All Aftermarket Game Boy Color -- The Funnyplaying FPGA GBC (FP GBC HW v1.1)
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A Game Boy Color that uses 100% aftermarket parts, even the cart slot (yes, they had custom OEM compatible cart slots made).
Comes with small bezel screen with no power LED cutout or logo but if you insist on having both (there is still no power LED on these console motherboards), you can purchase a replacement screen meant for other kits and use that instead. The replacements do NOT support the "full" screen mode due to the larger bezel but they are otherwise drop-in: www.aliexpress.com/item/32568...
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Game compatibility is mostly hit though there are a few misses. Most games seem to work fine via a specific combination of menu options. Those specific options may require experimentation to find. Original Game Boy games tend to work better on the GB core and newer games tend to work better on the GBC core.
Everdrive and EZ Flash Jr MAY or MAY NOT work, depending on your specific hardware variants and the specific game you're trying to load. It's basically down to luck of the draw. If this is a red flag for you, consider skipping the cart emulator entirely and stick with an Anbernic or Miyoo or similar. You'll have a much more consistent experience. Funnyplaying has stated their intent to make these carts compatible but as of v1.04 firmware on v1.1 hardware, compatibility is STILL hit and miss.
This console ONLY works with game carts. You can not load ROMs and run them directly.
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Hopefully we see a GBA version come out
I had no idea the back case was the special part. This is great. I can just get two cases and put them together.
Great Video, Thanks a lot.
I ordered one from FP, can’t wait for it.
Just ordered my kit. I def would buy a Gameboy Pocket version of this motherboard/and screen just for that form factor. My first GB was a silver pocket and it still feels like home to me.
Thx a lot for the updated info👍
I've had the original hardware version since last October and I love it! I hope they release a Gameboy Pocket version soon because I would buy one immediately!
Im so glad I got the 1.0 with the latest firmware that is stable... Having that nintendo boot logo, I kind of like the red led through my clear shell.. Im happy with everything but the battery size. If they sell 1.1 batteries separately Ill buy one.
Will there be an option to flash later firmware revisions with the original Game Boy/Nintendo logos intact? There's a specific appeal to having it be as authentic as possible that the FPGBC boot screen loses
I love the idea of this product
Not for what it is, but for the idea of what it can become
Integrated game genie, game shark, Integrated everdrive (They can use the space for the IR receiver for a micro sd slot)
This product has the potential to become a better and cheaper Analogue Pocket🤞
And with a price of $90 versus buying a GBC and a backlit screen kit is definitely in the right ballpark
Even if it increases by 10-30 dollars for the functions I just mentioned
I’m not even in the market for one of these with all the GBC’s I own, but even I would consider one of these if it came with all those features. Someone should totally be writing those ideas down.
taking notes! lol, not like I could do anything comparable anytime remotely soon, but been looking into gba hardware design and learning what it takes to program it in assembly/C, and have an fpga dev board on the way. I'm brand new to this though and might take a couple years to have the expertise to do something similar@@xephon3000
It doesn’t have the potential to be better than the Analogue Pocket. It has the potential to be cheaper than the analogue pocket if you only care about GB/GBC. But right now, even just those two cores are so far from the quality of Analogue’s that they have a long way to go.
I got my 1.1 with non working firmware, had to use your files and flash it with the last stable firmware! Will wait for the firmware to get back to working! But this is an awesome console!
I was the same - just had a green screen but flashing the firmware update fixed it! Working perfectly with my everdrive now 👍
Thanks for the new video... I love my FPGBC Cyperpunk theme that I made. I still on version 1117 (Version 0.89 in the menu) cuz I like the OG Nintendo / GBC logo, and I don't see a difference with new firmware, just the logo.
Same, actually downgraded to .89 as it shipped with 1.02
"You have to boot it with a game in otherwise it freezes and the OSD stops working."
OMG THANK YOU LOL. I was testing it and didn't have any carts on hand, and I was sure I'd bricked the damn thing lol. I'll have to test it with carts once I can get all my old ones from home.
At this point the continued use of the tri-wing screws are a statement to the ingenuity of the community. The security measures those screws used to offer have been defeated. What was once a difficult tool to find, now we have tri-wing screwdrivers easily available for next to nothing. We even have easy access to identical tri-wing screws that we use in reproduction parts. Tri-wing screws used to actually offer security due to the rarity of the tools. Now, we've adopted them to such a degree that continuing to use them has become a middle finger to those types of "security" measures. I love it!
Is the integer scaling perfect or is slightly off? Looks great either way?
So something I just noticed with the latest firmware 1.08 on the 1.1 model is that there is no longer a high pitched hiss on lower volume settings. Both the stock firmware and 1.06, had that loud hiss up to half volume.
Literally just received my FPGBC 1.1 in the mail today and put it together. Everything looks great and it went together well, but my left input on the directional pad is not registering. Any advice?
I advise you talk to the seller.
@@makhoI did. And they asked for pictures. I sent them and they said they could see “sweating” around pin 7 of the chip. Asked if I could re solder it. I attempted and now it doesn’t work at all. And unfortunately they are on holiday until the 18th… so essentially I have a brick currently
Is there a bracket I have to open first on the ribbon cable connector? Because I just can't seem to get the ribbon to go in...
This was recorded a few days ago right? 'cause I downloaded from your github on 1/26 which is ironically when this was filmed, and I didn't get the .89 or the 1.04 shown in this video. I downloaded the 2024.1.25 one and I think it had 1.02 at the time. I'm not sure why but on mine I get the Game Boy color logo which I want to keep so I'm hesitant to update to 1.04 lest I lose it.
the files in the repo were always correct, I just had an old file sitting in my downloads folder and used that one by mistake.
hey Makho I have a quick question... I love the funcionality of the 1.06 firmware (everdrive support) but I absolutely cannot stand the new boot logo, is there a way to get the original gameboy color boot animation on 1.06 firmware? I’m just confused about funny playing's design choice for the boot animation, is it just me or does it suck ass?
It's not just you. It sucks ass. It's stupid that they even bother with a proprietary boot logo. Just use the regular GBC one! Clearly they don't care about infringing on any copyright since they're a Chinese company and they literally print "Nintendo" on their 3rd party shells.
Newer versions you can make it the og boot logo with a certain file with one of them
It should be called patched_bootlogo
@makho do you know if FunnyPlaying is planning on adding IR functionality to the FPGBC at some point? I'm guessing that they plan on adding it based on the solder pads for the LEDs and the footprint being present in the solder mask, but I'm curious if you might know a possible timeframe for that feature.
I mean, like I've said, they said they were adding it from the start. That clearly didn't happen. I have no idea what funnyplaying intends to do.
hi, i see v1.06 is out, has flashcart compat changed? and how are everdrives? im specifically looking to be able to play crystal clear (and others!) and i dont really wanna buy something like a burnmaster just to make a working cart. would an everdrive x7 work with crystal clear? im confused with the internal cart clock stuff, im pretty new. thank you :3
full everdrive support from funnyplaying directly, they haven’t said anything about other flash carts though...
Whens the PoFPGBCo vid?
It would be cool if the school even went lower so it could emulate the gameboy colour logo if you wanted it (or the DMG or GBA logo if other cores ever get added)
Question, would the new screen without the logo work with the older funnyplaying Q5 kit work? Those newer screen are bigger and I’d love to have a bigger screen for my GBC
If it's the same Q5 LCD panel, it'll *work,* but the ribbon in your kit won't do the non-integer scaling, so the image will be the same size. You'll also have a bright, colorful bar across the bottom, where the Game Boy Color logo is on the older screen.
Bought this and it says Version 1.11, no instructions were included no idea what firmware I can use. Any ideas?
Great video on the v1.1! Any chance you'll be doing a video on FP's Midnight Trace v2? Been hearing a lot of issues with it and would love to hear your take on it :)
I haven't heard of any issues besides a few DoA units (which also all got replaced from what I heard)
@@makhosounds like I need to test mine. Just got it earlier this week and haven’t tried it out yet. What’s the best way to test it?
@@nightwing179 Put a game on it and play the game.
@@makho I tried several different games that would require different mbc’s and they all worked.
@@nightwing179Then you're probably just fine. All the issues I've seen are from carts that cannot be flashed at all or do not verify after being flashed.
Hey there! I just put together one of these kits and noticed that the only way I can turn the volume up is via the osd. The physical volume knob/wheel does not work when trying to turn the volume up. It will turn down the volume, however. I'm guessing something is wrong with the hardware itself? I updated to the latest firmware and that didn't fix the issue. The problem persists whether headphones are plugged in or not.
Contact the seller.
Hey great video! Thanks, how do I get to the menu for the firmware on the handheld? TY!
The volume jogger is also a button. Press it.
just saw the recent 1.06 update and you have one with a patched bootloader... what's the "different aesthetic"? I'm still on the version that shipped with 1.1 so I could keep the uh... "official" logo, so wondering if its that?
It is the GameBoy logo instead of the funny playing one.
What models of flash carts are you running? None of my chinese bootleg Everdrives want to boot on my 1.1 while they're fine on actual hardware.
Compatibility is based on the specific cart you have, not the model. Some everdrives behave fine, some don't. Since the beginning I've been recommending people not get these for use with flash carts because the compatibility is not guaranteed.
@@makho Oh, no worries, I knew what I was getting myself into. I was just curious and surprised to see so many flash carts running on it with more or less no issues.
Is there a way to get GAME BOY color logo on boot?
Some Updates just work right if you go on the download and click on Raw, then Download it.
The Raw file is a bit bigger (something with 900 kb) and it has not the Update Bug.
Speed I have hear is the best to move it to max and then 2 steps back.
Good to see that the 1.1 hardware can be updated using a mac rather than a windows machine . Does anyone know if it can be updated using a Chromebook?
Could I theoretically get this and use the new OLED screen mod instead of the included Q5 screen?
No, it’s a totally different screen.
I am interested in buying one like it. Do you know how it charges? With any USB-C cable I have a laptop one with a 15w power supply. It's enough?
Should be plenty. Device only pulls max of 5w anyway.
just picked up one of these but i think im running into some issues, after updating the firmware(using v1.1 model) and tweaking and toggling the backlight settings via the system menu on reboot it starts on a funnyplaying screen and its sort of locked there i cant even access the menu any more and not sure what to do.
Put a game in. The console halts otherwise.
Those OSD fonts are horrific! 😅. I think if the flash cart compatibility gets sorted, I'll pull the trigger and buy one! Cool
Yo, this might be a dumb question but how is your Pokemon Red in color?
Game Boy Colors will colorize any game you insert. You can set custom color palettes on boot for original Game Boy games too by holding a specific button combo. gbstudiocentral.com/tips/game-boy-color-modes/
Possibly missed it because I couldn't watch the entire video without distractions - did you notice if they fixed the audio buzzing present on the original revision? That really killed my enjoyment of this thing, assuming they fixed that + the clock speed then I'd probably go ahead and grab another one...
EDIT: lol I just rewatched the end and saw you covered it, bummer.
Hey,
I have an ugly hissing sound on mine too but when I increase or decrease the brightness, the hissing varies. There's none at the extreme brightness settings. Try it.
White lenses also will be available to FPGBC?
I'm unaware of any plans for white lenses
Kirby tilt n tumble isnt working properly on the FPGBC but the fp team has been made aware and are gonna try to patch it on the next firmware update
GoldenOreoos
@@jed1nat the jig is up :0 lol
Not everyone on youtube goes on reddit i just wanted to do PSA
i updated my 1.1 to 1.06 from the 1.04 it shipped with using windows and now it's just a black screen. no matter which firmware i use it won't come off the black screen.
the only difference is if i load on a 140kb update.bin it has no sound or backlight to the screen. if i get the raw 887kb version then it has sound, a backlight, and will play a game i insert but just with a black screen. doing the blind the menu pressing down 9 times thing doesn't help.
idk what to do further besides emailing funnplaying, by chance do you have any idea what i could do?
You should redownload your firmware. There is no 140kb version. It needs to be named "update.bin" before copying.
@@makho i appreciate the reply. Unfortunately I've tried it several times from your github and from funnyplayings site and it doesn't do anything new. Still just get a black screen with sound/backlight/loads game.
The 140KB version comes from your github when I download it from the folder rather than clicking the update and getting the raw. For example, right clicking and saving the update.bin in GWGBC / HVv1_1 / 2024.2.7 gives me 140kb every time.
I'm just gonna email them but thank you
I seem to have bricked my device, a v1.11. Copied your patched v1.08 fw to the device as a drive on my pc, and after copy completed no device reboot occured and now the device is unresponsive! I am sad! Any suggestions?
UPDATE, FIXED! I copied the fw as RAW and the reflash worked. phew!
I'm half-tempted to buy one but as the board is currently on sale then I can only presume that the next iteration is imminent.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Is there a way to change the boot logo?
you can downgrade to version 1117 (Version 0.89 in the menu), it have OG logo for GB/GBC... is the only change, the rest is the same as the new firmware.
I got so pissed I almost threw mine while installing that battery!
After I updated my v1.11 Board, the Console did not boot anymore. I made sure I used the right files for my Board Version (in this case files for v1.1, because there are no files for v1.11) but the moment I copied it over, the console stopped working. The screen and speakers still work, but screen is black and speaker just has low noise. It doesn't boot.
I tried every update to get it back to it's original firmware but the console does not boot anymore. Only black screen and a little static from the speaker. The PC still recognizes the Drive when I plug it in and trun it on, so it is not completely broken.
I'm still waiting on an answer from funnyplaying what it could be or how to solve it.
Is it possible that the Boards v1.11 need separate files for updating, not the files for 1.1? I mean if you update a v1.09 Board with v1.1 FW, it also stops the console from working (after what I read online). I'm very frustrated right now. Maybe someone here had the same problem with a v1.11 Board and knows how to solve it...
V1.11 and V1.1 boards use the same firmware. The behavior you're describing is either caused by flashing the wrong firmware (e.g. for v1.0 boards) or by an incomplete flash. Ensure you're using the proper firmware and try updating from another device. Since you're on v1.1 based hardware, you're not limited to windows devices only for updating.
@@makho Thanks for your reply.
I already solved the problem. 1.11 boards seem to have problems with Mac, at least with my older MacBook Pro. I tried on my Mac and on a newer one and it did not work. Then I tried a friends Windows PC and it worked right away. I'm glad the Board is not damaged and that everything’s working now, including the new Boot Screen. Thanks for that by the way ;)
@@ThaGameBoy How did you solve? I am in the same situation and reflashing with my pc is not working.
I had success by copying the fw in raw.
@@daveyoil I just had to do it on another PC and it worked right away. Great to hear that you solved it too.
Thanks so much for the tips, FP do not do a good job of explaining their products.
I realy like my FPGBC but that speaker buzzing on mute is realy annoying.
I hope they can and will fix it in the future :D
And I hope they don't have to do a 1.2 PCB for that :D
I don't hear it unless I put it up to my ear, lol.
Glad I'm not the only one having a speaker buzzing issue. I can change the buzz noise by changing the backlight setting up or down. It's so loud it's almost unplayable. I even tried another FP speaker with the same buzzing.
Personally, I would like the option to load our own boot rom
im still missing the IR, and also really wish they would opensource the firmware, because i fee like it will still be lacking on its potential if we wait for them to implement stuff... (one exemple is that they say they will implement grid options, but i dont like their grid options, the grid shouldnt be black to emulate gameboy, it should give a "reflector colored" grey impression, it would also solve the loss in brightness, also dont like how they managed the fake "rgb" one)
A lot of potential without being an analogue pocket, but still lacking.
Anyone else having issues with their 1.1? Mine randomly pauses and the speaker sometimes gives odd static.
I got another of these FPGBC from Funny Playing and the speaker didn't work, I tried another spare speaker and same problem, it was the board that came defective. But I contacted them and they send me a new board, problem solved. Maybe your board is having issues, better email the supplier, Funny Playing and RGRS have amazing costumers service.
tried this on my GBC, now it wont turn on
Can you compare the watch with a real GB? the real issue for me is the speed.
If you cannot tell that the speed is off from my video, does it even matter? It's close enough and I'm sure that if I measured a smattering of ORIGINAL GBC units, I'd find plenty of variation there too.
@@makho Yes, if the speed is not correct, for me an fpga does not make sense.
@@naxeras0 But if you can't tell, why does it matter?
@@makhoBecause the whole point of spending money on hardware emulation is accuracy.
Hi, I'm seconding this question. Considering using it for LSDJ. There, speed and playback is a concern because of timing sync and pitch accuracy. Can you measure it against a real GBC?
I know that I'm being 'that guy' rn but I really wish that there was a button LED add on option. Its the only thing holding me back from using this Funny playing kit to replace a bunch of my GBCs and set the OG hardware back to stock for preservation.
I bet their other one fits.. Thats just a guess. I have no idea im an idiot.
Anyone on v1.04 that can confirm whether or not official Everdrive GB X5 works yet?
My x3 works.
My X5 works on hardware v1.1, firmware v1.04.
x7 also works on 1.04
I know my body stopped being very reliable after I hit 25. lol
GBA version is badly needed with Oled screen too.
Modified bootlogo file does not work on V1.11, I tried numerous times but I was only able to update through the normal bootlogo firmwares. Maybe they did a firmware check revision? NVM I downloaded it raw and had no issues.
I want to get this, but I'll wait until they let me do mystery gift on Gold, Silver and Crystal
Me too
your palettes in pokemon are messed up, because pokemon red and blue (and yellow) are NOT gbc-games, they are true gb-games (even tough this gets confused very often due to their colored cartridge shells). these (and especially the donkey kong games) are basically the only true gb games with a non-grey shell (igoring japanese games and things like the gb-camera an rumble-games. some special rules apply there for certain titles). the gbc does heavy pallet-swapping-trickery to give the illusion of more colors when played in a GBC. This is very impressive, but it is still a classic gb-game (beisde that they released some time before the GBC). However, 2nd gen pokemon games (gold and silver but not crystal) ARE indeed so-called "hybrid games" as well as basically every game with a black shell (early ones are remakes of popular titles and share the appendix "DX" in the title).
note on this: there are even some true GBC-games, that can detect, if they are beeing run in a GBA (the two legend of zelda oracle games are the most polular example). the best way to demo this difference on screen like you tried to do is with "legend of zelda - links awakening DX": on a GBC you can enter the special color-dungeon, on a regular GB you cannot. this is a special dungeon where you must solve some color-puzzles as some kind of showpiece in-game content to feature the GBCs capabilities to display color.
I'm guessing they didn't replicate the lookup table the GBC uses to assign palettes to certain games like the GB Pokemon games. Or if they did, they didn't get all the colors right.
By the way, Pokemon Yellow is a hybrid GB-GBC game, except for the Japanese version. The use of color is pretty minimal though, hardly an improvement over playing on Super Game Boy.
I got one... and I am a bit disappointed.
I updated to 1.04, i also have hardware revision 1.1.
What I find frustrating is the big screen. While it's cool to have a bigger screen, I would much rather have
a cool logo at the bottom and a battery indicator on the side than having a weirdly stretched image.
especially on pokemon games, (crystal f.e.) you can see the right eye being weirdly off.
not only that, also the navigation of the OSD menu is crazy... version 1.04 also has an update OSD menu... which looks pretty fucked up tbh.
but fixes compatibility with EverDrive GB Model 17 and fixed the weird funny playing startup logo (i would much rather have the gameboy color logo back, but that's just me)
what i really like about this is the gameboy color colorpalette for normal GB games.
the reason i was interested in the fpga system was because:
A: cheap
B: new manufactured hardware
C: bigger screen
due to the bad way they implemented the bigger screen, I am not interested anymore...
since this fpga system is basically nothing else than a normal GBC... and a normal GBC with an IPS mod is just as good.
while the idea is awesome, the system is definitely at baby shoes level currently.
1. v1.06 firmware fixed the OSD transparency already. You should update if this is a sticking point for you.
2. there's a battery indicator in the OSD and it's infinitely more useful than guestimating charge levels based on LED brightness
3. I already discussed and linked to alternative parts if you prefer having a logo over screen real-estate. Read the video description.
4. The new firmware update also has a patched bootloader version.
5. Even if you don't use the full screen option, the 4x integer scale option is still about 2.6" so that's still larger than the 2.45" stock GBC screen.
do you think a firmware update can fix the super loud audio ?
Plausible.
Having issues w/an Everdrive GB X5. HW 1.1, Firmware 1.08. Glad your video mentioned that, cus nobody else on the internet did. So many reddit threads, CZcams videos, forum posts, all saying Everdrives work no problem. A lesson in doing doing encyclopedia-level research on stuff: make sure you do encyclopedia-level research, don't just trust some people in the retro community. Find videos like these, with people who actually know what they're talking about and do proper testing.
I was tempted to get one of these but with that new boot logo im no longer interested. that looks horrible. would 100% rather the normal boot.
Which one? The one showed at 8:06 or the one showed at 46:21? I really like the second one over the first one.
Or if you’re talking about the Nintendo boot logo, they probably had to change it due to possible copyright infringement.
you can downgrade to version 1117 (Version 0.89 in the menu), it have OG logo for GB/GBC... is the only change, the rest is the same as the new firmware.
boot logo can be changed with firmware updates. They have already said they will release more options soon.
Pokémon red and blue were GB games they were not GBC games.
The original JP release, yeah. International releases were color compatible GB games, much like Gold and Silver.
Pokémon red and blue are regular gb games. They came out before the gbc was even released.
@@bullitt813 It's not like Nintendo was surprised by the release of the GBC.
If you can use the GBC palette selector on boot, it's a GB game. If not, it's a GB compatible GBC game.
be careful of ordering from retro game repair shop, they did not ship me a battery with my kit despite it being listed as an included item
Then just reach out to their customer support and get one sent out to you.
@@RiotSRetro yep first thing I did, waiting for a response
fingers crossed they do the right thing because not using a standard jst connector for the battery makes this more difficult than usual to cook up my own solution
update: they took care of the missing battery and replaced the defective screen I received as well
definitely recommend getting it from retro game repair shop
The problem that I have with all of this is that it's overpriced... With the amount of compatibilty issues right now this should be like $40-50.... Not at the original price that they want for this. I'm going to say the samething about the parts as well. Yes we can get a cheap shell for roughly $10.00 but worry about the plastic cracking.... I would love to get one of the shells from Retro Game Repair Shop and the metal buttons but they are overpricing that stuff as well... Shells that should be $25.00 buttons should be like $10-15.00.... It's kinda insane... Unless you buy all of the cheap parts to keep it under $100.... You are better off getting a Myoo Mini that has better parts and is cheaper...
Wild take, this is very reasonably priced and funnyplaying shells are fine.
I'm in the market for real GBC and can't quite pull the trigger on this kit because the core inaccuracies (poor speed approximations, poor flashcart / game compatibility) are unacceptable. In that regard using a Miyoo Mini or even homebrew emulation on, say, a DS makes more sense than a FPGBC right now. If FunnyPlaying could perhaps look into improving their cores (or look into licensing use of an existing mature GBC core such as the one on MiSTerFPGA / Analogue Pocket) I'll probably jump on it immediately.
@@FattydepositIf I was was starting out again and needed a modded Gameboy/color to play carts etc, the Analogue Pocket is a no brainer.
It’s a very good way to play your physical collection, just picked one up and updated the firmware and all games run well.
Horrible take. It’s like you’ve never sourced parts and modded your own GBC. You obviously have no frame of reference, lil bro.
GBP Sucks, only max 10hrs playtime and bad lcd... GB has at least 30hrs playtime and everyone can buy AA batteries, but not AAA in 90s and if so, they was 10 times pricey than AA