Inside the hateful and lonely world of incel men | Uncovering Incels (Part 1) | Short Documentary

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  • Watch the next episode of Uncovering Incels here: • The darker side of the...
    Content warning: Contains violent and distressing content, including references to sexual violence and racist slurs.
    The incel community is a world that’s usually closed off to the outside - especially to women. Incels, short for 'involuntary celibates', are mostly lonely young men who can’t find a sexual or romantic partner - and resent women for it.
    In this two-part investigation, two female producers meet with current and former incels from around Australia to learn what it means to be an incel.
    Chapters:
    00:00 - 01:01 Intro
    01:30 - 02:14 What is an incel? Meet “Tom”
    02:15 - 03:54 What do incels talk about? Inside an incel chatroom
    04:21 - 05:04 Having lunch with five incels. Do incels date?
    05:03 - 05:54 What do incels believe?
    05:55 - 07:20 Where is the incel movement headed?
    07:21 - 08:26 Do all incels hate women? What do some incels do to try to attract women?
    08:27 - 09:39 Are all incels virgins?
    09:40 - 10:22 Incels and relationships?
    10:23 - 10:44 Sneak peek of Part 2
    Reporter/Producer: Michelle Elias
    Producer: Jennifer Luu
    Shooters: Daniel Gallagher, James Gilligan, Gavin Blyth
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    Sound: Andrew Timlin
    Graphics: Caroline Huang
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  • @SBSTheFeed
    @SBSTheFeed  Před 10 měsíci +78

    Watch the next episode where we look at the darker side of the incel world here: czcams.com/video/Ws-f5BxfGok/video.html

    • @Basedlocation
      @Basedlocation Před 10 měsíci +13

      /3 men under 30 are virgins in a society where being a male virgin is unacceptable and the pressure is on, what did u think what would happen ??

  • @painunending4610
    @painunending4610 Před 10 měsíci +4673

    Imagine being an incel AND living in Australia... Truly a hellish existence

    • @dankmemes385
      @dankmemes385 Před 10 měsíci +263

      Melbourne here I’m in that hell been in it for 41 years. Incel before the incels, hot tip your over it by 35. I don’t hate women either jhst don’t get em 😂

    • @hangukhiphop
      @hangukhiphop Před 10 měsíci +182

      hey at least you have legal brothels over there lol here in the US it's basically outlawed

    • @bayek9869
      @bayek9869 Před 10 měsíci +298

      It’s over for Australiancels

    • @tessy28
      @tessy28 Před 10 měsíci +182

      What's special about Australia specifically?

    • @Jaapst
      @Jaapst Před 10 měsíci +147

      haha why is australia so bad?

  • @racqueldillon3560
    @racqueldillon3560 Před 6 měsíci +2447

    Wanting sex is a normal.human feeling. But basing your entire identity and level of happiness based on having or not having it is alarming.

    • @eileengerding942
      @eileengerding942 Před 6 měsíci +249

      That's what I never understand. How is sex so important in your life?? Get a hobby or something lol

    • @disagiato9391
      @disagiato9391 Před 6 měsíci +314

      Bro It Is not about sex. Just be want/loved by someone

    • @ghevisartor6005
      @ghevisartor6005 Před 6 měsíci +329

      no you literally do not understand. It's just not getting sex or a relationship now, it's not even having the hope to get in in the future at any point.
      Of course you talk like this because you never found your self in such scenario.

    • @liljay300000
      @liljay300000 Před 6 měsíci +101

      if you actually get into it. It's not about the sex in reality. Even with one of the incels that they showed. He was capable of having sex but he found that not to be enough.

    • @wtfdtreats
      @wtfdtreats Před 6 měsíci +6

      easy to say as a female who never has to prove their worth to society.
      Fact of the matter is it's not that alarming because sex and reproduction is a cornerstone of -human- _animal_ existence. This is an existential crisis society is facing, and if it keeps being intellectually dishonest, then it's going to collapse.
      Just enjoy the decline I guess.

  • @danpartridge8584
    @danpartridge8584 Před 9 měsíci +2849

    This is just depressing. I'm 33 and haven't dated/been romantically involved with anyone since college. I've spent my time building up my career and focusing inward. I own my own home/vehicle, have two dogs I adore, money in the bank, and I enjoy my solitude immensely. I wish these younger dudes could become self-reliant and enjoy themselves more in place of such self-hated. I am my own biggest fan and advocate -- I wholeheartedly believe that has been the key to my success and my happiness.

    • @sajtospog9888
      @sajtospog9888 Před 9 měsíci

      "Women may not have ever been attracted to me but at least I am not an incel"
      Yes, you are. If a woman was never attracted to you, you are an incel

    • @Jay-tj7sn
      @Jay-tj7sn Před 9 měsíci +274

      i’m so proud of you. Seriously. Thank you.

    • @aa-up4sf
      @aa-up4sf Před 9 měsíci +222

      You're my man. I joined the army to find my worth. But your way works too. Keep on trucking brother 💪

  • @darkking9836
    @darkking9836 Před 10 měsíci +1663

    There are 2 types of incels-
    1. Entitled pricks who are angry and hateful towards women for not sleeping with them. These are the ones with violent tendencies.
    2. Socially awkward/ lonely men, often conventionally unattractive looking who have lost hope and feel like they should give up.
    About 8/10 would fall into that second group, but unfortunately the first group is what many people think all incels are like.

    • @MakinItHappenn
      @MakinItHappenn Před 10 měsíci +2

      Do you really think that the Entitled group are not conventionally unattractive too? HA HA HA. Of course. That doesn't sound as poetic, does it?

  • @koshka02
    @koshka02 Před 10 měsíci +2242

    people may not want to admit it, but online dating apps have actually been detrimental to Men's mental health
    I really think dating apps have been horrible for society
    If you found your spouse/significant other through a dating app, then I am happy for you, but the vast majority of people are miserable having to use it

    • @theironson1043
      @theironson1043 Před 10 měsíci +341

      online dating apps should be banned.

  • @Sofia-gq9pt
    @Sofia-gq9pt Před 8 dny +29

    Why do they hate ALL women when there are so many women who are in the same situation as them in life and struggle with the same issues?

  • @Simone-xe9cw
    @Simone-xe9cw Před 9 měsíci +1276

    I've lived dating pre and post the "dating app era", and I can say without a doubt that dating today feels more like a job interview than a moment of knowledge.

  • @adishadzo9896
    @adishadzo9896 Před 11 měsíci +1155

    Raymond literally said "if I don't find a girlfriend until 35, I will find a job". 😂
    That's not how it works.

  • @sally180
    @sally180 Před 8 měsíci +935

    I am a woman that feels that dating apps and social media are largely responsible for the loneliness and lack of connection in society today. I hope people start waking up, turning off the screen and actually embracing the real world again

  • @whita-db9zw
    @whita-db9zw Před 10 dny +11

    Why don't these incels just date each other? Problem solved!

  • @hem2821
    @hem2821 Před 6 měsíci +1449

    What I find a shame is that they define their lives by their inability to be with another person. Relying on another in order to specify significance as a person is damaging and scary

    • @Commander-qw2ld
      @Commander-qw2ld Před 6 měsíci +2

      How is it ? What is our purpose as humans ? It is to reproduce with the opposite sex . That’s our main goal . And when your not fulfilling your goal …when your rejected by society ….that’s how people like these incels come about

    • @ghevisartor6005
      @ghevisartor6005 Před 6 měsíci +103

      lol most people date and are fine, they even get fulfilled by relationships. What are you even talking about? 😂

    • @kalistothenes
      @kalistothenes Před 6 měsíci

      That's what society wants from men

    • @user-qu6xp3jq4c
      @user-qu6xp3jq4c Před 6 měsíci +98

      No one should define themselves by a relationship or marriage! Goodness me!

    • @nateblance2936
      @nateblance2936 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It seems it's driven by their family. Their parents don't understand this generation and online dating. They don't understand how much of a job interview it has become. The parents label them as losers, then the incels respond by deviation from a society that rejected them.

  • @jayhughes3843
    @jayhughes3843 Před 4 měsíci +119

    They should've had men interview the incels...

  • @imskar3441
    @imskar3441 Před 10 měsíci +699

    Don’t think it’s hard to talk to a woman, but coming off weird or awkward makes any interaction harder if your already “ugly.” Most women can sense that there’s something off.

    • @kaiju9149
      @kaiju9149 Před 10 měsíci +6

      If you're ugly don't bother. You don't have a chance anyways.

  • @ceooflonelinessinc.267
    @ceooflonelinessinc.267 Před 10 měsíci +882

    I am Incel too. At least by definition.
    In 33 years of my life I never experienced any kind of romantic contact. I never had a hug, a date or a kiss and obviously no realationship. Getting chronically rejected and therefore living years or decades without any kind of romantic contact is something I wish not my worst enemies. It makes you mentally sick. It has totally brokek me. I am suffering from clinical depressionen, panic attacks and other mental issues due to that.

    • @mickeydeee
      @mickeydeee Před 10 měsíci +252

      I'm really sorry you've had to go through this. Every human is deserving of love and you are no exception.

    • @ilyrain3540
      @ilyrain3540 Před 10 měsíci +1

      We got this brocel. There's no ideology behind incels that's just the mainstream propaganda.

    • @stoicblade1079
      @stoicblade1079 Před 10 měsíci +198

      Here's the thing...you've got have thick skin. I remember reading a phrase years ago that has always helped me:
      "One woman, One vote"
      ...meaning, if 1 girl or 20 girls reject me...that is strictly their opinion. They do not define me or the opinions of the other billions of girls out there. Plus, I talk to EVERYBODY.
      You focus on yourself, stop caring so much what others think about you, and flirt with EVERYBODY. It's a numbers game.

    • @ellaverte2333
      @ellaverte2333 Před 10 měsíci +119

      I have cptsd from men with all the same symptoms, mine were from two freak grapists and stalkers, but go to therapy,there is cbt and such that will help, I trust men again and am married to an amazing guy. You blaming all women for your problems would be like me saying every single male is a grapist, alot are but alot arnt .

    • @JamFlava1
      @JamFlava1 Před 10 měsíci +112

      You need to socialize with people, going out and talk to woman more and boost your conversation skills and trust me you will get more confidence. Staying at home won’t get you a girlfriend my friend. Go to the club, cafeteria and talk to woman. It doesn’t matter if you get rejected or not, just talk and talk it will boost your confidence, eventually
      you will get a girlfriend.

  • @Booth81
    @Booth81 Před 8 měsíci +746

    I was an incel before the term even existed.
    I was mercilessly bullied from elementary until High School, and i made what I thought were a circle of friends in college. It turned out that one of the girls in said circle thought I was stalking her, and they were making fun of me behind my back. I became a recluse, and lost trust in people outside of my family for a long time.
    I’m 43 years old, autistic (not diagnosed until I was 28), and a recovering alcoholic who used to drink alone. However, I’ve not only sobered up, but I finally got out of retail a while back, and found a much better paying job. One where I’ve made some real friends among my coworkers. I’ve still never been in a relationship, but I don’t care about that anymore. If it happens, great. If not, it’s not a problem.
    In my 20s, though, I was enraged over it. I wasted so much time arguing with people on the internet, to the point where it got me banned from my favorite forum at the time. I never said any of the garbage I’ve seen in this video, but I was so blinded by my anger, that i didn’t realize how I was coming off. No one wants to talk to someone who’s that big of an asshole.
    I don’t condone any of the vile, sexist, or racist BS that I’ve seen on these Incel forums. Those posts make me even more angry than the kids who bullied me. Those idiots overshadow the rest of us, who are simply reaching out for understanding and compassion, in a world they feel has left them behind.
    I just hope these young men find satisfaction in life a little sooner than I did.

  • @Basedlocation
    @Basedlocation Před 10 měsíci +109

    1/3 men under 30 are virgins in a society where being a male virgin is unacceptable and the pressure is on, what did u think what would happen ??

    • @shamzo1798
      @shamzo1798 Před 9 měsíci +50

      Women are sIut shamed while men a virgin shamed.
      It's just what it is

  • @aosleosbus6737
    @aosleosbus6737 Před 6 měsíci +352

    I really hope the best for Raymond, he seems like a genuinely nice person, it’s easier said then done but I don’t think a relationship is completely impossible for him, he doesn’t have the disgusting and aggressive mindset of violence that will also turn women away. I just think maybe if he seeks a therapist or a life coach to help his social anxiety and skills to be able to comfortably speak to women more would help. Like I don’t see him as unattractive, like he’s your average guy as most people are. I feel with media you see all these beautiful people so much more that it kinda destroys your perspective of the world that the average person doesn’t have the crystal clear skin etc. and it’s harder to see the human in them through the screen because a lot of it so much more fake.

  • @mephistopheles9644
    @mephistopheles9644 Před 9 měsíci +175

    most people in the comments who complain about this wouldn't care if you disappeared forever. never take advice from people who don't care about you.

  • @mylesbailey6506
    @mylesbailey6506 Před 10 měsíci +362

    Male 29 years old. I have been rejected, flaked on and ghosted by every woman I have ever liked my entire life.

    • @iLilith11
      @iLilith11 Před 10 měsíci +69

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @muffinsinthechair4501
      @muffinsinthechair4501 Před 10 měsíci +91

      Did u asked them why?

    • @manosijroy8282
      @manosijroy8282 Před 10 měsíci +36

      I am in the same boat as you but I am a 22 year old guy who never had a girlfriend before and its definitely bothering me. I got rejected by 4 girls recently. I asked out my childhood friend 2 months ago and she is 21 now turning 22 soon but she isn't that active on Instagram so she took a month to reply to it but she agreed to meet up and again didn't reply for over a month about when we can meet up. I have been chatting with another girl on Instagram since 28th May 2023. She is 19 now and she used to be in the same school as me but we didn't know each other in school days and now we are in different colleges but her college is very near to my home. We chat daily and she shares everything to me and I do the same too and we even send each other virtual hugs but there is still no flirting yet. It looks like she still sees me as a friend. I wanna ask her out but I am nervous especially after getting rejected 4 times recently. Is 1 month long enough to know whether she is interested in me or not?

    • @NoProblemoBob
      @NoProblemoBob Před 10 měsíci +62

      That made me curious. Why didn't you settle with a girl that people usually describe as PickMe? All my life, there's always that one girl who would avoid being friends with women and wants to please men.

  • @norbertbraun2917
    @norbertbraun2917 Před 11 měsíci +418

    I am in the same situation.
    In 33 years of my life I never experienced any kind of romantic contact. I never had a hug, a date or a kiss and obviously no realationship. Though I tired everything I can like asking women out, approaching them or using dating apps. Like Raymond I also tried to improve in the best way i can. I do sports, I have interests like playing Ukulel and over the years I went out on some adventures to get out of the comfort zone. But nothing worked. Not one single women ever considered me for nothing less than a date - and obviously anything beyond that.
    It totally destroyed me mentally. I dont know what to do anymore.

  • @Mau365PP
    @Mau365PP Před 10 měsíci +84

    These are lonely men and they treat them like terrorists 😂

    • @lovejunkie490
      @lovejunkie490 Před 10 měsíci +3

      When you kill someone, or support someone that kill someone, you ARE a terrorist

  • @johnmilius3031
    @johnmilius3031 Před 11 měsíci +278

    Incel is a state of being, literally a portmanteau of the words "Involuntarily" and "Celibate". It's not a philosophy in itself, such as the blue-, red- or blackpill.

    • @jaylucas8352
      @jaylucas8352 Před 11 měsíci +71

      It starts with a condition, leads to an identity , and culminates in a philosophy oftentimes.

  • @Irakli008
    @Irakli008 Před 10 měsíci +906

    Props to the researchers. You approached this with a lot of curiosity and empathy. It would have been so easy to impulsively react to and argue about some of the things they said, but it’s great that you gave them the space to express themselves and their worldview. It’s so sad to see young men like this.

    • @tessy28
      @tessy28 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I don't feel sympathy for them at all. Act stupid and ridiculous and hateful towards women and then get surprised when women sense your awfulness and run for the hills. I wouldn't touch people like this with a barge pole. Their hatred is an illness. Very very sick individuals

    • @dawd21
      @dawd21 Před 10 měsíci

      i wish all were like this so we could throw this perverted idea of "freedom" and female led societies

    • @coimbralaw
      @coimbralaw Před 10 měsíci +27

      Awww so saaaad

    • @banks3388
      @banks3388 Před 10 měsíci

      This dude isn't an incel, the mask gives it away i.e. the mask is associated with fringe left-wing elements and incels are almost exclusively crypto-fascists who click with forum culture.

    • @OccidentalAryan
      @OccidentalAryan Před 10 měsíci +91

      @@tessy28 The vast majority are not hateful. Why are you painting 100s of millions of men with the same brush?

  • @xelaklement3367
    @xelaklement3367 Před 9 měsíci +461

    The problem is that these boys/men could probably get a girl but the constant rejection has made them insecure and most of all bitter. A man who is bitter is an absolute turn off and we can sense it from miles away. I am not putting the fault on anyone except the superficial society we live in, it is a vicious circle really.

  • @krishyket
    @krishyket Před 10 měsíci +602

    Usually, these guys have gone through something extremely traumatic or negative during school which have destroyed their worldview. I feel sorry for them. The current dating game and scene doesnt help either.

  • @decline01
    @decline01 Před 11 měsíci +95

    Oh wow it's me...

  • @MarcusHalberstramVP
    @MarcusHalberstramVP Před 8 měsíci +297

    I am 27 and I am a virgin because I guess I am pretty ugly - every girl I ever asked out immediately rejected me on the basis of my appearance and height (171cm). At this point, I have forced myself to no longer care about attractive girls - when I pass by one, I just pretend they don’t exist. Sometimes, I still get mad when I hear about the wild successes of some of my attractive friends - they date a different girl each week. There is a stark contrast in our lives.
    On the positive side, I have secured a stellar investment banking job in which I already make $500k net per annum. So, it’s not all doom & gloom:)

  • @hildis33
    @hildis33 Před 6 měsíci +486

    i know a lot of women who havent had romantic / sexual relationships with men, and still they blame themselves not men for their situation, it's crazy to think women are the root cause of your problems, especially at such a young age, while being sad and depressed for not being a relationship is not new for any gender.
    the violent thoughts they have is genuinely scary

    • @futurereflections4097
      @futurereflections4097 Před 6 měsíci +4

      There is no such thing as a female incel

    • @assia4595
      @assia4595 Před 6 měsíci +17

      soo true

    • @sana.4.a
      @sana.4.a Před 6 měsíci +38

      women tend to blame themselves more than others for their celibacy

    • @luigisantoriello3289
      @luigisantoriello3289 Před 6 měsíci +115

      What you said is true,let me just say one thing:
      Lonely men are genuinely lonely as no woman wants them/finds them interesting.
      Lonely women are women who choose to be alone because all the men that like them are seen as not interesting/attracting enough.

    • @GG-mx9fj
      @GG-mx9fj Před 6 měsíci +26

      Men don’t publicly reject women as women rarely make the advance.
      These boys would likely have been benefited several times by women for being awkward then they would harbour unhealthy emotions or want for revenge. An unhealthy or odd mother to son relationship can also cause repressed anger
      Therapy would help a lot but it’s rarely accesible to people who need it the most

  • @natefnbr8494
    @natefnbr8494 Před 10 měsíci +348

    Hate to say it but i almost cant even be mad at an incel, alot of how the world views you is how you look and how people perceive you, and if someones born with physically unnatractive genes i dont know how it could be possible to be confident around woman. Because woman 100% treat you differently as a man depending on how you look. Seen it 1000 times. Its a messed up reality. None of the woman hating is right, but the looks theory is plainly obvious.

    • @iLilith11
      @iLilith11 Před 10 měsíci +70

      I agree. I never dated an ugly guy. It's just *not* natural

    • @shortersview
      @shortersview Před 10 měsíci

      Hmmm I wonder why more women aren’t incels? Women have been getting judge on their looks since the dawn of time. Why aren’t more women incels. We get rejected abused, raped, objectified, belittled and ignored. And that’s not just the girls y’all deem unattractive. Women should be the one in the chat rooms but yet white fragil men want to kill women for not wanting to be with them bc they think it’s ok to kill a woman for not being with him.

    • @SusanChristmas
      @SusanChristmas Před 10 měsíci +77

      As a woman may I say that women can grow to love a man they do not find to be the most attractive. Confidence, personal success and the respect from others around them can change how a man is viewed. Also as a women ages their priorities change they start to look for a provider and a protector someone trustworthy and honest who makes them feel special.Looks fade but these other assets can last a lifetime.

  • @midnull6009
    @midnull6009 Před 10 měsíci +112

    This is what desperate loneliness looks like...

  • @guillermoelnino
    @guillermoelnino Před 10 měsíci +82

    Attacking the most defenseless and isolated people in society. Because that's what good guys do.

  • @koshka02
    @koshka02 Před 10 měsíci +177

    1. unemployed
    2. mental health issue
    3 . insecure about their looks
    yes, I have 2 out of 3 of these problems, and I would 100% say that is the reason why. It stems from 1 or 2 of those 3 things.

    • @Stinkmeaner420
      @Stinkmeaner420 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Definitely the first 2 tbh

    • @whajwjwbqksisjdbeskoshewkdy
      @whajwjwbqksisjdbeskoshewkdy Před 10 měsíci +59

      all of those 3 it stem from genetics/looks

    • @user-sf5iq2fl1l
      @user-sf5iq2fl1l Před 10 měsíci +28

      Well. I own house car, employed and go to gym. Am a bit insecure about my looks, but hey, nobody is perfect. Still get no gf.

    • @bro918
      @bro918 Před 9 měsíci +77

      Looks/height is 90%. Chad doesnt need a job. Chad can be an anxious, manipulative trainwreck but it doesnt matter.

  • @Jotinko
    @Jotinko Před 8 měsíci +135

    I was so close to becoming an incel. I was never a misogynist as my hatred was aimed at myself. I too am autistic (mild case) but for 20 years (since 7th/8th grade as I was bullied by ALOT of most attractive girls) and until I was 33 I subconsciously generalized all women into liking the same type of guy ie: the suave super confident non autistic who had the "special label" as I was in those classes half the time and never tried to date a girl as I felt too flawed and undeserving until I found out that love builds up over time as I thought women chose on the spot after talking for a half hour to be a couple or not and being autistic is not the dealbreaker of all dealbreaker I thought it was. It's more about loving another person for who they are and that no one is perfect. I'm now 36 still single/virgin but I'm trying to be myself around women (even with my female friends) but still find myself masking my autism like I have been doing those 20 years.

  • @huggybear539
    @huggybear539 Před 8 měsíci +165

    I guess I'm an INCEL. I faced a lot of abuse as a child and caused me to become extremely introverted. Add that to a 5' 7" frame and you have a recipe for a lonely life. It bothered me a lot in my teens and twenties, but realized I need to embrace my solitude instead of hating the world or I, myself, would go crazy.
    It's a "dog eat dog world" and we are witnessing the survival of the fittest.

  • @RICOMOVIES
    @RICOMOVIES Před 9 měsíci +128

    So being lonely, is now a crime. Great,thanx for that.

    • @clol6049
      @clol6049 Před 9 měsíci +64

      thanks for ignoring the fact they actively shame women

  • @5cripted785
    @5cripted785 Před 11 měsíci +114

    black pill is real

    • @nsbd90now
      @nsbd90now Před 11 měsíci +18

      No it isn't. It is from a science-fiction movie. It's a safe bet anyone who goes on about "red pills" and so on isn't getting good grades in school.

  • @rickc-137___
    @rickc-137___ Před 9 měsíci +53

    Dating is shallow
    When you are judged on a face
    Dont be suprised when another one takes your place

  • @alanmorris4896
    @alanmorris4896 Před 7 měsíci +40

    I thought i was an incel but after this video i realized i'm mostly a misanthrope. I love to be alone

  • @kellywilliamson2187
    @kellywilliamson2187 Před 8 měsíci +224

    As a young man, the sexual compulsion is incredibly powerful and it seems like everyone is having sex . . . except you - but, of course, it's an illusion and in large part due to relentless marketing centered around sexual attraction.

  • @SirSmokeAlot8866
    @SirSmokeAlot8866 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Imagine not talking to a girl outside your family for 3 years and then you gotta talk to a girl on camera 😳

  • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
    @AlbertBalbastreMorte Před 5 měsíci +50

    the title alone is incredibly biased. Let people draw their own conclusions.

  • @cheyenneliddicote5610
    @cheyenneliddicote5610 Před 6 měsíci +547

    Being referred to as “female” is so unsettling like we aren’t human

    • @WCHvids
      @WCHvids Před 6 měsíci +243

      Wow what a female thing to say

    • @mirandaw.4944
      @mirandaw.4944 Před 6 měsíci +154

      i know right, nobody ever calls them males

    • @RareJewel777
      @RareJewel777 Před 6 měsíci +8

      There is a difference between women and females, but I get your point

    • @rano12321
      @rano12321 Před 6 měsíci +83

      humans can't be female?

  • @kiiwiipotatojenn
    @kiiwiipotatojenn Před 5 měsíci +32

    Raymond seems like a good genuine dude. He had potential. I wish him the best.

  • @orlokknoxxcast
    @orlokknoxxcast Před 10 měsíci +337

    Hard reality - dating and relationships are based on your looks, including height. Personality only matters when you already have the door opened from having decent looks. I'm 35 and no amount of self improvement I've done has made a difference. My looks and height are what stop me from attracting women.

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 Před 8 měsíci +85

    As a person who had lot of trouble when I was younger long before incel's and the internet existed for me my problems started at a young age in grade school 6 or 7th grade. I had dandruff girls would call me disgusting, I was bullied by everyone even teachers. What they got me to believe I was all those things about myself. That is where I I went wrong. I learned to stay away from bullies and mean girls who hanged around with those kids. That sort of stuck with me all the way through high school. Kids that have low self-esteems attract bullies because they are easy targets. Somehow, I actually had a few GFs in my late teens years it was short lived. Looking back on it now I remember girls who did like me I had judged myself to the point where I felt like I wasn't worth much why would anyone like me. I can remember sitting alone and thinking what my future would be like. I remember this girl leaving her phone number in my yearbook she went out of her way to sign it I didn't think anything about it. There is lot of other things that happened I'm married now been for long time in my 50's now. It wasn't girls who were the problem it was me I was the one who was broken. If you're having trouble in life with meeting girls try to figure out how to improve your own life even if you have to get therapy, do it don't waste your younger years on sitting around feeling sorry for yourself.

  • @imconfusion4976
    @imconfusion4976 Před 10 měsíci +686

    I’m certainly NOT an incel in any form! but it’s hard not to sympathise with these people some what, as a guy myself, dating is stupidly hard nowadays for men, and its hard not to feel down sometimes from the lack of attention, so I feel sorry for them on that matter.

    • @jebril
      @jebril Před 10 měsíci

      Yea I've only been with one girl my wife and she's fat AF.
      Apparently I'm good looking, but objectively I have an 8 in dick, 6 ft tall pretty much (5'11) make six figures own multiple homes and cars outright.
      I've been with my wife for like 12 yrs tho but like I just see how it is trying to get a threesome going, like impossible wtf man.

    • @zumazuma568
      @zumazuma568 Před 9 měsíci +224

      You're saying it like it's easy for women...

    • @BigTylt
      @BigTylt Před 9 měsíci +197

      It's one thing to feel demoralized and exhausted, and it's something entirely different to cheer on violence against women out of a desire for comeuppance.

    • @stephanieodiase
      @stephanieodiase Před 9 měsíci +80

      Boo hooo 😂😂😂😂

    • @zain7alyani7906
      @zain7alyani7906 Před 9 měsíci +109

      If these are what male incels are.. What are females with misandrist believes and standards? Is it really viewed the same way when males are sexualized by women? Why are those females called feminist and are seen as fighting for there right and worth meanwhile these men are called incels and seen as failures when it’s actually society that has failed them and made them felt like the only way they have a value in life is by interacting with females? Is this really the dark side of themselves or reality of the dark side society offers to men?

  • @munkqiking7207
    @munkqiking7207 Před 10 měsíci +45

    Amazing how quickly men forget how brutal dating is for men as soon as they get into a relationship.
    Every single time.
    You start acting like women as a gender have no faults. Its always mens fault! Men youre just insecure! Men you need to work onyour personality! Men youre not doing enough!
    Tell me since you (and everyone else here) are such experts on male-female social dynamics, what flaws and issues do women need to work on? Since you have so much to say about men.
    Oh wait, let me guess, women are already perfect as they are.
    Thats the sentiment young men are met with. Its no wonder they feel like they cant win, you halfwits keep stacking the chips against them in EVERY interaction or circumstance.

  • @ehsanazerbaijanli1738
    @ehsanazerbaijanli1738 Před 6 měsíci +15

    Im 27 virgin to this day,have good family,okay job and university degree,the people around me always wondered why im single,i wondering myself, maybe i ask few girls or im not wealthy.i know be alone man is hard but we must improve ourselves and not hateful to girls.they have right to choose .Finding girlfriend is part of life not the life itself. I try live happy and try to find girlfriend but if i didn't i keep trying to be successful even im live in iran (east Azerbaijan province if you wonder why i call myself Azerbaijani)and there is alot of problem like very high inflation. So to friends who like me an incel ,virgin or celibate.try see good things in your life ,try to find girlfriend but focus on other part of life. Your work is important and after that your fitness.if you are depression like me , still you must fight in this harsh life.I hope all of us can have happy and good life.

  • @c.b.295
    @c.b.295 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Honestly we all recognise there is a massive social problem with men and women today, but some of the posts that these guys make are disgusting. Its counterproductive and dangerous. And calling women horrible names and posting hateful disturbing messages and images definitely wont help your cause.

  • @olly078
    @olly078 Před 11 měsíci +29

    Lmaooo my man Decline is in the documentary 😂😂😂😂

    • @j.d.s.8132
      @j.d.s.8132 Před 11 měsíci +15

      Noticed it too 😂😂😂. When you know Decline, its over.

  • @TimSlee1
    @TimSlee1 Před 4 měsíci +17

    I don't hate women, i'm just confused, lonely and a little envious of people who have it all figured out.

    • @OccidentalAryan
      @OccidentalAryan Před 4 měsíci +31

      There's nothing to figure out. It's all looks.

    • @LORWBITCH
      @LORWBITCH Před 3 měsíci +4

      I hate

    • @taquito7526
      @taquito7526 Před 3 měsíci +14

      Have it all figured out is short for have all the looks

    • @biteofdog
      @biteofdog Před 3 měsíci +9

      The thing to realize is that nobody has it all figured out, and we all have our different struggles. Some folks are great at hiding their problems until you talk to them, their lives may seem perfect, but they could still feel unhappy or unfulfilled.

  • @martynilsson4731
    @martynilsson4731 Před 5 měsíci +43

    The Internet is slowly killing our society.

  • @sweattvchannel9156
    @sweattvchannel9156 Před 10 měsíci +39

    Been a incel for 2 years now and didn’t even know it

    • @Buddyboyo7
      @Buddyboyo7 Před 10 měsíci +57

      Yep so many guys are incels in denial or just lack the self awareness.

    • @nocturnaljoe9543
      @nocturnaljoe9543 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@Buddyboyo7 I bet 200 bucks over 50% of the resentfull people in the comments here, beating down on incels are IID themselves. The rest if mostly women who think they would not be incels, if they had been born male. I dare them: Just do the test. Make a profile with a picture of you. Use an app to turn your digital persona into a male and try to have any success. Best of luck buddy boyerinas.

    • @Jessik..
      @Jessik.. Před 10 měsíci +4

      The literal term of being involuntary celibate isn’t that bad but if you take it out on an entire group of people that’s when it turns bad

    • @beganitdidnt6535
      @beganitdidnt6535 Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@Buddyboyo7 yep the ones that make fun of them they really need a blackpill moment
      mine was just being the ugly friend of the group which was a bunch of blackpill moments
      but i assume these people dont have friends and cope with money or something idk
      they are super delusional and narrow minded
      its weird asf

    • @icomefromoogaboogaland
      @icomefromoogaboogaland Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@nocturnaljoe9543brootal. OvER for buddy boyerinas 😢

  • @SynthhInHD
    @SynthhInHD Před 9 měsíci +46

    I'm an incel by definition, not really by views. It's been almost 6 years since I had any romantic contact with a woman, and it's not for lack of trying. I'm tall, I've got many interests, I have a good job, and I'm educated, but still I struggle. Dating apps don't work for me and I've got so much trauma from growing up as an outcast that I probably won't ever feel comfortable enough to put myself out there. It doesn't help seeing so many women talking about their impossible standards for men.

    • @AbuBased731
      @AbuBased731 Před 9 měsíci +13

      >[indenialÇel]

    • @liilykh4n
      @liilykh4n Před 9 měsíci +35

      Womens standards are literally just a funny gentleman that treats them with respect, ive seen maybe a small amount of guys however that don’t hyperfixate on a woman’s physical appearance

  • @rangapal7949
    @rangapal7949 Před 10 měsíci +253

    I love how they only pick the weirdest dudes to make incels look like violent misogynists when literally the average man is an incel. Like literally every dude you know is probably an incel.

  • @Walkingadversity
    @Walkingadversity Před 10 měsíci +41

    Although I’m not technically an Incel since I’ve been involved in a non platonic relationship in the past, I’ve been ostracized for a long time now socially, romantically and sexually. It’s good to see the majority of the comments here showing empathy even if they disagree. While I myself don’t condone violent actions or thoughts, loneliness, deprivation, harassment in school, and rejection despite trying can really screw up your mind to the point where you MIGHT become radicalized.

  • @someonestrange2818
    @someonestrange2818 Před 11 měsíci +295

    This is depressing because they're all so young. Just a little bit of positive guidance would make a huge difference.

    • @anderson-gb8rp
      @anderson-gb8rp Před 11 měsíci +87

      Not all of us are young.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 Před 10 měsíci +46

      I've received positive guidance.
      I know now I can't expect sex without work.
      At the same time, I'm sad because other people are having sex when I'm not.
      I'm abnormal for being a virgin at 28.

  • @Ascendify5
    @Ascendify5 Před 9 měsíci +34

    most men are not incel because a 3 thinks she deserves a 10

  • @Mystefier
    @Mystefier Před 11 měsíci +45

    It's interesting differently our society treats incel men versus incel women.

  • @aixenaixen8106
    @aixenaixen8106 Před 8 měsíci +23

    Women peak at TWELVE????? thats not a woman boy thats a kid

  • @Hapacel1
    @Hapacel1 Před 10 měsíci +22

    Mogs me for having an incel friend group.

  • @Alex-kt8qe
    @Alex-kt8qe Před 11 měsíci +153

    I think there is a difference between incel and virgin. People can still be virgins and focus on passions, work or business. Incela seem to roll around in their own misery/inadequacy.

    • @scifirealism5943
      @scifirealism5943 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Yep.

    • @devaxionrl8189
      @devaxionrl8189 Před 11 měsíci +23

      The label makes no difference. It’s more of a pre-determined circumstance/situation in which men cannot get laid even if they try. The differences between a virgin who can’t get sex and doesn’t proclaim himself as a “Incel” versus one who does proclaim is essentially negligible.

    • @kareemabdul1
      @kareemabdul1 Před 11 měsíci +25

      nobody is a virgin by choice if a female hasnt said you are hot in the last MONTH! its over

    • @alexw6849
      @alexw6849 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Incel = involuntary celibate. If you want to fullfil your sexual needs but you can't then you are by definiton an incel

    • @kendreamer6376
      @kendreamer6376 Před 11 měsíci +27

      Yup alot of negative self talk and self loathing. Everyone can feel the negative vibes they are dumping out into the world. Most normal people steer clear of that type of energy. It's boardline anti social and almost psychopathy.

  • @CraxiPostazione
    @CraxiPostazione Před 10 měsíci +18

    Woah so people still use the word "incel" to talk about incels, well i'm happy about this, it's been 4 years since everyone uses the word "incel" to talk about "every person i don't agree with"

  • @MarkMark-uc6gq
    @MarkMark-uc6gq Před 10 měsíci +40

    These women get used up and then want good men

    • @zumazuma568
      @zumazuma568 Před 10 měsíci +24

      you can't "use up" a person: it's a living being, not a finite source of something that can run out.

  • @Hudson470
    @Hudson470 Před 10 měsíci +163

    I'm Incel and I'm 33 years old, I know what it's like, it's something that messes with your self-esteem too much, and can even generate emotional illnesses and scars in our soul... I think I'm ugly, discouraged, sad, head down, many girls and women already rejected me

  • @Saulgoodman67677
    @Saulgoodman67677 Před 10 měsíci +168

    I’m only 18 but from what I’ve experienced as well as seen around me, it’s normally very hard to find a girlfriend/partner if you’re only doing stuff to deliberately find a gf. You can’t join a club or social event purely for getting a gf, that’s never going to work. You need to be confident in yourself, pursue your aspirations and hobbies first. Live life, and maybe you’ll bump into someone and form a strong friendship with someone which could develop into something more eventually. It has to come naturally, you can’t force it and it sure as well doesn’t help thinking all women are the same.
    However this is only from my experience and what I’ve seen from those around me. I’m still young as well as all the other guys around me and so it’s easier to find a gf/female friends and change who we are. I rather more feel terrible for middle aged men who are lonely, idk what the solution would be.

    • @nurtaytulegenov7431
      @nurtaytulegenov7431 Před 9 měsíci +36

      There is none. At this point, a person is already formed and becomes very resistant to changing. If one is a virgin with no dating experience by the age of 23-25 (around that time), then he will remain alone in 99% of the cases. Either cope or rope

  • @reekydebbarma5397
    @reekydebbarma5397 Před 9 dny +3

    You don't have to be handsome as a male just have money and good personality

  • @yoleeisbored
    @yoleeisbored Před 11 měsíci +55

    "Hello female" wow

  • @dusklvr
    @dusklvr Před 8 měsíci +41

    All I know of love has been excruciating pain and loss.
    Everything I learned about love, I learned while working in a nursing home.

  • @juanguatemala4874
    @juanguatemala4874 Před 3 měsíci +7

    The sad thing is even if these guys did eventually meet up with a girl she probably wouldn't stick around only compounding these guys relationship problems

  • @MrFreakyFatBoy
    @MrFreakyFatBoy Před 10 měsíci +258

    I used to feel the same. I finally managed it at 34, and to be honest relationships are difficult and painful. Loneliness was easier!! But it should not be that way….. it should not be so hard. I’m 58 now and that relationship almost killed me.

  • @mikioni
    @mikioni Před 5 měsíci +118

    chad = aww he is so cute
    ugly man = eww he is a misogynist

  • @marie-ange3965
    @marie-ange3965 Před 9 měsíci +79

    Is it possible that incels have personality and character flaws that women just don't like? If you hate women then why the hell should women date you? Most women don't like assholes. Just saying

    • @admin23034_
      @admin23034_ Před 9 měsíci +43

      Damn i better stay a nice guy then 😂

  • @Ashbelfi
    @Ashbelfi Před 10 měsíci +153

    You can't blame a lot of us who literally can't find anyone here, it's just that difficult. Too high standards, passing by Peter Parker but wanting Spiderman everyday is the exact way I can describe it now.

    • @kek22219
      @kek22219 Před 10 měsíci +77

      I don't have a arm, I walk with a limp and I have autism and I have a partner. What's your excuse other than your unrealistic standards?

    • @kek22219
      @kek22219 Před 10 měsíci +57

      Trust me mate it has nothing to do with your look, it's your personality.

    • @anderson-gb8rp
      @anderson-gb8rp Před 10 měsíci +48

      The Peter Parker and Spiderman analogy is soo good and true. It's literally the same guy but in MJ's mind there is no way a nerdy loser is Spiderman, it doesn't even cross her mind that it could be him.

    • @pluckybellhop66
      @pluckybellhop66 Před 10 měsíci +38

      I can blame you. Nobody is entitled to my body. I'm a csa survivor and I just want to be alone.

    • @hardutrares643
      @hardutrares643 Před 10 měsíci +27

      cringe

  • @BlackieNuff
    @BlackieNuff Před 10 měsíci +45

    InCel Dad : "So, when you gonna get a girlfriend, Son?"
    InCel Son : "Probably when females are born blind, Dad. Or, when there are no more chads in society. Perhaps both."

  • @tvtt5380
    @tvtt5380 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Wow, this documentary is so sad and upsetting. I had no idea this was a thing.

  • @vista1456786
    @vista1456786 Před 11 měsíci +158

    The Raymond part was so depressing, seems like the gym was actually working for him (health wise), and he intentionally does not do what he enjoys due to the pursuit of a relationship.

    • @olly078
      @olly078 Před 11 měsíci +14

      Thats my man declineee

  • @cottonuwu3167
    @cottonuwu3167 Před 8 měsíci +12

    The sad thing is that its a vicius cycle. Not having luck one time worsens the next and the next and so on until they think its impossible

  • @epicmckurdi1299
    @epicmckurdi1299 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I can’t believe there’s actually a documentary!

  • @steverobinson8771
    @steverobinson8771 Před 7 dny +2

    Human beings weren't designed to be interconnected via social media and programming terminals (mobile phones).

  • @Alexander-zt9kz
    @Alexander-zt9kz Před 9 měsíci +78

    We were born ugly. The world will never forgive us for it.

  • @rojcouz2267
    @rojcouz2267 Před 6 měsíci +23

    im short and ugly and not allowed to experience love i hate this life so much there is no magic here

  • @drugsorme2714
    @drugsorme2714 Před 8 měsíci +22

    Did the incel community noticed that many of them said that they are autistic?
    Nothing wrong with having a hard time with dating if you have autism.

  • @dennisthomas1654
    @dennisthomas1654 Před 8 měsíci +12

    I HATE these manufactured labels like Incel and Karen. They are people, and all different. JFC.

  • @pjmlemon3280
    @pjmlemon3280 Před 6 měsíci +283

    shoutout to these girls who put themselves into uncomfortable situations…

  • @The_Lovey_Informer
    @The_Lovey_Informer Před 10 měsíci +110

    I learned in my 23 years of life, that you cant force things to happen. If you aren't chosen. Give up and find other things in life to focus on. Chad and Tyrones are always gonna win.

    • @muhammadhuzaifahmohamedsal2697
      @muhammadhuzaifahmohamedsal2697 Před 10 měsíci +8

      amen

    • @tessy28
      @tessy28 Před 10 měsíci +30

      Your first tip. Stop referring to people as Chads, Tyrone and Stacey's

    • @mikehvh1337
      @mikehvh1337 Před 10 měsíci +48

      truly over

    • @dannyboy3413
      @dannyboy3413 Před 10 měsíci

      Most men are brainwashed by the media and internet to put pussy on a pedestal and to think like having sex and getting laid is the sole purpose in life. Men must find their own way through this life with his own judgements, not by some autistic "pill" ideology. Internet and social media is brainwashing men.

    • @SubliminalSociety
      @SubliminalSociety Před 10 měsíci +58

      Facts. I’m not going to be the beta waiting for her during her 30s

  • @lsimon343
    @lsimon343 Před 12 dny +2

    It’s so sad that men put 80% of their self worth on their height…

  • @DoReMewMew
    @DoReMewMew Před 11 měsíci +193

    I grieve for these young men. It feels like crabs in a bucket, for them to feel so much hurt and hatred for yourself and a path of life you think you're stuck in, and to just perpetuate it...
    The darkness hatred they feel towards not just women but other groups of people is hard to look past or forgive, but the constant circulation of hatred and hurt caused by loneliness and longing for compassion and humanity... that kind of hurt runs deep, and to know there are those who would perpetuate it and continue keeping themselves and others hurting is tragic.

  • @SSmith-eu9vw
    @SSmith-eu9vw Před 10 měsíci +6

    I'm cheering for you. Raymond!!

  • @cat_astronaut_
    @cat_astronaut_ Před 8 měsíci +23

    When the 30y old man says "maybe get a job" you know exactly what is the problem. Dude, stop pursuing girls, go get a job! How do you even pay your bills, your water and house???

  • @poppyharlow7688
    @poppyharlow7688 Před 6 měsíci +21

    Can these commenters hold men accountable for blatant misogynistic views and not be all “i feel so sorry for them”. They are a self fulfilling prophecy, they hate women so they can’t date them, I would never feel sorry for someone who hates my existence simply for my gender. They are not children, they need to grow up.

  • @Grace-xu7mv
    @Grace-xu7mv Před 11 dny +3

    I’m the girl version of an incel

  • @zeamay4490
    @zeamay4490 Před 11 měsíci +6

    PART 2!!!!

  • @Nihilistic_Soul
    @Nihilistic_Soul Před 11 měsíci +43

    take the blackpill boyos it is over

  • @t.p.m.414
    @t.p.m.414 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Everyone missed the part about how bad Western dating culture is. The juice isn't worth the squeeze for some of them.

  • @claudiaborralho8887
    @claudiaborralho8887 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This is so terrbly sad that so many kids don't have the capacity to interect with the opposite sex anymore. This really worries me.

  • @MJD696
    @MJD696 Před 8 měsíci +11

    This is incredibly sad.

  • @user-ir2vx7ug4w
    @user-ir2vx7ug4w Před 5 měsíci +6

    These are not incels they're just teenage boys who don't have enough life encounters with women.

  • @ayemiksenoj5254
    @ayemiksenoj5254 Před 8 měsíci +68

    Genuine Questions:
    (Still, I won't be surprised if no one answers.)
    I just want to know would these (young) men be interested in and willing to date or be in a relationship with a woman like them?
    Would it be acceptable to them if a portion of women who were constantly rejected started to harm or unalive men?