Paris Fashion Week Fall Winter Mens 2024 Recap (Louis Vuitton, Martine Rose, Botter)
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- A complete review & recap on the happenings during Paris Fashion Week Fall Winter Menswear 2024 (FW24 / FW2024). Including reviews of runway shows and collections by brands such as Louis Vuittton (Pharrell Williams), Martine Rose & Botter (Lisi Herrebrugh and Rushemy Botter). Join the stream to chip in and add your thoughts on the brands and their fashion runway shows.
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"You're more cultured than a fashion person"
"[....] yes"
Loved this exchange 😂
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I think Jerry and fear of god did there western vibe better because they made it more modern and Pharrell LV western show felt more like Ralph Lauren
@@markcarrell8053 thanks man
@@markcarrell8053 thanks man
That smile of yours is so beautiful 😍
I am American and I am very curious to see how this collection would be seen in an Asian market. When I looked on VR at the collection by look 20 I was bored and wishing they had details shots of the bags because each look I could tie into the menswear designers Pharrell is looking at. Micah’s point on Pharrell’s personal taste being central feels correct to me but I think it works much better on the LV awards red carpet placements last week than this collection.
So many funny moments! I love that these lives are thoughtful and you and the guests go into depth. As an outsider I can tell you all have a good amount of fashion knowledge from the way you speak about things and bring up certain points I don't hear get spoken about as much.
"Rave culture is not connected to many black people in US" I always find this so intriguing considering that techno music started in Detroid and the first raves were centered around black DJs. Raves have such an unusual history.
"Urban with a hard er" was a TOP COMMENT!
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I feel like RL has a consistent aesthetic that while yes is very cliche, they are committed to exploring this aesthetic. While Virgil explored western themes (along with many other references as we know) this felt sort of out of the blue. Like, what’s next a vampire themed show or a surfer dude show?
The martine rose show atmosphere reminded me of Mugler’s shows.
At LV, this type of broad story telling feels dated. It's something I would've expected to see at Chanel with Karl or Dior with Galliano. Very early-mid aughts. For a while now collections for many creative directors have been more intellectual and more specific than this LV show appears to be. But I do have a soft spot for old school big-budget shows like this. They're fun and easy to follow. I think Pharrell is off to a good start and his themes will become more refined
Intellectual means, most people don't get it, the too woke for school designers, I love the old school themes, easy to get and aesthetically pleasing without left wing politics shoved down our throats.
@@gobyfish1399 It's interesting that you think an "intellectual" collection is synonymous with "left-wing politics" and being "too woke."
don't compare this pile of shit with masters like karl and galliano.
Because the fashion critics ( especially professional ones ) are super woke, their only references and knowledge is left wing politics, left wing interpretation of arts and culture, they know nothing (and have zero interest ) in knowing anything about sports, rap, hip hop, country music, mainstream movies, Middle America, etc anything people from outside London, LA and NY non left wing elitists are interested in. So they look at collections and go " so boring traditional classic" or "so streetwear, so black urban " etc They only like Yohji, Rick, Comme, or queer fashion, the anti Armani, anti Michael Kors, anti Ralph Lauren. Anything that is just intrinsically beautiful without left wing pretensions is bad. Their minds are as narrow as their critiques. @@haute03
@@gobyfish1399 Sounds like you're painting with a really broad brush. I think you're confusing professional critics and uneducated people with loud opinions.
20 minutes in thank you for addressing that!
Streetwear is different to street style. The two terms are often used interchangeably but they actually mean different things. Streetwear refers to the genre of fashion associated with subculture and counter culture (it's also lowkey used as a euphemism for 'urban' or relating to skaters or hip hop culture), think brands like Stussy, Supreme, BBC, etc. Street style refers to localised trends seen on 'everyday people' on the streets, the bottom up fashion trends created informally maybe started by an individual or small groups (think tucking trousers into socks, the way certain people in a particular neighbourhood dress). Street style is bottom up cos designers reference what people are wearing rather than the other way round. Both streetwear and street style are important elements of fashion but they are distinct and i think it's important our awareness of BOTH are kept alive and not conflated.
While I do agree that’s the textbook definition of what streetwear is (clothing that derives from things like hip hop, skateboarding, surf culture etc) I was referring to a more modern use of streetwear as a word and critiquing how it’s now just a word used to critique majority POC designers when people don’t like their clothes
@@FashionRoadman yea they BEEN doing that with the word streetwear, its a euphemism for unrefined/rough round the edges/"fun". Like you said when the reference points are more "URBAN 😂" or rooted in POC culture, somehow the end result isn't valued as much. And it's not always down to poor execution.
We enjoy the livestreams!
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
3:13 - Initial Thoughts on Paris Fashion Week
4:59 - Upcoming Reviews: Louis Vuitton, then Martine Rose, and Botter
8:12 - Louis Vuitton Review (incl. Louis Vuitton's collaborations with Native American artists for this collection & western aesthetic)
15:48 - Louis Vuitton x Timberland Collaboration
17:36 - Philosophy of This Louis Vuitton Collection
1:12:39 - Martine Rose's Global Reach
1:27:15 - Martine Rose Design Influences
1:31:32 - Martine Rose Show Format
1:36:49 - 80s & 90s British Influence on Martine Rose's Work
2:25:17 - Botter Review
2:34:15 - Fashion Roadman After-Hours Lounge (various topics from chat incl. footwear discussion - resurgence of astro turf trainers as a fashion trend)
Blessing's from The M ost High Brother's , Dropping Gem's
Is this streamed on Twitch?
Not yet, but I’m planning to start twitch streaming soon
Don't pay attention to what LV/Pharrell does. It's designed to make money, and will be exploitative no matter the context. If you're thinking it's deeper than that it's a mistake.
Will also be forgotten in a year..
That hideous millionaire bag told me everything I need to know hahah
Still sad we got mumford and sons instead of carti
Yes, they were and that's why they were called cowboys and not men!
Why don’t you cover more different designers showing in Paris
I plan to, this is the first stream of many about this season. + even in this stream I covered Botter which I haven’t in the past
Please add your live chats
1:43:14 Fashion Roadman needs to stop speaking over his guest looooooool
My bad 😂
Camden = Skid Row?!?!?? Wtfff
A native perspective? Louis Vuitton is a French fashion house exploiting native culture by marketing these south western native inspired products to the wealthy which typically isn't indigenous people.
More so over, despite using some native models and co-collaborators, having these south western native inspired pieces be manufactured by those who aren't indigenous essentially takes away jobs from indigenous people. Not to mention the now increase in price of these materials that indigenous people have been using for generations. While Pharrell's attempt to offer indigenous peoples a platform to use as a foundation to build upon, he is also contributing to the struggle of indigenous creators who have been designing pieces like these all by themselves for generations. So although I and many other of my indigenous kins and companions are appreciative of the inclusion and recognition, we are also resentful of the system that has forced us to rely on other voices to advocate our stories.
Kinda similar in concept to "Bamboozled" a movie Spike Lee made in reflection of his own experience becoming a black film maker in a white dominated industry, having to play along with the system in order to advance; but "at what cost?"
Words by a Sicangu Lakota from the Rosebud Sioux Tribe
LV men's is so boring. So many brands have dipped into this same pool. Not original. Ralph Lauren did this many decades ago. Pharrell has to come up with something original. First sucking up to the Chinese 1% now this last season. Please come up with something unique.
Entertaining!