OK, OK... let's run THE BIG BOY! [Train Simulator 2022]
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2022
- In this video, I talk through how to run and fire the BIG BOY made by Smokebox in TS2022. It's been over a year since I've run it, and my assumption that the injector controls were not going to be simulated accurately leads to an oops... we'll try it again soon enough.
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I wouldn't like to have the big boy in railroads online
See how to get a pinned comment folks? NO BIG BOY. I feel like Edna from the Incredibles.... no capes!
@@Hyce777 What, you mean we cant get a narrow gauge bigboy?
@@neonsamurai1348 you can... future video ;)
I commented that before and didn't get pinned =( (twas a different vid)
@@Hyce777 oh god...
Hyce: "why am I not feeding water?" Right above the exhaust water valve is a light for a sensor that flicks on when you haven't primed and are spilling out the overflow ;)
See, the thought of there being an electric indication in the cab is so foreign to me on a steam engine I didn't even think about it. Hahaha
@@Hyce777 To start the exhaust steam injector (ESI), first you turn the water regulator to about 3 or 4, then pull the starting handle back about half way and watch for the "spill" light to come on, at which point you continue pulling the handle all the way back and check that the spill light has gone out. You can also lean out of the cab and watch for water spilling from the overflow near the back left cylinder. The spill light gets its signal from a sensor mounted on the smokebox just above the injector, and allowed the fireman to check for spillage more easily at night. To stop the injector, just push the starting handle all the way forward. The ESI also works even when there's no exhaust. In that case, it switches over to live steam that has been put through a pressure reducing valve, so that it's at about the same pressure as exhaust steam. When it does that (the changeover), you can actually see it happening on the gauge (the water pressure needle will drop suddenly before going back up as the changeover kicks in).
@@Hyce777 As for the live injector, first make sure that the water valve is open, and then pull the lever up a short way into the priming region of the quadrant and leave it there for a second or two. You'll hear the sound change when it's primed. Then pull it farther back until it's fully upright (the middle of the quadrant is maximum flow, and if you keep moving the lever back, that reduces the flow rate).
@@Hyce777 I saw the light come on but I figured that meant it was working 😂 I've never even seen the inside of a locomotive
I think my favorite thing about this engine is that UP still uses it to pull mainline freight along with a diesel helper. They even modernized her with PTC to bring her up to code and modern safety standards. Insane to think just how powerful this thing is even to this day.
I enjoyed this. Can you make another of these but tell us a little about how to properly fire locomotives and maybe share some memories from your railroading experience? This was relaxing.
Certainly :) thanks mate!
There's an old "LMS" video that goes over firing as a concept. It's pretty neat too.
@@Hyce777 certainly people looking for that as content. Likely never do what you do regardless of my love of trains in general, and stream engines in more specific
Fun fact, the Big Boys and Challengers both only have one air cylinder for the reverser. There's an articulated reach bar system that moves the valves on the front engine as well as the rear one.
That is neat! I didn't know that.
I love smokebox's locomotives.
Personally I'd like to see you drive some of his older stuff like the CPRR 4-4-0, CPRR 4-6-0, and the AT&N Consolidation.
Those are also more in line with what you normally show.
Also while I don't have the Big Boy I do have Smokebox's FEF-3, and on that one the whistle is quillable by tapping Enter while holding Spacebar.
I have some of the older stuff and the FEF. More to come...
Also funny thing is that Smokebox, the creator for this locomotive, made a very special surprise for everyone, if you click on the engineer’s seat or press E on your keyboard, there is an automatic engineer that will operate the locomotive so that you don’t over burden yourself with operating the controls and fireman controls as well as taking screenshots as the big boy runs by
This was oddly enjoyable, please do a follow up when you get it to function, if you need to just put the automatic fireman on i guess 🙈
Might be for the best :P
He gets SO excited over the firing simulation, it's adorable :D
This was great to watch. Please do continue this captivating adventure. 👍
My favorite big boy story is when a it’s diesel helpers brakes locked and big boy out pulled it
22:44 There IS a Quilling whistle! You have to hit enter on your key board while holding space.
I will need to try that out!
@@Hyce777 you should also do a double header with 4014 and 844, and if you hit control + shift + B then it will put the big boy chalk mark on the smoke box door
@@Hyce777 also when you were messing around with the knobs the one you used on the bottom of the firebox door turns on the smoke deflectors (edit: only 4019 had smoke deflectors as an experiment but they were taken off)
BIG BOY TREN!
I love the Big Boy because when I was a lot younger I got to go to a museum where one of these was doing a cross-country tour and stopped in Duluth where the museum that I went to is and I got to see them move it around in the yard and the sound this thing made in the yard which equated to a large alleyway under an overpass which made the greatest echo and being a little kid and seeing the shear size and hearing the sound echoing through this area had me in awe and I just remember that feeling whenever I see these videos.
you guys should add the big boy into rro just to have it not be able to load water and make it a static display just to piss people off lol
YES!!! The Big Boy is my favorite engine. I don't ask for things or push to see different engine's but I love these trains
I love it. You know so much, and just trouble shooting it is awesome
got this video rerecomended, I remember when this video came out. Its been a long time since then. Oh how the time flies when we're having fun. :)
That was a nice run through of the cab controls.
Well dang Mark you got this ol fellow feeling real nostalgic for the bearskins and stone knives of MSTS 20 years ago ( geeze louise I'm feeling every minute of my 60 years realizing it's actually that long ago) a lot of us really took that Sim to the absolute limits particularly once you ook at some of the stock equipment that came with it vs some of the stuff we were cranking out after a few years vs some of the stuff that was getting cranked out by users towards the end. But holee crud that newer stuff is amazing.
Oh man, yeah that's more than 20 years ago now. I never got to play MSTS with extra stuff because I never had it on a PC with internet. I did see the ridiculous amount of content later down the road... Seriously impressive what some folks did.
This and that Searchlight Simulations ac4400 are the only US equipment I’ve been running recently. Both just seem to go above and beyond with the details. Manual firing looks neat, but I never put enough time in to really figure it out.
Smokebox makes great stuff, if you haven't already definitely check out his 1868 schenectady and rogers engines, they're fantastic
They really are ;)
Yeah a Big Boy definitely wouldn't fit on Railroads Online. Narrow Gauge doesn't get enough love. Like I'd be interested in seeing a Ffestiniog or an early narrow gauge diesel over a Big Boy or adding standard gauge engines and lines to the game.
#NarrowGuagePurity
Big Boy stands up to its name yet again 😄
I've been to the forney museum of transportation and seeing the big boy there was astounding. It truly is a BIG boy
Definitely try Smokebox's CPRR Jupiter pack, it's just as magnificent
ive sat in the cab of 4006 at the museum of transportation in St. Louis Missouri! its quite the experience. you can still move the (i think) independent brake and a few of the valves in the cab. i couldnt imagine being in 4014 while its live. thats on the bucket list though!
The ash pan control under the firebox door puts smoke deflectors on the engine when turned on.
I like the big boy and all bit my heart Lies with the narowgauge, maybe because I grew up playing on SPNG 8 in Sparks NV or because my first experience fireing a locomotive was on Glenbrook, and Operating with the Antelope & Western Porter on the NCNC.
My heart is with narrow gauge as well, for similar reasons...
This is awesome dude
Actually Hyce it does have a quilling whistle. You just got to hold I believe the shift key while pressing space bar.
enter
My home town I grew up in had a 1897 built h.k porter 0-4-0t steam train as a play ground for us kids to play around on. with a Pennsylvania and lake erie bobber caboose.
Big Boy and AA20-1 for RRO...
The two perfect locomotives to help straighten and convert 3 feet gauge track to standard / Russian gauge track! :D
Lol! The 9000 class would do a better job, imo...
30min vid 15min steam crash course, 100% great content
Normally I prefer the Railroad’s Online stuff but I could definitely do with more of this!
If you press the return or enter button while blowing the whistle it makes the whistle quill
oh really? I'ma have to try that
The big boy is my all time favorite steam locomotive I instantly tapped on this video when I saw it
Finally! I asked you nicely some months ago and you said you oh this is a different game.
hm?
@@Hyce777 disregard thought was railroads online and you said no standard gauge in it.
Its so beautiful
Been playing this game since I got it at Walmart on CD in 2008. Wild that they keep "updating" it every year.
7:20 so that button you messed with is actually a wind deflector (elephant ears) toggle switch
The first service valve controls the first service, so basically that would be the initial reduction of 5 psi of air from 90 psi release
You can quill the whistle if you hit enter while whistling.
First thought was also my god the rails look to big what is thiiiiiiis
But then I realised that I have just played waaaaaaay to much RRO lately.
Say no to bigboys on narrow gauge 😜
Oh and I found the smoke stack hood, that hood to divert the smoke from up to down the length of the engine, it’s the “sander” closest to the firebox
The employees of the ES&D have worked (1) day without a derail lol
Love the intro
4,000 tons? Child’s play!! 100+ coal drag at 40mph up a 2 degree grade!
the ash pan middle valve actually puts up smoke deflectors
I would guess it is a bit hard to build speed when you're doing most of it with 51% engine brake. Around 20:45 you do turn it down, but does the rest with 5% brake, so...
I'm glad I was not the only one to notice that, lol
I noticed that too.
The thing with steam blowing out the top that you said you weren’t sure what it was was a blowoff cap which is like a steam pressure regulator
Having chased Big Boy #4014 from Fort Worth to Houston hearing that whistle without Ed Dickens making it "talk" just sounds off.
Ah yes, steam train engineers - people who are always playing with their johnson................bars.
Lol. Yup.
Hey hyce I watched the steam today was curious on the real big boy locomotive doesn't it take a full team of 8 ? Ps. Love the videos and trains you show
Cheers Christopher! Back in the day they would have operated the locomotive with 2 crew. The train would've been a crew of 5, including 2 brakemen and a conductor as well. These days they have a lot more crew on the train, but it's a special thing rather than day-to-day, so it's typical for a Pilot, Road Foreman, etc. all to be present as well.
Interesting it's not my favorite train but it's amazing piece of work I heard that it can pull up to 100 wagons/cars solo it's crazy if that's true
@@christophermcgee3809 it can pull more than 100, just depending on the railroad! This video was 57 loads up a 1.1% grade. That's a lot!
The bathroom at the railroad museum has a power reverse cylinder.?
Looking forwards to hearing the story behind that.
Lol, just the valve handle that says S/R on it.
@@Hyce777 Is it on one of those pneumatic-assisted flush toilets? The combination of a high-velocity/rocket "whoosh" and funny handle would be amusing;
And while they have a reputation for exploding if the pressure swings too far -- Working with steam power, the risks associated with a pressure vessel... wrapped in a porcelain shell... would be well understood.
( Also; Just noticed that one of the installation guides is oddly specific in emphasising to _never_ allow the static inlet pressure drift below 20psi, multiple times in repeated warnings -- including that the upper operating range ends at 125psi once every time, seemingly as an afterthought... )
This is my favorite train
best supper entertainment in a long time ... :D /Henrik
roll on big boy
DANG WOW and HOLEY COW!!
I think you needed to do some reading up first there Hyce and or take a teaching course if it was available?!
Or let the fireman do his job and help you out at least a little bit so you could learn what needed to be done to keep the water levels up?
One whole different animal there that is for damn sure!
No kidding, next time maybe one job at a time... I assumed I'd remember it all, which was a mistake! I now know the tricks... lol!
@@Hyce777 Hey it takes a man to show his failure to everyone you didn't have to show us this at all so I commend you on admitting your not perfect on all things Steam!
@@daveb.4383 Cheers mate! Yeah, I could've just done it over but I want to try and be really transparent on all these things.
@@Hyce777 Respect man
I think the game wanted to say very clearly: "RTFM!" :D
R.I.P. 4004.
Call out the Big Hooks!
Well railroads online May not have the big boy but it does have a it's little narrow gauge brother. Eather way there both cool.
There's several tutorials for the big boy available online. That might be better than simply fiddling about with the big boy.
you're basically doing what big boy was built to do.
After watching this video I now wants to see how you try on the golden spike, since it is the hardest locomotives to actually drive in game.
I do have the golden spike addons! I haven't messed with them in a while. What makes them so hard?
@@Hyce777 because they operate realistic depending on the difficulty setting.
man thats a lot of work for one person
It's fun to play with my "Johnson" bar
Large complex piece of machinery.
... you should have left the Johnson bar (aka reverser) in forward tell you got up to speed that way you have all your power to get up the grade, as for the water im not sure if you missed another valve some where.
Look like an German U Boot from WWII from the inside
THE BIG BOY LE BIGGY
Standard gauge looks funny after playing Railroads Online so much lately
That happens to us in the real world... lol! Every time I go to a different gauge it's just like "this is...wrong!"
You should get the Clear Creek pack and play with those some haha
I have that :) it is pretty neat. We can add it to the list.
So do the jets move the coal around that's already in the fire box or does it take coal from the tender and automaticaly put it into the fire house
The tender feeds coal to the locomotive via one big screw, then there is an elevator screw that comes up to bring it to the height of the fire door (approximately), where there is a table with the jets.
Would you not lose heat and also pressure in the firebox if it was open like in this video?
Correct, it's less efficient to run with the fire door open but they didn't simulate it so I left it open.
You were going with 51 % loco brake :D
nothing best than a god damm big hell steam train !
First: move the "Train brake handle" to the RUNNING position... Then: move and hold the "Engine brake handle" to the RELEASE position; that will release all brakes... Then, the engine brake handle will return to RUNNING position automatically and all brakes will be released...
Sorry, i do not speak english
glad to see it's not a toy gauge video.
Ooooooof
@@Hyce777 i just really love the larger gauges, most of the narrow gauge locomotives I've seen just feel too small.
Once we get mod support on railroads online I want to see a big boy in standard scale but with a narrow gauge chassis
vomit
i can already see it tipping over and calling a few hundred meters down a cliffs edge.
Inside-frame bigboy?
Have you tried the Colorado and southern dlc for train sim yet? It’s pretty cool
I have!
Use the Auto-fireman until you get more confidence.
Not a bad idea... Lol.
I might see my third big boy in less than a years time this week. 4014, the one in Denver 4008?? I think, and hopefully this week the one north of Dallas. I doubt I ever see the rest of them though
Nice! Denver has 4005.
@@Hyce777 yep! Always forget the number, it’s the only one still in existence that’s also been wrecked. The side rivets are all sideways and top plates are cut awkwardly together. There’s CZcams videos on what happened
@@jwrailve3615 Including one of mine! I told the story on one of the videos...
@@Hyce777 subscribed
Some might even say it’s a Big…
Diehl?
No… Big Boy….
I was gonna say, no that's you! :P
The second I saw this thing I knew it was the train from polar Xpress
I’m a fan
Yea that’s fine with you and your mom to the house lol I think I just need a little more money and then I’m just going on the other side lol I think it’s a big thing for uuh to be with me and
I seen a big boy in real life. That doesn't show how freaking massive that locomotive is.
They are AWE inspiring every time. I've seen the 4004 and 4005, both several times... each time it's like good *GOD* that is a big machine.
Maybe in the future you can run more steam engines in this game with a partner to either be the engineer or to be the fireman and you take the other role in the steam engine
If only it was multiplayer...
At the risk of drifting close to "big boy in RRO wen" if you were to design a locomotive in 3 foot gauge that has the same wheel arrangment and tries to maintain the visual queues of the Big Boy, what do you imagine that would be like and preform like?
I mean, you could probably do it, it just would be a bit limited with such a long wheelbase in terms of narrow gauge...
Could probably reduce the wheel base some with smaller drivers, but I don't know if it would be enough to make much a difference.
Just call it the boy
Not a big boy
Boy
Boiler exploded
Just a guess but that "first service" valve might be for running multiple locomotives
Nah I looked it up. I will be explaining it in an upcoming video.
Could you imagine a doubleheader with a Big Boy, and a Gas Turbine?
Yee haw!
@Mark "Hyce" Huber
Have you ever heard of any pipes bursting inside the cab while the train is being operated? Seems like it would be an inevitability for it to happen at some point with all those pipes running everywhere.
Never a pipe bursting, but I've heard many times of valve steams getting thrown through the back cab wall... never heard of an injury associated with that, but I've heard a few stories from those in the industry. They make it all out of heavy wall pipe for a reason :)
Do you own and have tried the FEF-3 by Smokebox? Personally my favorite Smokebox creation, much more advanced than running Big Boy :) Highly recommend if you like running Steam engines.
I do! I wouldn't think it's more advanced. Different, but similar. Also great.
@@Hyce777 You don't think it is more avanced? I believe it is basically the first engine in TS that had an advanced mode, somethiing the BB doesn't have (or had, it might have been updated by now?, haven't played TS in a long time)
I remember not having much issues driving the Big Boy but the FEF-3 I had to actually learn how to drive. I was so proud when I completed my first scenario without any fails lol. When it comes to 3rd party developers, Smokebox is up there with the best.
@@mavadelo ah so this is smoke box's big boy, which has a similar advanced mode. Not the original big boy that sucks. Hahaha
@@Hyce777 I see... you basically saying I have to reinstall and spend money again.... danged :P
Mostly playing TSW2 when it comes to trains but most of my time goes in Elite Dangerous and World of Warships nowadays :)
Annoyed by the safety valve? Well yeah, they always steam real good just before the crown sheet is exposed!
Naturally... No cooking space! Lol!
4004 after running dry: *coughcough* Why is it spicy?
but the beat tho is awesome on a speeding up
Would love to see you play run8 sim
It has been a hot minute since I've played Run8!
Last time I played train simulator, it was 2019 and the cab of big boy was not nearly as detailed!
Will you add the big boy? /j
have you considered getting into stormworks? you can make your own steam locomotives!
I have not, that sounds neat but like a lot of time lol
@@Hyce777 I am making the frisco 4500, and i am making it the most realistic locomotive to operate in the game. I am looking and a ton of websites that are like 12 years old lol to find diagrams and drawings of the loco. Once i get it finished you could do a video with it?
@@Hyce777 also if you would like, I have 2000 hours in the game, and i know alot on how the steam works. I could help you make your first loco if you would like?
I think every time I try to run this engine in train simulator I always get blow back. Here is hoping that I learn how mot to have that happen.
Hey Hyce u recon u could look at the GTEL’s in train sim
I think I have them? Could be neat.