Just a note to add. I contacted Akrapovic and they said the 23-24 end can is the same length. Only difference is the bracket and 2 o2s on the 24s now. I don’t know if they updated it or what, but I can confirm it’s the same now. About to order one for my 23
Man great work! I love that you show results before and after the tune. I have a 2023 mt09 and am wanting to add an SC S1. (with silencer) Only problem I have is I’m American… but living in the Philippines, so I’m not sure you can tune my ECU? 😢 I am perfectly happy with the power as is since we can’t really ride super fast here much. Top of 2-3rd in the twisties at best. Too many stray dogs and scooters! 😂 But lots of cool features you offer. Since you have real world experience with the S1 before tuning, would you say it’s dangerous? Crazy lean or anything? Do you think it would be safe to run with everything else stock and no tune? I’m sure there are tuners here but I honestly don’t know enough about them or speak the local language. Anyways, great work! If I were closer you’d be an easy choice!!
Good stuff! Too loud for me, but sounds nice! Excellent results. I have a Graves titanium system on my 2018 XSR900 and love that exhaust. Sounds great and perfect sound level for me with db insert in. Any idea why Graves seems to be ignoring these newer MT09s and not building a pipe for them?
@@vcyclenut ya it's odd they completely skipped the 2021+ bikes like the MT09 and XSR900. I think my favorite so far for this 2024 bike is the Akrapovic!
I ask them about it about a year ago wanting a Ti exhaust for my 23' MT-09SP. They said its coming but they had other priorities ahead of the 09. I also hit up Seat Concepts for a better saddle, they have them for the 1st & 2nd gen but not the 3rd. They acted like they didn't know it existed. I'm baffled, why are they getting ignored.
@@vcyclenut they really seemed to go hard into the Kawi ZX4RR and even Ninja 500. I thought MT09 was one of the better selling bikes overall, but maybe they have better exhaust sales with the Kawi bikes
@vcyclenut I am installing this exhaust today and will be purchasing your flash this weekend, I’m curious if I need to disconnect the battery before unplugging the o2 sensor and the ecu ?
Thank you! It’s never a bad idea to unplug it before removing the ecu Most people don’t and I’ve never heard of an issue but it can’t hurt I have instructions on how to get the ecu out also www.vcyclenut.com/2021-mt09-garage.html
I mean this in the most respectful way. If removing the tank is above your mechanical level you should take it somewhere. A fuel line can obviously be dangerous Here are the instructions I made to remove the ecu The one for the 21 is on the top www.vcyclenut.com/2021-mt09-garage.html
@@vcyclenut sorry I meant to ask as a general question. I have a black widow 300mm and I want to make it more quiet even with the db killer in. I’m considering wrapping it in Fiberglass matting but not sure how effective it will be or if it will cause any problems
The same system fits if your in the usa. European mt09 have 2 o2 sensors. U.S.A. models have 1. This exhaust has 1 bung www.vcyclenut.com/store/p220/SC_Project_S1%2FCR-T_full_system_2021-23_MT09.html
I did a comparison video to the 21 mt09. I want to wait a bit and I will do a back to back comparison with the 24. I’ve been so busy on development on the 9 I haven’t ridden the 10 since I got it The 24 definitely addresses a lot of what I felt where short comings of the 21 But I don’t want to make an opinion until I ride them back to back.
Weight is huge factor, at least for me, of heat, fuel mileage lol I had a 23’ SP and in traffic it’s a tank to maneuver around. Take it for what it’s worth.
Couple questions Sir, does the gear box feel any better, & how do you rate the Yoshi vs the rest? I don’t want an obnoxiously loud but want clean light weight.
Does the gear box feel any better than what? Before the exhaust? I like the yosh. It’s not as loud as the sc but it is still on the loud side I will be doing full testing with the yosh. I’m just working my way through them.
@@vcyclenutGear box on 23’ vs 24’ models? They said 24’ got updated, I was curious because you had many CP3 versions. Got my 24’ sp last week, just waiting for you to expect out of country ecu mods on single o2 sensor bikes 😊
I've been familiar with exhaust brands since the late 90's. How come so many systems these days have such minimal muffler size? I realize they are rated for "closed course only" but seriously, are they trying to get legislators to ban bikes? Back in the day, systems had large mufflers with big throats, they flowed just fine and produced some of the best deep tones. These days they are raspy and obnoxious and lack good tone, not to mention cost a lot more. Arrow, Hindle, M4, Yoshimura... when/if they become available or fit up to the '24. I appreciate your work and content!
My 24 is weaker than my 21. Smaller airbox is probably the culprit. I have not started messing with the airbox yet. Waiting on my filter and new stock air box lid to mess with see if I can get some of it back.
the arrow really fits that, I have one ordered, just waiting on it from italy . will likely be a few weeks till they get them maid www.arrow.it/en/assembled/1882/Yamaha-MT-09---MT-09-SP-2024
Is it possible to fit the SC Project S1 pipe to the 2024 MT09? I want to get rid of the stock anchor but on their website it says 2021-2023 😢 Thanks for advance.
Yes it will fit I have at least one customer with the s1 mounted on his 24 www.vcyclenut.com/store/p220/SC_Project_S1%2FCR-T_full_system_2021-23_MT09.html
@@vcyclenut was there any problems with the installation that you know of? Isn't there one extra sensor on the 2024 model of the bike? I heard that would be an issue but I dont know, thats why i'm asking.
Just a note to add. I contacted Akrapovic and they said the 23-24 end can is the same length. Only difference is the bracket and 2 o2s on the 24s now. I don’t know if they updated it or what, but I can confirm it’s the same now. About to order one for my 23
Love it, looks so much better than those old school exhausts sticking out from the side 👍
The CP3 is Crazy!!!!!!!❤
Leo Vince, racefit, dominator
Excellent results !! Those numbers will make the bike much much faster everywhere
Man great work! I love that you show results before and after the tune. I have a 2023 mt09 and am wanting to add an SC S1. (with silencer)
Only problem I have is I’m American… but living in the Philippines, so I’m not sure you can tune my ECU? 😢 I am perfectly happy with the power as is since we can’t really ride super fast here much. Top of 2-3rd in the twisties at best. Too many stray dogs and scooters! 😂 But lots of cool features you offer.
Since you have real world experience with the S1 before tuning, would you say it’s dangerous? Crazy lean or anything? Do you think it would be safe to run with everything else stock and no tune?
I’m sure there are tuners here but I honestly don’t know enough about them or speak the local language. Anyways, great work! If I were closer you’d be an easy choice!!
No. It would not hurt it
Good stuff! Too loud for me, but sounds nice! Excellent results. I have a Graves titanium system on my 2018 XSR900 and love that exhaust. Sounds great and perfect sound level for me with db insert in. Any idea why Graves seems to be ignoring these newer MT09s and not building a pipe for them?
I wish he would build a system for this platform, I do not know why he hasnt
@@vcyclenut ya it's odd they completely skipped the 2021+ bikes like the MT09 and XSR900. I think my favorite so far for this 2024 bike is the Akrapovic!
I ask them about it about a year ago wanting a Ti exhaust for my 23' MT-09SP. They said its coming but they had other priorities ahead of the 09. I also hit up Seat Concepts for a better saddle, they have them for the 1st & 2nd gen but not the 3rd. They acted like they didn't know it existed. I'm baffled, why are they getting ignored.
These companies are small with limited resources. They put the time into parts development they feel will give them the best return on investment
@@vcyclenut they really seemed to go hard into the Kawi ZX4RR and even Ninja 500. I thought MT09 was one of the better selling bikes overall, but maybe they have better exhaust sales with the Kawi bikes
Do u have 2 o2 sensors? Or are u from America?
Merica baby!
@vcyclenut I am installing this exhaust today and will be purchasing your flash this weekend, I’m curious if I need to disconnect the battery before unplugging the o2 sensor and the ecu ?
Thank you!
It’s never a bad idea to unplug it before removing the ecu
Most people don’t and I’ve never heard of an issue but it can’t hurt
I have instructions on how to get the ecu out also
www.vcyclenut.com/2021-mt09-garage.html
@@vcyclenutI am having trouble with the ecu running into the fuel line when trying to pull it out, any suggestions? - 2023 mt09
I mean this in the most respectful way. If removing the tank is above your mechanical level you should take it somewhere. A fuel line can obviously be dangerous
Here are the instructions I made to remove the ecu
The one for the 21 is on the top
www.vcyclenut.com/2021-mt09-garage.html
@@vcyclenutgot it figured out thank you! Ecu will ship tomorrow
Hey David would you recommend wrapping the db killer in fiberglass matting to dampen the sound and potentially make it a deeper tone too?
there is no db killer on this exhaust
@@vcyclenut sorry I meant to ask as a general question. I have a black widow 300mm and I want to make it more quiet even with the db killer in. I’m considering wrapping it in Fiberglass matting but not sure how effective it will be or if it will cause any problems
No worries. I’ve never tried that. I don’t think there is room on most db killers to wrap them.
Did you block off the ais system?
There is no ais system on the gen 3 or gen 4 mt09
Is this a specific 2024 exhaust or does the 2023 fit? Been wanting one for my 24 but website doesn’t specify
The same system fits if your in the usa. European mt09 have 2 o2 sensors. U.S.A. models have 1. This exhaust has 1 bung
www.vcyclenut.com/store/p220/SC_Project_S1%2FCR-T_full_system_2021-23_MT09.html
Out of curioisity... What made your get a MT09 instead of MT10?
I have both.
@@vcyclenut which one is more fun to ride in your opinion ?
I did a comparison video to the 21 mt09. I want to wait a bit and I will do a back to back comparison with the 24. I’ve been so busy on development on the 9 I haven’t ridden the 10 since I got it
The 24 definitely addresses a lot of what I felt where short comings of the 21
But I don’t want to make an opinion until I ride them back to back.
Weight is huge factor, at least for me, of heat, fuel mileage lol
I had a 23’ SP and in traffic it’s a tank to maneuver around.
Take it for what it’s worth.
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve what do you have now?
Couple questions Sir, does the gear box feel any better, & how do you rate the Yoshi vs the rest?
I don’t want an obnoxiously loud but want clean light weight.
Does the gear box feel any better than what? Before the exhaust?
I like the yosh. It’s not as loud as the sc but it is still on the loud side
I will be doing full testing with the yosh. I’m just working my way through them.
@@vcyclenutGear box on 23’ vs 24’ models?
They said 24’ got updated, I was curious because you had many CP3 versions.
Got my 24’ sp last week, just waiting for you to expect out of country ecu mods on single o2 sensor bikes 😊
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve I don’t really notice any difference tbh.
I’m testing the yoshimura now
Is it necessary to flash when running the SC exhaust? Will it cause damage?
It won’t blow up without a flash but it won’t run great without it either
I've been familiar with exhaust brands since the late 90's.
How come so many systems these days have such minimal muffler size? I realize they are rated for "closed course only" but seriously, are they trying to get legislators to ban bikes?
Back in the day, systems had large mufflers with big throats, they flowed just fine and produced some of the best deep tones. These days they are raspy and obnoxious and lack good tone, not to mention cost a lot more.
Arrow, Hindle, M4, Yoshimura... when/if they become available or fit up to the '24.
I appreciate your work and content!
All about the style. Small canisters that are as much under the bike are what people want
@@vcyclenut Perhaps. I've noticed the shapes and materials used are more expensive and complex.
lemme guess u form commiefornia keep crying
Black Widow low mount, round carbon can?
I have a black widow coming tomorrow. The low vs High mount and canister type will
Make no difference in performance or tuning parameters
@@vcyclenut looking forward to seeing the results!
So 2024's are putting out less HP and TQ than the 21-23. They were reading 120 HP and 72 torque on your dyno.
My 24 is weaker than my 21. Smaller airbox is probably the culprit. I have not started messing with the airbox yet. Waiting on my filter and new stock air box lid to mess with see if I can get some of it back.
Omologate for road?
It doesn’t have a catalytic converter
sry mate but the sc project is 2023 right?
Yes. 21-23. 1 o2 bung
i must say i am not a fan of those exhaust poking out of the side i much prefer a high mount look.
the arrow really fits that, I have one ordered, just waiting on it from italy . will likely be a few weeks till they get them maid
www.arrow.it/en/assembled/1882/Yamaha-MT-09---MT-09-SP-2024
Is it possible to fit the SC Project S1 pipe to the 2024 MT09? I want to get rid of the stock anchor but on their website it says 2021-2023 😢 Thanks for advance.
Yes it will fit
I have at least one customer with the s1 mounted on his 24
www.vcyclenut.com/store/p220/SC_Project_S1%2FCR-T_full_system_2021-23_MT09.html
@@vcyclenut was there any problems with the installation that you know of? Isn't there one extra sensor on the 2024 model of the bike? I heard that would be an issue but I dont know, thats why i'm asking.
do you live in the USA or Europe ?
@@vcyclenut Europe.
@@pilvi-veikko420gaming9 then you have 2 o2 sensors and these exhaust will not fit
Fu cking 2nd sensor at home ...