'm very happy with it. Also I finally binned my ageless and creaking speakers with Creative Pebble Pro's. The prices of the 4070s are going down over here but my cash is low. My mind is still set on the Asus. I put price alerts for it a bit everywhere 😆
I also have the Corsair T3 Rush, grey and white, very comfortable chair, and I'm planning on building a PC with a 4070, was thinking of going with the Gaming X Trio but now I can't decide between that one or the Gigabyte Gaming OC
Hi @@ghoste5776. I've got the grey/black T3. It's great not to sweat in leatherette anymore, isn't it? So far, I've always used MSI or Gigabyte components. As far as I could see Gigabyte's cheapest "gaming" branded MBs or GCs are just basic models with added cosmetic features (colours, RGB) and I never went for such. Personally I'd go for the Gaming X Trio or possibly the Asus Rog Strix (actually the ASUS is just 1 quid more at my usual dealer). I suppose you intend to overclock your card, else there is not much benefit over the Dual for the asked price difference.
@@patricklebeau6539 Hey bro, that’s the color I wanted to be honest 🥲 but in my country (Mexico) it was like $50 US extra so I settled with the grey/white version, just have issues with the white parts being so easy to stain, and it’s also my first gaming chair, before that one I used a plastic chair so my back really appreciated the change, but I do agree that you don’t sweat with this chair at all, overall definitely would recommend it. About the graphics card, I do agree with you, overall I like the aesthetics of the Gaming Trio and it comes with a little bit more OC from the box than the GB one, so I think I’ll go for that one, one last question though (sorry), do you think an i5 13400 would bottleneck it at 1440p or is it good enough?
Got the GB Gaming OC a couple of days ago and that insane power-limit seems a bit, well, pointless. At least for me since I don't plan on modding the card - and I wouldn't even know where to begin with that, anyway.. :) I managed a simple +125 MHz OC on the GPU and set 1000+ on VRAM. I put the power-limit up to 120 and then 130 percent, but the card never drew more than 235W or so. It does run into the voltage limiter all the time though. I also let Afterburner come up with an Auto OC curve which pretty much gave me the same results as my quick and dirty manual OC. Both run stable and gave me "excellent" results in TimeSpy. The cooler seems indeed very capable. Hotspot temps reached very low 80s while benchmarking, but GPU and VRAM remain exceptionally cool, even when OCed. Like... mid 50s on the VRAM.
@@Souscheff you can EASILY overclock a factory OC card as they are not pushed to their limits within reasonable PL.
So you like the card, overall? Do you think that a 650w PSU would be enough to handle this card at it's stock OC settings?
Also, what's your opinion on the sleeve bearings in the fans?
@@platyhelminthes2877 Sorry for the late answer. Yes: I really like the card and I would happily buy another of their Gaming/OC models when I upgrade. The card hasn't missed a beat for me and I've never ran it at default settings other than for benchmarking/comparison purposes. Furmark stress test (1080p) will push Hotspot temps to low 80s with my OC (PL to 130% resulting in ~240W draw), but the default fan curve won't spin up the fans to more than 70 to 75% at these temps. Manually setting the fans to 100% will keep Hotspot temps well below 80°C.
I can't really tell if 650W would be enough - I upgraded from a 550W PSU to a bequiet! ATX 3.0 750W to be on the safe side WRT power and also to get the 12VHPWR connection (so I wouldn't have to use a bulky adapter to run this card).
However: Especially if you leave power limits on stock, I don't see why a 550W wouldn't be able to pull it off. It's what Nvidia and GB recommend for this card, but also: I ran a GB 3070 Eagle trouble-free before the 4070 on my 550W PSU and that card has a TDP of 220W (vs the 4070's 200W).
Also: While I found/find it a bit unnerving that GB don't include a GPU-stand with this one (but they do/did on the the slightly larger 4070 Ti Gaming), I can't say I've encountered any sag with this card.
Would love to see where the Asus Proart 4070 oc lands in this tier list
What a huge difference in power limits, thank you as always for these videos, always my go-to instead of mainstream "reviews"
really wish madvr devs have same capabilities, but jrivers been great, but not same quality
but it cant play music and videos simultaneously
Before buying any cards I’m always here, behind your video, which are the best informative in the whole internet as buying a graphic card.
Sometime I even watch it for fun to see which one of a model is better than other.
Like in this case.
Thank you for your hard work. Is greatly appreciated
I did indeed feel good about my 4070 purchase! Found one for 550$ and... Its the MSI X Trio! Cant wait to use it at a bit of an overclock as you mentioned!
How did you find MSI Trio for this price ? Used ?
@@Samukr. Long story short, some dude won it from a YT raffle, couldn't use it and sold it for money. The buyer (person i got it from) was planning to upgrade but changed his mind and wanted to go pure AMD instead. His 3080 however died due to poor quality connectors and used it for about 3 days so hes system could post. Then i saw the post on my local equivalent of eBay and simply had to get it for such a price. I'd say for such a new gpu mine alr has a lot of history to it 😁
I just bought a MSI Ventus 2X OC because if was by far the cheapest 4070 and I thought MSI couldn't be that bad.... Now I returned it and got a Palit GamingPro for just a little more... Thank you for the warning
I just returned the 4070 msi ventus 3x due to extreme coil whine and after finding out about the VRM issues. I can get the 4070 gigabyte gaming oc for €667( 20 more than I bought the msi ventus for) and according to some forums, gigabyte gaming is in general better odds of having less/no coil whine. But I also see a sale this week: from €909 --> €819 for the gigabyte 4070 ti windforce. Do you guys think this is worth the extra €€ and the fact that it is windforce not gaming oc?
For me, that 152€ difference between 4070 and 4070ti is still quite large. But in case of the scenario where you don't have any immediate use case for that money, I would go with 4070ti, as 4070 performs like 3080 10g, while 4070ti resides close to 3090/3090ti level, and those 20-25% different in performance is kinda noticeable.
@@Souscheff Coil whine depends more on your houses electrical wiring, how old it is, how clean the power is and quality or crap psu. Quality psu might smooth out the dirty power but even they have limits.
@@AndytlpA good quality UPS could help with this, could it not?
for me, it feels like the power limit isn't as big of an issue because I undervolt / overclock anyway. So I'm usually running 30W-40W less power than spec at the boosted OC clock. Ofcourse the higher the better and less chance of triggering power limit, but its not that big a deal. Keep up the great work, if possible, can you please do AIB comparison for the new SUPER series that was recently released ?
Absolute madlad, I was considering getting the Ventus in the future because it's usually the cheapest model here in my region... Now I know why it's so cheap lol. Thanks.
Glad to help haha
@@OTechnology can You bro tell me that inno3d x3 4070 will be real good card? Good noise and good for oc?
Feeling great about my blind Gigabyte Gaming OC pickup yesterday.
Hi, thanks for the super informative video.
One question tho, are you planning to make one for 4060 and/or 4060 Ti too?
This video helped me decide between the Gigabyte Eagle OC and Gaming OC, once I am able to test their performance I'll let you know how glad I am that you guided me on the right direction (or not!)
Just hoping the coil whine isn't an actual issue and that I can put up with it
🙏
Very informative video and so detailed! Question though; any idea where the Asus ProArt version lands?
Was considering the Ventus until you saved me! Thanks!
i bet 99 percent of people that buy the ventus think its just a great 4070 card and it probably is fine.
Thanks for this insight! While I would have preferred to wait for the 50 series, circumstances were such that it was time to purchase a card.
You're welcome! Also, at least this isn't as bad as during the mining boom.
@@OTechnology and a AI boom
@@OTechnology Bro i need fast help! Inno3D X3(normal) wuld be better then asus dual?
me too.. circumstance being Starfield. LOL i dont think my 1660ti can handle it
Thank you very much for this video. Im makina basket for the Black Friday in order to build a new PC and i was about to get the msi ventus x3 … while the gigabytes gaming is at the same price !! Thank you again for your work you probably saved me from some trouble! ❤
Well crap i picked up a msi ventus 2x OC a couple weeks ago. It was signfiicantly cheaper then all other 4070 cards I could find. It had a metal backplate though? Maybe updated version? I haven't had any problems with temps or anything either.
Same. temps are very low playing New World for example. So pretty happy with it, given the price too.
same here, I think the whole temp thing is really blown out of proportion
I have a 4070 ventus 3x oc and run msi afterburner and sync all three fans to always run the same speed at the same time. Temps always stay below 60°c, I have geforce experience and use the oc autotuning for mild oc and I have no problems with temps....
Im thinking of asus dual since it is cheapest on my market and been using asus mostly tuf and strix for the pas decade. But this seems to be the most budget friendly option i hope i won't make mistake. (I would not oc it.)
What's about the KFA2 GeForce RTX 4070 Super EX GAMER 1-Click OC? Got it for under 600€.
Idk i gotta say i have the zotac twin edge 4070 and that thing even while overclocked is super silent and ive yet to see it above like 72 degrees. Ive been fairly happy with it so far.
This list is very subjective as he didn't have these cards to test just gathered info. I have the windforce OC and Asus tuf gaming and the windforce is silent and stays under 70c at full load. My 100 dollar more expensive Asus tough looks cool but is louder and runs hotter and does not provide more performance over the windforce. And most buy a 4070 for it's performance without the big power draw so why would you want to push it to 235 or more just use Dlss! Buy the cheaper 3rd part GPU's you will be happy with them.
Hi! I really appreciate your work. It’s just that I’m in a bit of a hurry to grab a 4060 Ti and can’t seem to find enough info online to decide between the Asus Dual OC, the MSI Ventus 2X black OC and the Zotac Twin edge.
Go with Asus Dual
if it hasnt done it hasnt
Palit Gamingpro can actually increase power limit to 107% so max power is actually 214-215 watt for that one. (I’m using the non OC) version.
What about 4070 Super ?
Im about to buy one but dont know your recommdation
Wow, it surprised me that MSI Ventus is so bad optimized. Still searching for a good deal and I will keep your comparision in mind. Thank you! :)
But where would you guys rank the ASUS ProArt? Especially when it comes to cooling
I love my mid ventus 3x oc. I’ve put another 50mhz over clock on top of the factory oc and so far it hasn’t been over 58c. It’s a good overall card
It is rly bas card, nemory are burn as hell
@@rick330 why is it important? did u understand what he was meaning? thats the most important thing right?
is it quiet ? I ordered this same model, ventus 3X OC edition
@@willy7968 mine is silent as can be and it’s never been over 64c. I put another 200 mhz on the gpu also. I’m not big into overclocking so 200 is good for me!
What is funny about some of these cards, it's like these manufacturers never built a GPU before. I mean come on, build them right and don't make 5 models of the same GPU to confuse the consumer.
I appreciate this information I just upgraded to a 4070ti and it already failed.. It was the F tier design so that explains it.
I have a Asus Dual. For a MSRP card, it's excellent.
Hello! WTB Asus Dual OC RTX4070 (non-Ti), and I'm worry about coil whine. Is it real an issue, can you hear it? My PC is running quiet extremely now (r5 5600 under Noctua).
@@timati78rusThey maybe fixed it new model. I have white edition of Asus Dual and I don't hear any coil whine even when FPS goes 300-400.
It seems to be lotery
@@timati78rus I returned my Asus Dual OC RTX4070 because of coil whine.
Yes, coil coil whine is so loud! @@MrKvasi
Thank you so much
I went with 4070 AORUS Master 🙏💕
Is it good as per the tier list?
@@PovOfGaming yes brother
MSI's Ventus 3x has a new "E" version and the only thing their specs and info say that's different is the E version weights 834g while the older version weights 811g. I wonder if they put some thermal pads under those vrms and changes the backplate to a metal one.
Possibly. From what I can see in their photos there's a new addition to the heatsink around the VRM area, but no one can be sure until someone gets one and disassembles it.
thats cool who sells the "E" version and how do i know which one it is?
@@rick330 Well on e shops it has E in the name. Idk if it's actually on the box or not. I bought ventus 3x and wondering too. I'll just see if mosfet vrm is bare or not if it is idgaf got a steal of a deal. Besides will sell it for when next gen cards arrives, so theres no way it'll die in just a year and then some.
YES you did, I'm trying to build a full white pc but I wanted to go with the Asus Tuf 4070 card, looking around in my friend's shop I saw he had the Gigabyte Aero 4070 and it looked cool + its white ! but my friend told me to stick with Asus Tuf bcoz he said its better in cooling, now I know it's almost identical to the Asus Tuf yet its white, which will make my pc WAY better looking, I wouldn't even mind if its like slitely worse bcoz it'll look WAY better if it's a white GPU instead of a black one in the middle of a full white pc, thank you so much man this video is so great and hits exactly what I wanted to know and understand, ggs brother.
Could I get the rest of your specs? I'm trying to create a white build for a friend without ever having built a PC myself.
We need same videos on 4070 super and other new nvidia cards! Thanks, keep doing what you doing!
MSI VGA GEFORCE RTX 4070 VENTUS 2X 12G OC I got this one. There was a substantial price difference between this and other 4070's.
I only have youtube super thanks for donations, for those asking in previous videos. (I don't have anything else setup for now lol) Donate or not thanks for the support as always!
There is an issue currently going on regarding gigabyte pcb breaking. Can you shed some light on that. I am confused b/w gigabyte gaming oc vs asus dual
@@lkline000 Yes I have seen the videos around that. They blame it on Gigabyte's PCB shape making the PCIe slot lock farther out than other cards. I really don't think it's an issue unless you ship the system or move it around a lot that can cause stress on the PCB. Otherwise, we would see way more coverage on it if it was a problem that many people experienced.
@@OTechnology so which 1 should i go for ? Gigabyte gaming oc or asus dual ?? Both coming on same price in my area
@@lkline000did you got the answer? which one are you going for ?
@@TheoSan. going for the gigabyte gaming gaming oc
Gigabyte Gaming OC is now 799 CAD in Canada, which, I think, is a pretty good value, all things considered. Thank you so much for making this tier list. Extremely helpful !!!!
that custom is too noisy
Any possibility to add the Galax 1-click OC 2x? (dual)
I've been following your channel for a long time! Long-time subscriber! Keep up the good work!
Pls make also amd gpu's tier list 😊
pls do this for the 4070 super whenever/if possible
Price varies massively between models and ventus offer value. I haven't heard anything about reliability issues either. In the real world value for money is the most important factor and it isn't taken into account at all here.
I know this was an old video sir, and i hope you still actively reply to this. I was wondering if you could advice me.. so i wanted to upgrade my old PC and have been looking for a good RTX 4070 card and after watching your videos i have narrowed my option for Gygabyte Gaming OC or Asus Dual. My question is how do you think both cards would endure better for a long run because it will probably be another 3-4 years hard earned saving before i could make another upgrade. Also which card do you suggest in terms of performance and cooling system, obviously both are different design one is 3 fan other 2 fan but because im also on a limited budget (i just really wanted to spend it wisely and buy the very best within my fund limit) do you think for a dual fan card Asus live up to Gygabyte performance, cooling and longevity sir?
I hope you reply i would appreciate it because you’ll help me decide my mind, best regards sir
The reason you never got a response is because nobody here is a fortune teller. If you really are worried about having the card for a while buy higher end brands and pray you don’t get a melted 16 pin connector down the road or just buy one of the lower powered 4070s that still use the 8 pin and cut that particular risk out all together. Nobody knows how each of these cards will hold up in three years because the silicon lottery is alive and well, especially with these 16 pin models.
I'm trying to choose between 2 model. You here made a comparison video about 46, FOURTY SIX FREAKING models and the Asus Dial OC is here, but not the the MSI Gaming X Slim😂
How unlucky I am😅
I dodge a bullet on MSI, that was my first choice, until i saw some good review on ASUS DUAL. Thanks!
Fantastic video! This is such a useful resource. Kudos for pointing out where your methodology is flawed due to missing data
Gigabyte Gaming OC is what i have my eye on for a new rig, seems to be a decent choice and its at a nice price point compared to the others in this list.
I got that Card bro since June of 2023…It’s really quiet and beautiful at the same time. I’m mostly playing Dota 2 and pubg and I hit 240 fps on Dota with my 240hz monitor and pubg mostly above 160 fps constant with high or ultra graphic settings
@@aB_S_NiNo thanks for info
@@aB_S_NiNoDo you know if the default blue/orange RGB pattern on the gaming OC can be changed to blue/purple? I have a 3060ti gaming Elite OC with the blue/purple pattern and would like to use those colors on the gaming OC as well, but can't remember if RGB fusion 2.0 lets you change the colors for that specific pattern.
@@platyhelminthes2877 I don’t know that mate, haven’t checked it. I’m mostly let it get whatever color it likes I don’t give so much attention
Thanks for this video, I had just ordered the MSI Ventus Dual OC 4070 but canceled the order and got the Asus Dual OC instead
Good day, I am also thinking of buying Asus dual. I used 2 Asus dual cards. Can you share your temperature values?
Are you going to make a video for the 4060/ti cards, on which to buy? I know that they aren't the most popular cards in the range but, so is the 4080 and you made a video for that model.
Got a windforce with the Alan wake 2 bundle. Super happy with it.
hey bud whats up after a month? what about heat, noise and any coilwhine?
I LOVE your Videos ~ Wish we could see your thoughts on AM5 MB's!!!
So what's the short answer?
Which card worth it? Best value, best build components and of course good scores?
Hi ☺️ i love your videos! thank you for your knowledge, experience and opinion.
Are you thinking doing a video about the 4060ti? I want buy One.
Wow thank you. The cheapest I can get a Palit Dual version but I've heard their fan's make wierd unpleasant sound even on 30% and there can be coil whine (I know it can be everywhere). Can you confirm someone confirm that on your model? I almost ready to pay extra to get jetstream version
Im very confused, whats the difference between asus dual oc p and oc q? Google doesnt shown anything and i preffer the cooler one
Its has dual Bios (quite and performance), so both are same card but set to diffrent bios
Most comprehensive video on CZcams thanks mate
Thank you so much for this video. I finally made a decision and settled on the best RTX 4070 for myself!😊
I have an ASUS TUF OC and it works great! It's paired with a i7-13700k and 32 gb RAM @6000
I am waiting for my Inno3D X2 4070 to arrive . I was skeptical at first cause I’ve never bought from this brand before, but I decided to go with it because of the good price. But according to the video it looks solid. Let’s see!
I had an inno3d card for a few years.. Never missed a beat! My son now has it in his system, still going strong.
How are youre temps? I just bought it and with timespy it gets 69 gpu, 66 mem temp and 85 hotspot. Are there normal temps or to high?
@@dutchg8916 it's a single fan small form factor gtx 1060 6gb.. So can't really compare temps. Around 70/75 when gaming.
I went with a lesser known brand and got a Galax 4080. temps are fantastic and holy crap this thing is fast. 100% worth it imo. (Yes I know the price aint for everyone but thats why I sold my consoles, to build something to beat the snot outta those 30fps limits)
I just got one too. If all the online info is to be believed it is small, not very flashy and requires low wattage but just as capable as the MSI 4070 or other famous brands. Apparently I made a good choice in not getting the Ventus, it was on my list.
Nice video you are awesome, are the 4060 video incoming ? :D
Thank you. Yes the 4060 video is next.
i wish u would give us your recommendation at the end of the video , like value wise with price and build quality :) im thinking asus dual oc seems like the best value price wise but asthetic wise for sure the rog strix but its no where to be found in EU. maybe the tuf one duno
Pls make a 4070 super part now aswell
Help! Which 4070 should I buy?
Gigabyte Gaming OC
Gigabyte Windforce OC
MSI Ventus 3x OC
I'd recommend the Asus Dual OC
@@-Zeth- Why?
@@koniczka2000 Don't buy the Ventus as shown in the video. the card I mentioned is cheaper and draws less power. It's also smaller size if needed.
@@-Zeth- Ok. Thanks for your recommendation.
@@-Zeth- What about Palit GamingPro?
I mean , I just got the inno3d 2x twin , I hope it won t overheat or break any fans , other than that , it was cheap and it should last me a long time
Wow, so glad I saw your vid. I was debating between MSI Ventus and Gigabyte windforce, You've made that decision easy. RIP MSI
Windforce or eagle
Do you have any data on the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Windforce X2 OC. It sems to be a 2 fan variant of the Windforce OC.
Need the 4070 super version asap. But this will be a good consideration too.
Feature wise I think this is the best card to get for 1440p. Should do all that you want and more for less than the power of the 3070. It could 4K, albeit barely on acceptable frame rate and settings, but 1440p is the sweet spot.
Still not priced nicely unfortunately.
Nah, I think that card is a much better card. I thought about going with this card or the other card but I like the features on that card the best.
BEST ECONOMY 4070 SUPER? WHIT GOOG PHASE END COOLER?
I think the gaming x trio should be higher than the asus tuf OC model. HW unboxed did a review and the cooling performance was way better. Unless I'm wrong, lmk!
what about the ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Twin Edge OC White Edition
dude super educational thanks mate!
You're welcome!
Crazy video bro , you think kfa2 ex gamer brand is good ?
*watches this 6 months after i bought my MSI Ventus 4070*
in all fairness the card really isn't F teir imo. It's great for me, only had a problem when one of my RAM's went bad and my games would crash I thought I had a faulty card lol. I got it on a really good deal at best buy for like $600-700 off the original price.
I think you missed the part explaining why it's F tier
Am so lucky I bought the 4070 AORUS Master OC. I was really tempting buying MSI xd
Where's the 4070S video? I'm trying to figure out which one to get, I bought an ASUS Dual OC but it BSOD and wouldn't stop turning off my max fps after every restart. I was leaning toward MSI since my mobo is that but heard about VRM cooling issues. Then was thinking about gigabyte but heard the fans make weird noises if not set to 50%. Lol I really don't like FE as everyone I've had was not good and they are the only cards I've ever had with Coil Whine. Idk what to get.
I really want to get it in person from Best Buy because I am going through a nightmare right now with Amazon and shipping my Asus 4070 back. I dropped it off 2 weeks ago, it keeps going from east coast to IN, then back and forth. The box was pretty damaged when I received it. But that also limits it as the only MSI 4070S BB has is the ventus, and the gigabyte gaming OC, same price for both.
Any help/direction would be amazing. I just found this channel but instant sub with the work you do. I have been trying to find this type of info for the 4070S but it's usually a very limited test group.
I think you made a mistake, your avarage temperature and noise delta for cowcotland doesn't match with data, it looks like it is added but not divided. I bought inno3D 2x based on this data and now I will return it and buy pny xlr8
Thanks to your launch edition (first glance) buying guide, I was able to return my MSI Ventus 3X !!!
I would've loved to see this complete guide earlier while I was purchasing around release date, however thanks to the explanations in your video on how to tell which GPUs have good cooling performance and what to watch out for (even as a first time buyer), I ended up going with the Gigabyte Gaming OC over the MSI Gaming X Trio and Asus Tuff which I'm relieved to find in S tier.
These guides were really helpful. Thanks!
unfortunately gigabyte cards are prone to cracking and they will reject rma.
@@folksp6532 I guess I'll just have to hope I'm lucky. Choosing the right parts is like playing russian roulette except every company is a bullet just waiting to fire. Hopefully my sag bracket will help mitigate this problem. Thanks for the warning though.
@@goldenphoenix5945 which sag bracket do you use? As i remember, Gigabyte 4070 gaming oc does not include sag bracket.
@@mmadraimov5097 On Amazon, I bought a 15$ black aluminum stand with square base and a rectangle pad you tighten at the right height for your GPU. It's worked great thus far.
Placed it over my hard-drive cage and since I don't have anything in that cage, the magnet at the base can't slow down any spinning discs. I would recommend checking height compatibility with your case because if I removed the drive cage, it might not be tall enough according to my eye-ball test. Also, make sure not to place the pad in contact with gpu fans when they spin. It was very easy with my gaming oc since the bottom surface is flat.
Thought having a pole with base would be better than a bracket you screw in the pci-e slots and it's quite cheap and discreet but I didn't do any major research in sag brackets tbh.
Here's the actual name of the one I bought:
Graphics Card GPU Brace Support, Video Card Sag Holder Bracket, GPU Stand, Anodized Aerospace Aluminum (Black)
- (yeah very long name/description)
Pretty sure the seller doesn't matter and all come from the same factory, just check star rating and how many bought it I guess.
Would love to know if you buy the same or a different one. Hope this helped! :)
Maybe he’s using Lego bracket
So what about an MSI 3080 Suprim X 12 GB vs an 4070 Gigabyte Windforce? If you have the MSI 3080, would you switch to the 4070?
Colorful rtx 4070 Ultra has two version the new one V2-V has a beefy 6 heatpipe cooler which can occupy 3 slot, I just want to know which version did you get?
thanks bro..the asus tuff is my choice..my asus 3070ti tuff has proved itself to be powerful..cool and reliable..any 2 fan card will always be noisy and hot...3 fans is king of anti-thermal degradation.
thanks mate .... this guide helped me a lot
Why the "Gigabyte Aero OC and Gaming OC" have a top tier list but in all reviews these cards perform worse than "Asus TUF" and "MSI Gaming Trio"?
Hi, if possible can you give info about Galax 4070 2x or 3x. By the way thank you for informative video.
I'm curious about this too, it seems the galax EX/KFA2/1-click OC 3x is on the noisier side compared to other brands on the few reviews I've seen, so I'm curious if the 2x is about the same or even louder...
@@Nayelianne i bought 4060 ti galax and it is really good. Working cool and voice not disturbing
I wasn't expecting the windforce to be besides the eagle and asus dual OC
My friend got an msi ventus 2x oc for 500 cad sealed (no tax). Thats abour 380 us. Even if its the worst 4070, thats still one hell of a deal
is Zotac twin edge oc really that bad, cause was thinking about one as its the cheapest in my area/country.
Hey man, it's been some time but I do hope you answer.
Did you get the zotac twin Edge? How does it feel? It's also the cheapest option on my region, and the alternatives are way more expensive right now (almost 100usd)
Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4070 Super
Zotac Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Super Twin Edge price is about 200usd higer for the Zotac is it even worth this for gaming only??