The FGC Isn't Happy About The New BLEACH Fighting Game..
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Recently, a new Bleach fighting game was announced and it appears to be an arena fighter. The response from the FGC wasn't the most positive. Today we explore a couple of reasons why.
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These are not fighting games. Not a FGC issue.
I never understood this statement when these anime games are literally advertised and meant to be a fighting game. When you see these games in stores they are categorized as fighting games. Everytime soomeone says this they can never give a clear reason why its always something vague so my assumption is because it doesn't fit your image of a fighting game therefore it isn't one. What exactly qualifies as a fighting game anyways?
The FGC issue is wanting every game to be a traditional 2D fighting game
@@Digital.midori spot on
More accurately not traditional fighting game @@subzerokid100
Exactly. These games don’t even exist to me. It’s for anime fans
When did the FGC ever care about arena fighters? You barely see them at major tournaments. You might see some at your local tournaments in your city, but that's just from my experience.
theres a fuckton of weebs in the FGC (myself included) and we want a good anime fighting game. for like 15 years we only had FighterZ, and banda namco keeps cucking us with these shit cashgrabs.
@desgyulabalogh3429 I agree with you. I have a couple of arena fighters myself I just never knew that the fgc cared for them because those games are marketed towards casual gamers like myself and others.
@@toptaco890 I have OP burning blood and played the naruto ninja storm games back in the day and they are always in a sad state cuz they balance it based on the anime and theres 0 depth to it. I fondly remember using Gai sensei to make my firends cringe themselves to death over him being OP AS FUCK but would not touch it with a 10 foot pole competitively, just as i dropped tekken until 1.0.5 dropped and the balance was almost barely fixed.
@@desgyulabalogh3429 It's because they are cheap and easy enough to continuously pump out. These guys aren't trying to make long term fighting games. They are just trying to make quick cashgrabs and remind people that their anime/manga merchandise still exists.
Gundam Versus...
Bleach is my favorite on the big 3. Im just happy to even get a bleach game in this day and age. I really want it just to be fun. I'm not expecting it to surpass sparking zero but I do hope they succeed with the game and not fail like jjk did.
Same. Been waiting ages for bleach to get some respect in more than just a limited release psp game.
What were the big three again? It’s been so long. Was it Naruto, Bleach, and OP? I kinda recall but Bleach ended so long ago and I can still recall reading the first My Hero chapter and even that’s now ending.
@@alexandermccalla5098You're right about the big 3 the Bleach Manga is planned to recontinue with the Hell Arc but the anime is going to Cour 3 of the Thousand Year Blood War Arc.
@@Honest_Mids_Masher we can only dream of the hell arc. Was teased years ago and Kubo is constantly in interviews explaining why he doesn’t want to give backstory to his villains. Gonna be hard to write when your characters have no motivation.
@@alexandermccalla5098 You're able to give motivations to characters without having a backstory. Aizen's motivation is to replace the Soul King as he is disgusted by the fact that he is ruled over by a corpse and that he wants to be the one who stands above all else. Kubo said he doesn't give villains backstory's so you don't ever sympathize with them (ngl though you can still give them a backstory while still having them be impossible to sympathize with)
It's not even that it's not a 2d, it's because these games don't be QUALITY, put more money into them, and don't be bull headed about online features ui, and mechanics AND NETCODE!!!!!
Kill La Kill If is by far the best arena fighter in terms of feeling like an actual competent fighting game, but it was unfortunately dead before it even released. I also think One's Justice is pretty solid, but there are things that annoy me about it. Overall, I like the IDEA of arena fighters and feel they have a lot of untapped potential; it's just that most of them are admittedly bad and shallow.
As far as Clorox, I'm cool with it and in a way I'm glad it's an arena fighter because all the whining about arena fighters over the last 6 years has gotten beyond insufferable. Even moreso when the same people complaining just want every single thing to just be a fighterz clone or another generic open world game.
Pokken
I feel like the perfect arena fighter should have like some of the combat elements from kill LA kill and like the movement in the dbz tenkaichi games and it'd be damn near perfect on that alone but the developers making these games seem to not care, also thought I was the only person in the world who liked ones justice that game had potential
You act like people are "whining" for no reason. You even acknowledge that most of them are bad. Clearly there's a reason for "whining". We want them to make better games.
I can say the same about arena fighters too because this genre is too oversaturated and most of them are straight up garbage.
Fax the kill la kill game has sauce
If it's anything like Heat The Soul series, we should be in good hands. I remember enjoying Heat The Soul 4 back in the day
4 was when it started getting good. If ever you’re curious to return to the HTS games, I highly recommend checking out HTS7
Or a better Soul Ressurection.
I promise. Shutting your brain off makes you enjoy games
that you would have never considered playing.
If you're just gonna shut your brain off you might as well be living in a vacuum brody.
By that logic I could play with a rock and have fun.
@Impalingthorn I believe that's the point, be like a kid and a rock could bring you lots of fun. Everyone is always judging this and that instead of enjoying the moment.
@@brucejohnson5914 thank you lol
@@Urbanboy732 you’re welcome, we all forget at times, lol.
I'd prefer a 2d bleach fighter over 3d but im hyped. I simply hope for a decent combo system, online, and a lack of mechanics that let you escape combos without the use of resources like Jump Force.
Also Jump's servers are still online, but it's just the ranked mode that's gone now
The companies that handle these games have a formula that works for the casuals. They will eat these games without complaints. The FGC is literally 0.1% of their Market. They don't care.
Yeah, I understand you. I have a question though, who will stay though? Who will I play against after these years?
@mielkavra. no one. Everyone is always so hype for anime games, but they never last a year.
First off, Bleach being back in any capacity is hype for me. Secondly, Idk if this is a hot take or not but if there was any franchise that should play like the budokai games it would be bleach. I always found it weird that they zip around insanely fast basically fly and fight airborne and yet these games tend to have you grounded and relatively slow. It’s too early to know if this game is gonna be good or not, I really hope it is tho
People forget about the more competitive arena fighters like Virtual On and the Gundam Extreme VS series. Arena fighters can be just as deep as 2d or 3d fighters it's just about how well it's made. We live in a better time now, but there was a time 2d fighters were being pumped out and were trash same with 3d fighters hopefully arena fighters can stay consistently good.
I recently came across the Gundam arena fighters while I was in Japan. Those games are awesome and totally dominate the arcades.
Finally, someone mentions Gundam Versus. Those games will always be more technical than anything the FGC has.
I was always open to the idea of anime area fighters in the fgc I was just waiting for them to get there shit together
The real concern should be if this game will give us fans the jiggles. And I mean ALL the jiggles, looking at Orihime, Rangiku, Yoruichi and my beloved Kukaku, who was one my anime crushes at the time.
😂😂 I have no doubt Japan will deliver for you on that front, sir ☝🏾
The Dev team behind this made Senran Kagura. Which is THE jiggle physics game
Bro is asking the real questions 👏🏻
@@schmutlerfgc is it bad that I got a platinum trophy on a senran kagura game? Cause I’m ngl I’m contemplating on getting another one for a platinum
The company making bleach is Tamsoft. They're known for making Kusoge game (shit games) for ppl in the know. I enjoy the Onechanbara series (the one that made them popular) as well as the Senran Kagura games. That is the only reason why I have some faith in the game gameplay wise.
Isn’t heat the soul a 3d fighting game? Like tekken and soulcalibur? It’s not halfway between a fighting game and an arena fighter it’s just a fighting game.
Yeah lol, it was more of a 3D Fighter like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive and Virtua Fighter. "Halfway 2D fighter and halfway arena fighter" is a strange description.
The FGC would take arena fighters seriously if they took themselves seriously.
They do??
Play Gundam EXVS, Budokai Tenkaichi, Storm 4, and Kill La Kill If.
Also, this comment is ironic considering the fgc LOVES MVC which is one of the most broken kusoges out there.
Not even giving a game a chance because of previous games of a similar style is a bit of a L in my opinion. We all love Bleach, let's at least wait to see what happens.
Can you blame them. There were only like four good ones I can name off the top of my head.(Excluding DBZ)
After core values no one should take them seriously
It's a miracle that we are even getting a new Bleach game so no bitching is allowed imo😂 but seriously let's wait for more info about the game before passing judgement ✌️
BS. I'd rather get something worthwhile or not at all. Let's see you keep that same energy when it's reduced to a pachinko game.
@@Shade84 true to be told I don't give a shit about getting a bleach game or not but the anime/bleach community sure does so what FGC want is irrelevant , also do you even know what a pachinko is??
@@Shade84 also I said "let's wait for more info about the game before passing judgement"
@@dark__angel__9150 I used that example because King of Fighters was reduced to a pachinko game back in 2006 when fans hadn't seen a new release for the title in a long time. My point is just getting a new game for your favorite series isn't enough, and with the track record arena fighters have I think the disappointment is completely valid. The moment I realized that's what it was I lost almost all interest.
@@Shade84I definitely agree with you, on the track record of these anime fighting games. some definitely, haven't been all that good. ( Jujutsu kaisen, storm connections, the demon slayer game, which I had fun with. Although, it didn't do anything new in my opinion.) that's why, I rarely get hyped. because every time it happens, it usually doesn't end up being the one. which is why we need criticism. ( like different opinions, without getting bashed for them). But you know nowadays, the fanboys will attack you. for not being on, the hype bandwagon which is dumb. we are just asking, for some innovation. yet there's so very little of any, in some of these games. I love bleach don't get me wrong. I just don't trust bandai, after what happened with jump force. that taught me a lesson. To never again, buy these games out of hype nor nostalgia.
After the core value incident I don’t want the FGC anywhere close to my games.
One issue that the FGC needs to get over is that not every fighting game will be 2D like Street Fighter 6 or 3D like Tekken, Soul Calibur, or DoA. Sparking Zero is for sure a fighting game. To say it's not is just dumb.
Now it's one thing to be against 1 button combo BS, It'd be cool if the Storm series had combos like Tekken or whatever, so that I agree on. But to say a game like Sparking Zero, Budokai, or Storm aren't fighting games is stupid. You literally are FIGHTING. They're literally called Arena FIGHTERS. Like the one thing Storm Connections did right was actually allowing combos and adding move scaling, etc. It's a start.
FGC assumes every anime fighting game that releases need to be either FighterZ or Guilty Gear in terms of gameplay. I’ve seen a bit of this with Sparking Zero when Namco said the game is going to be realistically unbalanced meanwhile, FGC still praise some of the most unbalanced shit in classic fighting games cuz nostalgia.
I wish a dev would copy the pokken formula. People slept on that game hard.
Yeah the game is dope af
same with for honor
OH most definitely, that game is criminally underrated.
the best arena fighting game of all time is dissdia 012 just wish it would get remastered and released on current hardware
Dissidia 012 duodecim to be exact. Game was incredible, and I still even play it sometimes
@@nerooyeye2196 012 is duedecim there isnt another named 012
@senatheEND ohh yeah, that was a mistake. I thought you were talking about the first game
I played the absolute sht out of that game when I was younger, so disappointed the remake wasn't anything like it
We need another one and also with a story mode cause I wanna see my boy Firion again
Fighterz is good, but not every anime needs a game that follows that template. If that were the case, people would just end up complaining about saturation in that genre like they do with arena fighters.
Agreed
The last thing I want is another ArcSys games. They all look the same with dumbed down mechanics.
@@zeroskaterz92 Hard disagree. Fighterz has autocombos and almost only quarter circle inputs, but the number of things you can do that's also high execution is plenty. Their only games I'm aware of that got dumbed down heavily were Strive and Cross Tag.
@@redgrave4492 Bruh literally all characters plays the same. All characters have the exact same input. Number of things you can do, lol, what a joke.
In comparison to Street Figher, Tekken, King of Fighters, even Capcom vs SNK or Marvel vs Capcom, ArcSys games are dumbed down when it comes to learning curve. It's pretty much an inferior rip off of MvC.
@@zeroskaterz92 Clearly you've never played fighterz or even watched any high level gameplay. At the end of the day I don't work for Arcsys, so whether you like their games or not is whatever, but at least have honest critique or sound like you know how the game plays. Like imagine criticising multiple characters for sharing inputs as if other fighting games like Street Fighter or Tekken don't do the same.
The Fgc complaining of course. Ain’t a problem, but it’s a new bleach game, like damn let the game breathe before it even comes out .
I'm not familiar with Bleach but the powerscaling system reminds me of Capcom vs SNK back in the day and that slapped. You could have 4 Dans, Sakuras, Benimarus etc or a single Akuma or Rugal, and just mix and match to your preference. I'd be well up for that as a concept. Tactical choices, personal preferences and respect to lore in one. It'd be sick to see something like that in a Tekken Tag 3.
Bandai Namco (a bad company I hate) has said that they want to focus on quality and canceled a bunch of games. But not this one. That at least is a sign they took some time with this game. Big companies love making apology games when their reputation gets bad enough. Capcom had to make like 10 in a row. Sparking Zero is defiantly one of those so maybe Rebirth of Souls is too.
Back when Naruto Storm 2 first came out, it was long before we were swamped with these type of games and I remember thinking, at the time, that I'd love a Bleach game in that style that covers the story up until the defeat of Aizen. When that PS3 game came out and it was a Dynasty Warriors clone, I remember being disappointed. I'm far less of an anime fan now than I used to be, but playing this game will really take me back to simpler times. I'm looking forward to it, and I hope they don't screw it up.
i wanted a DBFZ type of game for Bleach i'll try this one tho it might be good
These are the same individuals who are hyped for Sparking Zero. How come there’s so much hype and hope for Dragon Ball Sparking Zero, but not for Rebirth of Souls?
Probably because there is a lot of trust with dragon ball cause db arenas have yet to rlly let down their community, that's why storm connections sold way more copies than it should have because people trusted the storm series until it let them down
Nostalga 😂😂 thats all
Do you know how big the DBZ fanbase is? 😂
Because we haven't seen enough gameplay for rebirth of souls it's easier for them to hate when ignorant
@@CyrusIsntas someone who's actively been playing tenkachi 3 I promise you it's not nostalgia the combat system and movement in that game are by far the best in any arena fighter
Not every fighting game has to be a pro fighter because those costs a lot to make so you just gotta wait until they get the money to make fgc games
I feel that arena fighters actually have a higher potential to 2D or 2.5D fighting games, but to actually nail it down seems to be a struggle for most developers. Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is still one of my favorite fighting games to this day. So, I don't instantly think of arena fighters in a negative light, but I do understand that more often then not that they are subpar cash grabs. This art style and fidelity of the game already look amazing so I'm hoping that this is just a sneak peak at what is to come. Also it appears that Ichigo parries Renji's attack, which if that's the case could speak to some deeper mechanics.
If this was Spike chunsoft developing it, you'd have a guaranteed failed game. They did The OPM arena fighting game.
Earlier? Jump Force 2019.
These Devs did Melty blood, and I've heard it was decent and had an okay FGC moment (I think?).
Let's give these developers a chance to show us what they can do with it. Who knows, maybe they can revolutionize it and make it good. But they're usually hard to balance or to be... Good.
They didnt do melty blood, they only published it to pc, French Bread made melty.The only game we can really tell what the game could be like is off senran kagura cause thats the closest game they've done
@@roxas327 ah My mistake. I checked on steam and actually thought they made it. Should refine my search. Thanks for heads up.
Ah just checked. Thanks for letting me know. My mistake.
Jump Force didn't fail, idiot. How much money do you think they had to spend in order to keep the licenses for the characters they use? That's why crossover games don't last more than 3 years.
who tf cares about the Sweat-Game community?
Before getting into mechanics the games need betas for good netcode or rollback. Semantically you can call it a fighting game because the characters fight but does that matter if the devs don’t actually about your ability to fight people.
i’m hyped for it, it’s been forever since a bleach game. i’ll see how it is and probably get if it’s good. same with sparkling zero. gotta give games a chance. haven’t played an arena fighter since jump force but they can be fun if done right.
I remember when Burst Limit came out. It majorly put me off how BL only went up to the Cell saga. I already had DBZ fatigue at the time, from completing story modes of Budokai 1-3, Tenkaichi 1-3 AND Infinite World. Oh hell no did I want a repeat of a Burst Limit 1-3.
Fatigue so hard I skipped the entire PS3/360 era of DBZ until Xenoverse for the PS4.
Pleasant surprise seeing one of my HTS7 clips in here, great video and thanks for the credit! 🔥
Thank you for your cool content and thanks for watching the vid! 🙏🏾☝🏾
As someone that loves bleach, is a fan of 2d fighters and its not a fan of arena fighters I always held the belief that if we ever get a brand new Bleach game it HAS to be an arena fighter. Because Bleach has been out of the console videogame market for a hell of awhile, so they need to get as many people behind this game as possible, and it turns out arena fighters are loved by the casuals(seriously is the reason why we got so many). So with that logic it makes sense why it should be one. But the more important part is if its good and will it sell, because if it does we are definitely getting more Bleach games in the future, and hopefully Ill get that 2d Bleach fighter that I desperately want
I hope they'll include multiple versions of characters with more different movesets like the storm games
I can’t wait to see people shocked at the trailers that reveal more gameplay or special moves. I feel like people aren’t really acknowledging the quality that this game has
Man i loved burst limit...
It doesn't get enough love ☝🏾
Didn't think it can get worse than that jjk game but welp
It can always get worse 🗿
That’s crazy because it’s not made for the fgc it’s made for the fans of course I’d love a 2d fg tho
I wish i was more like Soulcalibur. Just most crazy. Bamco just sitting on that Soulcalibur Engine. Not doing anything with it.
Besides Sparking Zero the only other noteworthy arena fighters that you should definitely try is Virtual On, The Gundam Versus series and Kill la Kill IF.
Kill la Kill If was so underrated, for a niche anime they made a hell of a good game, one of my favorites to play with friends
Imma be real. Idc if they want a sweat fest over balanced game; fuck that . I want an anime fighter where characters are as canonically powerful or weak as they are in the show and solid polished gameplay with fun being the overall goal. I do not want some game where the weakest character in the show is as strong as they be strongest for the sake of tournaments . Fuck that. Anime fans deserve good games that are properly filled with fan service . Please don’t chase esports
It’s not about chasing esports it’s about the game actually being well designed and not a braindead cash grab that people will play for like a few hours and then get bored of. I would rather have a game with a smaller cast of actually interesting to play characters that are well balanced than a game with 70 characters that all play basically the same and have nothing going for them other than fanservice and flashy ultimates. Bleach deserves an actual good game.
Anime fighters are never meant to be FGC ready games, why can you people not comprehend this lol. One of the few exceptions is Fighterz but that is made with FGC in mind.
If you want a FGC Bleach game, get up and develop one yourself, you guys.
Most people hated burst limit.
Then most people must be destr- I mean I disagree 🗿
Sparking zero did one thing wrong: locking splitscreen behind one stage only. The offical excuse was bc of aesthetics "can't carry the same aesthetics in split screen"
Because of the amount of details in the maps and your characters, optimization would greatly suffer, which isn't ideal in a fighting game. That's what we know so far, and maybe they could add more maps for split screen as add-ons.
@@enman009 that's such an easy fix tho especially in today's age. And it's not like it hasn't been done before. Just turn everything down from 4k to 1080 and eliminate useless render distances (such as I don't need to see the destruction 500m away and just keep it at 300m) and boom easy fix. And also I'm not looking at dust particles when I'm tryna hand out L's
Sparking Zero will hopefully change the anime game industry
You can still play jumpforce online. It’s the ranked match that is shut down. Friendly and quick matches still work and people are still playing lol
I don't understand, (anime) arena fighting games are technically fighting games (two characters, or groups of characters, fighting each other to deplete their other's health bar), just not in a traditional sense.
That being said, a good amount of the stigma surrounding these games stem from them being understandably, catered to casuals and/or having its gameplay being usually designed in such a way in which the "meta" may not be enjoyable to play and or watch, especially for people in thr FGC/have experience with traditional fighting games. (Just watch Daz is Bambo's "A Deep Dive In Competitive Naruto Storm" video for reference).
Funny enough, the (anime) FGC seems to have accepted the Gundam VS games and occasionally gets set up at majors here and there. (Honorable mention goes to the Kill la Kill game too, but the fact that Arc System Works was involved in some capacity, may have had a hand in that by virtue of the "halo effect" they have with the FGC, but deservedly so, thanks to their consistent track record with FGs).
The FGC loves Gundam Versus Maxiboost On. They show up at least in AnimEvo.
We don't hate Arena Fighters, we hate the bad Arena fighters. Wjich was the majority of them.
Give us more Gundam Versus, and less like Jump Force. And then we'll talk.
I played this game for abit and I really liked its mechanics and the lp costs are a good way of ensuring people don't spam broken shit too bad it's kinds hard to get matches
Arena fighters are one of my favorite genres so I'm pretty hype
heat the soul and blade of fate were so good wish they would just expand on those or even make direct sequels
“These aren’t fighting games!” Injustice exists.
😂😂😂 big facts.
Seen more people doom over this game in the fgc. Then seeing people in the fgc hype up the upcoming hunter game fighting game. Granted it doesn’t look that good visually but it’s by the people who did MVC3 and Tatsunoko vs Capcom. But anyway Im excited for bleach 🫡
What got me into bleach fighting game was the one they made for DS.
Imma be real I hate fighting games cuz it’s just constant skill gaps online those no life individual are enjoying cuz they can play this for more than 80 hours while those who have things to do and like playing more than one game is struggling cuz all it is hard work, don’t get me wrong sometimes fighting games are hype and fun to watch but it’s less enjoyable from a casual point of view
I feel that.
Used to have time hitting the lab in fighters, but ever since I got 2 jobs, I've had less time = less growth
The fgc will glaze sparking zero, power stone, bushido blade, and many other pre 2010 arena fighters because thats before global brainrot propaganda turned them into mindless arena fighter hating drones that literally helped tank fighting game genre from the most popular gaming genre to barely surviving with their antics about staying in the 90s style of combat for literal ever.
just say the words "arena fighter" and watch them flip a lid go into a frenzy and in the same breath watch them glaze a hopeful power stone 3 or any other pre 2010 arena fighter like custom robo, or heavy metal on the dreamcast, or virtual-on.
Arena fighters have been trash for a long time, and Capcom is a developer you could trust to make a great arena fighter out of Power Stone, the same way Square Enix made a great arena fighter with the Dissidia Final Fantasy games on PSP. Also 2D fighters are more fun to play than any modern day arena fighter, and they are no longer "90's style of combat", once developers ditched that same mindest it revived the fighting game genre. Now I'm still excited for Bleach but I get the frustration people have with it being an arena fighter, the issue is that there are too many arena fighters coming out that are just trash, if this game is good people will be happy.
I personally have a really special connection to the Bleach series as a whole because it was a show I watched during a very dark period of my life and knowing that the first console game we are getting for it after 13 years is going to possibly be yet another Arena fighter disappoints. The reason being the history of Arena fighters are filled with lazy cash grabs that barely put any effort into making themselves appealing to people who really care about the source material and are used to really prey on your money. It happened to me with Jump Force and a lot of other series who instead of getting fleshed out genuine video games instead got the same rehashed arena fighter for the billionth time. It never feels like there is love put into an arena fighter and it instead just feels like a “here man damn!!” Type of deal. So as both a fan of the bleach series and an avid fighting game player I am really not too excited for how this game is going to pan out however I will still pay attention because I am a fan of bleach
As a person that likes fighting games,As long as every character doesn’t play the same & you actually have to press different buttons to do cool combos thats a win in my book (I liked Kill la kill if & Ones justice)
If the FGC hates it, it will probably be great.
Exactly fcg and esports are cancer to good games
To Sparking Zero & the Bleach game…
You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of competitive fighter
I'll wait and see what they do and when it's out I'll make my decision.
But from the trailer it does look like it might be an arena fighter. However it could still be a good arena fighter.
if bleach turns out like burst limit I will lose my mind I loved that game on the xbox 360 playing super sayian 2 gohan the beam clashes and everything it was perfect damn near
I hope it ends up well
I love Bleach and fighting games
I find that a component of the hate arena fighters get is that they tend to not be as hyperbalanced as most other fighting games especially now, but this hyperemphasis on balance pretty frequently removes a lot of really fun maneuvers preempts the idea of intentionally overpowered boss characters or underpowered joke characters altogether, and never actually stops the issue of the meta stagnating as players just find the most overpowered characters and strategies and repeat ad naseum eschewing balance in favour of say adaptational loyalty or just fun factor is essentially a lateral move as far as how repetitive and stale metas go. Plus matchmaking filters are a thing and have been for awhile even alternate versions of characters where one is the competitive balanced version and the other is a boss variant have also existed for ages so there is a way to have one's cake and eat it too but it just never gets implemented anymore, maybe due to development costs but still it bites.
I find it tragic that bleach's biggest criticism - that it could never escape the Soul Society arc - is proven so, so true by the marketing so far for this game: WE HAVE SEEN MORE OF THIS GAME'S HUD AND MECHANICS THAN SPARKING ZERO BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE SOUL SOCIETY ARC
if the game doesn't ship with sternritters or tybw stuff at launch, it'll be such a pain in the ass, since that's the main reason I'd care. Not to mention the fact that there's basically no way they have the budget for a big enough roster to be worth the full price they inevitably charge
Why does everything need to be hyper competitive lol I’m so hype just to play through bleach and I’ll be even more hype if the gameplay is solid and fun.
Because we want something to do after completing the story, the game being competitive adds replay value when we play online. If it's not good the online community will die off and there will be nobody to play against.
@@ChrisMS0815 but that doesn’t need to be everything is my point.
Im glad someone's putting respect on the ninja storm games cause they're actually insanely deep. The depth comes from understanding the lore of the characters. Might guy, for example, gains a "secret" air dash cancel mechanic in 8 gates that gives him looney toons level mobility and infinite combo potential, he also gets tag fighter air combos/jump cancels.
Might Guy after awakening is my worst nightmare ☠️☠️
Eight gates guy is just a demon lmao
I'm in the minority of actually liking Connections. Outside of the issues with lobbies I think Connections combat system is one of the most fun.
I think a 3d Bleach game like Soul Caliber would be hype. We will never get that sadly.
Arena fighters are the "perfect" format for shonen battle manga series, the problem is the vast majority of them are horrible.
But if they take good care of the game and the series like DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 then we have an amazing game that can last for a long time.
I hope BLEACH has that type of treatment with tons of combat mechanics and a realistic portrayal of what a BLEACH fight is.
If you're into Jojos you can play All Star Battle R, I'm sure it's a better option than Jump Force
It's unplayable online unfortunately and nobody wants to play offline 😂
@@RealMikeHollow oh that sucks, I hope they start making rollback netcode a priority for other anime fighters too someday
My issue is how quickly they fall off. Outside of Naruto’s franchise of arena fighters and the DBBT games, other ones (to my knowledge) are often of lesser quality in terms of its systems and mechanical depth that end with the players leaving or the game being shut down.
I really do want to get into arena fighters, but I’m worried that my money will be wasted on a product that either isn’t finished, or so boring that I’d drop it, and only hear of it again when the servers go down.
Its sad how ppl just complain complain complain. Just be glad we are getting a new game at all.
The bleach power system is very intricate. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Also, some of the powers can intermingle. All they have to do is understand the power system with super vision of course and you will have a very fun battle system
Couldnt care less about fgc, anime games are not as fun when there 2d and you dont even feel any uniqueness to the small amount of characters you get. If you want to brawl in 2d go play a 2d fighter. Arena fighters arent perfetct but atleast you can play them have fun and atleast feel like you're in the anime.
I love the storm games I wish it was at EVO and CEO and Combo Breaker but maybe dragon ball zero and this bleach game will bring fourth a competitive scene at these major tournaments spots
Personally, there are too many arena fighting games, but Bleach is one of those series that can benefit from it.
I am sick and tired of the fgc not considering arena fighters as fighting games. Im happy more people are pushing back against this.
I have no idea how you can look at arena fighters like Storm 4, Kill La Kill If, Sparking Zero/Budokai Tenkaichi, and ESPECIALLY Gundam EXVS, and say they aren't fighting games.
Just because something isn't a "traditional" like Street Fighter or Tekken, doesn't mean its not a fighting game. Hell, why tf do you think they're referred to as Arena _Fighters?_
Dude! Burst Limit is arguably the most fun I had in a Dragonball game outside of DBFZ. And Burst Limit is one of these games that hardly anyone seems to know. And its such a goodie. If only more anime games played like that.
I dont give a crap about the FGC being angry, i just wanted a Bleach fighting game, the first we've had in years, they dont have to play the game if they don't want to
Honestly im just glad we got a bleach game
We should be glad that we getting a new bleach game after all these years since Soul Resurrection. If ppl complaining about arena fighters (casuals) then they need to move to mobile games fr. Also shout out to burst limit one of the rares❤
We're going to be waiting 2 years to not even get 50 characters that we want from the anime/manga
I think the reason most of us are disappointed about this is because it seems every single anime game is made a default arena fighter, which is even worse considering 90% of them are published by Bandai Namco
Personally I like the Musou approach of Bleach Soul Resurrection for the PS3 and even the One Piece Pirate Warriors series, even games like Kakarot that while not a masterpiece at least tried to do something different
Arena fighting games are real fighting games too I don't care what fgc say screw em.
A type of fighting game yes but not the good kind.
Honestly. I want Sparking and This Game to save Arena Fighters.
Because you're right. The complexities of Arena is not the complex of the combos but from the overall mechanics of the game
I agree with with you in the critique of arena fighters. Overall nowadays they haven't been for me for a while now. Jump force was a tragedy for me because I loved seeing Hokuto no Ken and Ryo Saeba in a fighting game but the game was gawful.
I await your take on Sparking Zero before I potentially buy it
The thing that often bothers me about these arena fighters are that due to being conditioned to them generally being bad or mediocre at best I am left wondering if it would have been better as an traditional 2d or 3d fighting game.
A My Hero Academia game with Dragon Ball Fighterz graphics and gameplay would be AWESOME.
A 3d Tekken inspired Kengan Ashura game could be great as well.
How about a Jump vs game that played like either MvC2 or CvS2? That would blow people's minds.
Hey Mike, whats the name of the music in the background this video
Heat of the Soul 4 - BGM 18 ☝🏾
Im just done hearing about anime arena fighters. Its like COD at this point.
I think the main reason why they aren’t happy is because of the already lackluster reputation arena fighters have so it’s just easy to jump on this game and already get mad at it however while I think it isn’t a GOOD mindset I see why they say they because the only well made arena fighters are either the most popular ones or the most dead(online wise) ones
It’s hard to express my full opinion on it in just a comment section so I am pretty vague about it
Arena fighters can be fun, but due to the lopsided ratio they have, it deters me. I can only think of 2 arena fighters that i genuinely enjoyed and thats Tenkaichi and Dissidia/012. It is sadly one of those g that is really good or really bad.
Thanks for news
As they say everything that shimmers ain't gold. It was 50/50 for the new bleach game to be a arena fighter or a legit fighting game. I do want to see more of the game to cast judgment on it. I want to know game mechanics, final roster count, costumes/customization, great single player content, and a solid practice mode
I don't care what the FGC thinks. I just want a real single player Bleach game. They ruin every other fighting game they touch and people who simply like to casually play games always pay the price. They may not like Orihime's boob's jiggle and the game gets censored. Just let us play a game we've beeb clamoring for, for 13 years in piece. I don't want to play with other people. I just want to enjoy it.
I don't think this is gonna be a single player Bleach game primarily. It does look like a fighting game from what I can see along the lines of Ninja Storm. I don't think the FGC are against boob jiggle though 😂 they've been campaigning against Mortal Kombat being more censored so you don't have to worry about that.
@RealMikeHollow I suppose. It's just this release is really important to me. It's a real game of my favorite anime of all time, one that we haven't gotten in 13 years and I just want to sit back and play it casually. People care so much about beating each other in games instead of sitting back and enjoying the game.
Well if they made a 2d fighter with dragonball characters they can definitely make a 2d fighter with bleach characters who have an insane depth in their movesets. It would be a waste to drop all that in the limiting environment of an arena fighting game but i wont complain too much since we are getting a bleach game.
Anime licensed games have been casual afternoon entertainment in Japan ever since Shonen Jump titles came out on the Famicom. People need to keep the expectations low, because wanting the PS2 fma titles to play like DMC or have a Bleach fighter as fluent as Soul Calibur is quite a high bar to reach.
The only times when they had trials to give you an incentive; Elemental Gelade, and Bleach: Heat the Soul. Bleach GC probably does have combos if you tinker with it, but that was a Japan only title that remained in obscurity in front of the popularity Clash of Ninja received due to the first two getting localized. To this day, it doesn't have any combo videos.
For the show itself, I love it and it's cool, but I am still watching through it. I didn't catch up yet.
A Bleach blade battler 3rd would be amazing. I don't know the competitive side of things but it was a fun party game.
I think it's 100% valid for people to not be optimistic about this game out of the get-go. I myself am not. After all, anime arena fighters do not have a good track record besides Naruto and Dragon Ball, so it'd be wise to maintain low expectations to avoid being disappointed.
Having said that, although i love the Budokai Tenkaichi series, I'd still rather have a more traditional fighting game for Bleach, since I'm part of the FGC, I really hope that this game surprises me. Bleach is my favorite of the Big 3 anime by FAR, so I'd love if we could have a good Bleach game after so long. So far, the game is looking kinda cool, but I'll still maintain low expectations since, at the end of the day, it is an arena fighter.
I'll like it if its fast and fluid. Everytime I've played something like Storm 4 I feel so slow and clunky
It's 100% an Arena fighter game.
I just hope it wont be trash.