Come Follow Me - Alma 32-35: Knowing or Believing?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- An in-depth study of Alma 32-35, recounting the preaching of Alma and Amulek to the Zoramite poor. This lesson focuses on the difference between compulsion and choice, humility, knowledge vs. faith, the experiment on the word, religious epistemology, testimony vs. taste, reversing the Fall, planting the seed, God's mercy because of His Son, the "great question," math or love, sufficient grace, and more. Join Jared Halverson for your weekly Come Follow Me study of the Book of Mormon!
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I have been a member for 45+ years now. I just want you to "know" that because of this lesson I now have "faith/belief" that the Book of Mormon is true, and that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is Christ's Church upon the Earth at this time and more. Being able to truly understand the difference between "faith/belief" and "knowledge" is such an incredible blessing. I now will bear my testimony, "I have chosen to believe ......". I hope I have interpreted your words correctly. May God bless you in all your do in His behalf; we love and support you and your family.
I'll be honest, I related to your student who struggled with where to begin. I have to wrestle to read the scriptures, pray, go to church or even the temple. I know that when I do these things, I feel better. But there is a strong force keeping me (and probably many) from all of the fruits of the gospel. I am so grateful to people like you who share their knowledge that they have learned and studied with me. It gives me so much momentum to keep trying. Thank you for your time sharing your thoughts and teaching people like me who otherwise might get noting out of these chapters but a few, "oh, that's cool" rather than, "Wow, I can change and be who Christ wants me to be by becoming humble and meek in spirit. I can follow Christ because there is real hope. God can truly forgive me because Jesus made it possible for him to do so."
So many lessons were taught to me that I knew, but maybe never believed/had faith in. Especially that God is able to be merciful because the demands of justice have been met by Jesus Christ infinitely and eternally. It dawned on me about how powerful a message this really is. Not only did Jesus come, he fulfilled what he was designed to do. He did it!! And how blessed are we that we can benefit from his sacrifice.
Thanks, again! I look forward to keep learning from you!
Brother Jared, thank you. I am in my fifth year with you and your teaching has carried me through a spiritual rebirth. Your teaching enabled me to move from stoney ground to fertile nourished soil that produced the real fruit of The Tree of Life - and that fruit truly is delicious. Thank you so much.
AMEN!!!
I just watched another CZcams video today from a more secular individual and they gave an excellent piece of advice: “If you want to have an allegiance to truth, you have to trade in the comfort of constant certainty.” People on social media always seem so certain about things and we start to doubt and question and we don’t like that discomfort so we pick a side and favor anything that supports that side and reject anything that goes against it. In that arena, I prefer to sit with the discomfort than to pick sides. But in my spiritual life, I don’t like sitting with the discomfort at all. I want to know. Sometimes the Spirit reassures me and sometimes He doesn’t, but I’m glad to know that this gives me opportunity to exercise faith.
This video deserves a million likes
I echo that I am so grateful to have a better understanding of faith/belief & knowledge. I will never be able to adequately express how grateful I am for the opportunity to study the gospel with you! Your knowledge, understanding, and great teaching talents are incredible. Thank you!
As I listened to the lesson and read and meditated on the mentioned scriptures, an image of the tree of life formed in my mind, where everything is centered on Christ: the seed, the tree, and the very fruit, which represents His delightful love and the light of knowledge. I can taste this love and light each day through my daily attention to the word, living in a land of abundance and exploration, much like the faith in Christ.
It brings me great peace and liberation to know that my Heavenly Father, though just, is full of love and mercy through the boundless love of Christ's atonement. This great principle of faith, illuminated by the light of His teachings, can be applied to all areas of my life.
I absolutely love all the comments from the people who have struggled for years and are coming to know Christ and truths in the Book of Mormon through your scripture study classes! At times they have been way too long for me but I am sure enjoying them now. I'm going to stick with you through this year's study. I appreciate all of the work that you go to and I appreciate your very strong testimony. One thing that strikes me each week is that you and your testimony remain rock solid even in the middle of all your study of the opposing camps. Thank you so much.
I have never thought about knowledge vs faith in this way and it's mind blowing... it makes SO much sense! Thank you for sharing!
As I completed this section with your teachings I wept for joy. Never did I understand His mercies for me. I am SO grateful.
Thank you so much for all your hard work and explanations you give helping me to understand the meaning of scriptures better. I save all your podcasts and oft send them to those who have trouble learning it are converts to give them these blessed teachings! You and your family are a blessing to so many around the world. ❤
My favorite word is The word Believe. I have this word all over my house, and I have a ring with this word.
I understand what you are trying to teach. Thank you 🙏
Omg...I just realized something. I literally prayed a few nights ago about how my garden has been taken over by a noxious weed and how pitiful my fruit bearing trees have produced few to no fruit. I really wanted to more self sufficient this year as far as produced. I was quite literally pulling out those stupid weeds when it hit me while listening to this. 😅Sheesh. Not only has this lesson proven to be a answer to my prayers both spiritually but physically as well. I don't know how to get rid of these weeds that are invading my strawberries but at least I have a spiritually answer to my prayers. Thanks! 😂❤
Sorry about your lovely garden. Our village secretary hired people tear up my herb garden because to them mint, tarragon, mustard and other herbs 🌿 look like weeds, leaving only 6 dandelions along the edge. Burned a broken tree branch in the little garden and left a beer bottle on the charred wood 🪵. Then she wanted to charge me after hiring my lawn mowing company that just moved a few days before to charge me $195 and threatened to take away my property in court. Her lawyer didn't agree with her.
We get to be real and trust in faith and the faithful some times more than other times.
Maybe, if we don't let the weeds go to seed, they won't fill our gardens again.
OMGoodness I love that! The physical manifestations, which I think are essential blessings that God in His genius provides
@@AnnieBangkok I still hate those weeds but I am grateful for the lesson. 😮💨
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@@amberpelton5679 I know!!! Me too! They just aren’t fair, those evil little guys.
Loved this Lesson! Thanks so much! It made me realise the mercy of God in being able to learn for ourselves through faith and that the process of learning by faith bears fruit that wouldn't exist if we were just given all knowledge. We see from Alma's own experience how being given the knowledge without exercising his own faith led to so much guilt and turmoil however when he exercised his faith to try and call on the Savior his experiment brought the sweetest fruit. Love that!
I learned today that I know that God loves me because of the tender mercies He has given me in the past. I have faith and hope that these tender mercies will continue as long as I keep the commandments and serve Him with all my heart.
Wow!,this lesson stands in might along with ' The Awful Arithmatic of the Atonement.
Magnificent.Thank you so much.
Thanks for calling us your friends.
This is one of my favorites, and a must to listen to twice! Thank you so much for continuing to teach and lift us!❤🙏🙏
Up until last week, and for several years, I was a Sunday School teacher for the kids fresh out of Primary. Loved it. I listened to most all the CZcams channels that discussed the lessons and gleaned snippets from each…a fresh perspective, a new approach to familiar material all of which I am deeply grateful. However, I rarely wrote down my deeper dive takeaways, then sent them off to others who, like me, really appreciate more meaty material, followed by an enthusiastic pitch to listen to Unshaken and Brother Halverson. I’m very grateful for the Spirits nudge to not only listen but also commit to paper my thoughts, personal aha’s followed with ‘and thus I see’ as my belief deepens and my testimony of Gods goodness and grace is underlined, again and again. So, I thank you, especially for adding the extended versions. Thank you for the feast the Spirit offered you and the full to overflowing table at which I pull up a chair and feast, a fork in each hand. Following your reference to Elizabeth Barrett Brownings poem that began’ Earth is crammed with Heaven…’ another poem came to mind. I don’t know the author
‘ God spoke to me today in the garden and I, who was waiting on words, almost missed the conversation.’
Thank you for your faith, the work these segments reveal and your sensitivity to the Spirit. Carry on.
So much value in this lesson! Thank you, Brother Jared❤
I understand your point, and I also remember what Elder Ballard said in April 2023 Conference, "Often in our testimony meetings on fast Sundays, we hear the phrases “I am thankful” and “I love” more than we hear the phrases “I know” and “I believe.”
I invite you to bear your testimony of Jesus Christ more often. Bear testimony of what you know and believe and what you feel, not just of what you are thankful for." Knowing, believing, and how we feel are all good things to do as we bear testimony.
Oh this was explained so well. I so appreciate how you broke this into such understandable language. I’m a gardener so I get the planting but the faith vs knowledge was very helpful. I used Alma 32 to determine if my Husband was the right man for me. 😊 that may not make sense but it worked for me.
If I believe enough to move forward; act in faith, afterward I know of a certainty. Or at least this has been my experience. I love this lesson! I used the words "help me in my unbelief" and changed them to "help me in my inability to forgive" because I wanted to receive my endowments and now I am my Dad's caretaker. I know the Lord will help us but first I just believed he would and acted on that belief.
Thank you so much for this wonderful video. I enjoy your insight on scripture. ❤
I have been studying the scriptures with you almost since you started this podcast/you-tube video series, and I have to say that this week's lesson has expanded my faith and belief in Jesus Christ and His atoning sacrifice like no other lesson you have taught from the scriptures so far. Thank you, Jared for all your personal preparation and allowing the Holy Spirit to work through you and speak directly to my heart and soul. You are a trusted friend that I have yet to meet in mortality. I feel like you will receive many hugs in the life hereafter from all whom you have touched by this great service you have been providing. I express to you my sincere gratitude and to your family, for your sacrifice of time and effort as you share your talents. May you be richly blessed!
Wow. Phenomenal lesson. I couldn’t be more grateful for the Book of Mormon and how it teaches of Christ, or for your willingness to create and share these lessons with us.
Thank you so much, I loved it all but today Alma 41 resonating with me the most!
I would not pursue knowledge if I did not believe I could be taught and learn. Belief comes first and must continue.
I so enjoy the video this week and I watch the older ones also
I enjoy your classes and everything you give us.
Happy that you have more time with family members and other things that you are wanting to do.
Thank you always, Brother Jared Halverson ❤️ 💙 🙏 34:32
I just want to say that when someone witnesses in testimony meeting they know Jesus is the Christ the Spirit testifies to my soul it is true. Testimony can be powerful. Testimony can help other people’s testimony grow. I think faith is very important. Once the Spirit has witnessed to my soul something is true, I still need to exercise my faith in so many ways. It takes faith to trudge on in this crazy world. It takes faith to continue reading my scriptures each day, to pray each day, go to church each week. As I exercise my faith my testimony grows stronger and stronger. The Lord loves effort and as we put forth that effort and humble ourselves before God he wants to witness to us the truths of the gospel and he will! It is beautiful!
I feel sad if people may feel ashamed of saying “I know Jesus is the Christ” when the Spirit was made something known to them. I want people to say “ I know Jesus is the Christ “ when they have a testimony they received from the Holy Spirit. This strengthens my testimony! This helps me in my life.
I think faith and knowledge go hand in hand.
Thank you for your teachings brother Halverson
A m a z I n g!!!!! These insights and inspirations are beautifulest if is your words or the spirit so strong to understand, to hear, to learn and listening such messages is incredibly awakening spiritual prompting. Thank you
Looking forward to the extended lesson on Sunday 😊 This was wonderful
A powerful breakdown of Alma 32 that broadened my understanding of faith, my potential, and God's love.
This is such a great lession, Br. Halverson ! I haven´t seen it in this revolution stage : FAITH is superior than knowledge. THAT IT ! I was searching and thinking about- because even I recall deep spitituell experiences FAITH keeps me going and doing and still growing. Knowledge is a growing as much as faith grows parallel- in THIS world we can NOT seperat this truths- THEY are coworkers- I hope I got it right. THANKS!
My I recommend a book called Putting on Christ. A great conference talk called Conversion is the goal. Realizing even the Apostles were not converted until the Holy Ghost changed them. Then they "knew" And then they where ready to be crucified like our Savior. That is perfect faith. We all can have that blessing.
Thank you!
This has to be the very best teaching of the deep doctrine of these chapters I have ever heard! Makes me wish I was a student of your at BYU, I am amazed at how clear you have made this teaching!
These last two segments, Alma 30-31 and now Alma 32-35 has me writing furiously.. taking me 45 minutes to go through 10 minutes as I pause and consider, scribble some thoughts, back up and listen again. Thank you for listening carefully to the whispering of the Spirit.
I’m going to look further to see if you have these entire talks, written down. I hope so.
Oh hooray! You did!
Love, love the tie!!
Wonderful lesson. Last week’s was another beautiful lesson (Korihor). You truly educate me.
This is a great discussion of faith! Reminds me of Kierkegaard. Thank you Prof Halverson!
Can I go back to college and be one of your students? lol Do they know how lucky they are to have you as their instructor? I sure hope so! WOW, just WOW! This week's lesson just took away my block to move forward in my faith! You have been blessed and gifted with a way of teaching and helping one understand like I've never before known! Thank you Brother Halverson for your faith and testimony that this is REAL! Profound gratitude for the time and effort you have made to share with the rest of us, and grateful and thankful to your family for sharing you with us! God Bless you all!
I think one reason why Faith is more powerful than Perfect Knowledge is that it really tests and stretches us in ways that Perfect Knowledge cannot. If we have to have Faith in something, it means that we really WANT to believe that thing. It requires a choice on our part. It also requires us to "work" or struggle.
Jared, I love your lessons, but I have been taught by the spirit in my personal reading this year that to say we know doesn't mean we have a sure knowledge but is also an expression of faith. In 1 Nephi 5:5, Lehi uses the word "know." The footnote for that word is "faith and trust in God." Because Lehi had faith and trust in God, he knew that God would deliver his sons out of the hands of Laban. I think, too often, we hear people say I know, and we equate that with sure knowledge instead of an expression of faith. I recently asked my primary class how they "know" there is a God who loves them, and one little girl says simply, "Because of my experience." That's how Lehi knew God would protect his sons, and that's how I know what I say I know. My testimony is still based on faith in Jesus Christ. I personally do not like when people water down their testimonies because they're afraid to offend others. We can say we know without having a surety in the way we view that word today. Our testimony of God's love, Christ as our Redeemer, the Book of Mormon being the word of God, and living prophets is based on our experiences, not sure knowledge in the way we think of knowledge today, but we should not shy away from saying this. Thanks for teaching us.❤
Thank you very much.😍👏
Thank you from Tahiti. I'm getting spiritual feast everyweek!😊
These are just such wonderful explanations of belief in order to believe. And my mind was a little blown when you taught about knowledge vs faith. Thank you!!
Brother Halverson, I know this is a bit of an unusual request. I serve in our stake presidency in Cincinnati and was discussing a thorny challenge brought forward by a member of our stake. I’ve learned so much from your various podcasts on the subject but wondered if there was any way to counsel with you or solicit your views on a couple of concerns I feel unequipped to address. Not sure how to go about reaching you. I promise to be respectful of your time if you have a few minutes to discuss.
EXCELLENT!
Thank you!!❤
I find it so interesting that things of the gospel make little to no logical, earthly sense. Our faith and trust is required in order to believe in something that goes against empirical evidence. The first practice of faith requires a true experiment, but is essential to building trust. As we continue in faith, soon our trust has evidence to rely on.
I will say .. I KNOW !!! I have worked to hard to say I believe !! I KNOW !!
The hymns I believe in Christ and I know that my Redeemer Lives. are playing as I listen. We use them interchangeably. In a court of law if we are on the stand and we are asked, "did you see the man holding a gun?" Your answer is I believe I saw him holding a gun that would not hold up. If you say "I know I saw a man holding a gun" that satisfies the court, attorney, prosecutor etc. Dissecting words is important. It gives us reason to ponder what we really intend to say. It depends upon the situation, the context, the experience.
The word Belief. Tell me what your beliefs are, what are the basic beliefs of the Church of Jesus chritst of latter day Saints? We don't ask, what do you know? Although that would be a cool conversation to have. Remember the story about the man who asks, how do you know your church is true? the response is, do you know what salt tastes like? Yes, can you tell me? We could spend weeks dissecting this. Bottom line I know I am a child of God, I know the church is true, I believe in Christ, I believe the family is eternal. The list could go on. If we use believe and/or know we are on a really great path and that is really wonderful and we are progressing in the right direction.
Bro. Halverson, I know you do not want to "script" what is fitting to say when we bear our testimony, but I am struggling to figure out how to bear my testimony without coming off as .... squishy. I am guilty of saying "I know the Savior lives" when I haven't had a visit from the Savior. I don't want my testimony to make others feel like they are not truly converted because they don't feel that it is truthful to say "I know," because they acknowledge (as do I) that they are still human and prone to doubts. However, I don't know where that balance is between "beating someone with 'knowledge' " and sounding as if I am struggling with my overall faith. Can you help guide us?
The promise to the Book of Mormon says to ask God the eternal father in the name of Christ if these things are not true and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it to you by the power of the Holy Ghost And by the power of the Holy Ghost you may the truth of all things.
I disagree with many of the assumptions of brother Halverson he does not seem to understand the power of the Holy Ghost witness which comes as an endowment. After receiving that witness the Lord said if you know who I am by the power of the Holy Ghost and then you deny me there is no forgiveness in this world or in the world to come.
Ok, but could you say you know Him well enough to recognize Him if He were in a crowd of people walking down the street? Be careful about saying you know Him when what you may really know are His teachings and some of His attributes.
I'm not judging. I've said that I know He lives many times in testimony meetings. Not so much lately though. Not because my testimony has diminished, but because I began to realize that it was based more on faith than actual knowledge.@Jerb-ib9wx
I loved your lesson on Alma 32. I always learn alot from you. But there are a few things that have been bothering me about the Alma 32 lesson. I feel that if we are worried about the words someone uses to express their feelings, then we don’t feel the spirit of their testimony. Sunday a brother from the stake, in his talk, expressed knowledge that the church was true. Immediately I thought, he shouldn’t be saying that. That thought took away from the spirit I was feeling from his talk. It is hard for me to bare my testimony, if I am worried that I might say the wrong words, or I might make someone feel bad if I say I know something, that they don’t feel like they know. Should a young woman not bare testimony that she knows she is a child of God, because another young woman might not feel that same way? Hopefully the one hearing the testimony will feel the spirit and be motivated to want to know for herself. I feel like I know from experiences I have had, that the gospel has been restored and that I know this church is the true church of Christ. That doesn’t make me think or feel that I don’t need to excercise faith anymore. I still question and but then go back and remember experiences I have had that have helped me know. Knowledge coupled with continued faith should be a desired goal. Not so much - Knowledge achieved without faith connected. And I don’t think we should be telling people what they should and shouldn’t say to express their testimony. Also when you said that they got the primary song wrong. Why, in that primary song, can faith not be compare to a little seed? It has such a good message that helps children understand about faith. Sorry I don’t want to be negative, but these things have been really bothering me this week. Thank you for all the time you spend helping us understand. You help so many people.
I don't think I know anything beyond shadow of a doubt, but I think I know a couple of things beyond a reasonable doubt, as our legal system would say. But I'm okay with faith. In many things, I simply have to choose to believe...
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Brother Halverson,
Please, please don’t equate uncertainty and being in flux with doubt.
Doubt is active disbelief because of fear. The Savior commands us to doubt not. Doubt is never good.
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You have a plant growing out of your head in your icon 😂
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Hi. Bold in yellow tends to blend with the other words. Your original was better, for those color blindness.
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This whole world, universe, the cosmos was created by faith, not knowledge, of Jesus Christ. Jehovah.