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In this video producer, mix and mastering engineer David Gnozzi reviews the new Audio Technica ATH-R70X mixing headphones and the new Immerse Virtual Studio V1.2.0 plugin.
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Really cool! Looking forward hearing your comparisons!
Thanks for a great review David! Planning on buying these asap đ
Love the Rent To Own...Dope
Wow. Actually I owned that Audio Technica almost 2 years and use it all the time for referencing many mixes. What you said in the video about that headphone is what I felt too, especially about low end. But overall it's a balanced headphone for sure.
Nice! I'll be following the headphones reviews here before buying my next pair! Thank you David, as always, you the best
Awesome man, tnx for this!
Thankyou for this brother, exceptional reviewđđŸ
Pretty cool plugin and review....GREAT payment structure.
Loved the comparison!
Id love to see a shootout between ATH R70X/Immerse and the Slate VSX system
That looks like a good combo, I have the plugin and that Diamond room sounds great
Iâve been using the Audio Technica M40X headphones for about three years and I absolutely love them. I get great mixes using them.
Do you use EQ flattening softwares or just mix as it is with them? i have those headphones also
Great video! Immerse Virtual Studio is a really great plugin. Canât wait to join members giveaways :)
interesting! Thank you Dave
Listening to it on headphones was pretty cool. I have Studio 3 by waves. And its the same idea. But this is one step better on every level. Great to mix with, specially with references. Still waiting for a Mastering room though.
Hi David, Thanks for the love! We appreciate you introducing the Immerse Virtual Studio | All Access plugin to viewers. Immerse Virtual Studio is the one virtual studio plugin that can put you in the sweet spot of world-class studios. From a single picture of your right ear and using AI Immerse Virtual Studio is able to create your personalized hearing profile. With a model of how you hear, itâs able to place YOU in great sounding studios. You hear all the details in your mixes as if you were sitting at mix console of a great sounding studio, but in reality your somewhere else mixing using your favorite pair of headphones.
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Yes!!
Nice!!
I actually own the r70x for the studio, and the hd650 for when on the go (they're way sturdier). Feeling lucky!
Sennheiser hd 650 calibrated individually by Sonarworks is totally amazing !
Ah, I was wondering why they designed those with a hole in the headband. Obviously it was because of the Mohawk. So AT is watching this channel, too.
Thanks for the love. I gotta catch up on these headphone videos, because strangely enough through all trials and tribulations I keep landing on the same things you own as the best stuff and value the same plugins you like. I think I may have pretty close hearing to you. I even landed on the same Sennheisers. I am trying to come up with iems under 300, headphones plunder 500 and monitoring under 1k to try and get back into mixing as a hobby. Can't wait to see which headphones and strategies for them you come up with or maybe already have come up with.
Again thanks for the love. Btw Marc-Daniel Nelson and you are in a league by themselves as far as mixers sharing insights on youtube goes. Thank you for what you are doing.
Awesome ,,đ
Nice plugin! Looking forward more headphones to be tested with it, maybe a low budget pair next?
There will definitely be low budget ones tested
hey it's my favorite headphone, with sonarworks it works very well for mixing
I mix with a combo of the Kali LP6 and a pair of Shure SRH440s, and would love to know how this plugin works with those headphones
Hey Davide, great video! Have you tried Acustica Audio's Sienna? It's in that Immerse Virtual Studio vein, but it's got its own thing going on.
It'd be really cool to have a bunch of headphones tested by you, like a sort of encyclopedia
Would be nice to have your room in the plugin! Maybe someday ?
I don't really know what to think about this kind of plugin. If I need to work with someone on an other pc and if that person does not have the plugin, that will change the sound I have in mind if working on a daily with the IVS.
I like so much the sound of my HD650, I know them pretty well and feel very comfortable about referencing with other tracks. Just taking it away and I have the same sound everywhere.
Maybe using IVS as a reference, to activate at some point to check as the same way we check in our car or whatever. Not sure about mixing and mastering with such a plugin.
Anyway, just a matter of taste I guess ?
Great video tho, love the honest reviews like these.
QUESTION: I know that studio monitors (and a treated room) are the better way to go for mixing, but I wanted to know if a good pair of open back headphones (like the Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro) with correction software for producing beats and basic mixing could be used forever? I may also get a budget pair of monitors (like the Presonus Eris 3.5) only for refencing, and not mixing if I an doing a session with other people.
I only plan on producing beats (with some level of mixing involved), but I don't plan on doing mixing professionally.
Definitely, I have to say that more than half of the producers/beatmakers I work with do produce in headphones, I myself start productions in headphones many times, usually because when the ideas hit, I really don't need to turn on a full blown mixing/mastering studio but yes, for production and basic mixing that is totally a viable solution
Just when i was about to pull the trigger for the Sennheiser HD600 you start a series on headphones that will make me sleepless about infinite possibilities for so many nights. Can't wait to hear your reviews on all the headphones you've gotten.
Would you suggest me to go for the HD600 as a first High-end pair (I'm using a pair of Akg k240 studio that i boughr 2/3 years ago) or should i wait for the next few videos?
I've never tried the models I'm gonna try in the next weeks, but, HD600 has been my choice for a long time so you could not, never, go wrong with them
@@mixbustv thank you David, I trust your suggestions!
Which headphones Amp are you using for them?
Because I saw that ath r70x has 470ohms đŹ
Which plugin is better David, this one or dSoniq Realphones?
Could you also review/compare the Focal Spirit Pro headphones? I have those and would like to see what you think about them as far as reliable mixing goes. In my experience they translate pretty well, but I know my ears aren't as good as yours.
I also used the 280s for casual listening and found they sound nearly identical to the Focals when using Sonarworks. The real difference was the extra detail in the Focals.
I know the 280 are coming z not sure about focal but I don't know all I'm gonna review yet
I have this plugin that I tried with shure srh940 and Dt990 pro 250 ohms and both sound great. You should download this for free and check it. That was option to slate vsx
I tried the Waves NX plugins, but something must be off with their calibration when recording the IRs. I had one song, every time the bass hit an F#, it completely disappeared from the mix! Turn off NX, and it sounds fine. Both OceanWay and CLA. Weird, and a dealbreaker.
Did you ever compared the Shure SRH1540 to others?
Slate VSX offers the same rent to own option. I would love to compare them. I heard some examples of VSX and even with the wrong headphones it sounds pretty good, plus you have more than just studios to compare and check your mix (club, car, different headphones). My worry is that these headphone compensation profiles vary so much from different manufacturers using same the headphones (sonarworks, realphones, siena...), while VSX headphones are designed for that exact plugin... and it's 400$ WITH the headphones.
By the way I have immersive embody with the newest update. You can run them together which takes out the second guessing when mixing. I have both as well.
I meant to say onside with sonarworks lol
what headphone amp or dac would you recommend for the ath r70x?>
How would you compare this one against slate vsx?
Are You Familiar With Slate Digital VSX? If So What Is Your Opinion On Them?
I don't, never tried
While on the topic of corrective EQ, do you recommend one of the popular room correction systems out there such as Sonarworks Reference 4 vs IK Multimedia ARC3 vs Dirac Live etc?
It depends, do your mixes not translate because of your monitoring system? If so, maybe. It is the monitors? The room? Can you improve any of them before getting one of those things?
@@mixbustv thanks man, as far as I can tell, the monitors seem to be pretty flat, my room has horrible phase cancellations in the lower frequencies especially. A few mid frequencies get cancelled, but not too much. My mixes seem to translate pretty well except for the sub and low mids and mids which after doing a few checks with different monitors and systems, I can usually get them dialed in pretty well. I just want to EQ to make up for my room acoustics which is mostly untreated. I donât have enough knowledge to know what Iâd need to do to fix the room so I figured a good starting place would be room correction SW.
Hi Dave, i was thinking... A review of the new SSL Fusion plugins? A/B ? Shoul one buy the hardware or plugin or both? I am sure many people are interested in this matter... Thanks, ciao from Milan
Companies get in touch with me when they want me to review their plugins, if they do I will. As for buying one or the other, it all depends, usually when one thing is 10x more expensive then the the other there's a reason
@@mixbustv Thanks for the answer. Ciao :-)
Would it be possible for you to review the SPL phonitor 2 sometime in the near future. I think ots something worthwhile for those who are only able to use headphones
Tell SPL, companies get in touch with me when they want me to try their stuff (not the other way around)
Shure 1840s are underrated and the FLATTEST thing out there.
Those have to be the shittest headphones on the market. They're 'too flat' to the point the bass let alone the sub bass doesn't exist through these headphones, meaning it's impossible to do a full mix on them.
I have these headphones. They let me hear some stuff Iâve never heard with my other headphones
Anyone looking for Headphones for mixing/editing work and whatnot, and want something different/better than the Sennheiser 650's/600 series try the Audeze LCD series out. Now the LCDX's are THE HEADPHONES TO BEAT! They are seriously the best sounding mixing/mastering/editing headphones and I'm not the only one saying that. So obviously do your own homework. And yes Headphones have their own problems, and NO headphone or speakers are completely flat. But what I've learned over 25yrs in the industry is that when looking for new headphones that you want to be relatively flat, you want headphones that their tolerances are within 2db in the dips and hills of their frequency response! Cause every headphone will have dips and hills in their frequency response, but you want the smallest values in those dips and hills! For instance a set of can's that has dips and hills that are 8db in variance are not gonna be as good as a pair of cans that has 2db variances for our purposes! So that's what you wanna look for! Not which set of cans has no dips at 80hz or goes up to 50khz or down to hz....blah, blah, blah. You want can's that have lower values between the dips and hills! And Audeze, as a company, have this down pat versus other companies IMO! So as a starter headphone my personal recommendation would be the LCD1's by Audeze. Hell I'd even recommend their gaming headsets as well! But if you can swing it go the LCD-X's open back for mixing/editing! Closed back for singing vocals and whatnot for recording! Not closed for mixing if you can! I'm not too sure about these types of software. Not a huge fan myself but...to each their own! But I do know that certain ones, work better on certain headphones! Not 1 program works 100% excellent on every headphone! For Audeze LCD1's the program from Toneboosters works better than Sonarworks and whatnot.
I have the LCD1, great headphones, not better than the Senns for me (I also think I have a video on them here)
Off topic cos I can't find a video on subwoofer. What is crossover frequency I should use on krk 12 inch sub with m audio bx8 ???? .. thanks
Xover depends on your room, you need to measure your response
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Do you like the stock sound of the Beyerdynamics? I heard that popular models are too bright comparing to the Sennheiser HD 600 and similar ones
I was never a fan of the models I've tried by Beyer, but I'll be testing some and I'm open to change my mind
I have 4 pairs of the BD DT-770 Pros -- Used mostly for tracking and I like them a lot. I used them to reference mixes after they're almost complete to see how the mix translates if listening from a computer or phone. I don't find the topend hyped but the bass is bit. Comfy to wear -- I do want to buy a good pair of headphones to mix on though -- maybe the Sennheiser's.
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Do you suggest R70x against new Revision version of LCD x?
I'm not familiar with LCD-X I have the LCD-1 and I love em
What Sennheiser headphones is he taking about?
I wonder how it compares with Slate VSX.. Decided to buy Slate but this came outđ
I'm curious about that too. I was just about to buy the vsx lol.
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Is the waves nx ocean way Nashville similar to this?
I don't know that plug-in
Those headphones are actually a bit more expensive than the Sennheiser
what about beyerdynamic DT1990pro ?
We'll be testing those too
I tried on my beyerdynamic dt1990 to me it doesnt sound right.. this is just my impression
If you're used to the headphones without it of course, as everything else, you would want to try and mix several songs and see how they translate
Try slate vsx.. You'll be amazed
I did, I wasn't
You know you guys are DOA?
Hey so I only have headphones to mix on for now, my room isnât well treated and I donât have studio monitors so working with I got.
I currently have 2 pairs. Seinheisser HD 280 Pro and Audio Technicaâs M40X. I bought the 280 pros cause they say you can really hear what a normal listener would hear and that itâs a flat headphone. M40xâs have a little bass on them, more for just hearing music casually on them I guess.
But my questions are which one out of those 2 would you mix on if you had to pick? And what are some better upgraded headphones to mix on if I wanted to upgrade but still on a budget? Thanks and sorry if my typing was a little confusing đ
You already have the best you can buy in your budget. If you're mixing with hp, you shouldn't mix only with one pair anyway so use both
@@mixbustv okay will do, thanks for the reply brođ
best headphones for mixing for 600$? please help
I'd still go with Senns HD600, but I have many Headphones coming in to test if you want to wait
@@mixbustv waiting for sure
Dude: you seem to be on top of your data, - would love to have you on top of me! Was looking for good headphones and then I started to drool. You are very distracting!!! I think I would buy anything youâre pushing!!!
What about just buying a really nice set of headphones in the first place (like Focal Clear MG Pro) and calling it a day. I'm not quite sure what the point is of trying to emulate some other studio or other headphones. Call me Captain Cynical if you'd like, but just because you can sorta hear what it sounds like in Echo Bar studio won't do you a damn bit of good with your own mix. I'm a "gear whore" as much as anybody, but this seems illogical and gimmicky. You're never going to become confident with your mixes if you're constantly changing your monitoring source. Learn...your...gear...and stick with it. My humble opinion.
Hopefully it's obvious to everyone, including Mr Gnozzi, that when I use the word "you" I'm not talking to the host of this video. I'm addressing the folks reading it.
this is funny! you hate mixing on headfones but if we add another layer of digital processing its okay
Who said I hate mixing on headphones? I don't NEED to mix on headphones because I have half mil room and monitoring system. Missed that part?
Sorry but the r70x are better overall, better balance, better for vocals.
"Sorry but the R70X are better" Title of the video: R79X. Makes sense lol also a pair of headphones better for vocals, that's a first đ
@@mixbustv reason im saying this cause some people think the HD600 are better. but from what i hear is they are good for sound stage.
I have the hd600 and they've been my absolute fav headphones for over a decade. Headphones are like monitors, at a certain (quality) point, it's a matter of preference. We all hear differently