The Terrifying Mystery of The Fourth Dimension | Three Body Problem Series
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- Warning. This video will have spoilers for Cixin Liu’s Remembrance of Earth’s Past trilogy.
The Remembrance of Earth’s past Trilogy is one of the most existentially terrifying book series I’ve ever read. The concepts explored in the books force us to consider our place within the cosmos. Part of what drives the human spirit forwards is the belief that we can continue to learn more about the universe, the belief that we have boundless potential. Because from our perspective the universe is mostly static. Its movements are on a scale in which humans cannot truly comprehend. To us, it feels stable and eternal, infinite and unchanging. Of course, we know if we look closely that none of this is true, the universe is a chaotic realm, constantly in motion. Its secrets are endless.
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"Every soul who ever lived throughout the cosmos, all meet at the end in darkness... Well thanks for watching!"
What do mean???
Darkness is where it all begins. Master darkness and you'll master the self. From there... The possibilities are limitless.
@@manueldelarosa7723 that's how the video ends lol
@@theautodan7095 Ya know, that's just kind of edgy word soup that doesn't really mean anything. In the context of the story, that "darkness" is dimensional collapse. Not exactly a whole lot of possibilities or mastery to be had at the 1st dimension.
"life begins in darkness" - Count Servigny
You made me read the whole trilogy. And it was awesome!!! Mind blown. Incredible. The concept of the Dark Forest still haunts me, and the idea that nothing is "natural" anymore, that nothing remains untouched by intelligence, not even spacetime itself, completely overwhelmed me... Thanks Quinn!!!!!!
Definitely read the redemption of time as well apparently it’s a new ending which even the author gave his consent for
@@muthias4582 Is it a book by another author?
@@askani21 A fanfiction. The author Liu was relatively open-minded about it. But that does not represents Liu's own thought about the real conclusion.
@@askani21 it is but like I said Qixin gave his blessing for it.
@@Albert_C in the end the author has the final say on his own fictional universe and if he says the redemption of time is canon then it’s canon
The dark forest idea is scary because it has the ring of a real possibility to it. A great read! Thanks
yeah. because it is totally logical. I do not believe in it. but since it is a logical equilibrium it is a real possibility...
But think about of the potential profits and fame!
@@fabiankempazo7055 I wouldn’t say totally logical it’s just only a potential reality but potential doesn’t mean that it’s real. It’s better that we don’t jump at shadows and hope for the best and be prepared for the worst.
I think it will come down to how cost-efficient and difficult it'll be for advanced civs to "terraform" new planets to their liking. If it's comparatively easy, then planets in your immediate vicinity become much more attractive to settle on, than some distant lush green planet. We humans could already do reasonable terraforming ( albeit it'll take generations upon generations in our perception of time ) with our current energy output, that in its majority relies solely on fossil fuels. Imagine a spacefaring civ that can already harness the full energy output of their star.
@@guysome3263 We cant even keep this planet terraformed for our own existence. The difficult part of all of this for me to imagine is intelligent species acting together for thier mutual benefit. Humans would be helpless against any properly organized civilization.
"They moved from one dark forest to another dark forest" is probably my favourite line in the series alongside the last sentence in Death's End and in Dark Forest
I got chills when I read that.
Loved the last sentence of deaths end
The prologue of the third book which took place in Constantinople had me hooked immediately, though some parts of it didn't make sense to me until I read the later section where Blue Space encounters the 4D fragments. Then it all clicked, Helena saying "I can't go *there*" and the missing top of the minaret reappearing, it's amazing how Cixin Liu sets up mysteries and later it all makes perfect sense
True. I hadnt thought about It.
The dark forest theory is definitely terrifying because of that sense that it could be real much the same way with Lovecraft’s fear of the unknown theme. And it’s also a fear that really has no cure for it but it does have a treatment. It’s taught me the importance of remembering that despite the fact we go into space with a lot of fear we must not let that fear dictate our actions. I mean after all if we go in chasing and fearing shadows and shooting at them we will only expect to be shot right back at but if we go and cautious and not shoot first and ask questions later then try to talk we just might MIGHT find at least a pragmatic ally.
Problem is all it takes is for one society to not follow that same protocal. We extend a hand and they wipe us out. One mistake and its over
@@ivangrossman6876 but it makes no sense for any species to subscribe to the Dark Forest mentality when dimension strikes are a thing.
Either you make peace or everyone will die, all other logic is absurd in the face of that. It makes weighing the risk/benefit of war seem trivial. With war there is no survival and with peace there is a slim chance.
@@ivangrossman6876 Indeed but again what I’m just pointing out is that we don’t know and we shouldn’t act on suspicions that we don’t know if they are true. Otherwise we will end up creating our own enemies anyway regardless.
My curious explorer mind doesn't understand this "fear of the unknown" mentality. To me, one can only be afraid of what one knows.
@@mugwump7049 The fear of the unknown is being afraid of what you might find basically like what fear of the dark is. You don’t know what’s out there and your mind plays tricks on you depending on how paranoid you are. The best thing to do is to remind yourself you don’t know and as you said you should only really fear what you know and only when you have a reason to.
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I do not believe the trilogy overall is really depressing since it says that in the end if things go right the universe will be reborn again. In a process similar to the modern cosmological theory of the "Big Crunch". It might even be reborn with 10 dimensions at the beginning. In general, the trilogy is far less depressing than people think, on the contrary, it contains many encouraging plot lines, such as the fact that some humans survive and create a new home among the stars, and the universe is going to be reborn in the end if everyone returns the mass from their mini-universes. It almost has a Hindu-Buddhist philosophical touch to it, an eternal cycle of rebirth and death. That was my impression at least.
I agree, the series can be dark and depressing but it uses that to contrast with it's more hopeful side.
The female protagonist of the third book is a great example of this idea.
She is compassionate(to a fault) and always wants to do the right thing(even when doing the "wrong" thing would save countless of lives)
In fact I found it too optimistic
That depends on your definition of optimism I guess. Some people are perfectly capable of hacking their fear of personal death by comforting themselves with the idea that information about them will remain. In order to feel comforted by this tale, however, you need to hack your fear even further and feel comforted by the idea that despite everything you are, was and will ever be, along with everything you have ever known will be remade into shapes that are only reminiscent to those familiar to you based on infinite extrapolation of possibility.
"It's ok, because you will probably be remade an infinite amount of times."
The thing is, before COVID, most western readers commented saying Liu Cixin had too little faith in humanity. Well... Not anymore.
that was a message sent by the giant civilisations. i dont know if it means it is true, but it has some truth to it.
if, newtonion gravity, which is a good measure of gravity in non-relativistic situations, works the same way in other dimensions, then the 2nd dimension would have stronger gravity as a whole, and it can actually collapse on itself (currently it seems the universe just keeps on expanding)
I could not sleep after reading this series. 😂 The whole "dark forest" thing is scary af.
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Wha? That’s the coolest part, you gotta fight for your right to paaaaaartaaaay
I don't put too much stock in the dark forest. Humanity has already sent out greeting cards into rhe universe so others might learn about us. Why not others too?
With such vast sizes of this galaxy, let alone the universe, there should be lots of resources. Enough that the heat death of the universe will likely get us before we run out.
Like the cold war, nuking each other into oblivion just isn't economical. Especially when you figure out that most of the water and iron in the solar system aren't on earth. Makes more sense for aliens to go after titan, mars, and the asteroid belt, where humans are not got to fight to the death over it.
@@whitemagus2000 thats a great analogy
@@whitemagus2000 We havent put out a real signal yet tho. In the book they had to use a star to amplify the message to be heard. We on the other hand are sending out radio signals thinking we are doing something. While we look with a magnify glass at the top of the ocean contemplating what the ocean floor is like. Compared to the civilizations in the novel we are still cavemen. Also extra pessimism here.... look at our governments... do you really think we can pull anything off besides tax breaks for the ultra wealthy lol
Learning that we were a result of aliens toying with physics in their wars left me feeling insignificant in a way like nothing before. That was the craziest idea I’ve ever heard. Best part of the whole series
Quinn, I just finished the series after hearing about it on your channel and I am just awestruck. I’m still processing that a human mind produced such a masterpiece. Almost as befuddling is how I’ve never heard the series mentioned outside of your channel! I honestly can’t thank you enough for what you do. This has without a doubt become not just my favorite book series but my favorite work of art in any form and I have you to thank for knowing it. Seriously, thank you so much.
The description of them entering the fourth dimension in the book was truly mind boggling. I had dreams about entering it later that night, and I genuinely feel like it opened up the way I see the universe. Even though it's fiction, it makes sense, and it's description of our perception of it is sound. The books are so out of this world, and yet believable, because of how descriptive they are.
I spent a whole month crawling through the quicksand of existential dread after reading the series and now you just tossed me back into it. Goddamnit.
LMFAO BRO this description is me rn i am DROWNING in the dread
I really don't get that fear. We already assume that the universe will end in a heat death. And that heat death will happen in an unimaginably distant future. Why would you worry about humanity's fate in trillions upon trillions of years when it is not even guaranteed that we won't wipe ourselves out within the next few hundred years?
Are you out or escape velocity's insufficient? 😅
More vids about the trilogy please! (maybe about humanity's evolution within the series)
IKR I’m luvin this narration 😭🙏🏾🔥
We need more 😮
Yes please!
NO FK U finish mysts of avalon!!!!
I just checked out the Kindle version of The Three Body problem from my local library. So far I'm only a few pages in. I hope it lives up to the hype.
@@spiritbond8 no one cares about low quality garbage no one has heard about.
"I am the tomb. It's the tomb speaking to you. I'm dead."
That made me laugh...
y’all got me worried about how I’m gonna react to 4th dimensional intelligence when I’m not even nearly smart enough to understand calculus😂😂
Thank you for introducing me to this series!!!! You're a gifted orator and select the components you choose to explore very well, great job Quinn 👍🏼
Bro I literally started reading this series because of your first video on the subject, just finished the last book and all I can say it wow! Thanks for getting this series more attention. It deserves it!
I think its only scary if one clings to the idea that things should last forever. There is not a single piece of existence that lasts forever in a given state. Everything is born, grows, changes and dies. The temporary existence of things is what gives it its inherent value/beauty. The frozen picture isn't what is valuable/beautiful, it is the experience of that moment that is valuable/beautiful. That moment that came and went in an instant. A universe is no different.
Very wise comment
Even atoms will eventually decay into nothing but quarks
Every atom in me was made in stars and ever atom will return to stars. Life is a brief candle.
I mean, in our univers3
In a span of just a few days this channel has quickly grown into one of my favourites! I’ve even ordered a paperback copy of The Children of Time novel thanks to this channel and very much look forward to reading it!
I've read the books a few years ago and your videos are the perfect way to relive them again. Thanks for making these. I love both the style and the quality.
The way you explained the life cycle of the universe is incredible,I mean I've never even thought to go anywhere near that directional hypothesis.. 10 dimensions ,The Universe in the sense as a Utopia,a complete paradise
This is definitely thought provoking & mind expanding! Pure genius 💯
Thank You Quinn 🙏🏾
I love that. It is very scary but also so interessting. You just want to know more about this, the universe. Why is it like that. Cixin Liu's view on this is so refreshing. Thanks quinn for that good stuff. Want to hear more about this series
This is one of my favorite parts of Death's End. The Dark Forest concept was so well explained in the previous book through the night time discussion of Luo Ji and Da Shi. There, I loved the combination of logic, informality, and even humor. Here, it's the novelty of the explanation from the ship/ring/tomb.
You never disappoint, great job as always👍
Thank you for helping me revisit this series. I remember looking for explanation videos and visuals when I first read the trilogy a few years ago - I didn't realize how much I needed these videos!
Thanks for still doing videos on this trilogy! Your first video was the reason I even chose to start it
I love this book series! Finished the final book only yesterday. Great content as always Quinn!
Thanks for introducing me to this series. It was a great read. The trisolarians, dark forest and end are most creative concepts I have read in sci-fi in years.
I explained the concept of the Sophon to a friend, badly, like a person shining a flashlight into another person's face. You can't see behind the light, and you become blinded to the things around you. It was a way of distorting another person's perception of reality.
Ok, this makes a lot of sense then, had some issues trying to completely understand how that was applied.
There was something in the scene with Singer that made me think of ten dimensional space differently.
He mentions how the Starpluckers, Earth, would speak to the other, Trisolaris, and there would be four time grains for messages to travel. It's a distance of four light years from one star to the others, so that makes sense, but the English translation uses the word 'grain', a very small unit of measurement. Could Singer's time grain be the smallest standard unit of time his people use, the equivalent of our word Second?
If so, exactly how much time passed between when he noticed Earth and Trisolaris talking and launching his special bomb? More importantly, does him being two dimensional have anything to do with his slow speed? Could he be so big in area that his nervous system needs a year to do what takes us a second?
This leads me to a question in the other direction; were four dimensional beings smaller than us? Did they measure time in microseconds, and we would be impossibly slow giants to them? Could the same notion hold true as you gain dimensions? Could ten dimensional beings smaller than an atom have been ruining the universe in a matter of seconds?
I am basing all this speculation on a single word in the English translation, but I think it demands consideration.
An entire civilization run off the power of a single LED.
I want you to imagine that.
Now think of how much we waste in terms of energy when it comes to simply thinking these thoughts.
A civilization that has prepared for the Great Heat Death of the universe will have slowed thoughts to measure in Eons to what would take us mere seconds right now.
Now think of that LED being an entire civilization to conserve energy and material.
The objective is to simply wait, to survive the End of Everything.
@@Life-tastic Singer and his tribe were not waiting though, they were engaged in a war with someone else, and it was not going well for Singer and company.
If you can wait things out like that, the sacrifice might be worth what you gain.
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Of course, however this example was not specifically for Singer.
It is only an example of the various reasons and ways species go about it.
Wasn't Singer and the Seed he was living on still three-dimensional though? At the end of the scene, it is pretty much confirmed that their homeworld would make the move into two-dimensional space as a defensive action, but does that mean the species as a whole is already adapted to two-dimensional living, even the individuals on off-world colonies like Singer?
Thank you, Quinn. You are a fresh voice to me. I appreciate you: just what I needed to hear when I needed to hear it. Best wishes for your success.
I was really impressed by the books. The idea of dimension dissolving is mind-blowing.
Thanks for the video
Just finished Deaths End about an hour ago and had to come watch your videos. It's amazing to hear how much the discussion with the ring / tomb gave away what was happening, at the time it was difficult to grasp what was being said (like Tianmings fairy tales) but it became really clear in the end. Your video summarised it really nicely!
This is just plain creepy. Well goody, thanks man, now I've got a new series to read. I know that by the time I finish the entire Dune saga, I won't remember this, so I guss I just have to go ahead and grab the first book. I absolutely LOVE your content btw, truly. You've got a very interesting mind, and we seem to have a lot of similar interests. Thanks for this.
There's nothing like this anywhere else on CZcams. Your content is excellent dude keep it up
Two videos in the span of one morning? Madness! However, both are great with intriguing content. Thank you.
Woot!
One of the best reads ever !! Thank you for making me aware of this book series Quinn!
Yessss thank you for making videos on these books Quinn. Absolutely love them and I love your analysis, keep up putting out great content and I’ll always support you!
Yes I was waiting for you to cover this!!!
I am going to read this series next! Thanks for this breakdown.
Can you do a breakdown on the Broken Earth Series?
Quinn, it was on your recommendation that I checked out this series, and its fantastic. Once again, you're spot on. Thanks!
Man - found your content years ago when GoT was on the go, glad to see you're still putting out content. Great stuff!
Just finished the series this morning. Thank you, Quinn, for recommending this series. It’s what got me into sci-fi. I can’t wait to re-read the series and read more of Cixin Liu and Ken Liu’s work. The scale of this series is so mind blowing and I absolutely adore it.
Hey that's exactly the same, my friend recommended this book to me and I read the whole series in a week, and this book was like the initiation ceremony of SciFi books for me...
Well, Ken Liu is the translater althoug he writes very good science fiction too.
@@ericdraven3654 yup 👍
Wow, this sounds fantastic. So many brilliant concepts. Sadly, I’m not much of a reader due to an ADD thing, but this might be the book I need to pull me out of it…so to speak. Brilliant break down as well. Clear & concise as always, Quinn.
Have you tried audiobooks?
The books on Audible was a great listen
@@qaztim11 no I haven’t. That’s a great idea, thanks! 😎👍
Was going to suggest audiobooks.. but someone beat me to it.. ADD here too.. I love audiobooks while doing other stuff...
The audio book is superb. I listen to it while I work
I have been waiting for this video for ages !!!
Quite intriguing indeed, that is definitely on my reading list. Thanks again, you are like that friend who's read and recommends a book
Yes! I was hoping for more videos about this trilogy
great content as always
Love your narrations, Quinn. Keep up the good work, man! XD
Stunning images and passionate narration - thanks Quinn!
I am so glad you recommended this book on your channel. Remembrance of Earth trilogy is such a great SF work. It is also great introduction for new SF fans, as Three Body Problem reads as quite low SF content book. Then trilogy progress into more advanced and complicated SF ideas. Only issue I have with his books, is a bit odd way of writing by Cixin Liu. Maby fault of translation to my native language ...?
Please make more videos on this trilogy! It is truly excellent.
Great great story telling watching/ listening to your 3 body problem playlist. It's the best!
Thank you so much for introducing so many people to these books and stories. Just ordered them recently and am so excited!
If you've been to enough Greatful Dead Shows you would see all 13 dementions.
Acid will do that to you
Shall we go,
you and I while we can,
through the transitive nightfall of diamonds?
@@jybrokenhearted And lead to 'demention' dementia
You inspired me to read again, Quinn. From Hyperion to Foundation, you've resparked my love of science fiction. I love your vids and I always look forward to the next one.
Revelation Space is a fantastic novel that I would love to see you cover, if you have the time. Just putting that out there lol.
Amen
It’s not fiction lbs
Alistair Reynolds is my favourite author ✍️ of modern sci-fi, another that I’ve found recently is Neal Asher!!! Peace out from the police state of north Wales 🏴
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Hey man. I'm your old fan from times of ASOIAF content - your growth is amazing. You already infected me with dune and now this! Respect from Poland my dude.
@Quinn you are a lovely human being and your contribution to literature is immense to me. You describe and discuss and dive into and paraphrase and quote. You just rip apart whatever material you are into and put it back together for us in a digestible form. You are so thorough and I deeply appreciate it. Thank You Quinn.
"The Remembrance of Earth’s past Trilogy is one of the most existentially terrifying book series I’ve ever read. "
Hm.
Yeah, as solutions to the Fermi paradox go, this one is pretty damned bleak.
Try reading pushing ice
I listened to the audiobook years ago and it still haunts me. Almost every month, I can’t help but think that we are really in the dark forest scenario.. it always begins with me thinking if I was dropped into the Amazon forest alone, would I be shouting at the top of my lungs here I am, to every predator out there your happy meal Is ready. Or would I be quiet until I’m in a position to escape, defend and protect myself. It just makes me wonder
i do think the moral of the story is to enjoy the moment and live your life fully. As Luo Ji continues to promote
The problem is that real life tends towards stability. The dark forest turns into the enchanted forest. Predators define each others' territories and are subject to natural l Iimitations. Birds squawk. In fact most complex animals are evolved to make noise. This by itself disproves the dark forest theory.
@@trequor what ? no,
finally you are covering my favorite sci-fi book series of all time!
I had never heard about this author and series before. Sounds interesting. Thanks Quinn!
BTW, nice psychedelic visuals in this video.
Quinn, do you Narrate audio books? You most certainly have the talent for it. Unlike most Audible narrators, you know how to work the microphone, and you have a nice variety of voices to express different characters emotions in dialogue. And your tone is so soothing, I have fallen asleep to many of your vids. I mean that as a compliment, as I need human voice to get me off to sleep, and my brain is very fussy about who it lets do it.
Anyway, thanks for inspiring me to consume more great works of modern sci-fi. I've just finished Dark Forest, at your suggestion. Though, I appreciate recaps, as it was so long, and It was difficult for me to keep track of all of the characters. Though I get the feeling one doesn't need to know much about all them, only what their function is in the superorganism of humanity in this world. I also appreciate the various interpretations of greater thinkers than myself.
I'm looking forward to Death's End. Though I think I need some time to digest the prior two books. I consumed them too fast, and no doubt missed some key elements. Yet, I get the feeling that might be a feature of the author's style. Like we aren't supposed to know what he doesn't yet want us to know. And often plot points or character interactions are based around metaphors, that require the reader/listener to stop and think. I maybe I'm just a bit on the slow side.
Thanks again for your suggested readings. I think I'll like them all.
Absolutely true.
I loved Remembrance of Earth’s Past. I love Foundation, I love Hyperion, I absolutely love Dune. You should go through The Quantum Thief trilogy. It’s a real mind bender.
Other than remembrance of earth which I have not read.. it’s as if I wrote this post almost exactly…
Glad I found your channel. It is like considering the the laws and properties of the universe without any cognitive brakes. Loving the ride!
the very beginning of Deaths End really made me think about the dimensional bubbles. I'm so happy you got me into this series, Quinn, Three Body is such a great series and I can't wait to read Ball Lightning and Wandering Earth. just getting into Death's End now, and I start to realize and comprehend things I know are plot points but don't fully understand yet. Like when Cheng Xi saves Yun Tianming from euthanasia, then it immediately goes into her boss's plan to send someone out into space to meet the trisolaran fleet. Knowing that he later gets captured and that Cheng Xi is the second Swordholder, it really makes me wonder how it all gets there!
Great videos Quinn, I'm so happy I saw your videos and then read the books. You leave out some amazing plot moments that I never expected and it makes the reading experience after having watched your videos that much more amazing. I recommend to anyone that you read all three books. The Dark Forest is a bit of a lul, but I think Ken Liu does amazingly well translating the other two books and it may just be that I prefer his way of translating the books than to the other guys translations. Ken Liu having translated Redemption Of Time makes me yearn to read it next after Death's End!
Just finished Deaths End, and I’m about to start Redemption of Time. Your videos are terrific btw Quinn. Could you do more videos about this series? They would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for doing what you do 👍
Boy, you are in for a ride. I won't spoil anything but they do reveal the physical appearance of trisolarians there, is NOT what you expect. It's beautiful. God this series are unbelievably incredible
These books seem so cool. I tried to order the first one but I couldnt tell if it was a Chinese or English print, it was very confusing. Def going to keep looking for them. So far youve gotten me to read the Dune books which I gave up on the first one when I was young, and now Im reading Hyperion (about halfway through book 2). Nice to finally be reading hard scifi again like when I was 14!
bookrepository ships worldwide and have them, and a lot other books
Nothing compares to being 14. Check, for instance the music charts from when you were that age, the just published comics, the popular movies...
Watching all three of these right now Quinn! Love your vids man! 👊🏻 Gonna have to read the books 📚
Thanks Quin you have really shaped me as a reader! I just finish this series so I could watch these videos!
Awesome video, Quinn! I would have been totally for the adaptation if D&D weren't helming it (John Bradley and Liam Cunningham have also signed on). At least it's a finished series, but I don't expect them to properly understand another story as intricate as this, just cherry pick the parts that sound coolest for TV.
Wait there is a adaptation going on?
@@luclin92 Yeah, it was announced late last year for Netflix. They recently made a cast announcement.
I'm extremely excited and weary at the same time
@@qaztim11 *wary. Weary means tired.
Ahh come on. The first few series of Game of Thrones were top top tier stuff. Filmed brilliantly, acted class, and production design etc was top notch. It only lost its way at the end when they ran out of source material. There’s no issue of that happening here
This was a good read second book onto the third.
Most sci-fi have aliens at same level of technology were they battle for superiority in a back and forth conflict.
This trilogy was wonderful
Every time I watch one of the videos on this I want to reread the series. Your videos are a great companion to this and many other series.
Shockingly, I never heard of it! It sounds great. Will defiantly pick them up. Thanks!!
Please do more in depth on this I've been wanting to read them but I never have the time
Liu Cixin is a genius. I'll need to reread this series
Wow! Intriguing concept. Another great video.
Please do more videos on this trilogy. Your first video got me to pick up the first book.
This segment actually compliments my Idea of the life part of a living soul itself is fourth deminsional and continues to exist without the body and becomes an indo of what the exo matter was
OMG!! Pls dont stop.
Very much enjoying your videos on this series... now that I've read _The Redemption of Time_ , I'm diving into the playlist. You have such a good voice for narration.
Amazing video! Really makes you enjoy the novels even more. Thanks!
I've read books 1 and half of book 2, and I define it as "evil Contact". I mean like the meme "evil thing be like" and it's the opposite of the thing. if Contact by Carl Sagan gives a message of hope and is optimistic about humanity, other civilizations and how the universe works, this thing is the opposite. the whole idea of being trapped here and never getting to know how the universe was originally in its natural state is terrifying. the idea of "it has happened before multiple times, a civilization detects another and does a dimentional collapse to destroy it, even if it brings down the whole universe" is an abomination. it's like if we dried all the oceans on purpose to kill al marine life.
the whole thing is mindblowing, enough for a person in that reality to go mad from the revelation.
The protagonist in the third book, Cheng Xin, gets depressed about this whole revelation, but one of the other characters reminds her that she needs to live her life and these questions lie outside of the scope of the burden that rest on her shoulders.
@@m82a1light50cal after finishing the third book, now I'm even more depressed.
the ending is too open for my taste, I'd like concrete answers like "everybody in the little universes returned to the big universe so the mass is enough for the collapse and new big bang" or not.
also, the author is sadistic. was it too hard to make Yun Tianming and AA be in the little universe waiting for Cheng Xin?. after all they went through, the guy literally went through hundreds of light years and centuries for her, and never got to see her again!. but Tomoko is still "alive".
sorry girl, you don't get to see the guy that loved you for centuries and gifted you a star and a little universe, you don't get to see your best friend AA either, but you get to see again Tomoko the evil trisolaris robot and be friends with her!. yay!.
and I'm not sure I even like Cheng Xin, she made a big mistake TWICE. Wade or Luo Ji were prepared to do what was necessary to give humanity the best chance against Trisolaris and the rest of the dark forest.
she wasn't, the vibes I got from her were like "oh no!, I'm a poor girl!, I don't know what to do!!, boo hoo!!, poor me!!!". She was the opposite of Ye Wenjie.
I would have liked more about the people from Blue Space and Gravity solving problems, conquering space, settling on planets, creating a new civilization or society... we get some information about that, but we don't see it happening.
it's like the whole last third of the third book is a big disappointment and doesn't solve all plot points in a satisfactory way for me.
it's like Mass Effect 3 all over again.
Chang Xin is like a well written adult version of Darth Vader.
I heard great things about this book series. It was announced last year that its going to be adapted into a show for Netflix but I haven't heard anything about the project actually moving forward.
If any book series is the absolute definition of "unfilmable", it's this one!
@@vollsticks people are saying they already casted actors for it and production started this November, someone commented this on my other post. Also Dan and Dave are going to be the showrunners.
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Dan and Dave?! Game Of Thrones Dan and Dave?! Ohhh deary me
@@vollsticks Cixin Liu has commented and seems to be supportive of the Netflix show.
@@HEYabbot or really supportive of money
The First Video from your Channel Ive watched was about the Shrike. Now, two Months later Ive finished reading all four books of the Hyperion Cantos. And this Video right here captures my Attention as much as the Shrike-Vid, so I guess I will read this book series too. Thx for introducing this Austrian boy here to amazing Sience Fiction series, you are one of my favourite CZcamsrs Quinn!
Incredible brother!!! Thanks so much for your content.
When they talk about "dimensional collapse", I wonder (I have not read the series yet) that these other dimensions of the original 10 dimensional universe weren't destroyed, but collapsed down and now are the compactified microscopic dimensions of 10 or 11 dimensional string theory...?
@bryce burchett That’s exactly right. Cixin Liu explains it that way in the books
They are, they make an appearance in the first book when the Trisolarians start folding protons. Civilizations exist still in other dimensions but are much weaker
Nice one Quinn, great to see you covering the magnificent ROEP. Have you read The Redemption of Time, the epilogue book?
An epilogue? What? I read the whole trilogy, and it scarred me for life lolll. I need to read this epilogue too. What's it about?
I'm glad I found this channel 🙏🏽
Glad to see the series on your channel. There is a lot you could talk about here.
This series reminds me so much of the Half-Life video games. The Trisolarians may as well be the Combine from Half-Life.
I love the ideas of this series.
I mean, I really didn't think the series as a whole is well developed or well written.
But damn, it has some amazing ideas.
The plot jumps around a lot and the character arcs were a bit sloppy, but I also think a lot of nuance might have been lost in translation.
Just found this channel after finishing the 3 Body problem series. These are amazing!
Thank you Quinn. Your channel is one of the best
I just finished this series this morning. The end was a let down but all together it was very interesting.
I'm so obsessed with the trilogy, so many mind boggling ideas, stories and wild imaginations.
So, what is the link with the fish in a bowl at the end of the book Death's end? Is it somehow connected with this episode of fourth dimension?
If anyone knows, please care to explain.
The fish bowl was essentially a mini universe. A very very simple one, but I think it was more like a terrarium which only needs some sunlight. It can thrive with zero intervention, therefore Cheng Xin decides to leave it behind as a possibly final human "memory". She was allowed to leave behind only memories according to the returners (the beings who took responsibility for ensuring the big crunch happened by imploring every species to return from their mini universes outside of the cosmos).
I am not 100% on the deeper meaning behind the fish bowl, but my interpretation is that it served as a small glimmer of hope that a part of Earth survives into the new universe.
Guan Yifan, who ends up with Cheng Xin in the micro-universe at the end of 'Death's End', had a small ecosphere containing fish all the way back when Blue Space and Gravity first interacted with the fourth dimension. The book describes it as his favourite possession.
During the discussion with the Ring, where it spoke about puddles and fish, it asked if it could keep the ecosphere. Guan Yifan handed it over.
I think that's why Sophon and Cheng Xin make another one for him in the first place. Then, similarly to the fate of the first fish ecosphere, the second ecosphere is left to perhaps communicate with anyone who might come across it, as a memory of humanity. This mirrors the Ring, which describes itself as a tomb; it, too, is a memory of its own civilisation.
The ecospheres are described as enclosed ecosystems. Such things exist today, too. I guess they're sort of like miniature universes in and of themselves. (Except they do require heat and sunlight from the external environment, so they're not entirely closed systems.)
@@sherp1796 very interesting!!
Thank you so much for explaining. 👍
Quinn...I just love your channel...thank you.
Have not read the books but I am watching all of these videos! Love your content! ❤🎉
Long live Zhang Beihai and Yun Tianming, the true MVPs of this series...