How the 2010 Padres Changed Baseball for a Decade
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- čas přidán 26. 11. 2021
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The 2010s were a fun decade for baseball that produced a lot of history. This decade was shaped by the 2010 Padres of all teams...go figure.
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Adrian Gonzalez being traded was a sad day, but the new #23 is pretty good too
I mean I guess he's ok
Yeah he’s alright, idk if we can call him good yet
Bro I love your videos
man he was my favorite player growing up
Ago was gold glove caliber, silver slugger caliber, and he wss a hometown kid!
Butterfly Effect Idea: The Indians trading Bartolo Colon to Montreal led the Nats to win the World Series in 2019.
In 2002, the threat of relocation was hanging over the Expos. GM Omar Manya, thinking this was their last chance to make a run, sent their top prospects to Cleveland for ace Bartolo Colon. While he played well, the Expos fell short of a playoff berth. Well not only would the team stay alive a couple more years before moving to DC, those prospects traded became stars Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips.
The trade ultimately forced the Nats to blow it up not too long after entering the league. If they dont make that trade, they aren't able to be bad enough to land guys like Strausburg or Rendon, hence, no 2019 championship.
Considering the career of Cliff Lee and the Colon trade tree there's a lot of baseball history to be gleaned and I'm finding out it connects to the 2021 Braves altho not pure butterfly.
Phillies wanted Halladay instead of Lee and after Cleveland traded Lee to them they traded him away and got Halladay from Toronto and sent a package that included D'arnaud who then was traded with Thor to the Mets and signed with Atlanta as a FA.
Also, the Phillies that year traded for Oswalt and I guess gave up top OF prospects Anthony Gose who's now in Cleveland as a flamethrowing reliever
More proof that 2010 was the single most cursed season for San Diego Sports.
Sometimes these butterfly effect videos are a stretch but this one is pretty good. It's crazy how one surprising season from a team can change so much.
I never knew Kluber was in the Padre's farm system. This only makes me more sad to be a Padres fan. Thats Grandal, Max Fried, Kluber, Trea Turner, Rizzo, and probably many more that we traded away.
Tigers weren’t alone
How could you forget JOE ROSS
Here's hoping Luis Patino doesn't turn into a success story for Tampa Bay.
Doesn’t matter we got tatis. We wouldn’t have done shit anyways bc of development team. They would be ruined either way.
Cleveland has often had a way of just winning deals especially with this trade tree. If you look at trade trees by most WAR, the one that Kluber is in is #2 all time, mainly bc the guys they traded away have accumulated less than 30 WAR.
It's the same trade lineage where Cleveland got Kenny Lofton, David Justice, Jake Westbrook.
This isn’t even the first time the Padres helped set up the decade for the rest of MLB. They did the same thing in the beginning of the 90s.
In the mid-late 80s, they were super active in Puerto Rico, signing the Alomar brothers, Benito Santiago, Carlos Baerga, Jose Valentin and Alex Cora, among others. Going into 1990, they had all those young studs already producing in San Diego or on the cusp of the majors, along with Tony Gwynn, Andy Benes, Storm Davis and Bib Roberts. Maybe a few other stars, but that’s all I can remember without checking BRef.
For some reason, they then started trading away their young talent, starting with Sandy Alomar and Baerga to Cleveland for Joe Carter and a very old Fred Lynn. Baerga and Alomar would help lead Cleveland back to contention culminating in the ‘95 WS, then Baerga would be shipped to the Mets for Jeff Kent and Jose Vizcaino, who would be swapped to SF for Matt Williams in ‘97.
Williams and Sandy(who had a career year in ‘97) helped lead the Tribe to another WS against Gary Sheffield(more on him in a moment) and the Marlins, thanks in large part to Alomar’s Game 5 walk off home run off Mariano Rivera in the ALDS against the Yankees. Marlins beat Cleveland in 7, then sent their stars all over baseball in their first fire sale.
Speaking of Alomars, the Padres swappped the younger of the two, HOFer Roberto, along with Carter, who they acquired the year before for Sandy and Baerga, to Toronto for Fred McGriff, and Tony Fernandez. That paid almost immediate dividends for the Jays as they would win the AL East the next three years, and win the only two championships in their history in ‘92 and ‘93. They also had help from Tony Fernandez in ‘93, because the Padres gave up on him pretty quickly and sent him to the Mets in ‘93, who flipped him back to Toronto at mid season.
In the ‘91-92 offseason, the Padres traded Jose Valentin, Ricky Bones and Matt Mieske to the Brewers for Gary Sheffield, who had been a bust in Milwaukee but instantly activated Superstar Mode and became an MVP and triple crown candidate in his first Padres season at 24. At this point the Padres had Gwynn, Sheffield, Santiago, McGriff, Benes and Fernandez all in their prime and should have been emerging as a future contender, but chose instead to blow it all up again.
Like I said before, they sent Fernandez to the Mets for Darren Jackson, who was an ok outfielder but he left the next year as a FA. They sent McGriff to the Braves, got nothing in return and watched him help lead ATL to a title in ‘95 and another WS appearance in ‘96( where they lost to the Yanks, in part because of rookie Derek Jeter, who only played that year because Tony Fernandez, who the Yanks had signed was injured.)
They also had lost Santiago in free agency in ‘93 to the expansion Marlins, which really hurt after trading away Sandy Alomar, but at least they had Brad Ausmus and Brian Johnson in their system ( of course they would both be traded away as well.) Anyways, Santiago lent an air of relevancy to the brand new Marlins, which helped the Padres when they decided to trade Sheffield there later in ‘93. Sheff had just signed a big extension in SD after his huge ‘92 season but being buddies with Santiago helped smooth things over for him. At least the Padres landed Trevor Hoffman in that deal which helped them finally make a WS appearance of their own in ‘98 after building up a veteran team through trades and free agency only to immediately blow it up after being swept by the Yankees.
They also traded Andy Benes to Seattle in ‘95 just in time for him to help them in their epic run to their first ever playoff appearance, and only got bust Marc Newfield in return, but somehow managed to flip him to Milwaukee for Greg Vaughn, so that worked out for them.
But somehow they affected the ‘92 and ‘93 World Series by giving the Jays a huge boost, helped both the Braves and Indians in ‘95, the Braves and, somewhat indirectly, the Yankees in ‘96, the Marlins and Braves in ‘97, and finally themselves in ‘98. Not even mentioning all the other 90s and early 00s playoff teams that benefited from former early 90s Padres.
Super long post I know, but something that has fascinated me for awhile.
Ah yes, the early 90's Padres... the Tom Werner years where they absolutely refused to pay money to ballplayers. It's only been under this new Fowler/Seidler ownership group where they've been willing to open the purse-strings, but ever since their inception they had been a team who didn't want to spend. They made a run for it with the '98 World Series team because they needed to convince voters to pass Prop C for a new ballpark, and once it passed they tore everything down again.
The 'some reason' was Tom Werner (now owner of Red Sox) He bought the team to strip its assets, then sell it. He was the 'Genius' who thought having Roseanne singing the National Anthem was a good idea. Hate that guy
@@EhsanVessal Interesting, I never knew the backstory with the owner. Just something I kind of pieced together collecting baseball cards as a kid in the 90s. Just constantly discovering “Damn, this guy came from the Padres, this guy came from the Padres...wtf.” I had never heard of the motivations behind the ‘98 run, pretty sad that both the ‘97 Marlins and ‘98 Padres were essentially petty efforts by their owners to compete for one year for a very specific reason and then immediately dismantled.
Why do the Padres always seem to be involved, yet never benefit? Life of a Pads fan.
I can see something similar happening with the Cubs 11 game losing streak in 2021, and how that made them trade all of their core players
That’s exactly what I was thinking! I remember looking at the prospect haul after the trade deadline, and wondering if I was looking at the Cubs next World Series team.
Or other team’s WS champs
I remember when the 2010 Giants overtook the Padres, clinch the NL West and won the title. Good old days back in 5th grade.
Thanks to that a decade of pain came, bad times in 1st grade
Now there’s no MLB at all, bad times in what would be 11th grade
Good ol days 😌
@@bayareasportsfan04 the days are still good for us!
@@trevorpbarton Yeah they're starting to get good again
I love baseball so much
same
Amen brother. It's a sanctuary from the problems of the world.
Same. Just hope the lockout is short
This was our last good year for a solid decade…truly heartbreaking
I was a pretty big padres fan up until 2011, used to watch every game. The key moments in the 2010 season are the Giants swooping Cody Riley and the 10 game losing streak. Riley balled from the get-go with the Giants so he probably could have helped the Padres avoid the 10 game skid.
As far as Ryan Ludwig, he was a good pickup for the Padres, contrary to what this guy said. But he did regress in the last month, so that didn't help. He also forgot to mention Padres had the top bullpen in the league that year.
SRS with the banger content once again. You guys rock!
I didn't remember *why* Cody Ross ended up on my Giants team, but I am glad he did. I like to tell people that the 2010 Padres were a big reason why the Giants won the World Series. The Padres *TORTURED* the Giants all season long. After the Giants survived the Padres, the pressure of post season was a cake walk. The Giants ring in 2012 was nuts when you consider how many times they were on the brink in the playoffs. Without the 2010 ring, I don't think they have the confidence to pull it off. Other butteryfly effects were Randy Johnson taking Jonathon Sanchez and Matt Cain under his wing. Sanchez fulfilled his promise in the 2010 regular season and Matt Cain was a MONSTER in the playoffs with one earned run in 21.1 innings.
idea: how the braves signing Hank Aaron from the Indianapolis Clowns in 1952 led to a world series win in 2021
from the time he retired, Hank was involved in the front office dealings of the team, including moves such as adding Brian Snitker to the coaching staff in the 70's/80's and hiring Bobby Cox twice. Snit would manage some big guys in the minors, but by the time Freddie came up he was third base coach for the big league club and learning directly from Bobby. At the same time, Bobby's connection with Chipper kept him in Atlanta, while Chipper's connection to and influence on Freddie is likely a big reason he signed the massive contract in 2014. Freddie's contract ended up being undervalue, even if it was fair at the time of signing, which along with the low $ contracts for Ronald and Ozzie, let the braves sign players like Charlie Morton and take on contracts of guys like Jorge Soler and Joc Pederson and Eddie Rosario, all of whom had a massive hand in the Braves winning the WS.
whew that was a lot.
if you're wondering what my pfp is it's Jorge on Halloween
Life is pain for Padres fans. And I’m ready to get hurt again.
i feel that one, bro
Smh born in 93 wasn't old enough to enjoy 98 can't ever call a padre fan a bandwagoner been through hell for 25 years
I’ve been saying it for a long time. San Diego is a cursed sports city. Our teams leave, our cities icons die early, most former players do better for other teams, our teams are bad 60% and the 40% of the time our teams are/were good, we find a way to blow it at the end. Even San Diego State falls victim to it. As great as our basketball program is, we have never made it past the Sweet Sixteen and our greatest team ever never even got to play in the NCAA tournament
Cool.. you kind of highlighted a player I suggested in your last one of these. Good stuff.
Great job putting this together.
You could easily do a video like this on the Mariners with A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar and then having Ortiz in their farm at the same time lol the spread of these guys overall definitely changed Baseball too
You know, I was at the Padres home opener in 2010, visiting the city from Massachusetts for a couple of weeks. Tickets were so damn cheap, but that place was cool as hell.
Bobby Bonilla deal butterfly effect.
This freed up money for the Mets to sign Mike Hampton, leading to a Mets NLCS.
The Mets sent Octavio Dotel back to Houston in that deal. He turned into a high quality reliever, and was eventually a part of a package that brought Carlos Beltran to Houston. Beltran, of course, had one of the best postseasons ever with Houston, parlaying into a big contract with...who else...the Mets.
Following that timeline a bit further, Beltran was, years later, traded for Zack Wheeler to the Giants. Could the Giants have used 2021 Wheeler to get past the Dodgers this past fall?
Anyway, the Mets saw Hampton walk in free agency to Colorado, which gave them a compensation pick, that turned into David Wright.
Hampton, two years later, is packaged with Juan Pierre to Florida (although Hampton is then traded again to Atlanta two days later). Meanwhile, Pierre is a key asset in Florida's 2003 WS run.
Going back to the Mets, David Wright surges through the minors, leading to Ty Wigginton being traded to Pittsburgh. He was packaged to the Pirates along with Jose Bautista.
Bautista is eventually traded to the Blue Jays. Leading to the bat flip and getting punched in the face by Rougned Odor.
Bobby Bonilla got Jose Bautista punched in the face.
As an ex-Padres season tix guy, the Pads screwed the pooch with AGon. A hometown Mexican American kid from Eastlake! You can't make that work? Cmon! He could've been the next Tony Gwynn!
Good job mentioning Adrian Beltre's HoF plaque. People don't realize by many numbers he's either the fifth or third best third baseman ever. Some idiot will mess up the voting and leave him off though I'm sure.
I know one of the players that was on that team, him and my uncle were teammates in HS and college
In my opinion srs’s butterfly effect series is my favorite series is my favorite in all of youtube
Great video
The Dodgers trading Milton Bradley for double A prospect Andrea Eithier led to the dodgers winning the NL West for 8 straight seasons
Very cool butterfly effect for me to watch as a diehard Red Sox fan who as a kid got both Theo Epstein and Anthony Rizzo’s autographs in the same day when the Padres were playing at Fenway. Ever since then I’ve always wanted to try and have Adrian Gonzalez sign the ball too, I think that would be really special.
A butterfly flaps its' wings in San Diego in 2010, the Cubs win the World Series in 2016.
Or maybe the Dodgers offense delivers in some NLCS, I vividly remember Adrian Gonzalez always chasing the first pitch, no matter how bad, making weak contact and producing an easy groundout.
Cody Ross, the Carlsbad, New Mexico product. Same high school I went to
Joe Mauer is arguably the truest Mr. Twin of the Twins organization, ever. But I feel like there was A LOT that happened behind the scenes to make sure he landed with the club out of high school. I don't have any evidence, it's just a hunch, but it's based on the fact that it's remarkably rare for any player to get drafted by your home town team and have a legendary career their from start to finish. Perhaps there is less there for a Butterfly Effect, and more of a beautiful baseball story. I'll leave that up to you
Maybe a butterfly effect video is if the Devil Rays never were expanded into the MLB the Padres wouldn’t have Fernando Tatis Jr.. Because in 1999 the Rays finished last in the AL East and would Select James Shields in the 2000 draft.
Can u make a video of all the prospect trades of the St. Louis Cardinals from 2015-2019 like Luke Voit and Randy Arozarana and the effect that they have on their new clubs aswell as the cardinals and what they got back for them? Btw love the vids!
One thing. Mike Olt would've never developed even with the Rangers. He developed a eye sight problem that affected his hitting.
Theirs was a trade in 2011 that the royals would send zack greinke to the Rangers for mike Olt and profar
This stuff just blows my freakin mind
You need to do Elijah moore’s touchdown celebration it has so many different changes in coaching
It's very briefly mentioned but Yonder Alonso ending up at the Padres eventually leads to Manny Machado becoming a Padre. Yonder, Manny's brother-in-law and mentor, solidified the deal. Part 2 of this video coming in 2022 🤞🤞🤞
Love the butterfly effect
astros drafting mark appel over KB in '13 and brady aiken not signing in '14 leading to bregman getting drafted will always be so intriguing to me. weird how it all played out
Man, Cody Ross and Pat Burrell are names I haven't heard in a long while
Is Detroit tigers having 4 what would end up being cy young winners a good video
Us Giants fans appreciate them choking that year
I think this is a stretch, but I’m just gonna throw it out that maybe the 2017 Astros Cheating scandal lead to the Dodgers winning the 2020 World Series. Astros manager in 2017, A.J Hinch, wanted another title but on another team, so he went to Boston, in a playoff series, he used apple watches to lead his team to the World Series, where again, the dodgers were defeated. After 2019, Red Sox superstar Mookie Betts and pitcher David Price were at the end of their contracts, and a team interested in them were the Dodgers. This all leads up to game 7 of the 2020 NLCS, where Mookie Betts robs Freddie Freeman of a Home Run. The Dodgers would end up winning the game 4-3, but if the home run got over the fence, the Braves would start a momentum shift. The Dodgers would end up winning the World Series.
This might not be completely accurate, I just thought it needed to be said somewhere.
Both rings were *s
You mention the effect on the Red Sox 2018 Championship, but skipped the more immediate effect-the 2012 trade didn’t just bring the Sox Brock Holt, it freed up a TON of money that they were able to spend on a number of key short term deals for people who contributed the very next year in the Sox’s surprise 2013 World Series win.
As much as it would pain me, butterfly effect of the prospects the Mariners traded and veterans they traded or didn't resign from the mid 90's to mid 2000's would be interesting, and sad for all us mariner fans
Could this possibly be compared to the 2021 giants ? Guess we'll know in 10 years.
As a boston fan we don’t speak about the crawford years
Padres started the decade disappointing their fans & then started the next decade disappointing their fans
No we started with crazy excitement last year and the first half of this year was so fun to watch
as a lifelong padres fan, I am not disappointed in them rn. Obviously it sucks that we missed the playoffs, but Im happy that we were in contention for most of the season and that I actually look forward to watching the team play
SD sports curse
Things always seem to backfire for the Padres no matter what.
Love how two “Rickeys” are part of this story.
Padres are the pro of getting the short end of the stick.
How Anthony Carter’s agent being late in accepting the Miami Heat’s $4.1 million player option before the 2003-04 season led to up to 11 subsequent NBA championships. That’s what this video reminds me of. Here’s the list:
2005-06 Miami Heat
2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers
2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers
2010-11 Dallas Mavericks
2011-12 Miami Heat
2012-13 Miami Heat
2013-14 San Antonio Spurs
2015-16 Cleveland Cavaliers
2016-17 Golden State Warriors
2017-18 Golden State Warriors
2019-20 Los Angeles Lakers
Your forgot about the warriors 2014-15 championship team and the 2018-19 raptors
such reaches
butterfly effect idea: harper leaves the nats and then they win the world series the next year
Wil Meyers/ Tre Turner/ Steven Souza
Mark Teixeira signing with the Yankees! 👀
How Erick Gagne going to the brewers lead to the dodgers winning the World Series In 2020
Padres were just to cheap to sign a long term contract with Adrian, a San Diego born all star. One that could of been a corner stone for another 10 yrs to build around.
Even dumber for trading Rizzo after less than 1 season.
I just figured out that the Red Sox trading Anthony Rizzo led to Max Scherzer on the Dodgers
2022 WS matchup
Was so sad when agon was traded
the 2017 season was the Dodgers best season while the 2020 World Series was our best World Series in the 2010s. Even though the Dodgers had more wins in 2019, they performed better in 2017 while competing with the Dbacks and Rockies for the division. Two teams who would be in the WC game. 2019 had no competition so that 106 win season wasn't better than the 104 win 2017 season.
2020 season would’ve had won 116 games, according to their win pct, if only there was a full season.
If Oscar taveras never killer himself then the Cardinals don’t trade Shelby Miller, they never acquire Jason heyward and maybe goes elsewhere (or Cubs 2016 idk) and the Braves never deal Shelby for Swanson or win the WS
anything milwaukee brewers!
Butterfly effect: the Padres wouldn’t be as successful as they are without the Rays trading James Shields
Any former Dbacks player
You probably should've done a video on how the 2010 Giants changed baseball. Closest thing to a dynasty we've seen in a while. Unfortunately baseball is now in the toilet. No contact on the bases anywhere and the universal DH are helping to ruin the National Pastime.
How the 1994 strike led to the Washington Nationals long term success.
Next your gonna tell me how we traded away Trea Turner and he won a WS too right lol 😂 Padres got so many times where they trade away someone and they go on to with a championship it’s expected
How Steven Matz and his agent blowing off the Mets won the Mets a World Series
2022 Baltimore orioles
Anyone ever told you you sound 90% like MatPat?
John Moores having to sell the team and selling to Jeff Moorad was far more impactful to that 10 yrs of futility than anything you covered.
Bud Selig allowing an underfunded player agent to buy a team on a 5 yr payment plan only to pull the plug on yr 4 giving the team back to Moores so he could cash in a second time and leave the franchise saddled in debt and pilfering a third of their new TV deal. Way to go Bud.
But thank you for documenting the disaster Jed Hoyer left behind only to have Jeff Moorad purge him for his boy Josh Byrnes for the AZ days to continue the downward spiral.
Hoyer and Brynes continuing the atrocious draft history of Grady Fusson and Kevin Towers shares some responsibility as well. But sure, tagging it on Kluber, and Rizzo is a fresh take.
Adrian Gonzalez was one of the few things done right as he went on to destroy two WS caliber teams being the tool he was.
Seeing another padre wearing 23 is weird now
Spite? It's called strategy and good front office management taking Ross so the Padre's couldn't strength their roster. You make it sound, in fact you said, it was because the Giants did it because they hated the other team vs trying to catch their competition....
The Delmon Young trade all the way to todays rays
Maybe but a butterfly affect on how the dbacks winning the world series changed their team for the worst? (Not really a baseball fan)
Cody Ross? You mean Cody Fucking Ross
Just know manny machado makes more then Fernando tatis each year
Padres definition of a 'dynasty' is a Wild Card loss. Then sell off the stars.
Hyper ball ich
PEPE SILVIA
so depressing
The narrative of this video is a space jam reach.
joe mother
I think the Padres repeated history...
First🙏
rhnynh
Abo
Padres have never been great
as a padres fans since a kid you're right. It feels like whenever we make playoffs we are just "good enough" hopefully we can change that narrative soon :(
i would say they were great in the 90s, excluding '93 and '94
Hate Cody Ross
Common Padres L
Carl Crawford is one of the most overrated players in recent memory.
Dodgers own the Madres
is that true tho, they have the same amount of REAL WS rings in the past 30 years