LeBron has 4 MVP’s in five seasons. While we can debate that he should have more, we may be able to say the same for Michael, also. But, yeah, he won four in five seasons.
Mvps are such a silly way to compare players. I would rather see top vote getters on all nba because that’s by coaches. Who cares what a bunch of journalists think
@@lorenzfortuna7297 mj was also robbed of a mvp, its called voters fatigue where the fans want to see someone else win instead of a single person year after year
I was about to get on here and try my best to nicely inform you that lebron has 4 mvps and should have at the very least 10 .. but yall took care of that already 🤣🤦🏻♂️
Ppl talk about stats like they’re just pointless numbers. But they actually tell how good a player actually is. Checking all of those boxes must be the hardest thing to accomplish in the NBA. That’s the definition of carrying a team and dominating.
What I’m saying. Like how do you win games? Just dribble the ball all game like a 2k playmaker? *Or actually score, rebound, and make plays offensively and defensively?* How do you win scoring titles, assist champ, rebound champ? How do you even win games?
@@TheSands83 Jordan is not even close to Lebron as a defender. Look who he’s defending. Not just his defensive stats. Look who Lebron has locked down. Look at the most clutch defensive plays he’s made. And on top of that he guards all 5 positions when MJ only had to guard his own position. Context is a killer!
3 out of 8 sounds bad but to add some perspective, in that 8 year Finals stretch he was on the better team only twice. Dallas in 2011 and San Antonio 2013 and even that’s debatable. The only other time that he was on the better team was in 2020, which is outside that 8 year stretch.
This perspective is difficult for a lot of people. The Dallas 2011 team is highly underrated. They had a great team full of previous all stars at between prime and twilight such as Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion, and Tyson Chandler.
I'd say his team were better on paper in 3 Finals apperances, 2011, 2012, and 2020 (the only Finals where he's just expected to get a ring by allll), 2013 is a close one. And there are also 3 Finals where his chance of winning was sooo miniscule, 2007, 2016, and 2018, and let's add 2017 right there but I still think they could've atleast push it to 6.
@@ibrahimabah833 That’s prime KD, prime Russ, prime IBAKA and 6th man of the year Harden, the guy who averaged 36ppg and 7.5 assists in 2019. That team had 3 future MVP, and a 2x Block champ, they were more talented, Bosh is overated and Wade was on the decline already in 2012 with knee injuries .
respect brother♥️💪 i'm a bron fan, but mj has the greatest legacy, its overall, success, accomplishments, individual records, impact but honestly i hope some mj fans will not offended but lebron is better individually, he can do all can play five positions, can defend five positions, yup lebron is not the best at a single thing, but he's one of the best at everything,i don't know man, i hate comparing, i want to choose lebron but on the other hand i want to choose also mj, but set aside the comparing and appreciate their greatness
@@rhowj7335 well Statistically speaking, stats that are better than MJ are Cumulative stats which has to do with his longevity if you are looking at per game stats there is no question that MJ have way better per game stats, some stats that are relative to a players position or role on the court also need to take into account, example you would not expect MJ to have higher assist pg over Lebron and you would not expect Lebron the have higher PPG over MJ so In terms of analytics and per game stats No doubt Jordan is above Lebron except for Assist PG, RPG and I think FG%. MJ is above Lebron In PPG, SPG, BPG, FT and he has way fewer turnovers. MJ is the Only player to won Defensive player of the year, all categories of MVP, Steal Champion, Scoring champion and won the Dunk Contest in a single season. do what you want with that.
@@marcel3942 nah, it was definitely the media continuously calling lebron his “father figure” I woulda left too, tf kinda shit is that for someone who was like 25-26 y/o
lol I don't know many bigger Bron supporters than myself so I GOTTA say, before the video even start, ain't NO way that quote belong by KG head 'cause I know he ain't say it 😂😂😂😂
When lebron James brakes Kareem all time scoring record his name will be tops in the history of the NBA better than Jordan Kobe Durant ... Bron is a complete basketball player
Hell never be better than his idol. He needs a left hand 1st this bball. His fundamentals are a joke compared to jordan. Great player bigger n stronger than Jordan but not better n never was more skilled
Jordan played 15 seasons taking a year brake in 93-94 and another 3 year brake from 98 to 2001 winning 6 championships in 6 years. Lebron had played 18 years going to 19 with no brakes in between, has appeared in 10 finals, from 2011 to 2018 he played every finals on those seasons thats 8 straight finals appearances, thats not a walk in the park. And he is not retired yet. He is clearly the best player ever.
9 straight finals. Mj was out 1.5 years the first time. He came back like 2/3 of the season and got knocked out by a penny and shaq Orlando magic in the playoffs.
@@waynetroutfish142 you're like a drunk chick in the bar you just want attention 😂 you compare Dean Smith and Doug Collins to Phil Jackson? 😭😂🤔 Good luck with that 🤡
MVP? That's ridiculous because that's dependent on the talent of players you're playing against. These players that Lebron play against a more talented than those that Micheal Jordan have played against and that actually a testament to how much the NBA has progressed and the enormous pool of talent that's in the NBA now. Jordan was the GOAD of his era and now Lebron is the GOAT of his era.
Debate is based on people's opinion, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT but just cannot admit it, and those people from Jordan era is just fighting for their belief that MJ is the GOAT because of course he is the best player in the best team on their time. Same as LeBron fans, they are saying LeBron is GOAT because they know that he is statistically and for all the things that the man can do inside the court.
Jordan is the best ever. His peak was incredible. Lebron's longevity and consistency coupled with his all-around stats (including legacy stats like nearly passing Kareem in all-time scoring or going for 10k boards and dimes) make him the owner of probably the greatest career ever.
Could've been better if you would just show the clips of those players saying their statement rather than you saying it first before you show the clip of the exact same statement. Redundancy and will make the viewers skip some parts of your vid.
They should remake this video with Bron at 37 and then another one with Bron at 38. The only people left who actually truly believe that MJ is the goat are MJ fanatics who won't look at anyone else. I was and still am one of MJs biggest fans. He was great but come on, MJ would have no rings without Pippin and The Worm and all those other good supporting cast players. The GOAT debate is a comparison between individuals, NOT TEAMS. LeBron is obviously the better player. It's not close.
@Dante Witthashii Thats his point lmao. Nice showing of bias by bringing up 2020 Dwight and rondo in comparison to pippen when they weren’t even kukoc at that point. His point is all rings are contextual and you gotta look at individual game
@DemonTime kyrie and Kevin love are not as good as Scottie Pippin and Dennis Rodman STOP Maybe Dwayne Wade and Chris bosh but not Kyrie and Kevin Love just take the exit
Suggestion: For the sake of efficiency and to avoid being redundant, instead of saying the exact same thing the player is going to say, and then playing the player clip with the same exact words, try this, “Kyrie had this to say…” then play the clip. Take it or leave it. Your content is dope. Much love.
@Dante Witthashii Correct Thanks for making my point I'm glad you agree. When you are comparing players and trying to decide who was better it's extremely difficult. You cannot say player A is better than player B cause his TEAM won more titles. If that were true, guys like Satch Sanders (9) and Sam Jones (8) would be in the GOAT conversation. Stats play an important role is this determination. Besides the film it's all we have to chronicle what the player did. I personally watched Wilt destroy Russell for a decade. It was embarrassing, yet Russell won 11 titles and Chamberlain only won a couple. Is Russell better than Chamberlain? NO, Russell couldn't hold Chamberlain's jock strap.
@Joshua Prilaman lebrons not getting another MVP or championship. He'll be retiring soon and the world will start looking for the next player to compare the GOAT MJ to.
@@raymondsublett3108 when did I say he would get either one again? I was correcting a mistake my guy, trying to start a discussion that doesn’t have a premise.
It depends on your mentality of what it takes to be the goat! For me all of the great players are standing next to each other and not above and below. We have only two real rosters, a regular one and a great one. We will always have great players, stop comparing them and give them their dues!
Bron has 4 mvp now 4 Rings 4 Finals MVP number 3 All-time scorer chasing Kareem now only player to come back 3-1 10 appearance to the Finals Straight Out HIGHSCHOOL didn't go to college it's time for u to do another video my Brother #GOAT🏆TALK
There’s way more talent today and better teams . Maybe not better teams but a lot of teams are good compared to the 90’s. All you gotta do now too is have a good record and be the best player on that team and you will get mvp
Quoting lengthy paragraphs of players, just to roll the ACTUAL video clip of the real person saying the quote immediately after... a shameless way to stretch the length of this video. At least 2 minutes of this video was completely pointless. Also LeBron is the GOAT.
"Will always choose Jordan over Lebron." Well. That hasnt aged well. Although it was largely done to sell Pippen's book, it does shine a bright light onto the factor of how hard is it to construct a roster around a star player. Quite honestly, the more time that passes, the more credit I give to Jerry Kraus and the less I give to Jordan. Jordan was miserable to work with, ruined as many careers as he elevated, and was an around the clock headache for his GM and his coach. LeBron elevated nearly everyone he played with, was outspoken with team direction, but rarely in a negative way, and has always been a net positive for any organization that wanted to meet him halfway. Jordan was a diva, a talented one, but a limiting one. LeBron has always been a leader with foresight, team chemistry, and success in mind. Jordan was content with getting his own and getting his accolades for nearly a decade until his GM gave him everything he wanted and needed, ruining and blaming other players on the way. LeBron led a poorly constructed team to the finals in, what, his 3rd year? If Jordan was even twice as egotistical and self centered as LeBron James, he wouldn't have quit basketball 3 times, and likely would have rivaled Russell in championships. It's a shame to see talent go to waste, and that shouldn't be glorified.
5x MVP 6x FMVP 10x Scoring Title 3x Steal Champion 9x All-first Defensive DPOY ROTY 30.1 PPG 6 rings 2-3 peat, 6 FMVP, 6 Scoring Title and 6 All-first Defensive in all of those championship runs. If there’s a player that had or exceeds that accolades in all of his championship runs then I will say he is the goat.
MJ was lousy before Pip. Many don’t know it, and most just don’t want to admit it. I was a big fan of MJ, but Pip has always been my favorite of all time. MJ’s arrogance and selfishness was always his downfall before the Pip. That “Last Dance” told the whole truth. Where are MJ’s legacies? He has none playing 🏀!
@@jacoricksudds2183because you named 5 seasons and he's played over 21 seasons 😂 dudes like you need to let it go .mj played 15 seasons,retired twice and only won 5..meaning he lost more then he won and isn't even top 5 in any statistical category 😂😂
U Bronsexuals be so sensitive to facts😂😂😂 ,21 seasons, 4 rings, the last one being a summer league mickey mouse ring, done missed the whole playoffs 3 times since being a Laker, and woulda missed it this year if it wasn't for a bs rule change (play-in) 6 finals losses, like 4 SWEEPS on his record, and 2 meltdowns in '09 and '11... mannn I'm done.. keep talkin bout stats tho😂😂😂
When they changed who can vote for MVPs MJ fan boys blackballed LBJ. Bron literally takes lottery teams to Chips and when he leaves they are back in lottery. MJ couldn’t do that for Washington. That’s the history you guy selectively leave out.
You selectively left out he annually stacks the deck every year for chips....Nobody has had more help then Lebron he's had multiple 24-25pt scorers....MJ or Kobe never had that
@@Bancos87 "MJ and Kobe never had that" So you're going to pretend Kobe never had Shaq. Scratch that, you're going to pretend Kobe wasn't 2ND FIDDLE to Shaq. GTFOH with that dumb shit.
@@Bancos87 omfg…you can’t be in your right mind? Kobe played with fucking Shaquille O’Neal😂😂Shaq has every single finals mvp trophy from winning with Kobe. And mj had Scottie. Shaq and scottie not only played offense
These videos would be so much better if you didn’t read the quote of the nba legend before playing the clip of them actually saying. IMO. Good content thought.
😂😂🤣The narrator saying Kyle Lowry quote verbatim right before playing the exact quote is hilarious. This video confuses me cause LBJ has 4 MVP’s Pippen was an old quote but these other clips are way after that so idk what research he did but tighten up
what isaiah meant is that basketball is a team sport lebron is a better team player which make him the better "Basketball' player and he's right up there with the best 1 on 1 players
Kobe was the closest thing to Jordan, Bron is unique as he does/ has done everything from being the scorer, rebounder, shot blocker, facilitator and on ball defender his team needs. I still have MJ as #1 all time but I have to put Bron at a close 2nd
Lebron is an absolute beast and guys like him are incomparably great. However, Jordan’s career was art. 6 out of 6 with 6 finals mvp’s and his last FG for the Bulls clinching the title. You just can’t match that kind of glory.
One of the greats. A true legend. But I still have to Give the God title to MJ. The eye test and pure skill of MJ for me. Lebron is definitely on mount rushmore
My biggest argument is always against the "6-0 in the Finals", as though MJ wasn't trying to get to the Finals is his other 9 seasons. Isn't 10 Finals appearances pretty incredible? To me that's compatible to Winning 6. Just playing devil's advocate here
If LeBron hadn’t made the finals all those times and lost in the first round or didn’t make the playoffs the narrative would be “LeBron can’t get out of the first round” lol smh they penalize him for making it it’s crazy..
You get no chip for losing! Jerry west has 9 appearances and 1 win... you don't bring him up! Cause losses don't matter... who has the most finals losses? Labron James... with 33! He recruits players to his teams... theres a lot of men who don't have rings cause of Mike! There's a lot of men that have rings because of James! Think about that... Labron brought cookies, Mike stole souls! 30.1ppg regular season average and 33.4ppg playoffs... the best ever 19 years AFTER retirement! He was the oldest player to score 50 points at 35! Oldest MVP EVER at 35! The oldest scoring champion at 35! IT'S WAY MORE THAN THE NUMBER 6... SIMPLETONS ALWAYS bring up 6 rings! Not 2 threepeats... not the fact that in 1988 he win scoring champion, league MVP, AND DPLOY! TEN SCORING TITLES? Homie there's so many numbers when talking about Mike... but 6 is all you see? 9 GAME WINNING SHOTS? NOT COUNTING THE ONE HE SUNK TO WIN THE NCAA TITLE AS A FRESHMAN! COME ON MAN... MIKE IS THE NUMBERS!
@@jjwithtwojs1679 10 scoring titles? 9 time first team all defense? 1988 he received steals title, LEAGUE MVP, DPLOY, AND THE SCORING TITLE! 5x league MVP! 6x NBA champ, 6x FMVP, 3x steal title, 2x slam dunk title, most points in a playoff game 63, in a series loss to Larry and the Celtics! Best defense in the league that year (Celtics)... jersey retired by the BULLS AND HEAT! NCAA CHAMPION, hit the game winning shot, AS A FRESHMAN! 9 game winning shots in NBA, the most ever! Only received gold in the Olympics, the tournament of America's, and the Pan American games! All Jordan did was win... he didn't chase players or teams, he chased himself! Who knows, if his father wasn't murdered what might have been... Playing as a point guard... Mike averaged 33.6 ppg 11.4 rpg 10.8 apg 2.9 spg 0.8 bpg 51.6 fg% And 10 triple doubles in 11 games, 7 straight! Now what does Mike have over Labron? Please, let's talk genius...
@@nharvey0076 nah. One sweep after losing 3 consecutive yrs?! 🤣🤣🤣. And then beating us after we’ve been to 5 STRAIGHT Conference Finals and are older and worn out? Yeah ok……🤦🏽♂️
@@jaydenvert9168 He should have 7. Believe me or not, but i can give you the seasons if you need to have it. Also should have an DPOY, well they gave it Marc Gasol who dont even made the first team all defense. Thats, what happens, if the media who just covered Jordan are voting, they protected his legacy.
LeBron James doesn't have to catch Jordan in the number of MVP awards. MJ was a scorer that's it, end of the conversation. Lebron scores, assists, rebounds and defends.
Can you imagine if he played with a teammate like Pippen, Grant , Rodman, Harper and the list goes on for the majority of his career and also played with veteran teammates who checked their egos at the door instead of what he had to deal with during his first 3 or 4 years in the league there’s no telling how many championships he would have let alone the astronomical number of appearances
Could you imagine MJ playing with Chris Bosh,D-Wade, Kyrie, Kevin love, Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook and only has 4 rings in 20 years! Only 4 rings in 20 .yrs with all that help.wow talk about under achieving. S m h!
@@denniscox1014 Yes I imagine it would go like the first seven or eight years of his career until he got Phil Jackson who convinced him to value his teammates and get them involved in a team concept what good is leading the league in scoring every year when you’re getting bounced in the first round. So now can you imagine King James playing for a hall of fame coach and having a competent general manager who would pick the right players he had to be the best player on the team and be the GM as well.
@@BassGodsdoes unstoppable mean getting swept in the 1st round by Boston and not even having a +500 record for 3 or 4 years and losing over and over in the early rounds?
@@denniscox1014 Grant Pippen Kerr Paxton Kukoc Armstrong Harper Rodman etc etc. Howard was past his prime when he play with bron. Russ was more of a negative with all the turnovers and not scoring much. And Mello was only there because him and Bron are close friends. He should have been retired and was basically a bench player. MJ had way better teammates and needed them to get over 500 and win in the playoffs. He also had Phil jackson Doug Collins and Dean smith at UNC for 3 years. Lebron had to carry rookie coaches and garbage cans to the finals every year until he left for miami.
Only idiots believe lebron is the goat.. Most NBA legends and sports analysts consider mj as goat, 73% of todays NBA players voted mj as goat, NBA itself declared mj as the goat.. LeBron fans dumb opinion can't change that fact
I think Jordan was one of greatest but I don’t think he ever had to face a team like the GSW or a dynasty like the spurs alone with no help. Yes Jordan was great but his support system was undeniably one of the greatest helps in NBA history. 3 HOFs on a team should be nothing short of a few rings. Even that first 3 peat Jordan had great help on the wings and bigs who knew their role. Hate to say that Lebron only had a real team in Miami and just proved how great he was with winning with a team the cavaliers that year.
Not just GS and SA but that Dallas team was stacked and so was the Boston teams with 4 HOFers Rondo Pierce Garnett and Allen. Plus the rest or that was crazy as well. How lebron owned Toronto for those years bouncing them over and over was crazy, you hear about that alot.
You're really quoting the comment in text, reading it out loud, then playing the actual quote. That's about as redundant and inefficient as make a video can be.
Everyone knows that Lebron is the best basketball player to ever play no other player has a more complete game the only reason it’s a debate is because Jordan played during a time where not every game was recorded and put under a microscope, also Jordan’s Prime started during a time where the league was fairly weak and him and the bulls could dominate
Pippen called Lebron the GOAT several times, and called him the best player ever even more....first in 2011 during the Bulls series, when he did not win a single title yet....and you know what? he was right in 2011....he was the best player that we have ever seen until that point, but not even close to be the greatest just yet....he needed individual and team accomplishments to reach that...in my mind, Lebron became the GOAT after the 2018 playoff run where we have seen the best player ever in any era...hard to debate that...GOAT debate is always about what you prefer more...for me, the best player argument is clearly Lebron and Jordan 2nd, the greatest/most iconic player is Jordan 1st, Lebron 2nd, but in my mind, you gotta give the edge to the best player ever...
LeBron has 4 MVP’s in five seasons. While we can debate that he should have more, we may be able to say the same for Michael, also. But, yeah, he won four in five seasons.
An individual award
@LoreLine he’s definitely not that one of yea
Mvps are such a silly way to compare players. I would rather see top vote getters on all nba because that’s by coaches. Who cares what a bunch of journalists think
We can also argue that he deserved the MVP in 2011 over Drose... which makes it 5 straight. Prime Lebron was unreal.
@@lorenzfortuna7297 mj was also robbed of a mvp, its called voters fatigue where the fans want to see someone else win instead of a single person year after year
I was about to get on here and try my best to nicely inform you that lebron has 4 mvps and should have at the very least 10 .. but yall took care of that already 🤣🤦🏻♂️
He probably got it confused with Kobe....RIP
True. if the season awards were fair, lebron would have at least doubled the MVPs.
Name the other 6 he should’ve gotten so i can laugh real quick
@@franklynmaldonadogor2 he should've got it over D rose , both of hardens, Giannis , KD, and First year back in Cleveland
@@calealexander7290 thank you for making my day. That was a great joke
Bro what are you talking about Lebron has 4 MVPs
Most likely an older interview
@@lukadonakick8192 it would have to be over 10 years old
Has one of the worst finals record as well
@@shardaejackson this dude is a hater
@@shardaejackson atleast he made the finals that many times
Ppl talk about stats like they’re just pointless numbers. But they actually tell how good a player actually is. Checking all of those boxes must be the hardest thing to accomplish in the NBA. That’s the definition of carrying a team and dominating.
What I’m saying. Like how do you win games? Just dribble the ball all game like a 2k playmaker? *Or actually score, rebound, and make plays offensively and defensively?* How do you win scoring titles, assist champ, rebound champ? How do you even win games?
That’s the definition on being the BEST
@@jaydenvert9168 defense? Lebron needs to work on that🤣 n jordan is better in more categories n has better advanced analytics
@@TheSands83 *Ah yes,* now where did I mention any of that in my comment?
@@TheSands83 Jordan is not even close to Lebron as a defender. Look who he’s defending. Not just his defensive stats. Look who Lebron has locked down. Look at the most clutch defensive plays he’s made. And on top of that he guards all 5 positions when MJ only had to guard his own position. Context is a killer!
3 out of 8 sounds bad but to add some perspective, in that 8 year Finals stretch he was on the better team only twice. Dallas in 2011 and San Antonio 2013 and even that’s debatable. The only other time that he was on the better team was in 2020, which is outside that 8 year stretch.
This perspective is difficult for a lot of people. The Dallas 2011 team is highly underrated. They had a great team full of previous all stars at between prime and twilight such as Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion, and Tyson Chandler.
Are you saying the 2012 thunder were better than the heat 🤨
I'd say his team were better on paper in 3 Finals apperances, 2011, 2012, and 2020 (the only Finals where he's just expected to get a ring by allll), 2013 is a close one. And there are also 3 Finals where his chance of winning was sooo miniscule, 2007, 2016, and 2018, and let's add 2017 right there but I still think they could've atleast push it to 6.
@@ibrahimabah833 That’s prime KD, prime Russ, prime IBAKA and 6th man of the year Harden, the guy who averaged 36ppg and 7.5 assists in 2019. That team had 3 future MVP, and a 2x Block champ, they were more talented, Bosh is overated and Wade was on the decline already in 2012 with knee injuries .
@@Anthonydu01630 yea, they all became greater over time, but during the series, it was obvious that the heat were the better team
bron statistically is the best ever imo, even as an mj fan
respect brother♥️💪 i'm a bron fan, but mj has the greatest legacy, its overall, success, accomplishments, individual records, impact but honestly i hope some mj fans will not offended but lebron is better individually, he can do all can play five positions, can defend five positions, yup lebron is not the best at a single thing, but he's one of the best at everything,i don't know man, i hate comparing, i want to choose lebron but on the other hand i want to choose also mj, but set aside the comparing and appreciate their greatness
@@rhowj7335 well Statistically speaking, stats that are better than MJ are Cumulative stats which has to do with his longevity if you are looking at per game stats there is no question that MJ have way better per game stats, some stats that are relative to a players position or role on the court also need to take into account, example you would not expect MJ to have higher assist pg over Lebron and you would not expect Lebron the have higher PPG over MJ so In terms of analytics and per game stats No doubt Jordan is above Lebron except for Assist PG, RPG and I think FG%. MJ is above Lebron In PPG, SPG, BPG, FT and he has way fewer turnovers. MJ is the Only player to won Defensive player of the year, all categories of MVP, Steal Champion, Scoring champion and won the Dunk Contest in a single season. do what you want with that.
@@dreb5776 preach bro
@@dreb5776 nobody gives a fuc* about a dunk contest
Kareem and Wilt, just stop it.
Lost all credit when you said one
All credit
Yup
4 MVPs brother! Nothing but respect for LeBron! A God indeed as he will always be a part of the best top 5 EVERRRRRR!!!!!!
Facts 😂😂
Top 1 lol
Lock top 2
GOAT
Top 2!!!💯💯💯💯
really wanted to click off when you said 1 mvp...bro if you're gonna make a vid about Bron, us fans take everything seriously about the king.
I think Kyrie missed an opportunity, if he had stayed with Lebron they had an opportunity to soo many great things
His ego ruined that. I'm pretty sure he regrets it.
@@marcel3942 nah, it was definitely the media continuously calling lebron his “father figure” I woulda left too, tf kinda shit is that for someone who was like 25-26 y/o
@@derekthefilmguy3120 Cole, you stupid < from the Martin show
lol I don't know many bigger Bron supporters than myself so I GOTTA say, before the video even start, ain't NO way that quote belong by KG head 'cause I know he ain't say it 😂😂😂😂
Lmao imagine being a Lebron supporter
@@shardaejackson imagine getting triggered by someone being a fan of LeBron😂
@@shardaejackson how the hell are you so childish?
This dude said 1
When lebron James brakes Kareem all time scoring record his name will be tops in the history of the NBA better than Jordan Kobe Durant ... Bron is a complete basketball player
No it’s still gone be mj trust me
@@alexp8455 just watch and you'll 👀
Hands down
Hell never be better than his idol. He needs a left hand 1st this bball. His fundamentals are a joke compared to jordan. Great player bigger n stronger than Jordan but not better n never was more skilled
Bro said Bron only got 1 MVP 😂😂..
I know who is this guy? LOL
Jordan played 15 seasons taking a year brake in 93-94 and another 3 year brake from 98 to 2001 winning 6 championships in 6 years.
Lebron had played 18 years going to 19 with no brakes in between, has appeared in 10 finals, from 2011 to 2018 he played every finals on those seasons thats 8 straight finals appearances, thats not a walk in the park. And he is not retired yet. He is clearly the best player ever.
LeBron James never had Scottie pippen or Phil Jackson as a coach😂😂😂
9 straight finals. Mj was out 1.5 years the first time. He came back like 2/3 of the season and got knocked out by a penny and shaq Orlando magic in the playoffs.
@@masterofreason17Phil Jackon Dean Smith and Doug Collins.
@@waynetroutfish142 you're like a drunk chick in the bar you just want attention 😂 you compare Dean Smith and Doug Collins to Phil Jackson? 😭😂🤔 Good luck with that 🤡
Passed everyone in history to be the ALL TIME LEADER SCORER… and still going✨✨✨🏀
That behind the back pass to dwade was crazy. He was facing the other way .
Bron has 4 regular season mvps😂
Can you get an mvp in the NBA
LeBron plays with his team and not yet to be a 1 man show. The young man is out of this world AMAZING 👏 🙌 ❤️
All the players in the NBA had to see that man, and they all knew it!
MVP? That's ridiculous because that's dependent on the talent of players you're playing against. These players that Lebron play against a more talented than those that Micheal Jordan have played against and that actually a testament to how much the NBA has progressed and the enormous pool of talent that's in the NBA now. Jordan was the GOAD of his era and now Lebron is the GOAT of his era.
Really doe. Ion eem debate no mo every generation have they goats
Agreed these players more talented by far these can shoot defend rebound overall hands down
Debate is based on people's opinion, everyone knows LeBron is the GOAT but just cannot admit it, and those people from Jordan era is just fighting for their belief that MJ is the GOAT because of course he is the best player in the best team on their time. Same as LeBron fans, they are saying LeBron is GOAT because they know that he is statistically and for all the things that the man can do inside the court.
LOL WHAT LEBRON GOT 4 MVPS
Jordan is the best ever. His peak was incredible. Lebron's longevity and consistency coupled with his all-around stats (including legacy stats like nearly passing Kareem in all-time scoring or going for 10k boards and dimes) make him the owner of probably the greatest career ever.
That’s the fairest statement on this topic ever. Genius take
I can live with that statement.
Do you think lebron can surpass kareem if kobe dont make his retirement because of injury??🤔🤔🤔🤔
No LBJ by far period unless you're a hater..
@Alexander What does Kobe retiring have to do with it?
Could've been better if you would just show the clips of those players saying their statement rather than you saying it first before you show the clip of the exact same statement. Redundancy and will make the viewers skip some parts of your vid.
Agreed, Gordon. It did get repetitive.
They should remake this video with Bron at 37 and then another one with Bron at 38. The only people left who actually truly believe that MJ is the goat are MJ fanatics who won't look at anyone else. I was and still am one of MJs biggest fans. He was great but come on, MJ would have no rings without Pippin and The Worm and all those other good supporting cast players. The GOAT debate is a comparison between individuals, NOT TEAMS. LeBron is obviously the better player. It's not close.
@Dante Witthashii Thats his point lmao. Nice showing of bias by bringing up 2020 Dwight and rondo in comparison to pippen when they weren’t even kukoc at that point. His point is all rings are contextual and you gotta look at individual game
@Dante Witthashii your logic is blowing my mind
@@ACarter87 just look at his name lebron is living in his head rent free he made his yt name about him lmaoooo
@DemonTime kyrie and Kevin love are not as good as Scottie Pippin and Dennis Rodman STOP
Maybe Dwayne Wade and Chris bosh but not Kyrie and Kevin Love just take the exit
@DemonTime What were they averaging when they were on the same team and what was Jordan,Scottie,and Dennis Rodman were averaging
Saying Lebron only had 1 mvp made your video completely invalid to me
Suggestion: For the sake of efficiency and to avoid being redundant, instead of saying the exact same thing the player is going to say, and then playing the player clip with the same exact words, try this, “Kyrie had this to say…” then play the clip. Take it or leave it. Your content is dope. Much love.
Good stuff.
@Dante Witthashii Correct Thanks for making my point I'm glad you agree. When you are comparing players and trying to decide who was better it's extremely difficult. You cannot say player A is better than player B cause his TEAM won more titles. If that were true, guys like Satch Sanders (9) and Sam Jones (8) would be in the GOAT conversation. Stats play an important role is this determination. Besides the film it's all we have to chronicle what the player did. I personally watched Wilt destroy Russell for a decade. It was embarrassing, yet Russell won 11 titles and Chamberlain only won a couple. Is Russell better than Chamberlain? NO, Russell couldn't hold Chamberlain's jock strap.
Russell is way better, chamberlain is a stat padder
Agreee!!
Lebron only needs 1 more MVP and he’ll have 5 regular season mvps. He has 2 back to back in Cleveland and when he went Miami he got 2 back to back.
@Joshua Prilaman lebrons not getting another MVP or championship. He'll be retiring soon and the world will start looking for the next player to compare the GOAT MJ to.
@@raymondsublett3108 when did I say he would get either one again? I was correcting a mistake my guy, trying to start a discussion that doesn’t have a premise.
Micheal jeans also great player bro write that too in your introduction next time if MJ video you make 😅😂😂😂😂
That title though👿👿👿
Bron got a 4x4 meaning he got 4 mvps and 4 finals mvp so how tf did u get just 1? 😂🤣😂maybe he meant 1 scoring title? But I doubt it
Yea maybe that’s what he meant but huge mistake
I legit stopped watching video after that. this video maker a casual bum. I'm out man.
@@krp6680 Damn 💀💀
It depends on your mentality of what it takes to be the goat! For me all of the great players are standing next to each other and not above and below. We have only two real rosters, a regular one and a great one. We will always have great players, stop comparing them and give them their dues!
Those players respect each other but fans tend to divide the players and diminish one just to uplift another
Just a small piece of constructive criticism: no need to read the quote if you’re going to play the clip. Other than that, great video.
Bron has 4 mvp now 4 Rings 4 Finals MVP number 3 All-time scorer chasing Kareem now only player to come back 3-1 10 appearance to the Finals Straight Out HIGHSCHOOL didn't go to college it's time for u to do another video my Brother #GOAT🏆TALK
There’s way more talent today and better teams . Maybe not better teams but a lot of teams are good compared to the 90’s. All you gotta do now too is have a good record and be the best player on that team and you will get mvp
Quoting lengthy paragraphs of players, just to roll the ACTUAL video clip of the real person saying the quote immediately after... a shameless way to stretch the length of this video. At least 2 minutes of this video was completely pointless.
Also LeBron is the GOAT.
I just posted a similar comment lol.
Once lebron passes kareem in scoring the whole comparing thing is over.. lebron> mj and kobe
I’m sure he’s already over one of those players you just mentioned, before he even accomplishes that.
Lebron has 4 regular season MVP’s
And 4 finals
"Will always choose Jordan over Lebron." Well. That hasnt aged well. Although it was largely done to sell Pippen's book, it does shine a bright light onto the factor of how hard is it to construct a roster around a star player. Quite honestly, the more time that passes, the more credit I give to Jerry Kraus and the less I give to Jordan. Jordan was miserable to work with, ruined as many careers as he elevated, and was an around the clock headache for his GM and his coach. LeBron elevated nearly everyone he played with, was outspoken with team direction, but rarely in a negative way, and has always been a net positive for any organization that wanted to meet him halfway. Jordan was a diva, a talented one, but a limiting one. LeBron has always been a leader with foresight, team chemistry, and success in mind. Jordan was content with getting his own and getting his accolades for nearly a decade until his GM gave him everything he wanted and needed, ruining and blaming other players on the way. LeBron led a poorly constructed team to the finals in, what, his 3rd year? If Jordan was even twice as egotistical and self centered as LeBron James, he wouldn't have quit basketball 3 times, and likely would have rivaled Russell in championships. It's a shame to see talent go to waste, and that shouldn't be glorified.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Agreed
@@papayani6446 Thank you
At last . Some truth to the debate.
At last . Some truth to the debate.
The move at the end was amazing behind the back between tristan thompson legs drive’s the lane for an and 1 layup
MJ is still laughing and saying hold my beer.
While snorting lines. Yeah
5x MVP
6x FMVP
10x Scoring Title
3x Steal Champion
9x All-first Defensive
DPOY
ROTY
30.1 PPG
6 rings 2-3 peat, 6 FMVP, 6 Scoring Title and 6 All-first Defensive in all of those championship runs. If there’s a player that had or exceeds that accolades in all of his championship runs then I will say he is the goat.
MJ and Scottie made 6 in 8 but before Scottie MJ was 0 and 9
Ok, and Lebron missed the playoffs his first 2 seasons and the past 3 seasons..thats 5 seasons hes missed the playoffs..so wus ya point?
MJ was lousy before Pip. Many don’t know it, and most just don’t want to admit it. I was a big fan of MJ, but Pip has always been my favorite of all time. MJ’s arrogance and selfishness was always his downfall before the Pip. That “Last Dance” told the whole truth. Where are MJ’s legacies? He has none playing 🏀!
@@jacoricksudds2183because you named 5 seasons and he's played over 21 seasons 😂 dudes like you need to let it go .mj played 15 seasons,retired twice and only won 5..meaning he lost more then he won and isn't even top 5 in any statistical category 😂😂
U Bronsexuals be so sensitive to facts😂😂😂 ,21 seasons, 4 rings, the last one being a summer league mickey mouse ring, done missed the whole playoffs 3 times since being a Laker, and woulda missed it this year if it wasn't for a bs rule change (play-in) 6 finals losses, like 4 SWEEPS on his record, and 2 meltdowns in '09 and '11... mannn I'm done.. keep talkin bout stats tho😂😂😂
When they changed who can vote for MVPs MJ fan boys blackballed LBJ. Bron literally takes lottery teams to Chips and when he leaves they are back in lottery. MJ couldn’t do that for Washington. That’s the history you guy selectively leave out.
You selectively left out he annually stacks the deck every year for chips....Nobody has had more help then Lebron he's had multiple 24-25pt scorers....MJ or Kobe never had that
@@Bancos87 "MJ and Kobe never had that"
So you're going to pretend Kobe never had Shaq. Scratch that, you're going to pretend Kobe wasn't 2ND FIDDLE to Shaq. GTFOH with that dumb shit.
@@Bancos87 omfg…you can’t be in your right mind? Kobe played with fucking Shaquille O’Neal😂😂Shaq has every single finals mvp trophy from winning with Kobe. And mj had Scottie. Shaq and scottie not only played offense
When raptors players talk about lebron they have this 1000 yard stare like they've seen some shit
These videos would be so much better if you didn’t read the quote of the nba legend before playing the clip of them actually saying. IMO. Good content thought.
You don't have to read the fucking quote and put the clip. Just put the clip
Exactly 😂😂😂 wasting time for no reason
How tf u say 1 mvp
You can never use Isiah Thomas as a source if Micheal Jordan's name is involved.
😂😂🤣The narrator saying Kyle Lowry quote verbatim right before playing the exact quote is hilarious. This video confuses me cause LBJ has 4 MVP’s Pippen was an old quote but these other clips are way after that so idk what research he did but tighten up
yeah who let this dude make a video without doing research first?... /facepalm
what isaiah meant is that basketball is a team sport lebron is a better team player which make him the better "Basketball' player and he's right up there with the best 1 on 1 players
Isiah is clear on who he thinks is better and he says it is Lebron hands down. And that is the one who beat MJ in the playoffs 3 out of 4 times.
@@allenlucas1676 u sound like a lebron James fangirl. I saw u on another comment.
@@allenlucas1676 Isiah is an all-time great, but he's not exactly objective here.
Did you just say 1 Regular Season MVP? No wonder you dont have subs
Lost me at the Scottie Pippen part
Lebron def should have won more than one but the damn league changed the criteria a few times and gave it to other players
He has 4 mvps lol
@@Assassinkid23 Should have been at least 7.
@@joshuadavidhillmann3 9 at least
Bro you're so funny Bron . Have a 4 season MVP'S 😂😂😂
This video is hilarious!! LOL!!
PIPP & ZEKE HATE MJ THO 🤦🏾♂️
He is great at playing basketball but to call anybody a god is blasphemy we are mortals and everybody knows Isiah and Scottie have beef with Jordan.
had a big impact on the league. closest to jordan and maybe kobe? NOTHIN BUT RESPECT. IK HATERS GONNA HATE🥲
Kobe was the closest thing to Jordan, Bron is unique as he does/ has done everything from being the scorer, rebounder, shot blocker, facilitator and on ball defender his team needs. I still have MJ as #1 all time but I have to put Bron at a close 2nd
Mj was just better scorer and it's bs that lebron never won a dpoy he should've
Lebron is an absolute beast and guys like him are incomparably great. However, Jordan’s career was art. 6 out of 6 with 6 finals mvp’s and his last FG for the Bulls clinching the title. You just can’t match that kind of glory.
What Trip's me out is they forget bout KOBE, this man came to ball. This guy almost killed me
You just said bron has 1 mvp????
One of the greats. A true legend. But I still have to Give the God title to MJ. The eye test and pure skill of MJ for me. Lebron is definitely on mount rushmore
Duuude! Brilliant way to get comments 💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 #1MVP
Dillion Brooks is a new member of this list lmao
My biggest argument is always against the "6-0 in the Finals", as though MJ wasn't trying to get to the Finals is his other 9 seasons. Isn't 10 Finals appearances pretty incredible? To me that's compatible to Winning 6. Just playing devil's advocate here
If LeBron hadn’t made the finals all those times and lost in the first round or didn’t make the playoffs the narrative would be “LeBron can’t get out of the first round” lol smh they penalize him for making it it’s crazy..
You get no chip for losing! Jerry west has 9 appearances and 1 win... you don't bring him up! Cause losses don't matter... who has the most finals losses? Labron James... with 33! He recruits players to his teams... theres a lot of men who don't have rings cause of Mike! There's a lot of men that have rings because of James! Think about that... Labron brought cookies, Mike stole souls! 30.1ppg regular season average and 33.4ppg playoffs... the best ever 19 years AFTER retirement! He was the oldest player to score 50 points at 35! Oldest MVP EVER at 35! The oldest scoring champion at 35!
IT'S WAY MORE THAN THE NUMBER 6... SIMPLETONS ALWAYS bring up 6 rings! Not 2 threepeats... not the fact that in 1988 he win scoring champion, league MVP, AND DPLOY! TEN SCORING TITLES? Homie there's so many numbers when talking about Mike... but 6 is all you see? 9 GAME WINNING SHOTS? NOT COUNTING THE ONE HE SUNK TO WIN THE NCAA TITLE AS A FRESHMAN! COME ON MAN... MIKE IS THE NUMBERS!
Finals is a team stat Finals mvp isn’t that is the only thing Jordan has over Lebron
@@jjwithtwojs1679
10 scoring titles? 9 time first team all defense? 1988 he received steals title, LEAGUE MVP, DPLOY, AND THE SCORING TITLE! 5x league MVP! 6x NBA champ, 6x FMVP, 3x steal title, 2x slam dunk title, most points in a playoff game 63, in a series loss to Larry and the Celtics! Best defense in the league that year (Celtics)... jersey retired by the BULLS AND HEAT! NCAA CHAMPION, hit the game winning shot, AS A FRESHMAN! 9 game winning shots in NBA, the most ever! Only received gold in the Olympics, the tournament of America's, and the Pan American games! All Jordan did was win... he didn't chase players or teams, he chased himself! Who knows, if his father wasn't murdered what might have been...
Playing as a point guard... Mike averaged
33.6 ppg
11.4 rpg
10.8 apg
2.9 spg
0.8 bpg
51.6 fg%
And 10 triple doubles in 11 games, 7 straight! Now what does Mike have over Labron? Please, let's talk genius...
@@chuckd1586 You typed a lot and nothing at the same time.
Just so we’re clear Zeke doesn’t have beef with MJ….MJ is the bitter one. You don’t beef with someone you beat 3 out of 4 times in the playoffs 🤷🏾♂️
Facts
Olympics
You do if he swept that ass on the last playoff meeting. And demolishes you in regular season games after that.
@@nharvey0076 nah. One sweep after losing 3 consecutive yrs?! 🤣🤣🤣. And then beating us after we’ve been to 5 STRAIGHT Conference Finals and are older and worn out? Yeah ok……🤦🏽♂️
I always thought of MJ to be a bitter person but yo his shoes hard ngl
mj was saying to young melo you need reb and ass to be good player u can find that in youtube
Giant oversight, my dude. Tough look.
He's the GOAT !
F nah
Lowkey Bron could’ve won mvp more than he did but they kind snubbed him a couple years
Facts.. everyone know he should have more. It's just an award based on team success that year tbh.
He has 4, not 1, if that’s what you’re thinking. If not, yes he could’ve maybe even had 5.
@@jaydenvert9168 He should have 7. Believe me or not, but i can give you the seasons if you need to have it. Also should have an DPOY, well they gave it Marc Gasol who dont even made the first team all defense. Thats, what happens, if the media who just covered Jordan are voting, they protected his legacy.
LeBron James doesn't have to catch Jordan in the number of MVP awards. MJ was a scorer that's it, end of the conversation. Lebron scores, assists, rebounds and defends.
What’s crazy is that most people who even say Jordan is better would most likely rather play with LeBron knowing their leadership styles and such.
Nothing too crazy about that.
He is a basketball God💯.
only if you spell it backwards
LeBron James is the BEST Scottie Pippen EVER!!!
People will always have their favorites regardless of stats or ability, so there will always be a goat debate.
Did I miss which players called him a GOD? 🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
Lol exactly
Can you imagine if he played with a teammate like Pippen, Grant , Rodman, Harper and the list goes on for the majority of his career and also played with veteran teammates who checked their egos at the door instead of what he had to deal with during his first 3 or 4 years in the league there’s no telling how many championships he would have let alone the astronomical number of appearances
Um, did you watch Jordan play his entire career. I did! Jordan was the definition of
"UNSTOPPABLE".
Could you imagine MJ playing with Chris Bosh,D-Wade, Kyrie, Kevin love, Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Russell Westbrook and only has 4 rings in 20 years! Only 4 rings in 20 .yrs with all that help.wow talk about under achieving. S m h!
@@denniscox1014 Yes I imagine it would go like the first seven or eight years of his career until he got Phil Jackson who convinced him to value his teammates and get them involved in a team concept what good is leading the league in scoring every year when you’re getting bounced in the first round. So now can you imagine King James playing for a hall of fame coach and having a competent general manager who would pick the right players he had to be the best player on the team and be the GM as well.
@@BassGodsdoes unstoppable mean getting swept in the 1st round by Boston and not even having a +500 record for 3 or 4 years and losing over and over in the early rounds?
@@denniscox1014 Grant Pippen Kerr Paxton Kukoc Armstrong Harper Rodman etc etc. Howard was past his prime when he play with bron. Russ was more of a negative with all the turnovers and not scoring much. And Mello was only there because him and Bron are close friends. He should have been retired and was basically a bench player. MJ had way better teammates and needed them to get over 500 and win in the playoffs. He also had Phil jackson Doug Collins and Dean smith at UNC for 3 years. Lebron had to carry rookie coaches and garbage cans to the finals every year until he left for miami.
Bron is the GOAT the media it's just scared to admit because they fear mj repercussions
Only idiots believe lebron is the goat.. Most NBA legends and sports analysts consider mj as goat, 73% of todays NBA players voted mj as goat, NBA itself declared mj as the goat.. LeBron fans dumb opinion can't change that fact
@@toxicjutz1168 no one asked lol
@@Bspradling033 this your 1st time on the internet kid? 🤣
@@toxicjutz1168 `He only needed 1 time to get it right
Lebron throws the ball between Aaron Gordons legs at 4:34. Like when you see it.
They asked Bronny who his dad was he said Steph Curry. 😆
I think Jordan was one of greatest but I don’t think he ever had to face a team like the GSW or a dynasty like the spurs alone with no help. Yes Jordan was great but his support system was undeniably one of the greatest helps in NBA history. 3 HOFs on a team should be nothing short of a few rings. Even that first 3 peat Jordan had great help on the wings and bigs who knew their role. Hate to say that Lebron only had a real team in Miami and just proved how great he was with winning with a team the cavaliers that year.
Jordan had the second most stacked team EVER behind him, right behind GS.
Not just GS and SA but that Dallas team was stacked and so was the Boston teams with 4 HOFers Rondo Pierce Garnett and Allen. Plus the rest or that was crazy as well. How lebron owned Toronto for those years bouncing them over and over was crazy, you hear about that alot.
lebron has 4 mvps wtf are you talking about hahah
Isaiah crazy 😂😆😆😂
You're really quoting the comment in text, reading it out loud, then playing the actual quote. That's about as redundant and inefficient as make a video can be.
Everyone knows that Lebron is the best basketball player to ever play no other player has a more complete game the only reason it’s a debate is because Jordan played during a time where not every game was recorded and put under a microscope, also Jordan’s Prime started during a time where the league was fairly weak and him and the bulls could dominate
LeBron is the worst NBA player ever. Ur delusional lol
@@gitgud1553 ur delusional for that retarted take you just said
Isiah beat MJ, Bird, and Magic… trust me it’s not the beef
What is up with this editing putting a quote and then the clip of the quote right after 😂
Draymun😂
How do guys get to do these post without knowing anything.
1 mvp?
lies nobody feared lebron ever! i watched his whole career, all of lebron's rivals have only wanted to beat him!
Your right nobody feared him
He put teams in fear and the league and klay Thompson especially
So Curry and the boys flying over to KD, crying for help, because they cant beat Lebron is no fear?
2:47 100% true !
Ur reading what the player said then playing clip of the player saying it…. Gd video but u can do with out reading their quote . Just my thought
Jordan is the G.O.A.T.
Pippen called Lebron the GOAT several times, and called him the best player ever even more....first in 2011 during the Bulls series, when he did not win a single title yet....and you know what? he was right in 2011....he was the best player that we have ever seen until that point, but not even close to be the greatest just yet....he needed individual and team accomplishments to reach that...in my mind, Lebron became the GOAT after the 2018 playoff run where we have seen the best player ever in any era...hard to debate that...GOAT debate is always about what you prefer more...for me, the best player argument is clearly Lebron and Jordan 2nd, the greatest/most iconic player is Jordan 1st, Lebron 2nd, but in my mind, you gotta give the edge to the best player ever...
This narrator is a fan of mj. Lol
Piper had a book to promote sour from the last dance . Isaiah is still sour for not making the dream team.