@@PeterRanieriII For real!! Thank God you did this experiment, I will stick with mono from now on, and they are much cheaper! God its gonna be super helpful for the Canal and toging
That's crazy how different it was each test. Can you do one on something more jagged with an edge? More mass seems to come off the flouro resulting in the break first.
I think your right, even though it seems more material is coming off the mono it’s probably smaller pieces, and deeper cuts in the flouro pieces were coming off with each pull. I will try and set up something with a sharper edge which I agree is probably more realistic with a barnacle, piece of wreck
And yea there’s def a lot of variables though with each pull and where on the stone it’s rubbing. I think this is why there really isn’t a standard way to test abrasion out there
Hey love the videos!! I wonder how sunline fc 100 vs maxima ultra green would do from what Ive been hearing, those 2 are the best leader lines out there..... if u ever get a hold of them try them out For me. 😀 Thanks and keep up the good work!!
Thanks! Glad to hear you love the vids. I just looked up those two lines and I could def get them and try them out. I think I’ll just keep getting the 20lb so we can compare to the ones I’ve already tested here. Thanks for the comment 👍
This is a great video and comparison, however the ande mono(.45mm) was about .05mm thicker than the flouro (.405mm). This is clearly the reason for it being more abrasion resistant. When compared to suffix superior mono the 15lb is .40mm and the 20lb is .45mm. So the the .05mm difference is the result in a 5lb breaking strength increase .Another brand this time, Berkley vanish floruo mainline has the 20lb diameter at .40mm which is roughly equivalent to the flouro in this video. I'm interested in what the results would be if the diameters were the same.
You make a very good point and I agree with you that diameter is EXTREMELY important. In theory though if we think about it as purely an amount of line being stripped with each pull, then shouldn't they be closer to a 10% difference and not 33% since .45 is about 10% greater than .405? Just my thoughts, maybe its not fair to correlate it like that. I totally agree though that to get more data I should test the same diameters. I will get the Berkley vanish fluoro and put it up against the Ande or possibly the maxima ultragreen mono which someone recommended and I have some videos on that vs FC100 fluoro coming out very soon.
Interesting experiment.. I think at firsthand mono is a lot more abrasion resistant however I think what you were saying about how over time it does become weaker quickly (due to how it absorbs water/uv light) I think flouro in the end is a more consistent leader to use long term however if I didn't mind switching out leaders after every or every other trip then I guess i would not mind the mono. That being said if i know that flouro will hold a certain strength integrity over a longer span of time versus having to switch out mono leaders which results in more line being used it's almost like your paying for flouro to switch out the leader a less amount of times. if that makes any sense lol
maybe another test you can do is to leave both mono and flouro in a bucket of saltwater in the sunlight for an extended amount of time and then try the test again? just some thoughts.
That totally makes sense and I totally agree! Flouro definitely is better resistant to weathering in general and yea if you don’t have to change out the leader every time you go fishing then it could make sense to use flouro. But when I get just the smallest of a nick in my line I change it and I guess I’m just in the habit of putting new leader on often since I tend to fish structure mostly.
No need to switch out mono leader too often. Just switch them out when needed. A simple try to snap the leader before each session is how I test mine on a regular basis. When the mono needs to be changed out you'll know it because it won't stop snapping. In my experience, it takes quite a few years to get to that point.
@@inyongp now I remember! Your right, It was you that suggested the weathering test. So I still do have a bunch of lines sitting in a container of saltwater outside, lol. The o my problem is my labels of what line is what faded so much I can’t read them hahaha but this winter I think I will use what I can salvage and test them out.
Very interesting video. I've been using 60/100 lbs mono for gator bluefish and fluro for the rest(20 lbs - 40 lbs). You seem to be right with the North East being less water clarity and thus less need for fluro. I fish mostly saltwater. Anyway, doesn't mono changes color or discolor more than fluro, especially in saltwater? Maybe you can do a salt test on saltwater discoloration? Also the test is on rubbing parallel to the lines mostly, except the edge. I wonder if it is possible to imitate the bite of a fish, like perpendicular, deep cut test. Sheep head probably crush down on the line but blue will cut through the line.
I do the same thing, have 60lb mono for the bluefish if they're around, and use 20-40lb for everything else. Mono def changes color after being in the saltwater but it's more of a change from translucent to opaque, the outside seems to get weathered and cloudy. Great idea! I do have some mono soaking in saltwater right now actually as someone previously mentioned to try and see how the UV and salt weathers it down and how long and then try and test it out as well. I can try and think of something that will imitate a bite from a toothy fish with a sharper perpendicular cut on the line for sure. Thanks for the input!
@@PeterRanieriII I've had gator blue cut through my 60 lbs. mono before. But that's in the beginning of the season. Anyway, FYI, Key West Kayak Fishing did a video, like a couple of yrs back, on hook corroding in saltwater.
@@MrGreen-sw1ly yea sometimes 60lb won't even cut it but mostly when your fishing bait and they swallow it, if you get 'em on lures usually their chompers are far away enough from the line on the hookset. lol, we digress. I will look up his video on that, I follow him, he does a lot of good tutorials and teaching about the fishing patterns down there, all about the bait, haha
I would like to see u try the yo-zuri disappearing pink fluorocarbon i've always had really good results an use the 40lb one an is def strong as hell an can take some decent abrasion
I have used the yozuri pink in the past and had no complaints as well. I think I used the HD carbon but amazon doesnt have right now in 40lb, is this topknot stuff the same just a newer version?
@@PeterRanieriII I think its just newer name but literally the same unless u get the hybrid one which is fluorocarbon an mono mix which I think work really well to but tbh topknot is just the hybrid version I think just newer but one thing I hate about seaguard is the fact they only put 25yds on the spool which is a joke for 20$
@@SneakersAnonymousMatt ill get the topknot stuff then, yea I'm super curious about the hybrid stuff and the copolymer mono as well, I'm thinking this series of videos could last a while, haha. Regarding the seaguar fluoro your absolutely right, it's ridiculous how little they give you and expensive it is. Better to just get mainline fluoro and spool it yourself onto a small wheel for convenience, you'll save like 4x your money
@@PeterRanieriII def man these are the thing people really need to see cause these are the things that are kinda important to know when ur trying to pick the right tackle for ur area or type of structure ur fishing in so u don't waste money
Trilene big game moss green all day floro is just way to expensive for my taste appreciate this video !
Glad you liked it! Yea the old school mono names like Trilene are where it's at!
You have no idea how much I liked this video, god I found out why the big togs always got away🤣
🤣🤣 hahaha, ahh man. It does make you wonder probably now if you had the other line if you would have got them 😂
@@PeterRanieriII For real!! Thank God you did this experiment, I will stick with mono from now on, and they are much cheaper! God its gonna be super helpful for the Canal and toging
@@PeterRanieriII I am sharing it with my community
@@GrimmFishing I’m glad I could help save you money and fish 👍
Cool test, I can't wait to watch more of your other line-test videos
Thank you! in the off-season (winter) if I have some time I certainly want to try more, thanks for letting me know!
Interesting video, great job with the comparison (and even taking out the out lyers!).
thanks! hahaha i see what you did there, love it
That's crazy how different it was each test. Can you do one on something more jagged with an edge? More mass seems to come off the flouro resulting in the break first.
I think your right, even though it seems more material is coming off the mono it’s probably smaller pieces, and deeper cuts in the flouro pieces were coming off with each pull. I will try and set up something with a sharper edge which I agree is probably more realistic with a barnacle, piece of wreck
And yea there’s def a lot of variables though with each pull and where on the stone it’s rubbing. I think this is why there really isn’t a standard way to test abrasion out there
very interesting , im curious if flouro would win if you used a very abrupt and faster pull to mimic a big tog diving for the structure
I like where your heads at 👍 great idea. Will try to set something up for that
Hey love the videos!! I wonder how
sunline fc 100 vs maxima ultra green would do from what Ive been hearing, those 2 are the best leader lines out there..... if u ever get a hold of them try them out For me.
😀 Thanks and keep up the good work!!
Thanks! Glad to hear you love the vids. I just looked up those two lines and I could def get them and try them out. I think I’ll just keep getting the 20lb so we can compare to the ones I’ve already tested here. Thanks for the comment 👍
This is a great video and comparison, however the ande mono(.45mm) was about .05mm thicker than the flouro (.405mm). This is clearly the reason for it being more abrasion resistant. When compared to suffix superior mono the 15lb is .40mm and the 20lb is .45mm. So the the .05mm difference is the result in a 5lb breaking strength increase .Another brand this time, Berkley vanish floruo mainline has the 20lb diameter at .40mm which is roughly equivalent to the flouro in this video. I'm interested in what the results would be if the diameters were the same.
You make a very good point and I agree with you that diameter is EXTREMELY important. In theory though if we think about it as purely an amount of line being stripped with each pull, then shouldn't they be closer to a 10% difference and not 33% since .45 is about 10% greater than .405? Just my thoughts, maybe its not fair to correlate it like that. I totally agree though that to get more data I should test the same diameters. I will get the Berkley vanish fluoro and put it up against the Ande or possibly the maxima ultragreen mono which someone recommended and I have some videos on that vs FC100 fluoro coming out very soon.
underwater test 👍
Right? All the videos out there I found of testing abrasion were not underwater so I thought it would be important to do.
Impressive test~
Nice vídeo very interesting🤝🤝🤝
Thanks, hope it helped you 👍
Interesting experiment.. I think at firsthand mono is a lot more abrasion resistant however I think what you were saying about how over time it does become weaker quickly (due to how it absorbs water/uv light) I think flouro in the end is a more consistent leader to use long term however if I didn't mind switching out leaders after every or every other trip then I guess i would not mind the mono. That being said if i know that flouro will hold a certain strength integrity over a longer span of time versus having to switch out mono leaders which results in more line being used it's almost like your paying for flouro to switch out the leader a less amount of times. if that makes any sense lol
maybe another test you can do is to leave both mono and flouro in a bucket of saltwater in the sunlight for an extended amount of time and then try the test again? just some thoughts.
That totally makes sense and I totally agree! Flouro definitely is better resistant to weathering in general and yea if you don’t have to change out the leader every time you go fishing then it could make sense to use flouro. But when I get just the smallest of a nick in my line I change it and I guess I’m just in the habit of putting new leader on often since I tend to fish structure mostly.
@@inyongp great idea , I will start the soak now. Haha
No need to switch out mono leader too often. Just switch them out when needed. A simple try to snap the leader before each session is how I test mine on a regular basis. When the mono needs to be changed out you'll know it because it won't stop snapping. In my experience, it takes quite a few years to get to that point.
@@inyongp now I remember! Your right, It was you that suggested the weathering test. So I still do have a bunch of lines sitting in a container of saltwater outside, lol. The o my problem is my labels of what line is what faded so much I can’t read them hahaha but this winter I think I will use what I can salvage and test them out.
Another excellent video brother! I hope we get to fish together this season!
Thanks Dan! We gotta get out there man, I hope so as well. Stripers in the bays now, porgies also!
Very interesting video. I've been using 60/100 lbs mono for gator bluefish and fluro for the rest(20 lbs - 40 lbs). You seem to be right with the North East being less water clarity and thus less need for fluro. I fish mostly saltwater. Anyway, doesn't mono changes color or discolor more than fluro, especially in saltwater? Maybe you can do a salt test on saltwater discoloration? Also the test is on rubbing parallel to the lines mostly, except the edge. I wonder if it is possible to imitate the bite of a fish, like perpendicular, deep cut test. Sheep head probably crush down on the line but blue will cut through the line.
I do the same thing, have 60lb mono for the bluefish if they're around, and use 20-40lb for everything else. Mono def changes color after being in the saltwater but it's more of a change from translucent to opaque, the outside seems to get weathered and cloudy. Great idea! I do have some mono soaking in saltwater right now actually as someone previously mentioned to try and see how the UV and salt weathers it down and how long and then try and test it out as well. I can try and think of something that will imitate a bite from a toothy fish with a sharper perpendicular cut on the line for sure. Thanks for the input!
@@PeterRanieriII I've had gator blue cut through my 60 lbs. mono before. But that's in the beginning of the season. Anyway, FYI, Key West Kayak Fishing did a video, like a couple of yrs back, on hook corroding in saltwater.
@@MrGreen-sw1ly yea sometimes 60lb won't even cut it but mostly when your fishing bait and they swallow it, if you get 'em on lures usually their chompers are far away enough from the line on the hookset. lol, we digress. I will look up his video on that, I follow him, he does a lot of good tutorials and teaching about the fishing patterns down there, all about the bait, haha
Great video
Thanks man! Glad you liked
I would like to see u try the yo-zuri disappearing pink fluorocarbon i've always had really good results an use the 40lb one an is def strong as hell an can take some decent abrasion
I have used the yozuri pink in the past and had no complaints as well. I think I used the HD carbon but amazon doesnt have right now in 40lb, is this topknot stuff the same just a newer version?
@@PeterRanieriII I think its just newer name but literally the same unless u get the hybrid one which is fluorocarbon an mono mix which I think work really well to but tbh topknot is just the hybrid version I think just newer but one thing I hate about seaguard is the fact they only put 25yds on the spool which is a joke for 20$
@@SneakersAnonymousMatt ill get the topknot stuff then, yea I'm super curious about the hybrid stuff and the copolymer mono as well, I'm thinking this series of videos could last a while, haha. Regarding the seaguar fluoro your absolutely right, it's ridiculous how little they give you and expensive it is. Better to just get mainline fluoro and spool it yourself onto a small wheel for convenience, you'll save like 4x your money
@@PeterRanieriII def man these are the thing people really need to see cause these are the things that are kinda important to know when ur trying to pick the right tackle for ur area or type of structure ur fishing in so u don't waste money
@@SneakersAnonymousMatt couldn’t agree more!
Looks like fishing lines just got engineered test
Hahaha thanks, I can’t help myself.