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Do you want to see some legends and the havoc nerfed this season?!
no havoc nerf plz
get bangalore outta here
Nerf the nemesis, that gun been broken since it dropped and they havent touched it but just to make the recoil for hipfire a bit harder to hit
Nerf havoc, fix the cheating problem on all platforms, take horizon passive away, fix the dog juice sbmm, that’ll be a start.
Idk about havoc I'm good anyway
I worried any apex tubers just talks about the cheaters in pred lobbies. Like they just started there itself. Ignoring the largest portion of the player base. Like we don't matter at all. They are everywhere. Idk if at all they acknowledge cheaters in any rank is bad and be the voice for us non preds too.
At this point i assume EA itself is behind all this cheater situation. They themselves run these underground cheaters den and profit from them
I don’t give 2 shits about “smokes” I care about walling cheaters or hackers with aimbot.
these devs dont care about this game anymore. it's all about meeting the quota to release new content and pleasing the top 1%
The walling is the most out of control….
Thank you like who tf is crying about smoke with cheaters running rampant lmao
cant see shit meta wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt paired with the cant hear shit state of the game, gotta learn to play with echo location
🤣🤣 540hz eps (echo per second) 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So... Vantage???
Based
THIS RIGHT HERE!!!!!! Always fighting ppl and can’t hear footsteps sneak up behind you is WILD!
Pros need to start complaining about servers more… 5 years in and still playing on 20 tic servers
Server contract ends by next anniversary event. Upgraded servers will be coming then. So close 😩
Bold of u to assume EA wouldn't downgrade the servers or keep the same servers to fill their pockets
With haircut like that I don't think they'll do anything about it
The only reason the havoc is meta is the nuking of the smg weapons. It had no changes from season 19 to 20.
The Havoc did not become strong, They nerfed everything around it
Yeah man it sucks. It feels like havoc and hemlok (and flatline) are the most usable guns rn
This is a great point that I’m starting to see more. Havoc has been the same for years. What changed? R-9 and CAR got hard nerfed/ nuked. Prime R9 could hit you for 100+ before you ever got a shot off with a no turbo havoc. There’s nothing can out damage a havoc fast enough aside from another havoc, a Devo or maybe a flatline close range now.
@@diegon3045 Hemlok, Flatline, Havoc, Nemesis, prowler, wingman, and arguably mastiff and pk are the weapons people need to be using right now. If you aren't using any of these weapons, you're just playing at a disadvantage. In a fair fight with everyone hitting their shots, this guns will win the majority of the time against other weapons. The weapons you mentioned are basically the best ones in the game right now. Especially if you have a havoc with a turbo charger.
True but Havoc was always ridiculously strong tbf, anyone who used it before it became popular knows that. Its just sheeps copying what streamers use whom never go out of their comfort zone. If you ask them, remove all guns and leave og R99.
If smgs weren’t so dog shit the havoc wouldn’t be as much of an issue.
don't nerf the havoc, just buff other weapons
Same thoughts, havoc is just popular right now because they haven't touched it for a while and now people are complaining because its one of the only decent ARs out there atm. Not every gun needs a nerf, they need to buff smgs a bit and other ARs
All in to buff other guns but Havoc definitely needs a nerf. Its way too easy to use and in perfect circumstances you can 1 clip 3 people with 1 mag. But yeah, bring back sh&t like R301 to where it was. Atm you can miss 65-70% of you shots with Havoc and still clip someone, miss 20% of your R3 spray and you're out of luck. There is just 0 balance atm, some guns are just ass.
@pitifulanonymous2996bro yes the laser sights nerf was too much
The can’t see shit meta can be solved by giving bang smoke the same function as cat wall. Just make it so scans don’t go through it and the havoc nerf is easily doable without making the gun a bad option. Lower its damage by 1 and make the mags match the nemesis mag sizes.
I get that coding for bang smokes to make them non transparent for scans might be tricky so it’ll take time but nerfing the havoc shouldn’t be difficult and Respawn should be on EA’s ass about the trouble they’re having with cheaters. It should not take a AAA title that profits 9 digits yearly, over 5 years to get an anticheat that isn’t legitimately getting made fun of on social media by the cheaters.
bold of u to assume that bang smokes wont be extremely popular choice with immunity to scans, like come on, surely u can see that the whole point of smokes was to be not seen by enemies.........ah the irony of these words
@@veqad2242 people don’t like smokes because they’re being abused by scans and hound ult. Which was the entire controversy behind digital threats. Take away the ability to scan through bang smoke and I guarantee you see a change in comp legend picks and high tier ranked picks because people won’t be pairing her with hound to get free shots onto people who can’t see the attacking team.
@@itswhatDEXTER u are literally coping hard on this, let me ask u this, what is the purpose of smokes? to make enemies not see u, u can use smokes for offensive purposes due to scans and BH ultis but that doesnt mean that ppl doesnt use smokes to hide their positions. like come on, u cant seriously expect that the popularity of smoke meta goes away when u cant scan. bangalore didnt get any less popular when digis went away, it didnt go away when smokes got a nerf and just an extra point to the case, bloodhounds became the best combo with smoke tactics and adding the immunity thing to smokes, will only make bloodhounds little worse for utility. thats it. please come to ur senses.
I think scans going through visual clutter is good for the game, I don't think the visual clutter should be a get out of jail free card. I think the blood ult should have less far of a vision or something to keep it from being the only character that is allowed to do anything in these situations, maybe even buff the scanned time and seer scanned time if you want to go the route of having a powerful counter to the visual clutter.
The problem with nerfing the can't see shit meta is that you would have to nerf like 5 legends hard. Bang is the most prominent, caustic is also a major cause of visual clutter with shooting gas on his q's and his ult, catalyst wall is what made the term can't see shit meta, Conduit ult creates visual problems, maggie and fuse q's and ults do the same, there is so much I think it is good to have characters that can counter the visual clutter, and without these characters you are probably watching a more boring and frustrating game of everyone camping behind rampart walls or something rather than the fast paced action of octane or something they think they will get by getting rid of the meta.
Screw Bangalore. Conduit tactical DOES NOT BELONG IN APEX. At least make it delay charge. Instant shielding an enemy mid-fight is so ridiculous. She alone changes the entire dynamic of team fights even in multi-team standoffs. No other Legend has that capability without repercussion. NONE!
I saw a YT short from Pirate Software before about breaking metas. And I kinda agree more on his expert opinion: "The way that you remove metas is you take the stuff that's falling behind that's not in meta, and you buff it. You don't take the things that are working and you nerf the s**t out of them. Doesn't work that way. The moment you do that, you've created a worse meta. You've created a toxic meta, because people are upset and now they have to look for something that actually works. It's a bad direction in terms of development."
I live in Japan and had to stop playing the game, its literally every game several cheaters, unplayable.
They cheat alot.
Apex removes Digi
Pros: I can’t see shit, WTF devs.
At this point there the reason the meta is trash.🤦
Removing digi scope didn't lower bang pick rate but bang pick rate has increased regardless, this proves pros don't know what they are asking for and how the comp works. I personally say some of them are simply cry babies blaming something in game for their lack of skill or understanding of the game
and you do...
Lol that was for comp not the rest of the game. The pick rate has absolutely nothing to do with comp. This comment makes no sense.
@toasty00000 I can't speak for op, but I don't play this game because of the pros. I play this game to have fun with my friends, as I would argue a vast majory of the player base is as well, with 10% of the player base being pros and people who only play apex and nothing else.
The pros want to turn this into a lame ass br and I'm completely against it.
@@Silverlined_69 casuals are the problem with this game. This is a comp game.
@@toasty00000 90% i never use digi scope, I'm a bang main and I'm good without it. I agree I'm not good like pros but if in the context of 'many pros pick bang and use digi scope' to gain advantage was not good statement
So yeah i do
Here’s the thing about “meta” it’ll never be healthy. No matter what legend was in the meta pros and viewers complained because of the simple fact that it is annoying to fight a meta comp no matter who or what legend that is.
When you’re fighting the same abilities over and over it’s annoying. Or if you feel like you lost because of an ability it’s annoying.
The solution tho shouldn’t be to nerf meta legends to the ground to the point where no one plays them like seer. They should try and make all legends very useful and a considerable option so that legend pickrates are as diverse as possible. However in this game whatever legends pro play get nerfed to the ground, then another legend takes the nerfed legends place in meta and then the new legend gets nerfed to the ground. Endless stupid cycle, I pray pros never start playing my legend cs I know she’ll be nerfed for no reason
Some legends do need more nerfs, but it’s also true that so many legends desperately need buffs. It’d be epic to see ALL the legends be highly viable in one form or another in the highest tier lobbies.
The “can’t see shit” meta, lmao
This game needs to start banning cheaters.
I don't care about smokes I care about the fifteen different effects going off when kill someone in mixtape, I care about the blinding triple take, I care about the dust that gets everywhere and you cant see shit for 2 seconds, I care about the blurriness from the ring, hell I care about aim punch (when you get headshot or your shields cracked your camera bounces up and down)
Aim punch just happens when you take health damage, it's far worse than only when being headshot or shields cracked. I've been complaining about it for years
lmao when youre getting shot and your camera is getting thrashed as if you were in a 1v1 with mike tyson 😂
The amount of weapon and legend changes need to happen like r99 recoil buff, spitfire, havoc, mastiff nerf and horizon nerf
and give fuse one knuckle cluster
Mastiff spitfire and r99 don’t need changes
They have to Nerf or remove aim smoothing
And probably get better at detecting like chrono Zen strike packs. Most of the player base will still play the game. They just have to adapt to it. Sure people might cry about it, but oh well
R99 dominated for a few seasons and you still wanna recoil buff after they had every right to nerf it? 😂🤡
Nah you ass at the game homie😂 none of that needs to be nerfed
They should fix the players that laser from mid map with ease with no recoil and now when you play very good they think that you cheat. Hackers are ruining this dam game!!
I also will add that I’m furious I still haven’t gotten my ranked rewards from, split 1 from season 20 in apex legends, you would think with the feedback respawn received were they costed a lot of the player bases progress from split 1 that they would have fixed the problem and gave everyone there ranked rewards from split1.
one thing not talked about is their poor TOS team and ban review team.
This whole season is bugged tf out. Nothing like being in a Ranked match, and getting a " out of sync with server " message and catching a damn abandonment penalty because these Devs can't figure their fucking shit out or update their damn servers
I swear I remember a very specific item you used to be able to be to find and use to counter this whole "can't see shit" meta.... But they wanted to get rid of it 😂
The havoc doesn’t need a nerf the smgs need a buff the only thing changed about the havoc is the recoil change and the other things that have changed is smgs being nerfed to the ground the havoc is fine it’s the bi product of killing the smgs
The amount of times I’ve been killed by a cheater and they using havoc is ridiculous
Let’s just face the reality of things. Us casual players literally do not have any say or any influence. Not even the report menu works. It’s just a placebo effect. Unless you’re cheating in apex good luck trying to enjoy this game.
Let's be real here the average person isnt running into 19 other teams running bangalore, bloodhound, catalyst/conduit every match so i guess we got that going for us
I am ok with weapons that are too potent being nerfed.
BUT this current situation with the Havoc is not a product of the gun creeping in power. It’s a product of them nerfing other weapons.
The Havoc is strong but it’s not easier to use than the other weapons, and its most powerful state is contingent on a gold hop up.
Honestly pros ask for something to be changed only when it benefits or pisses them off take this as an example the gold knock down when you use to be able to self res fun fact the reason it was changed because a pro team got pissed that a guy they knocked and didn't kill got back up and killed their team and they lost the round in the agls if I'm not mistaken but the point is that the item in question took literally 2 f**cking decades to use and was about as loud as the whole lobby shooting at each other like at that point it isn't on the item it's on you for making a mistake
what about the can't hear shit issues? are they gonna fix that? Nope they'll find a way to make it worse LOL
Some have issues, some don't. How to fix that.
I understand people wanting transparency on the cheater situation, but the reason they don't share anything on it, is in fact to combat them.
Bangalore will never not be meta her kit is just way to perfect for a anchor player not only does she get movement and smokes but she has a damage ability that can be used to force people to move, just the perfect character for a MnK player to use to fight controllers while simultaneously helping the controllers on their own team with cover fire
So THIS IS THE MAN THE NERFED MY BANG
I think they need to stop nerf'ing guns, when was the last they buffed one?
They nerf a gun > players switch to a new gun > they nerf that gun > players switch to a new gun
The cycle will continue until every gun is shit and it takes 2 purple mags to down someone
ARs were strong, they nerf them, so SMGs became strong, and they nerfed them! JUST BUFF THE SHOTGUNS IF YOU WANT US TO USE THEM
The havoc didnt suddenly become strong out of nowhere, everything arund it just got nerfed to the ground, suggest buff some other guns so the meta isn't so one sided, apex already has one of the highest ttk of any fps game
How about get rid of jump towers, so we actually see a Valk again
You know what's the most frustrating thing about Apex? Servers and Wall Hacks
Pros been complaining about AA so long that over half the mnk pros got pushed out. They havnt changed that.
I think taking away bangs smoke as a whole would be pretty dumb, I think instead they should add digi back and those who have bang on their team can use it,
Or she has a perk that gives her team the option to see through smoke via glasses (like vantages glasses things for example). She can even have a voiceline for it “you got digi glasses, now you can see through my smoke” or something like that 😭
Basically how it would work is you can only use the digi when shooting through her smoke but u can’t see people behind smoke that’s made by an opposing team, this way it’ll be balanced. When not aiming digi won’t pop up
Can Apex make a change in the future like a care package carrying 3 red weapons in total
And doing that like the apex legends legends class
So my idea immediately you drop. 2 care package will spawn and will carry purple random loot like optics Phoenix kit and armor but the color will be purple and can be in 3 slot only
In round 1 immediately spawn 3 care package 1 will carry all gold weapons on 3 slot
Another one will carry all gold gear like armor knockdown backpack and gold helmet
The final one ís a care package that will level up their will be 2 in each slot of 3 like a triangle shape but one of the 2 care package will only have 2 of the 3 type spawn in
For round 2 spawn 2 care package around round 2 ring
1st one spawn all random red weapons but only can carry 3 in a care package
The 2nd one spawn in a care package with spawn red armor can only carry 3 in a care package
The 3rd one will be 3 red guns but all the same type like shotguns snipers the bow and lmg but their can be one of 3 same gun in carry package can carry 3 of the same weapons
But only 2 care package will Spawn in round 2 so and one could not spawn in with a class until the next match
On round 3 this one tricky Spawn 2 care package one is unvalted red weapons the blade one and the throw able knife and one random red gear like a weapon or armor or one of the same item in that care package
The 2nd one spawn a care package spawn one red armor one red gun and a Melee weapon
Round 4 bring care package one is random in the round 2 and 3 zone
While playing pubs today I got put in a match with a Bloodhound who was using both Bloodhound AND Lifeline’s abilities. I’ve seen some crazy cheats before but never that. Reported him and quit the match, I refuse to support cheater team mates! Has anyone else seen a hack like that before?
**EDIT**
I have the reply saved, is there a way to send it to the devs so they can ban the player?
Crazy how r5 is so clean looking
the answer i want is : when they will update old prestige skins with sky dives trails? Its simple but no one ask to devs
I feel like they should nerf guns by buffing others, everything has been nerfed so much over the years that nerfing more guns makes fighting more annoying and fights take annoyingly long nowadays.
I also think that if fights were finished more quickly, it would solve the issue of getting 5th parties and even more in almost every fight I take in ranked.
Havoc is hard because without the turbo, it's pretty balanced due to the charge up time.
If they remove the turbo, it'll be mid again.
Man this is exactly why i'm slowly backing away from the apex scene, like cmon man everybody gotta complain about everything and then wonders why people complain about the pros and shit cus they be making stupid asks for shit how about more outrage about the Loot pool, audio issues and matchmaking and shut up about the guns and legends being supposedly too strong when they arent.
Nah but Conduit/Rev was outrageous though lmaooo. Still lowkey is.
@@mathiaschristensen1194 look I've played in diamond and up lobbies since they fucked the matchmaking and kept putting me in these lobbies even when I was in gold in ranked, it's annoying sure but it's not broken. There are many counters to both of these legends the pros just like to complain for no reason.
@@CursedGaming77 Please do enlighten me on these supposed counters LMAO.
@@mathiaschristensen1194 anybody can counter anybody as long as the right people are playing the right characters it's called adapting to the situation. Lifeline Newcastle teams basically counter everyone cuz fast res beats extra shields throw wattson on a newcastle lifeline team and you're golden. Please use your brain if you can't think up counters for characters you're lacking brain cells.
@@CursedGaming77 Bro Im higher rank than you, but go off 😂
Ill keep saying it till it happens( probably never will happen, realistically):
They need specs specifically tailored to comp and specs for casual/normal player experience. As in, Buffs and nerfs to weapons/legends only for comp and the same buffs/nerfs not applied to the regular game.
An example of this that could make comp more entertaining, have S7 Horizon specs only for comp. She was absolutely broken and would stirr up the meta.
But keep horizon( in her current state) as she is for normal lobbies. Really good players can already destroy pub lobbies with horizon.
FIX CHEATING FIRST
Fix the audioooo, I'm sick of getting rolled because a full squad sneaks up on me unintentionally
As far as bangalore goes it's a dubble edged ability cause bangalore can't see through the smoke so it's not like it helps her
It's not for combat it's for recovery and rotating
Newcastle is so strong, I’ll never understand why they didn’t just leave Gibby in the state he was in.
New castles not that strong lol he’s only strong if you dont know what youre doing or youre playing against an insane player using him
I find it ironic that everyone is complaining about the can't see crap meta, which was caused by the communities complaint's over the scan meta. 😂
Watched Mande last night get absolutely fucked on by a rage hacker. They didn’t get banned, they won the game, killed him twice with 90% hs across the map. This game is fucked
DONT NERF THE HAVOC RESPAWN
Could also care less about the havoc buff SMGs to compete
I wouldn't mind the bang nerfs as much if they would give her some power elsewhere but it feels like they have shaved power everywhere and then kept hitting her smokes. I am not saying she is a dead legend because obviously she isn't its just hard to be excited to play a legend after their 4th consecutive nerf in a few seasons. If they were to nerf while buffing elsewhere I wouldn't be as negative on her.
Don't nerf the havoc, buff the smgs or bring back barrel stabilizers for them.
Better yet, let us choose between reduced recoil or hipfire spread.
Thank God you aren't balancing the game. Instead of nerfing op guns buff things to be more op is smooth brain take
@@Ionreallysleep Look, all they've done recently with patches is nerf or nothing.
@@ShadowMark3_ they havnt just been nerfing random things it's been shit that needed nerfs
They listen to pros for the same reason we watch em play. They know what they are doing and know what they are saying.
Your faith in people, well rage quitting man-child people is astounding.
I would just give bang one smoke instead of 2 so that it’s less visual clutter
Never cook again
@@shalindelta7 But I’ll starve
@@FrostyTrix24 haha that's a good one 👍
The only way to combat cheaters is take the game off peoples pc and make it only playable through cloud gaming. Until that happens its jover.
Why would people advocate for nerfing the havoc???? Of all the broken over powered dishonorable strats triple stacks pull in ranked, what do you mean you want an over the top strong ar nerfed? What kind of bs is that? Hell no. Keep it strong. It’s a little harder to control than the other ars but extremely rewarding. It should stay where it is.
Apex likes to listen to streamers and rip people off
Streamers get paid from apex so they don’t mind wasting extra money
Us average folk don’t stand a chance out there ya hear?
Pretty simple. Casuals get nothing, pros get everything. Fix the damn audio,. Fix the cheaters. Everything else takes a back seat until.
Ngl L take with the gutting character thing. I’m pretty sure he means they don’t wanna change her kit like taking away smoke ie gutting her
Dev: Why is Bangalore played so much?
Players: Because smoke nerfs aim assist.
Devs: Ahh OK, we'll nerf Bangalore some more then.
Leave the havoc alone lmao
Why not buff the other ARs to fall in line with the effectiveness of the Havic rather than nerf it? How long was there a call for nerfs to smgs and now we’ve gotten those nerfed into the ground compared to their usefulness just a few seasons ago. Let’s just make all weapons strong instead of picking on the one gun that’s seeming to shine over all the rest at the moment
The problem is they keep nerfing one weapon after the next. Hemlock then 301 was nerfed. After the havoc gets nerfed, I'm sure the flat will be next.
ran into 2 soft aimbotters and 3 rage hacking cheaters in plat lobbies didnt get resed checked their accs all below 100 most below 50 all in d4 shooting through walls while in low plat lobbies looks like the cancer is spreading downwards. rip audio also took a major hit this season
They don’t listen to pros about all the Bullshit cheating
Horizon been on top for like 13 seasons now 💀 can she be the next seer please
They could just remove most of the visual clutter from the game without touching any of the legends....
Couldn’t agree more Horizon got tanked to the ground
Still baffles me apex pros think being required to land all your shots when your only allowed 15 bullets per mag as opposed to a fast ttk rewarding good hand eye cordination like ever other successful shooter is crazy to me
Also listening to the pro players is the fastest way to kill a game entirely you build for the majority not minority unless you want to hemorrhage money.
I knew this was gonna come eventually. I told my brother back in season 17 that the havoc was slept on. It’s a BEAM.
It's only because they have nerfed everything else into the ground, never buffing any other guns.... It's great because it's remained untouched. Now it gets nerf nothing gets buffed and we have even longer ttks, with legends that give themselves or teammates over shields...
Next will be the flatline if they nerf the havoc
@@silent1759 sadly that's it in it's nerfed state.... I miss the hip fire the flatline had like season 10ish 😐
@@mst1k976 the havoc is its nerfed state currently. I guess ppl forgot how crazy it was when they reduced the horizontal recoil back then. It was a true beam back then. But all ppl wanna do is complain and then complain more when devs do exactly what they asked
They need to bring the select fire back to it
Bring back the Digi-Threat
I know this is going to sound like promoting my own content and whatnot, but I believe I have a good solution to the issues around Bangalore/Bloodhound that I will be exploring in a video I’m making about the meta changes I would make to Apex in season 22. It should be up in 2 weeks or so if anyone is interested.
Pro players go anti cheat devs on standby in their games now. For us still the same😅
Jmeyels what the 2:08 is going on here.
U remember old rev No one played him because he was bad after rework we got people who just play rev because he is op they can delete theyr game
Havoc nerf bruh y’all just complain that you got killed by it. Stop complaining it or get out the game
🌹At this point, UNNERF every meta character to make it fair, I WANT MY SEER BACK TO HIS PRIME💙🌹
Man says we don't wanna gut these characters yet they constantly fuckin nuking Revenant into the ground every second a update is on the horizon. They gave Rev a complete rework only to nerf him to dirt within the same season and then the very next season after..
They nerfed cat like 3 seasons in a row and now the wall only lasts like 10 seconds and feels like it's half the original length.
Who is complaining about Bangalore smoke? Smoke grenades are in every FPS ever made.
Tell me you don’t play apex without telling me you don’t play apex
@@BigGnastytell me you don't play shooter without telling me you don't play shooters.
@@lienomzekon4763 multi pred/master, been playing FPS on PC since COD2 was doing community hosted online servers before the Xbox 360 even came out. I can’t think of a single game where smoke grenades are used heavy besides maybe battlefield or CS. Only in apex are smokes so busted that at pro level it’s use or get dumpstered.
Nerf smoke just aswell nerf caustic gas lifeline heal drone or octane stim
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@@BigGnastyYou forgot valorent. also trying to balance a game is like trying to balance real life, your not gonna stop people from using guns just because you prefer a sword.
can't see, can't hear, can't play, and can't speak because u won't be heard.
bang was under utilized for years and now we wanna complain about her lol
Underutilized? She was unplayable in a seer meta because he hard counters her. Y’all just say shit without understanding the context because you don’t watch comp.
@@ricepatty5551 shiv was the only pro to use her in the first 5 years of the game, shes just recently entered comp like within the last year lol
@@ron3940 shiv didn’t even use her throughout his entire career in apex, he effectively dropped her as soon as seer meta began to pick up.
I was exaggerating though, pre seer meta she was fine, but BH was still relevant and he also hard countered her. There’s more context to bang being “mediocre” in comp, she was never bad as a legend, the environment she was in was constantly hostile towards her. If you read what people used to say all those years ago about bang, people knew she would be strong if scan meta were to go away.
@@ricepatty5551 he dropped her on being pressed by his tm8s to do so
@@lindseydsilva5938 *and they were underperforming, because bang gets absolutely destroyed by seer and no other reason.
Again, never a bad legend. Meta shifts do this to characters, most legends are fairly strong. Bang in a meta with no seer or BH would have *always* been as strong as she is now, you can even see in S1/0 comp before BH scans worked properly that Bang was spammed on every team.
hemlock needs nerfed...asap
nah get rid of the stupid burst meta
Now I see why the game looks the way it does. All these guys look like they're missing testosterone. I'm still pissed off that they nerfed Bangalore. There was no need for that, like you said it's just smoke. These guys don't know what they're doing with this game. And it's sad because Apex used to be such a great game.
Xdefiant is so much more fun. Been a pretty good player on apex, but game just got boring. Hackers also ruined it.
There is only one way to get a company like ea to listen stop playing dont spend money they dont care because people keep playing and if people are playing they are buying boycot play some fun games for a while it always gets better when people start to let it die!
Can't stand Bangalore on my team. As soon as the fight starts you can't see anything.
And you already know they are running away lol
Nerf controller!!! “Bang meta introduces itself”
Nerf the can’t see shit meta!! no digis!!!!!
“Controller meta returns once again”
Bring smoke meta back!!!!!
I don’t know about today because I don’t really care about it too much because I lost passion for the game
But back in the day, never listen to the pros maybe once every 369 months sure but everything else now remember that because I would often have the same opinions as pros and the complete opposite would happened/went with what the casual community wanted
I’m looking forward to XDefiant,I’m moving away from Apex Legends I can’t stand the state of this game, I work over 10 hours a day and close at work and don’t get home to around 2 to 3 am and it doesn’t matter if I play ranked or Pubs or mixtape playlist this game is not enjoyable it feels like I’m working another 10 plus hours in apex legends and into something changes I don’t plan on returning to Apex Legends anytime soon, 20 tick rate servers, no audio, horrible solo queue experience in pubs and Ranked,cheaters, 6mans and 9mans and next gen apex legends has been broken for over two months 120 fps isn’t consistent, micro stuttering, fps drops and console players abusing .6 aim assist instead of switching over to the next gen update, console apex is at its worst state it’s ever been in and imo it seems like respawn only cares about cosmetics and collecting events, when was the last time we had a quality of life changes,fixes to this game it seems like we take 10 steps forward and 10 steps back with Apex Legends, and if one thing is fixed, there’s multiple new bugs and issues that need fixed and I’m feed up with the pros always gripping to get legends or weapons nerfed I’m glad to see the havoc is meta again this game gets very repetitive when we stick to the same legends, weapon Metas, I hope respawn can make this game enjoyable again because to me lately it seems like it’s heading towards a decline.
I really hate the word meta it sounds dumb
s21 wingman nerf T-T
Thordan was innocent by the way
They gutted bang and she’s still powerful. Ppl complain too much
These things are irrelevant. 80% are use cheats anyway. They can see you through walls across the map. Fix the cheating problem and the game will be fine
honestly i dont care about the meta i give a crap about GAMBLING IN A NON 18+ GAME
It’d be nice if they found a way to add tap strafe to console/roller so everyone could have the same amount of fun using movement. Shouldn’t have to buy 3k pc for one config.
3k is a crazy exaggeration but i get what ur saying
Then they can get rid of aim assist
They would need to nerf Aa than, as a controller player it would be WAY stupid if you could get .6 with tapstrafing
I do agree though
TRUEEEEEE@@Ta11ys
Tbh lurch on roller wont fix the gap between both input types, what would fix it would to turn down the AA, and THEN give roller nice perks such as better air control or better motion shifts.
Here me out. Since we all are tired the bang smoke how about we take it out we don't stop there at every end game how about instead of one winner the final three teams wins and we have out congratulations badges because apex we are making it a safe space for every one
Lmao that's been in the game since day 1. AA is the biggest participation trophy in the game. Roller players without AA are straight dog water.