M. Salaciak on the ARP 2600 | Red Bull Music Academy
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- The ARP 2600 is one of the most incredible analog synthesizers ever created. During the 2016 Red Bull Music Academy, we asked studio team member M. Salaciak to shows us how the semi-modular monophonic synthesizer works.
TOPICS:
0:05 - Intro / History
1:20 - Using the ARP 2600 with a keyboard
3:00 - Internal patches
4:29 - VCO1
6:04 - VCO2
10:00 - VCO3
10:45 - ADSR
14:53 - VCA, VCF, mixer and reverb
18:49 - Ring modulator
20:15 - Sample and hold
24:52 - Voltage processor
26:43 - Electronic switch
28:17 - Using the ARP 2600 with a sequencer
40:20 - Using the ARP 2600 with an 808
1:00:17 - Using the ARP 2600 with a guitar
1:06:20 - Using the ARP 2600 with a microphone
1:11:08 - Read the manual
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Just bought a new Behringer 2600, and could not be happier.
I grew up in the 60s-70s lusting for one of these.
Finally got my hands on one, and it has surpassed my expectations.
Then new one from Behringer has a lot of nice added features too.
Love ARP and really cool synth lesson theory! Thks M. Salaciak
8:53 every girlfriend ever.
Graphene Just died.
lmfao 😂😂😂
Best comment ever.
nice! - especially the 808 processing which brings it to another level. Industrial Funk!
Cool demo. It bears mentioning that the re-released Korg ARP Odyssey is just a scaled down version of the 2600 - so you can actually get a huge variety of 2600-ish sounds from an Odyssey, the main difference being that the Odyssey has only two oscillators, and only sawtooth and pulse waveforms (although pulse width is adjustable on both). Considering the price of the 2600 and the rarity of such, the $600 ARP Odyssey module is a steal. Two of them would surpass a 2600 in many ways. Many of the patch points on the 2600 became switches on the Odyssey instead of patch points, which made it more convenient for live performance use. I'm a huge cheerleader for the Odyssey because I think it's re-release has been largely overlooked by the synth community - and it's a sad thing because it's a monster synth if you spend some time digging into it, just like the 2600 before it. So, if you liked what you heard on this video and can't afford $4000 for a used 2600, go for one or two Odyssey modules. You won't be disappointed!
Bill Vincent agreed. I have the Korg arp. Don't mind the mini keys, but the MIDI spec is bad. No pitch or modulation over MIDI. Thank God the module version fixes this, as the sound is all there.
I have the Korg Arp Odyssey and I'm currently borrowing a Behringer 2600 and my plan is to just buy a 2600 oscillator module for the sine wave because that's the main thing I feel like I'm missing with the Odyssey.
love this series
The guy at 15:49
amazing. best thing is i will try a few of his tricks on my 2600 tomorrow. the exact one he has but with the better keyboard!
Lovebirds Videos thanks for letting us all know that 😂
Thanks for sharing.
Very helpful demo to get a good insight what this classic is able to do. So now that @beringer is really comitted to release a "barp 2600" this comes in handy to decide if this monster is the right one for your personal needs. Thanks M. Salaciak, great demo!
Just bought the Behringer 2600 for $650, and could not be happier. Brand new 2600 with some cool new features, not available on the original.
Is that possibly one of the earliest Tom Oberheim mods which supplied the duophonic function?
And, no oscillator sync? How is that missing from the 2600 but not the Odyssey?
Very cool demo for some patch ideas. There is nothing better out there about the arp2600!
I think that the Arp 2600 it's not only a Synthesizer but an amazing drum machine...👍🏻
Redbull should do a Studio Science: E-mu SP1200 with Pete Rock and Lewis Parker
Thanks!
Nice Demo Matt, the 3620 kybd offers much more, I was one of the lucky ones, when I ordered mine I was expecting the 3604 kybd and much to my surprise received the 3620 kybd, love it, your right it is kind of basic and straight forward, but looks intimidating.
I want to buy an fx pedal for my Arp. an analog delay or analog reverb. I can only afford one. What would you pick? :)
Affordable go for Boss RV6, expensive go to Strymon delay or reverb and be amazed.
An envelope follower is not the same thing as a pitch-to-voltage converter. It produces a voltage proportional to the input level of a signal, not one derived from its frequency. No wonder he had trouble getting it to work!
I totally TOTALLY get lost when he says "...this guy..." (Pulling my hair out😱😱😱😱)
Thanks I hate it too. Maths videos too when they call the numbers "guys". It isn't cute, it's just annoying.
Welp…guess you guys’ll hafta find another way to learn then ey
This guy is really cool right
Amazing machine and Man Machine, awsome 🎚️🎛️🎚️🎛️🎚️🎛️
I have the MatrixBrute. My plan was to connect my guitar and experiment with it. Now that I saw it here, I'm going to really do it.
I'll trade my Casio keyboard for your Matrix Brute. It's analog 😃🥺
Well done. A lot of whiners here but I Thought this was excellent. Thxs for posting. :)
I think a lot of comments are a bit harsh. The description says it is meant to show how the ARP works. Imo it mostly a demo of how it works, not really an explanation. I do know some things about synths and then it is nice. Main problem is that the camera continually is to late in following the hand of the presenter, so there is a time lag between what he says and what you see.
For example, at 10:38 the names of the sliders are not in the image.
The korg re-release looks nice and shiny
@@holygeneration7 Just bought the Behringer 2600 for $650, and could not be happier. Brand new 2600 with some cool new features, not available on the original.
@@holygeneration7 Yes indeed.
It can be very musical, but also fun to explore strange sounds, with all the interesting modules it has in it.
It’s a fun musical puzzle :-)
8:30 why are you plugging an output into an output? Won't that make things go bang?
Yup, you shouldnt be doing that but these are pretty robust and ive never heard of anyone making their 2600 go boom so I wouldnt worry, but dont do it. But dont worry.
50:20 - Isn't that KITT's sound from NightRider, minuse the beat?!
At 8:30 the presenter plugs VCO1 square wave out into VCO2 pulse out. I think he meant to plug VCO1 into VCO2 pulse wave modulation input in the CV control section underneath. Otherwise what is happening is that the two audio rate VCOs are being output on the same bus.
Overall, a nice demonstration of some of the 2600s features.
Wouldnt taking an output and putting it in another output “break” something?
where do you select the patches
lol!
You have to load them via sysex
Nice
how many patches you can store?
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Rishabh Rajan hi, bad joke. I like your videos Rishabh.
Thanks!
haha. You're right.
"Music Academy" has out of phase audio
it's the reverb of the arp .. korg 2600 same problem. behringer 2600
digital reverb no phase issues there.
It is just the sound of his voice sounding slightly different as he faces different directions. The mic is on his collar...
I don't have this issue on my Korg ARP 2600 M @@baboys8349
Hi (thats really cool), today I'm going to demonstrate the ARP 2600 (its gonna be cool alright). So you have 3 oscillators (really cool)
excellent presentation of a wonderful instrument!
nice
47:30 damn what a huge sound.
This is why analog decks are just so useful. It's not that you can't access these things on a digital unit, it's that you've got everything, "exploded" at a glance. Patching in digital sequencers is still useful but I'd still rather patch them but combine that with the numerous manual controls.
It's ironic seeing someone use the 2600 the way it was intended: as an educational tool
This guy is fantastic, great stuff RBMA
I really would like to work for Red Bull Music....in France...!..I like this company.They really mad something for youth,not only money for mmoney ....and thats cool.
i doubt i'll ever get my hands on a real Arp 2600
i love my Arturia Arp 2600 V ;)
artao5 that should work about 5 years.
You'll have a chance soon with the Behringer Arp 2600 clone....
Lee Mearns even better .... the korg resissue
Quite hard to stand the extreme static flanger sound (short delay) in the audio throughout this video... :-S
In your mind . The sound changes depending on which way he faces because the mic is on his collar. There is no particular flanging going on. It just is the sound changing slightly due to where he is facing...
In my text:
The annoying short delay is like a STATIC (i.e., not changing) flanger sound effect. Not a flanger DEVICE involved. :-)
I’ll get my behringer 2600 for sure. And for $150 I get a cheap sequencer that is also anTD3.
highly recommend a Behringer 960 sequencer. 3 rows of CV for 3 oscillators ;-)
Not bad! I think the best overal coverage of the 2600 for someone just starting out is probably the video by Perfect Circuit.
1:00:00 Guitar processing is cool - the world's most expensive auto-wah pedal :-)
Look at the mark doty series, much more in depth - czcams.com/play/PL389EAEF3573B94F0.html
Sounds like the sounds from Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory at 4:53, the scene where they shrunk the chocolate bar and that little boy thru the tv
I got the warm washed korg version.
I share the opinions of others in these post. What is the level of knowledge of that audience? Is it necessary to explain what is "attack and decay" during these presentations? This means that it is a very very low level, so many of the interesting functions and the experimental results would be a lost in time OR its a show-off video to promote the idea of "famous EDM artist must have expensive toys like the ARP".
Sounds like my Odyssey.
Not a great presentation.
I hear Two Lone Swordsmen
Jive Talkin
Beautiful synth, great camera work, crummy lecturer.
Nice YT channel !
I feel 'cool' is overused here
cool!
12:30 literally the worst explanation of an ADSR I have ever heard. 🤣
I was waiting for him to get a decent sound out, he never did, what a shame a professional musician didn’t do the demo. In the right hands the students might have got something worth while from this instrument.
This guy really doesn't know what he's talking about. At 12:25 he says time constraints. I think he means time constants. At 36:15 he says the early ARP Odyssey's filters don't self-oscillate. *All* ARP Odysseys had filters that self-oscillate.
;-) you should hear my ARP2500 screaming...
I wonder if anyone sitting there in his audience is sitting there like im sitting behind my computer enjoying the presentation but not really following a lot of the terminology. Looking at you 26:09
the 2600 is a true masterpiece, but learning it isn't possible without a fundamental Physics Of Sound course or several tutorials in modular synthesis. David Bowie's & Pete Townshend's secret weapon...
I sold all my synths to pay for my house. Miss the 2600 the most, I think. Adulting is hard.
i'd sell a house to keep my synths. to each his own haha
Mod Grip It’s back newer and better lol
:( ,thats so true . i think behringer is a choice
drinking game: drink every time the guy ends up in ringmod or fm when showing a feature
He keeps on saying 'normalisations' - He just means 'connections'.
Plugging a patch lead in will break the connection that is shown and allow you to connect in something else.
in synthesizer parlance, something being connected in the circuit until you patch into a patch point is being 'normalled'.
He only plays the black notes - what that means is he cant _actually_ play at all.
Daz Boot one day he will learn it works with the whites too lol
What he loses by only playing 5/12ths he’s got covered by envelope followers.
i can do what ever want...
40:50 The 808 processing is the best bit of this demo (it really gets things moving),. The rest isn't that good - not structured well-enough for beginners and not enough good stuff for people who already know analogue synthesis and just want to hear the 2600’s own cool sounds.
He must be a damn good producer because he sure can’t reach.
8:30 mate what the fuck are you doing?
No disrespect... but, so many missed opportunities to make the 2600 shine and understandable for non tekkies, imho.
I wish he knew what he was doing 🤔
Reverb phase issue. big fault of arp.
72 mins of sounds from a underwater helicopter for guys with beards.
what are you folically challenged?
yeah.awesome.
RBMA tries to censor opinions, and well reasoned commenting. How interesting!
I could have never believed how uninteresting and passe' Analog Synthesizers could have become, when I first got acquainted with em' first hand about 18 years ago.
It's like every ex-VST producer gets a little bit of money and acquires a "Legendary" synth (insert your Model D's Arp 2600's, Oberheim OB-X's, System 100's, etc...) and there are workshops and seminars where these guys (who could not btw play a keyboard to save their life) "demonstrate" these said instruments, while actually not saying or demonstrating really nothing at all.
People have got too comfortable. The music has got too comfortable. Over saturation happened. I can't believe how yawn inducing presentations can be given to instruments as fundamentally exciting as these. And there's this funny thing called Internet nowadays, where every kid on the block can study these very basic principles anyway, in the span of 10 minutes.
One asks the question; what is the point of this?
I agree. These millennial upstart 'producers' stumble upon a technology that's 40 years before their time and suddenly proclaim to the world "Wow folks, this is the real deal..!" as if nobody before had utilized them and they are making this fantastic unique discovery. Like the twenty-something self-proclaimed 'Pro Tools Gurus' asking around trying to suss out where they can find some vintage tube mics. Do they really think people don't know the value of these and are just going to hand them over to you for cheap? How stupid can you possibly be?
@Patrick Linnane I don't know if the Quadra ever saw the light of day.
R&D for the ARP Avatar basically put the company in shambles. The technology just wasn't there yet. I also hear that they couldn't keep up on customer repairs so out of business they went.
@Patrick Linnane The software versions just don't cut it for me. They don't sound right. Also, there is something about a tactile interface that puts the user in direct connection with the instrument that no software emulation can recreate. Fortunately there are 2600 clones out there that are very good and look great. San Pedro Labs for one made a wonderful instrument which is a perfect reproduction of the Grey Meanie with illuminated sliders. Unfortunately they don't stay in production for very long.
no idea but it is killing some of my time here on earth. I don't think that the presentation was as negative as you are making it out to be. I think watching these videos gives me repetition so that when I build patches or tinker with my own synth I can say oh yeah maybe I can get this sound if I do this.
Shut up old people, you're time has come, and you already wasted it, now is our time to shine!
The only thing working in this video is a vintage ARP 2600.
SMH.
This is a good demo for his baked friends at his basement but not at Red Bull Music Academy.
Hard disagree
There was not one usable sound coming out, what a waste
found someone who doesn't know anything about music...
Is he going to try to sell other shit or knowledge on the 2600?
Man... this guy is a really disorganized & fumbly presenter. I didn't find this useful at all.
I'm sure he knows, it's not a complicated concept... but he explained ADSR incorrectly. A lot of filler phrases & ambiguous "this guy" type stuff. Seems nervous.
I called it quits after 12:30
He should start it off with an overview of signal flow. Synthesizer 101.
I SATELLITE
Agreed... & also just calm down a bit. He's obviously anxious.
It's difficult to learn from a teacher who is saying "ummmmm" all the time.
he did a good job showing things not typically explained.
Frank James Bonarrigo
Like which things Frank? :]
i watched parts of it, but i like that he demoed ways of doing FM with filters and interfacing with external gear. Ill watch the whole thing sometime, but he isn't talking about the basics of analog synthesis i n a tedious way like other videos.
This video sounds like it was recorded in a box, Awful..
Moog is cooler
Plenty Wault Officiell May I ask you why? I had a chance to buy either in the early 70s and chose the 2600, both are good but the 2600 has more options. I suspect you really haven't played both, believe me the 2600 with the 3620 kybd is amazing, 40 yrs. later it's still a love affair😉 Check out my first video to hear some of it's diversity.
I have a Microkorg , I love it so much
Oxygene was done using an ARP2600 ;)
Observer Of Life Yes I know JMJ has a couple ARP 2600's and a ARP 2500 as well plus a nice assortment of other synthesizers.
On the original album, from '76, he only used a 2600, the grey face with the Moog filter, that's all he had money for. Also, the 2 EMS synths and the RMI HS. Not sure he even owned the Eminent at the time of recording. He got the 2500 much later on, and also used it on the Oxygene tours.
I feel sorry for anyone in that room condemned to listen to this guy. God, what a horrible presentation.
Alot of valuable information in the presentation.
Yo his audio is trash tf?
This is embarrassing
red bull really should stick to x games 🤦🏻♀️
Is anyone else counting just how many times this annoying guy says "cool"?
this set is so fake looking it makes me not trust him and like i know what hes saying is true..
I could have never believed how uninteresting and passe' Analog Synthesizers could have become, when I first got acquainted with em' first hand about 18 years ago.
It's like every ex-VST producer gets a little bit of money and acquires a "Legendary" synth (insert your Model D's Arp 2600's, Oberheim OB-X's, System 100's, etc...) and there are workshops and seminars where these guys (who could not btw play a keyboard to save their life) "demonstrate" these said instruments, while actually not saying or demonstrating really _nothing at all_.
People have got too comfortable. The music has got too comfortable. Over saturation happened. I can't believe how yawn inducing presentations can be given to instruments as fundamentally exciting as these. And there's this funny thing called Internet nowadays, where every kid on the block can study these very basic principles anyway, in the span of 10 minutes.
One asks the question; what is the point of this?
one of the most depressing things you touch on; how millennials just woke up in a world where they are a given.
I remember how refreshing it was when stereolab kicked it all off when most people were growling to STP and nirvana.
You're probably one of those people that would buy a Korg Kronos and then complain about it because it has too much technology and you don't understand it and then talk about how back in your day synths were easier to use. Now you're bashing newer musicians for using old gear and keeping OLD GEAR alive that could have been lost forgotten and replaced. Know it all old farts like you don't understand that the only reason this gear is relevant is because young people are buying them. So much so that manufacturers are even re-releasing new reissues of the same old synths. Old farts like you aren't helping or buying new gear. You just jabber on about yesteryear and complain about anyone you see using some gear you used back when you still had hair.
You sound like you're bitter that no one asked you to do some masterclass. Truth is these instruments are complex and it's hard to explain to random people that don't even know what it is and make it interesting. Explaining how they work is electrical engineering. Also the skill of using a mono synth isn't in playing a keyboard it's in knowing how to get the sounds out of it. You only get 1 note or 2 notes at best on a duo. These kids today are HEAVY into synths and synths are much cheaper than they were in the 70's and 80's. These kids would run circles around those old artists of your era because they have grown up using synths. While your still mesmerized by VCO's and what not. Perhaps you browse around on youtube and checkout some of the things these millennials are doing with these old classics before running your A-ARP old fart mouth.
wack
So much blah blah about nothing
Get a pro in there
Level of knowledge her is somewhat disappointing 😢
So much cringe here.
This is not how a synthesizer is presented.
First you play, then you explain.