How Kratos Got to Midgard FINALLY REVEALED!!! (GOD OF WAR LORE)
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Still wrong because "world" is more in reference to a "specific region" that a certain mythology covers symbolically. Atlas dropping the world is more in reference to the destruction of the region Greek mythology took place in more specifically southern Europe throughout the Mediterranean into Persia. Norse mythology is northern Europe, Eastern Europe, Western Russia, Iceland and arguably Northern Canada potentially into most of the Arctic/Tundra of the northern hemisphere.
@@dannyxxboii8838 after watching this video I question this guys intelligence and ego. Calling it a fact when he is clearly the one misinterpreting what was explained as one world separated by geography. Not hard to grasp that different regions of earth had different religions they worshipped
@@YoureTooEZ basically also let's not forget what throws many people off is Norse mythology has multiple realms within their specific "Regional Realm" 💯
Barlog literally says they’re separated by GEOGRAPHY.
Me
Kratos the only mass murderer I’d ever respect.
Not the punisher?
Master chief?
Darth Vader?
Lol nope 😂only Kratos and maybe the alternate universe version of Batman where it’s Bruce Wayne’s dad
Nathan drake?
Also remember when Frey asked kratoes "have you been to hel" and he said "NOT THIS ONE"
Chicks Dig Me different dimensions in different regions on earth. Nothing to do with space.
@@JBurnz001 did I talk about space and different dimensions are made of space so idk what you're talking about
@@JBurnz001 what are you talking about
@@JBurnz001 stupid bitch
That's a good point lad
Let me summarize: remember that scene in “The Nightmare Before Christmas” where Jack finds the doors to other holiday worlds? And how they all share access to our world?
That.
🎶 what’s this? what’s this? there’s body’s everywhere. What’s this? What’s this? There’s giants over there…. 🎶
Perfect comparison
Cool
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT BRO
@@NavyVet4955 “I can’t believe my eyes I must be dreaming wake up kratos this isn’t fair! What’s this!?”
i simply thought it was different dimensions it makes more sense than spacetravel to me
The word dimensions works better than galaxys
Or realm... Realm works to
I agree
There is no space travel. Nor different dimensions. They all exist on planet at same time
@@Gwynbleidd_117 🤦🏾♂️
Atreus: Father... mother told me there were only 9 realms.
Kratos: quiet boi, you know very little.
quiet
Darth Sand 9 “Norse” realms.
Leosol Canonizado it’s a joke
There's also a shadow realm
Cyen Esclanda we all make mistakes in the heat of passion jimbo
I feel like it's simply realm separation. All of the pantheons share the same planet concurrently, just not the same dimension.
YES this is what was I looking for
This comment needs to be up
but HOW did kratos cross dimensiona
That’s exactly what it is. That’s exactly what Cory said at GDC. ALL the pantheons exist on the planet concurrently and are only separated by GEOGRAPHY. His exact words.
Well Greek is in Greece and Norse is in Norway so he could just go by boat then next he goes to England,Egypt, Japan, Russia, China,India
Important to point out that, during one of the boat conversations, Mimir suggests that Odin is interested in Kratos because he comes from a realm that Odin does not have control over. So yeah, its definitely canon that Kratos' realm is different.
freya literally says you are not from this realm like 3 hours in the game
@@nicehomelander Yeah...but that could be interpreted as a figure of expression.
@@paladingeorge6098 Tyr has literally traveled to all the realms, Egyptian/Mayan included so they're all connected somehow
Also, Cory Barlog literally describes how every Pantheon exists within their own "galaxy" in a single universe.
@@FatalShotGG yes idk why people still argue about it, its a pretty simple concept that ties everything together and its backed by ingame lore and game director's statements
I totally believe it’s parallel dimensions, cohesively resting on the shoulders of each other, harmoniously. I mean the Norse “Bifrost” shows us that it’s already possible in the Norse creation, which is why Kratos continues to say of Ragnorok: “it doesn’t concern them” because he’s already seen the downfall of a complete pantheon (of his own doing) & knows there IS an “outside the realm”.
Yeah kinda like the DC multiverse.
One question:What is the Door,or where is the door that Kratos went through,to go to Midgard?
Wrong. Barlog litteraly says they are separated by geography. The universe (in the Hubble pic) is the world, the galaxies are the mythologies. They are local like countries on the planet. Galaxies are not in another dimension, we can see them.
@@waynec38 In the God of War book it’s said that Kratos was actually dragged to Midgard by the 3 great wolves (fenris and the other 2) and someone covered in a cloak. That was like 70 or so year before the game.
@DiZ Zkl This right here finally someone states it!
Man, the God of War sequels are gonna be insane...
Assuming they ever get made
@@brendan6261 I think they will. I mean the game made a lot of money and won GOTY.
@@brendan6261
"Assuming a new Marvel Cinematic Universe movie gets made"
@@brendan6261 Ofcourse they're a gonna make sequels. The game got GOTY and made millions.
Im praying that they will make sequels after this pandemic outbreak.
When artreus says the world serpant stretch's around the entire world , kratos laughs and says unlikely because he's seen the world and that serpant isn't there
The director says that the Greeks see their “world” destroyed because their world is Greek centric meaning what I think is that kratos just destroyed Greece and not the world. And that explains why he’s in an untouched Scandinavia
@@rosdos100 What you are saying doesn’t make sense. How are there different creation stories and gods sharing the same powers/domains? They are in different realms/dimensions, end of story.
@@SurveyorStudios The director explains it. The Greeks see their world as just their own area, norway sees it the same way as they're obviously not geographically close
@@rosdos100 So is Atlas holding up the earth or just Greece? I dont know, the same planet theory allows for inconsistencies like this. Theres already a precedent set with different realms and parallel universes so.
@@SurveyorStudios I understand what you're saying and that's why i said what i said, maybe it is just greece because the greeks thought the world revolved around them.
My idea of how it worked was that the Greek world, and the Greek Pantheon was just another realm, like the same as Asgard is to Midgard, but on an even larger scale. I almost imagined that these 9 realms existed in Norse mythology because they were easy to travel in between, but travelling to entire other dimension (another version of the world with an entirely different pantheon) was a much larger task.
This the best one yet
This is exactly what I was thinking. Another thing to consider is that they must explain it in the next game it they are to travel to a different mythology, and I find it will be much easier to explain travelling through realms which is already established than to show kratos and atreus flying through galaxies.
I mean tyr went to Greek pantheon so idk how this works then
@@LucyTheGoose103 cuz he was constantly traveling and trying to unite people everywhere, it was his whole goal so he probably had ways
Sadly, Barlog already state on his Twitter that Kratos was just travel from Greece to Scandinavia
One think people forget so much is when you get the Unity stone for the first time ever Mimir was shocked that it existed and it explained how Tyr was able to visit all the realms and other mythologies
My theory is that tyr was observing kratos since he killed ares and when he killed zeus maybe tyr wanted kratos to rid asgard from their own evil gods
Møñ Čēf i can see this happening
Then Kratos was right, there are no good gods.
This needs resource
I watched another video that explained why Kratos may be/become Tyr.
or maybe he was collecting the gods of war
my knowledge for the God Of War series is far more better than my knowledge for school
Mine too lol
My brain likes retaining info that's easy to remember. Now I know y I got an F in Algebra
We do that whenever we play new games
Me tooo
Almost all gamers
If they ever needed to make a spin off kratos going from 3 to 4 would be a solid story. I think they have a shared world, but I they are separated magically, meaning you can only affect another place by traveling to it physically, so if one world ends that's all that happens it ends, the others remain unaffected
It’s a comic
Also Cory Barlog: "I see all mythologies as creation stories of different cultures throughout the world. All of them exist from the beginning of time until now, they are just separated by geography. The Mayan creation story is happening at the same time as the Greek creation story, and all these mythologies exist on one planet together." Key words: world, geography, planet.
Freya acknowledging Kratos hailing from a different realm actually serves the opposite purpose of proving he's from a different galaxy. The literal definition of realm can either be "a primary biogeographical division of the earth's surface," or "a field or domain of activity or interest."
Mortals perceive each mythos encompassing the entirety of the world due to their limited knowledge, while Gods like Kratos and Mimir understand its fallacy. Mimir recognizes their location as the northern part of the planet, and Kratos is in disbelieve Jormungandr encircles the world.
As a soft-reboot, GoW2018 retconned what was originally meant to be the Greek pantheon responsible for the origin of the universe, to each pantheon responsible for the origin of their respective country. So your poll results were actually on the nose.
There's just so much contradictory evidence for this train of thought, it would have been much simpler for him to just say it's different dimensions on top of one another. It's not hard to imagine Greece just being another realm that is now destroyed, sort of like how Mortal Kombat treats its realms. But to try to say they're all geographically located on the same planet and just accept all the bizarre physical impossibilities that go along with that is stupid almost beyond comprehension.
Freya could have meant anything from a small ant to a big whale. By the statement "ik enough" and with "not of this realm" because she was the literal wife of Odin and she would know all of the gods plus she knows vanir/dark magic.
I have one thing to say to this.... what is one of the first things baldur says to kratos? "You never should have come to midgard" as if greece isnt apart of midgard at all
@@thekommunistkrusader3921 that's because Baldur thought Kratos was the giant that Odin sent him after, when it turns out it was Faye. So he was referring to Jotunheim
@@marcusn.7865 is that so? Suppose it makes sense when he said "thought you would be bigger" but I dunno
So... there must be a Shrek realm somewhere out there...
I can't stop imagining Kratos and Shrek fighting with each other
@@ivans.5959 even better, adventure pals
Just an argument between them would be dope
Kratos”I’ve killed plenty of Ogres like you”
Shrek”You’re not the only one here who’s fought a dragon before!”
It would be a tag team. Shrek and Donkey VS Kratos and Arteues.
I geeked so hard when Kratos said the symbols meant war, it was so hard
Imagine as he said that he follows with "I know this because I am *looks at camera* the God of War" then a live audience is shocked and loud murmurs occur.
@@stevencortez7057 Ace Attorney vibes lmao
This proves he really IS the God of War
@@stevencortez7057 🎶Uuuuuuuund svííííííííííííííííthuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur🎶
🎶Uuuuuuuund svííííííííííííííííthuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur🎶
what is geeking mean
No he’s saying that the pantheons are separated geographically meaning the people of each pantheon don’t know that other land outside of their own exist.
Idk why you are the only one who gets it smh
@@AngelsbytheNumbers just because you are separated geographically doesnt mean that they wont know something is out there. I am separated from spain that doesnt mean I dont know it exists, or that someone can travel there tell me about it etc. Also how can they not "know· you have odin who is a mad man of power and never crossed his mind to go to other "lands" so he like other gods in other pantheons none of them with the abilities and powers they have their reach never bother to go to other places. ??.
This doesn’t make sense tho since it’s been proven ancient cultures did know about each other and possibly even traveled to and from.
@@AngelsbytheNumbers I'dk why you think that is a correct statement cause logically that doesn't make sense
@@AscndedAssassin yea fr also beings like Gaia could see everything past and Future so how would she not know other God's existed
I’d be amaze if they ever released a GoW based on Egyptian mythology
Most likely, it's been hinted
I saw a video where Cory had it pitched before this Nordic one. Had a small clip and all.
teen loki and kratos venturing through a dessert, pretty good
please god let it be Chinese mythology i wanna see kratos fight onis so bad
Kratos would lose to the Egyptian gods. The Egyptian gods are more unique and way way stronger then Norse and Greek gods.
If MCU has “Multi-verse”, GOW must have “Multi-Realms”
@William Wykoff we have established already that that isnt the case here
MCU is not the only that has multiverses
@@pepegola7920 no one said it did
@William Wykoff how so
Marvel has a Omni-verse
I can't wait to see kratos having a fight with jesus
Jesus ends Kratos’ existence
He'd be the one to crucify him lol
@@notashark5189 no that was the jews
No
Jesus forgives him. instant KO
I believe it to simply be a different realm. Just like jotenheim, and muslhspheim etc. They exist upon each other in different spaces. Similar to how dwarfs travel
Exactly
I cant believe how informed you are, my high ass just watch the images for a while and making unreal scenarios from itxd I’m glad you made this video
Kratos in Egypt fighting against Ra, Anubis etc, or him in japan fighting against Susanoo, Amaterasu, Raijin etc man that would lit 🔥
That would take a looot if time with this game development time.
Then god of war will become an assassin creed franchise 2.0
Somebody plays smite
@Dragon Piper 369 Amen to that bruhh. Jesus will throw lots of bread to kratos for sure
That was partially the original plan for GoWIII, Kratos would kill the greek gods at the beginning, then the other patheons would show up to try to dominate take control, which would include Norse, Egyptian and Hindu gods.
Honestly, it would be too much, old GoW games already did a crap job in showing off Greek gods, since most have little characterization and explanation of who they are, putting 3 other patheons in the same game would make it so they would be even worse.
Mimir “I can’t believe i’m hanging from the hip of the Ghost of Sparta”
Kratos: Do not call me that
you forgot the "bloody" word lol
Well it beats being stuck to a tree stump and torchered for centuries.
I believe the word was "dangling"
He knew of Greek I wonder if he knows the other words too
Cory Balrog said it himself that these mythologies are different galaxies that can only be accessed by special travel ways, like Tyr did.
Been watching since you had only a couple thousand subscribers. So glad you made it this far, Kuba
*Short answer: by boat*
By *space boat*
Evol_253kッ smh, tyr traveled to other realms(regions) by boat. Nothing to do with space. This guy who made the video just didn’t understand what Cory was trying to explain when it came too how the god of war universe works.
@@JBurnz001 ok, but did I ask?
Evol_253kッ the button says reply, not ask can you reply.
@@JBurnz001 Cory literally said the word "galaxies". If that's not space stuff then I don't know what is.
Mimir also mentions gods from 'a great desert land far away'
Massopotamian?
As someone from Iraq I would love to see them in god of war
@@theworldisfuckedupatm3398 or he means Egyptian lol
@Kevin Rosemond ye Anubis is an Egyptian god
@@theworldisfuckedupatm3398 nope, Egyptian
I think he means the egyptian pantheon, although I wanna see Kratos 1v1 the christian skydaddy lol
There is one more thing that makes this true, you remember the part where Freya tells Kratos that in helheim no magic in all the realms can create a spark, but his blades can light ablaze? Simply its not part of any of the nordic realms, allowing to blaze away in Helheim
I got up and examined it myself as well, I still believe that it's a shared world, only, each pantheon is so hard to go from one to the other that they consider it a different world/realm. It wouldnt surprise me if each of the 9 realms are actually 9 continents for which the Vikings or Asgardians have traveled.
Midgard serpent and world tree disprove this
Makes no sense
@@lxxdccvii4805 think about it, even if his fangs were as big as trees and his body circled the world, what if the world/relm is not meaning the planet?
@@lxxdccvii4805 well if the we use the same argument in the video where the world to each pantheon was their respective homeland then this wouldnt be an issue actually.
*Kratos arrives in Norse Mythology*
Norse gods: heave breathing
@Dragon Piper 369 Jesus!
Kratos from wine gods arrives in Norse Mythology
Norse gods: *all beeing war gods*
Kratos: *SWEATS*
@@OrIoN1989 wine gods☠️
wait how do the norse god (like mimir know of kratos and zeus and all the other pantheons.
@@snippysilver8357 all these comments were months ago your not gonna get an answer
Yo... When atreus says the world serpent is wrapped around the world kratos says that it is an exaggeration, the could be true for atlas holding the world, it could be only the greek part, like a continental plate or something.
When kratos kills helios the sun isn't gone what actually happens is clouds covering the sky, by the end of the third game the sun is at the horizon so you can see it's not the whole world covered with clouds!
And also, Mimir says "i already knew you were greek" meaning there is a place called greece, not a galaxy. I believe the creation of the world are also legends not literal events, so maybe it is in the same planet!
The issue of the sun is not the covering of clouds, it the multiple gods who have to share them, like i said in the video mimir does pose a small problem. But you cant deny what cory says in the video
@@KaptainKuba True!
Kaptain Kuba well, different places on earth have different weather and climates so it might not be that different gods have to “share” the sun, but just control how the weather impacts the sun’s effects in those regions.
@@miiketookit Cory has already compared the pantheons to going to another country, but instead it's more the pantheons are separated by dimensions, which is how the Primordials made the Greek version of the Universe and Ymir made the Norse Universe, each mythical story and creation still happened, in an interview 2 dev's say you could get to the Egyptian version of Alfheim which wouldn't be true if there was not a full version of the planet but just the Norse area. Pretty confusing, but each God and Titan still controls their own element or area.
@@KaptainKuba in one of the games you fight persians
in one of the DLCs or whatever
As another comment long before me mentioned, This is almost exactly like in A Nightmare Before Christmas. These different realms and mythologies share a world, but there's doorways and other passages between them. They exist on the same planet, separated by geography and likely some form of magical barriers, but its not impossible to just sail from Greece to Scandinavia. Just like if Jack kept walking, maybe he could have walked to another holiday without the doorways. Or for Kratos to get dragged like a dog toy through a magical doorway or other passage.
If that’s the case then that means that each mythology would have their own version of earth right? If so then would that mean that the Norse mythology earth would have its own version of Greece and vice versa? or am I looking too deep into it? 🤔
I think that when Freyja sais "not of this Realm" she is simply talking about "One of the nine Realms"
So even if kratos is done with this realm, he’s still got at least two more to go to according to the tyr panel. Man I might not even be alive by then.
Kratos won't be as well.
@@johnrenatoabenion6816 the old man died at least 3 times already, he is an immortal
I don't think they'll do all of them. Greek and Norse gods are the most well known...you might just be able to do Egyptian god's but anymore after that and you're risking burnout.
@@0saintclark0
Good writing will never cause burnouts
@@0saintclark0 killing gods never causes burnouts
"it's not a theory it's a fact"
"mimir and Freya do cause a problem in this theory" bruh
How?
@@giokyo9465 no, I'm talking about how he tries to say its a fact instead of a theory and then contradicts that
@@aspen1889 how does he contradict himself ? Am i missing something ? How do freya and mimir cause a problem ?
@@aspen1889 even cory barlog said it the pantheons live in different galaxies but in the same universe so yea its fact ..
@@giokyo9465 dude I mean the use of theory and fact I'm not disagreeing with anything I'm just saying the wording-
You could explain Mimir through the fact Similar Pantheons are closer to one another. So Norse and Celtic are perhaps close and Mimir did exactly as he said. Traveled north from his homeland (Scotland) and eventually arriving on the shores of Midgard.
While I tend to agree that having the pantheons in non-overlap spaces, makes the most sense, the insinuation that the word “realm“ is somehow definitive is not a very good argument. “Realm“ has multiple uses. But the most common is “kingdom“. therefore, if you wanted to argue the position that all of these pantheons exist on the same planet, all that would mean is that Kratos comes from an area under the dominion of a different pantheon.
Thor Vs Kratos has the potential to be one of the most hectic fights we will ever see in a videogame
It would end in a draw or retreat of one party cause Thor is destined to die by the world serpent
@@ark3371 I don't think the god of war saga really cares about those things. Especially people's destiny.
@@ark3371 maybe kratos leaves thor unconscious and the world serpent finishes him off
I hope we get to wield the Mjolnir as well. Or if not just give us an epic cutscene with Kratos using it to defeat the god of thunder with his own hammer then destroy it in the process.
@@ark3371 kratos can change fates and he changed the fate of magni and modi
"You are a pawn in the game that you don't even know is being played. Pathetic" - Thanatos.
Le player : "GEORGE THEY'RE INTO US!!"
Actually Thanatos got a point tho
Makuta Firkax
He was talking about the gods and their plan to kill off his family to make him a god. Dumbass
He shouldn't snap
@@blackstardragon_ Learn how 2 meme, dumbass. ;)
Cory took this game to levels that even the creator would never of been able to do.
Imagine a war between all deities from all cultures where Kratos leads one side like Sheppard did with the alliance against the Reapers. Some sort of "deities world war" or a "cosmic war" at a universe extinction level.
Shut up and take my money!
native american gods be like: HEY HOW ARE YOU NOW DIE
Before watching the video, I theorize that each and every pantheon themselves are stuck inside pocket dimensions inside a single world where all they're origin stories only affects the pocket dimension they're in
Exactly this, it's the same point Barlog was saying.
With you on this as well, with the earth being a nexus like anchor point for all the godly realms, each ruling over their respective land of origin.
What if they were gods of different planet's they came to earth to rule the land they occupied
Something easier that would make sense is that each pantheon rules a parallel earth, like different universes
Very Plausible
I dunno man, rember Mimir still says to Kratos at one point "By the way I already guessed you were greek. "Athena"? gave yourself away with that one"
Yah. there is too much contradicting his theory. i think the most plausible theory would be different dimensions within the same world
What does that contradict?
@@atifkhudadad9737 did you disregard the speech from Cory?
The idea that all the different “galaxies” are sparks of different cultures but they take place in the same planet is awesome.
It's more likely that each pantheon has their own respective "realm", or they share the same fabric of reality but in a different dimensional plane. It would make much more sense if we think about it similar with the bifrost. This is the questions i am anticipating to get answered in ragnarok.
When Freya said “Not of this Realm” I thought she meant “This Country/Land”.
She most likely did
@@badbunnyfan8271 but alfeim helheim etc is not a different country/land but she calls them realms as well
Limitless but Midgard is a realm, and Greece is obviously a different ‘realm’ from Midgard. Since realm is just another way of saying kingdom, or domain, it’s too broad to be used exclusively to describe only countries or dimensions
@@badbunnyfan8271 but based on her knowledge most likely shes referring to them as a different place altogether
Kensei Hayabusa She cant have meant that Kratos is from one of the nordic realms. If he was, she must have known about him in some way or even met him in one of the realms. She can only mean it the View of „different Galaxies“ thing
Looks like Kratos will meet Emperor Palpatine.
Randomness infinite
Kratos vs The Senate
Might even introduce him as a spiderman villain
Kratos becomes the greatest sith lord of all time
@@lixd3054 a sith lord?
Now that you mentioned it, Tyr boat can fly just as Atreus said in Helheim so it made sense why he travels to every pantheon.
Is that the thing that is in the trailer when there flying🤔
This video explained alot more than expected thanks
I can wait to watch the next fast and furious movies when kratos emerges from crowd ready to race torreto
Toretto wins. Cuz he's got family by his side
Toretto has family but Kratos kills families
@@itsjohnnyr8560 but kratos only killed his family, so Dom is superior in that respect
@@SamVibezz massacred my boy
@@SamVibezz Kratos killed *All* of the Greek families
When Atreus asks the head how did oden know “where we were going”. The head adds that oden is a collector of prophecy. Oden does this for control. The head then says “oden would like to control everything from the realms, lands and worlds”. Letting us know that all three are different.
Now this confirms that what freya did say was in fact true since she said that kratos was from a different realms all together.
Odin
I'm pretty sure the game never mentioned Oden
@@CyrusP.then u never played the game and it's Odin
@@ericgonzalez9681 is it Odin? WOW! I never knew that!!!
I doubt anyone will see this at this point but I always just figured that the gods would come and go as the belief in them would rise and fall. For example kratos killing the Greek gods was the literal representation of Hellenism going extinct. Him making his way to Scandinavia and encountering the Norse gods would make sense because they could come into existence as their religion is created and they didn’t exist during the time of the Greek pantheon. Clearly this isn’t the case but I think that it’s a interesting idea of how they could have done it
It's simple. Mimir was close to the giants, same as Tyr which by the ragnarok trailer we can confirm that Tyr is a giant himself despite having all dwarf sons.
Freya was also somewhat close to the giants.
The giants were the best a prophecies and as we can see, Tyr could travel in between the realms and he's a giant beloved by all because he would share knowledge with all peoples that would come from all over to offer him gifts.
We all said “war” when we saw the omega
5:54
You see him traveling to other mythologies
And on the bottom you see Japanese Egypt and shit
It's crazy
Egypt in the left, japanese in the middle and aztec in the right
Tyr definitley was in the Greek pantheon...
Doing what?
_only time will tell._
@@donlalo2002 where did they get roconized
I’ve never played a single GoW game and these videos are still entertaining as hell lmao
Great vid , facts over theories with evidence and reason.
That image ain't a compass, it's a message, Ragnarok will happen 2 days before the day after tomorrow
Today...
Jus say today fuck I couldn’t understand that lmao
@@briivsss it was a South Park reference
lol you're a fucker.
what
Here is your explanation:
"Cory Barlog hinted in an interview with IGN how Kratos got to Norse world.
Basically, God's in the GoWverse are not planetary governing beings. The Greek/Roman God's ruled over their respective lands while God's of other lands rule over their respective lands.
So in the GoWverse, there are multiple afterlife's that you go to depending on where you're from and what God's hold dominion over your land, multiple God's of the sea with I presume select sea God's ruling over parts of the ocean closest to themselves, etc.
Basically, all Kratos did to get to Scandanavia is he literally left Greece and traveled across Europe until he came into lands ruled by the Norse God's. Midgard and the land where Kratos came from are from the same planet, we never actually see the scope of destruction in GoW3 outside of the immediate vicinity of Athens and around Mount Olympus and most mythologies aren't told from a perspective of the world at large but only the limited geographical scope of the people who wrote the myths.
This means all Kratos would have to do to encounter the Eygptian God's is to travel to Egypt and to encounter the Shinto God's he would simply need to travel to Japan.
This makes things a bit more underwhelming, but killing the Greek pantheon didn't throw the entire planet into an Apacolypse, only the land of Greece. The lands governed by other God's weren't thrown into chaos as they have their own afterlife, sun god, sea god, etc."
Miyazaki Fanboy Hurr Durr finally it seemed so likely that they are just different lands and the serpent spans like all of Scandinavia. but apparently it’s more likely that the Vikings god and Greek god live on different planets the same as earth in every way except different gods. if they to some “infinite worlds” shit with GOW I’ll be so pissed it’s just a cop out for shit writing
Jake Smiff how’s that? It’s hardly far-fetched considering the other time and dimensional travel we’ve already seen in the God of War universe
An Internet User what dimensions travelling unless you mean the different realms in new game but that’s explained as there all there at once in the same physical space not like dimensions stuff I know there was time travel in like end of 2-3 but different universes would be so unsatisfying Imo
@@smiff513 Did you and OP even see the video? It's basically confirmed that it's different Earths from different far away places in space.
Also, your first reply doesn't make any sense, first you say that it's different Earths with different Gods, then you go now to say that *IF* it turns out to be infinite worlds then that's a cop out.
Space Pope i didn’t day it was infinite worlds i meant that multiple earths the same but with different gods is essentially infinite worlds and I would be disappointed by that
Awsome video! And Intresting information!!
I think that each region of earth that has different pantheons act as separate worlds on their own but are connected geographically as our planet is. Jormungandr is as long as Scandinavia and Apollo is the god of the sun only in the greek region. That art depicting that there are different planets was probably just a different way of conveying that. If you are still not convinced, think on this; if the world serpent is big enough to wrap around the entire world, wouldn't his head be much much larger? It would make much more sense if his body was the length of Scandinavia.
Ok but Greece and Egypt arent that far away. So wouldnt the gods try to dominate each other? And what about all the origin stories like with Gaia and Uranus? Wouldnt that contradict all other creation stories?
@@grantwalter2243 Well yes and no. The GOW world/universe is pretty ambiguous.
@@dylandeeny8247 There is a shitton of contradictions. Apollo literally has dominion over the sun, what happens to the egyptian counterpart? or the norse counterpart? do they take turns? it's beyond retarded how little sense that makes
@@grantwalter2243 Kratos has been to Egypt and met the god Thoth.
@Grant Walter haha you said Uranus
"The boat's captain key" treasure map quest completely shits on your theory, it says in the quest text that a man saild and crashed in Norse land after his captain was swallowed by the hydra referring to the first game's first boss.
Wait that doesn't make sense a e
@@ahmadbaalbaki4158 care to elaborate?
@@mh287 ohhhhhhhhhhh appologies i completely read that wronh
@@ahmadbaalbaki4158 no problem.
A hydra isn't a singular creature though. Hydra are a species so this is not true at all.
In a GameInformer interview, Matt Sophos, one of the writers, literally says Midgard is Earth and Kratos just sailed from Greece to Scandinavia.
What he said at the interview was super easy to understand that he meant that Greece was seen as its own little world because they didn't know what lied beyond the seas, so kratos sailed, this dude goes way beyond the meaning of what he said in that interview
So basically like a lot of theorist who take things too literal
@mira11 How?
@@cheezyblaztoyzeswet2674 It being the same planet causes a lot of inconsistencies and continuity errors. Kratos literally killed Gaia(kinda the earth itself in a weird way), Poseidon(the ocean), Helios(the sun), Hera(plants), and many other miscellaneous deities. The world completely fell apart. It doesn’t make any logical sense for the gods Kratos killed to be sharing the world with the Norse ones. Not only would the Norse gods be confused as hell about why their world is falling apart, but Zeus’ and Thor’s pretentious asses would’ve been starting a war every time lightning struck lol
@@justaperson9995 they're very far in-between, just take jorgmungandr as example, it's gigantic but only spams through all scandinavia. Consider the distance between greece and finland, no way gods would even acknowledge the existence of other pantheons, they have problem enough on their respective realms.
Also gaia was the world for Greece, that's not hard to understand. The apocalypse thing on gow 3 was just Greece-wide
The map in god of war has this inscribed ring around the world if you look carefully. I imagine this is the edge of the realm and once crossed it goes into another realm or space between the realms but these borders stop whats going on in the Norse realms from interacting with the other realms, this would explain why the sun being destroyed in the Greek realm doesn’t affect the Norse realm, as each realm is a manifestation of its mythology untouched because of the border rings around them. Sort of like a big dome and these domes are all around the world.
This makes the most sense lowkey, the gods of each pantheon are restricted as the further away from their “realm” their believers are scarcer therefore their influence and powers are diminished to nothing, allowing other gods to have influence on their own believers. I can’t remember for sure but I’m pretty sure that the gods powers only exist as long as people believe in them.
Yess, I agree on this. The universe in gow are morelikely flat earthed. Because in the greece, atlas can hold the earth like its flat
There are more elements supporting the pantheons sharing the same earth than there are elements supporting "space travel"
Also realm literally means many things including land or domain.
Kind of far fetched honestly and the worst part is that we see stuff from greece in Scandinavia in the game.
Each Pantheon has its own realm of influence this is not unheard of, Rick Riordan has done excellent work with this very theme in his books and here we are talking about two pantheons far apart from each other both in time and in location.
The game world is based off of Iceland, the Asa Pantheon really didn't take shape until the Dark Ages while by the Dark Ages greek Pantheon was already dead and buried.
Cory Barlog said all the pantheons exist in the same world but they’re separated by geography
As in dimension/galaxies, he literally just said that in the clip he showed.
I am surprised how much selective hearing is helping this video. Cory says the universe of the mythologies is the world(Earth). Making this video totally invalid.
@@user-rd5dw9xj9n He say each Ideology live on the same world but in it's own galaxy, places or geographic problably what it means is that in one earth Greece is everywhere in that place while in the other Midgard exist but not greece and the only way to get there is troo a portal like when the war between the Asgardian and the Vanir Gods happen so it does make sense. Because the Asgardians have their own planet while the Vanir have their and we call it realms but they have entire galaxies as well as us.
he literally just said in the clip it's different galaxies .. did you even watch the video ? 🤦🏽♂️ smfh
@@user-rd5dw9xj9n Fam, he just defined what he means by 'world' in the video. Rewatch it or something.
I have a real good suspicion that we will find out somehow eventually that the Valks brought Kratos to the 9 realms, it's mentioned in GOW that the Valks search for fallen warriors to fight during Ragnarok and Kratos emphasizes the part where Mimir says "any battle" as if he is surprised to hear that, I would bet GOOD money that Tyr sent Valks to find Kratos after his battle with Zeus and after Athena pulls the blade of Olympus from his body and he was born anew in the 9 realms, not physically born anew but metaphorically, brought by the Valks and "given" another chance to make amends with his own torment and a chance to forget.
I feel like kratos just stared at a frog then got teleported to midgard
@@averageamogusenjoyer5240 💀
@@averageamogusenjoyer5240 lmao
this is a really good theory
Of every comment I read this actually seems most plausible
During the fight with Baldur in the beginning of God of War 2018, Baldur says to Kratos "You should never have come to Midgard". The term Midgard is a reference to the Universe in which the Norse Pantheon resides. Not just a small location on Earth. Confirming that Kratos left the 'World' (Realm) of the Greek Pantheon, and entered the 'World' (Realm) of the Norse Pantheon. Kratos and Atreus travel to different Realms during the game as well like Midgard, Alfheim, Muspelheim, Niflheim, Helheim, Jotunheim, etc. Further proving that travel between Realms is possible. They're all occupying the same space, just different dimensions of that space. Seems to me that the Greek Realm Kratos originally came from is simply another Realm.
All I could think when Freya says “I know you’re a god but not of this realm.” Is that if it was a shared world that the land of Sparta is a realm on the same planet.
What if I tell you guys I don’t even know?
Damn, how did you get access to the internet? Can the norse fbi track you down?
You do know. You just have believe in your self than your inner powers would be reveal
Kratos_7-7-7-7 then I have no problem taking that as an answer cuz I have no idea either my dude
I'll give u a hint. The ancient worlds of mythology are built on a flat earth cosmology. So it makes more sense when u think of it that way .out space in there perspective is just water so cretos came by boat
Marshall J no it doesn’t boy.
so basically god of war franchise will be mario galaxy for adults.
No. It all takes place one the same planet. There are certainly other realms, but the Earth remains the same.
@@alexubel right i forget theres a few locked realms in the main game. i keep hoping for a dlc but nothung yet.
Haha shit that fits so well
Alexander Hernandez there will never be GOW4 DLC. That was confirmed. You can stop waiting for it lol
Mario Galaxy already is for adults.
Sun gods (my theory) all take a part in using the ability of the sun, I think that it’s all connected because instead of the sun getting destroyed or anything like that when Helios died, all that happened was the sun got blocked out. So maybe they like share it all as one and have access to it but if they die they lose access
For the conflict mentioned around 2:25 the answer is quite simple all effects of the gods only effect the territory that their pantheon holds power in, humans spread their gods pantheon territory by spreading their territory as well
Are you really this stupid? He says all the theologies are separated into different galaxies. They aren't on the same planet. Are you trolling or really this stupid?
What if ragnarok has a bunch of gods of war from all over!?!?
I doubt it, adding new pantheon would take away focus from norse mythology
eddy rapino I would love if there are some giants still alive and in GOW5 then you find them and lead them into battle against Thor and Odin.
Kaptain Kuba he could be right tho.. the original god of war 3 ending was supposed to be all the mythologies fighting each other and the birth of Christ
Maybe unlikely but this game is the game that opens tthe door to other pantheons! Whatever happen in GOW5.... will be amazeballs
and kratos is the strongest
Whenever i hear “the world” i hear ZA WARUDO!!!
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After going through all of Ragnarok it can be interpreted that while the different galaxies are the realms themselves it seems midgard, or earth, may be the one realm that connects them all. The mention of Oberon the Fairy king's land, Egypt, and other "lands" that one can travel too may be simply one traveling through the earth realm by land sea or air.
Freya explained it already though in the Tyr's temple cutscene before going to Alfheim. Midgard, Alfheim etc all share the same location but in different spaces. This should be the same for all the pantheons just in different locations
Damn, a god of war about the Aztec mythology, I would definitely buy that.
@Bruh Nation
But that’s easy. All Kratos can do is tame Cipactli, the Planet Eater, and all the 1,000 enemies in the Aztec Cosmo will stay put.
@Bruh Nation
Unless, it’s Cipactli that the true enemy; and it’s strength was enough to force Quetzalcoatl to seek help from other Gods across the Cosmos; and finds Kratos and beg him for assistance.
After all, Cipactli was a monster that made Ometeotl, the Supreme Deity & God of Duality, retreat back to its shield.
@@whathell6t It would be cool if Kratos would have to travel Mictlan, but that would be repetitive. Or at least that Quetzalcoatl would help Kratos in some way. Apart from that, I would want to see Huitzilopochtli and other powerful gods like Mictlantecuhtli, Tonatiuh, Xolotl, Tezcatlipoca, and Tlaloc.
TheGreen Tortoise
What are you talking about? Are you being serious?
@@es-rh8oo the supreme deity and God of duality, *omelette*
All the realm are connected by water I see what cory did Smart
Well not water, its just space but they are using a boat to get around
Kaptain Kuba so that explains why they haven’t heard of the Greek mythology cuz there trapped in there own world.. but sure as hell all the gods dying and causing all those nuclear type explosions the other mythologies wouldn’t feel the tremble if there deaths.. but I still don’t get if Kratos released hope did he release it to all other mythologies or just Greek?
KingCN M it’s kinda like how Charon has a boat and Kratos needed to get to Elysium but only way to get there was by boat.. which was the only way to travel there.. maybe it’s the same way for traveling to other realms
@@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr which the world tree is just a faster way to travel to other realms
KingCN M the world tree only applies to the Norse mythology
the funniest part of this is the idea that Faye saw one of like 3 gods left in a wrecked world and was like "yeah I'm totally screwing that"
also they probably still use north south east and west for conveniences sake when traveling the realm between realms
It's really just the multiverse theory. In the game itself you travel without moving. Shifting to different planes of existence within the "Norse Realm". In the older god of war you traveled to other planes of existence in the "Greek Realm". All of this was on Earth and each realm has unique ways to travel. Tyr it seems figured out how to travel to other realms easily. It's also clear that there have been other travelers from other realms and they bring relics and lore from their realm. The interesting thing is that the gods of each realm are localized in the areas we traditionally have come to think of them being in but it's also clear that what one realm does inside its own "bubble" doesn't normally effect all the other realms.
That explains how he ended up in the MK realm 😲
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🤔 get this man a beer
@CRISTIAN DAVID OTALORA PEÑA it would make sense, since they have collaborated before
Wasn’t canon
rudeMALITIA but who’s confirmed that?
Mimir tells Kratos that he figured out he's greek. How does he know what Greece is.
Because tyr traveled and mingled with other pantheons
@@thealien_ali3382 Tyr travelled and brought back a lot of stuff. besides Mimir is pretty well informed, it is possible that Mimir knows that another realm containing a place called Greece with its own respective Gods exists.
@@darkraven4455 well he knew about zeus and tyr did meet lot of people around different regions, then again the Greek pantheon's are the ones that are truly immortal, they can't die unless it's one of there own kills them, even then they seem to return back, like the marvel counterparts, Ares has been killed so many times only to come back, whereas the Norse mythology they just live for a very long time and Eventually die
The idea of Greece doesn’t make since in this context
Doesn’t greece exist on earth/midgard, even if Norse mythology is confirmed correct in this universe?
given that artefacts from other cultures can be found in Midgard, and that mimir is from Celtic pantheon and walked his way over tells me that the planet is like our own. however, there is definitely some weird spatial, temporal displacement when traveling between different areas of the world, and there are absolutely different dimensions that exist.
My guess is that the human realm, Earth, acts as a sort of "hub world" for the gods. Earth is smaller than the overall multiverse, so by putting pathways that lead to the godly realms on it, one has relatively little distance to travel in order to get from realm to realm. That's probably what Mimir meant when he said he "traveled north" to get to the realm of the Norse gods; he might have left the world of the Tuatha de Dannan, which is likely where he's from, for the British Isles since that's where they were worshiped in ancient times, went to the countries where the Norse gods were worshiped, then entered Asgard through pathways located there.
Well it's pretty easy to understand that there's a multiverse and Tyr found the way not only to travel across them, but also shared knowledge with other war gods, i.e. Tyr had to know Ares and other war gods.
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God of war from Japanese mythos would be lit
Anime version xD
I hope they don’t stop god of war after Norse mythology and they have Kratos and Loki go travel to the Japanese or Egyptian realm
@@calvingates6185 my body is ready for this
Just imagining Kratos having to battle Fudo Myoo sounds epic
It would be more on the Chinese side of things, I would imagine.
I always thought of it more along the multiverse theory. It's all the same earth, just in a different reality where different gods rose to power thus changing the outcome of each universe
From what I recall. I heard the way the devs explained it was that the Earth in the GoW series is the size of Jupiter (or perhaps even bigger) and that pantheons are spaced enough to coexist with their own territories being where their creation myths come into play for their earth sized chunk. Again because the planet they're on is far bigger than Earth several times over.
The dude in the clip of the speech you posted, he literally said people thought that kratos destroyed the world, but he destroyed greece, which was their perspective of what the world was. Basically that all the gods and people saw all of greece as "the world" because that's as far as the greek religion extends. Kratos sailed from greece another land where they had another religion. You're also forgetting about the fractured timeline. Jorgunmander has already met atreus, and tells mimir that hes familiar, because hes already experienced ragnorak. Jorgunmander has been thrown back in time, so it's possible that Zeus and jorgunmander were never in the same timeline, or even that the greek gods never went beyond the confines of greece. Also, Mimir doesn't say the GREEK pantheon. He said "I heard what happened at the pantheon" so the greek gods are on mount Olympus and the norse gods are in asgard. The titans could be jotun. Because odin and Zeus have very similar birth stories and the world being built by priomrdials. When kratos jumps off the world tree, hes in a mirrored world because when entering the temple afterwards, its upside down. It's possible that with the jotun magic, Tyr was able to be unseen by the gods of the lands he traveled to, and since the jotun were gone, only tyr could do it.
Yea i think he misunderstood what the dev was saying about the galaxies, it was simply a metaphor comparing it to the world, not literally saying they’re all galaxies lol.
I just hope they make another game where Kratos causes ragnarok to happen, then the third game is ragnarok and all the fun associated. Then maybe after that good ole Kratos can travel the “the desert land with lots of gods” and they hinted to in Tyrs vault
@@icrypticshad0w681 Except Kratos is going to die.
Or did you forget that part?
MrCrunchytime Death was never able to stop Kratos. He already escaped Hades multiple times, he can do the same with Helheim.
Truthfully I feel like kratos is either Odin himself due to the wooden doll of atreus and kratos, but the kratos one has an eye patch, and that Odin's ultimate fate is to be thrown into another time, to kill Zeus, to come all the way back to Scandinavia, to have atreus and cause ragnarok. OR kratos does and odin gets atreus since Odin in mythology, ADOPTED Loki. It's possible that kratos dies and Odin takes atreus, or that odin and kratos are in fact the same person, and after ragnarok, kratos and atreus live out their days as odin and Loki. Or Odin's fate is to die, because he finds out odin is kratos, and he chooses to be kratos, "the end of odin"
god of war: tournament of power, where he faces off against beerus
Game Kratos would lose.but it was black horse Kratos.he would rape Beerus untill death
boys station they are the same. But in the game he isn’t as strong for gameplay purpose. Kratos is as strong as needed, he is the pure form of strength.
@@braydenharris2812 actually game Kratos is multi universal. Comic Kratos is complex multiversal
boys station it’s literally a prequel comic homie. It takes place between 3 and 4. I have every issue, I’ve also played all the games, currently own them too. Hell even a quick google search “are the god of war comics and games connected” can tell you I’m right.
@@braydenharris2812 ok I'll try search it now
I've been thinking hard about the connections between Kratos and the Nordic world and yours it's definitely the one that makes the most sense. It only needs the confirmation of Cory to be true.
I think the panel shows Tyr learning to navigate the world by means of the stars lol that’s why he always arrives on a boat. It’s all the same world.
Hmm...also remember how Freya explains travelling between realms: that they occupy the same physical space, but are each nonetheless separate. Perhaps that's how it works for God of War as a whole. Mimir knows that Kratos is Greek, and also has knowledge of the Egyptian pantheon (hinted at in Tyr's Vault), which agrees with the idea of multiple 'galaxies'. Still, if the 9 realms of the Nordic Pantheon can be within the same physical space (i.e. Earth) and yet separate...it strikes me as possible that the same is true for the Nordic, Egyptian, Babylonian etc realms as well.
I want to read your comment but its just too much words
But Mimir himself claimed being from England.
@@kelnmiirkageoni1667 Scotland*
Next god of war
Kratos : "Who are you!?"
Stanger : " Watashi nama e wa....."
Then you know where they traveled 🤣
stanger?
can't wait Kratos vs Kyuubi
@@mg1721 did I in any way insinuate naruto is the only thing happening in japan?
English Is Not My First Language i mean although you didn’t it’s easy to see why he would come to that conclusion. Considering you used the name of the nine tailed fox that is exclusive to Naruto and only means 9 tails...
@@NocioKu Kyuubi is an ancient Japanese legendary monster. the name Kyuubi is not exclusive to Naruto. there is two legendary beast that Naruto took from the ancient Japanese myth first it's the one tail Shukaku or Ichibi and Kyuubi or Kurama they both from beginning are called Kyuubi and Ichibi. the other tailed beast's names are exclusive to Naruto like Gonbi, Hichibi and others is exclusive to Naruto. Understand now?
5:51 literally just look at the bottom panel. 10000 percent supports this fact that tyr traveled to different realms using this boat