Explaining the Great Plants Vs Zombies VS Mode Tournament
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Danerade spends money only to make a 40-minute video explaining why starfruit is BAD.
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Intro: 0:00
Context/Explaining Everybody Involved: 3:27
Zombies Meta: 12:28
Plants Meta: 19:19
Explaining Tournament: 25:04
Matches Against GeneralJon: 27:29
Matches Against PlasmasheeP: 30:10
Matches Against Shyguymask: 33:51
Conclusion: 39:40
ItsPforPea: / itspforpea
Redhead Gaming: / redheadgaming
Shyguymask: / @shyguymask
GeneralJon: / generaljon
PlasmaSheeP: / plasmasheep
BulbasaurRepresent: / @bulbasaurrepresent
Super: / asuper
All Music Used (In Order of Appearance):
Red Streamer Battle Theme [Orchestral] (Paper Mario the Origami King)
• Line Them Up! A Paper ...
First Wave Dark Ages (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Cerebrawl (Plants Vs Zombies)
First Wave Modern Day (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Moongrains (Plants Vs Zombies)
Choose Your Seeds Neon Mixtape Tour (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Loon Skirmish (Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare)
Ultimate Battle (Plants Vs Zombies)
First Wave Big Wave Beach (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Graze the Roof [in-game] (Plants Vs Zombies)
Modern Day Mid-Wave B (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Bad Juice (Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare)
Battle 6 (Plants Vs Zombies Adventures)
First Wave Lost City (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Mid-Wave A Ancient Egypt (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Ultimate Battle Lost City (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Mini-Game Wild West (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Mid-Wave A Far Future (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Ultimate Battle Far Future (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Rap Neon Mixtape Tour (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Watery Graves [Horde] (Plants Vs Zombies)
Ultimate Battle Modern Day (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Grasswalk (Plants Vs Zombies)
Scamper Shores (Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury)
Never Let Up! (Mario and Luigi Dream Team)
Tubba Blubba Theme (Paper Mario)
The Final Battle (Paper Mario the Origami King)
The Ultimate Show (Super Paper Mario)
Fructophobia (Original Piece)
Adventure's End (Mario and Luigi Dream Team)
Battle 2 Theme (Plants Vs Zombies Adventures)
Final Wave Lost City (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
Wendy's Theme (Paper Mario Color Splash)
Battle with King Olly (Paper Mario the Origami King)
Final Wave Modern Day (Plants Vs Zombies 2)
End Credits Song
Red Streamer Battle Theme Reprise [Piano] (Paper Mario the Origami King)
• Red Streamer Battle | ...
Thank you for watching! - Hry
Thanks for watching! Please tell me what you thought of the video down here in the comments =).
love u bro :]
The video was super well put together. I especially loved that intro as well as that montage with shyguymask
Everything was awesome as always
Pretty good video kepp it up
Amazing as always. Hilarious, great editing, not one dull moment in this video
Don't tell Danerade that when he literally got coached by someone to specifically counter Starfruit against me, he still lost most of his games against me iirc hehehehehe
I won't tell him ;).
Hi Shyguymask
Hi shyguymask
Hi shyguymask
ok
"he does speedruns here and there"
bruh on Friday I did 7 hours of puzzles runs
Trolled
Trolled
We do a little bit of trolling
Trolla
Yo it's the guy from the discord server
The People: Starfruit is good
Danerade: Starfruit is bad
The People: Starfruit is bad
Well starfruit is my favorite plant...... in normal mode
starfruit is good
@Wanna Be a Smurt Person Trying Well, he does make some good arguments against it like the expensive cost and how lacking it is without groups of them.
@Wanna Be a Smurt Person Trying Well, there probably wouldn't have been as many people agreeing if he just said "starfruit bad" and just left it at that.
@@themonsterjack my favrote plant in all modes is kernal pault becuse its fun to throw butter at ppl
Conclusion: Don't go to school kids, practice your vs mode :)
Being the best at VS Mode will lead you to go much farther in life than going to school :).
Ok.
@@Danerade yeah seems about right
Dude im a kid
Not lying
And uhh
No one will let me
@@Danerade The sad part is that's slightly true.
PvZ versus mode has no reason to be as good as it is. Thank you Popcap
If only they did something like this again
Not only that but the multiplayer is only on Xbox
@SuperMitsa I think the main reason there’s not anymore of a vs mode is that is was on the ds version. Remember ds extra modes such as the mini games from sm64ds and nsmbds never came back or even the voice chat from Metroid prime hunters never returned to other games in the same way
And frick you EA
IKR
Danerade rants about starfruit.
Also danerade loses to starfruit in the tournament.
starfruit is not a bad plant but you have to use it correctly to be useful
@@michaeljonathan9715 spam it un the middle...you basically won
@@flaggy185 yes, but don't forget starfruit in versus mode have + 50 sun cost than in other mode. So, plant sun producer then plant stall for early wave then plant starfruit.
@@michaeljonathan9715 that's why they use the puffshrom, it's cheap and works as early defense
Also, Shyguymask said in his video that people understame Starfruit, even with his high cost, it's really powerfull in both modes, but well, you basically cover almost al lines with it, and if you spam you turn the field into a bullethell
@@flaggy185 Yes but any zombie tougher than basic zombie will beat puffshroom(s). Ex. : trashcan, screendoor, conhead, etc. In conclusion, only use puffshroom against basic zombie, imp or as a stall spam.
This was an incredibly well made video! I especially liked the SGM 1v1 compilation, I could only imagine how long this video took to make with all the great looking transitions and special effects.
Hi terror!
Terror hi
Hey Terror! Surprised to see you here.
Hello there
Terror didn't expect to see you here ma dude keep it up!
I literally slowed down the video to hear that super sped up disclaimer lol. He basically said that it was his opinion and it was probably gonna be different, and how he believes his tier list will become outdated as time goes on
Time well spent
Same
Quebecker here, I just want to add to your comment about Quebec’s view on English. Quebec has a really rough history with the rest of the canadian provinces as it was originally a French colony. When the British conquered what was “New-France” at the time, they attemped to suppress French culture. I’m gonna skip a huge chunk of history, but the important thing to know about Quebec is the preservation of French has always been an integral thing to its population. Today, Quebec understands that it is a part of an English country, and therefore understands that they cannot completely ban French, especially due to the huge immigrant population in regions like the island of Montreal and the South Shore. So as a compromise, Quebec allows and teaches English, but has many laws such as Bill 101, which force French to be the main language of the province. English and French can coexist in media but the French portion must be larger. Apologies for this random long comment lol. Good video
Come on man. I just finished learning that in school I cannot escape the history lessons
thanks for your comment. I learned something new today thanks to Dane's little comment and your explanation :)
Plus you have to learn English even if you go to the French school.
Bro didn’t have to write a whole thesis tho
quebec is like the only french ex-colony that doesnt absolutely hate France
Man i appreciate the artist that drew "PlasmaSheeP" but Minecraft sheep version , I love it!
Also this tournament is fun and we do enjoy a lot
gotta admit that our first match was the best battle ever
:lalapad:
OOOOOOH he's here!
my friend Candice died of ligma
P
@@Sarkgalia did we ask
OG Plants vs zombies and OG angry birds are awesome I remember they have a lot of ports
Doomshroom: *exists*
Literally every zombie in a galactically too large zone: Guess I'll die
Remember when i single handedly turned a danerade stream's chat into singing poems?
Oh yea
That was you!?
@@trilogyprions9924 who else was it gonna be
Love how he treats other like normies
He treats Shyguymask like some sort of dark souls boss
As shyguy enters the room epic music plays
Im glad I could show for at least a little bit of the original streams. It was very fun, and THIS video was AMAZING
Hi I love your videos
@@SnowDoge0 same
I really loved how they gathered a bunch of pvz youtubers for a tournament, it was very entertaining for me. Im glad there are still videos being made on it :)
Am I the only one who wants a second tourament?
Helo
No
Woah. That was freaking awesome 😯 The production level is insane. I'm so honored to be a part of this. The song fit the scene perfectly 😊
I feel like the tournament may have been slightly more "accurate" if it were 6 battles instead of 3 - 3 battles for each player on each side and that would hopefully work out issues like players randomly consistently getting the side they do better with.
Finally got around to watching this, and this was very well done! The first time I ever played PVZ was the DS version and I remember playing VS mode with friends at school & even my dad some times. I also want to say, Thank You Danerade for singlehandedly getting me back into PVZ. Last year I randomly got recommended your video about the PVZ2 Eclise mod and I was like "IK there's mods for the first game, but there's mods for PVZ2???" and I streamed the entirety of Eclise AND Grind Thousand & I'm currently streaming the new update to GT. I fell off of PVZ2 back around the end of 2014 and I played PVZ1 again in 2019, but finding out about the PVZ2 modding community changed my life for the better. IDK why I hadn't subbed before, but now I am!
Interesting, I never heard of Danerade until I saw his videos of the PVZ Versus Mode tournaments. Though, I played PVZ heavily before that.
Very amazed that I helped raise a 16 person discord server about this to having well over 200 members including these youtubers :)
You have every right to brag about it. Thx man
Cool
Cool, but what did you do to help?
@@pvzversusmodemaster I was a moderator for a while when the server started, remember?
I hope they make a PVZ game around the VS mode. It'd be cool to get matched with other players online to battle as Plants and Zombies.
PvZ Heros?
@@Swcher Well yeah, but i mean multiplayer with the actual classic pvz mechanics.
garden warfare?
@@clarissaokeSkittlecat A normal PVZ game.
Danerade description: I spend money to make a 40 minute video explaining why starfruit is bad
Shyguymask: Are you challenging me?
God that animated scene with shyguymask as cackletta and danerade as bowser was awesome
I guess we don't talk about the other rock paper scissors we did...
Hai general jon :-)
Oh hi Jon
Me when the
To think PvZ Co-Op was a Silly little side Mode for the Game with no Real Purpose then Having a bit of Fun then Turn into a Complex Strategy based Game that has so, SO Meny Strategies and Outcomes "Possibly" Accidentally made.
Sounds like Smash somehow turning into a competitive game despite being originally marketed as a party fighter
@@tangerinepaint3643every party game nintendo has broken many friendships.
anyone noticed he forgot to put Melon-Pult in his new plant tier list?
Not that good
Not that good
Not that good
Not that good
@@doritos4956 bc it should be like 175 instead of 300
As you said yourself, you have came a very long way from that PvZ 3 video. I'm impressed with how you've managed to improve your content so much in just a bit over a year.
While I enjoy some of your videos more than others, you feel like another one of those CZcamsrs that can talk about anything and make it entertaining. I look forward to your future content and seeing how you could improve your videos even further.
PvZ versus mode at EVO when?
@Grayson Sherman basically the equivalent of the superbowl for fighting games
The biggest flex you can have is being good at Mario kart or PvZ versus
This is very enjoyable to watch. I’m glad I found your channel!
"Maybe try asking darenade"
- ItsPforPea 2021
You probably know this already, but in the ds version, they for some reason made the football zombie's power unholy
Yes lmao
It's satisfying knowing all this as kid through versus on the DS, 360 and watching people actually acknowledge it
It’s satisfying, cause I still play it lol, even before this video.
Your journey, and this PvP for PvE game scenario... I see myself in you, and PvZ Versus in Rimworld PvP.
The Summer Cuck Cup 2022 was the tournement I participated in (... Not like there are any other Rimworld tournements) and I actually really struggled with vanilla Rimworld, even more PvP Rimworld since that became more of a RTS, then I had a short training arc to improve before going into the Cuck Cup 2022 (Yes, actually its name).
It was similiarly structured like this tournament, also with 8 teams of two.
We came, we fought best out of 3's, we won the first two matches.
The finale however, that was a sad display, and while we won the first round with RNG but then lost the second to RNG, and the third because I paniced and instead of doing the smart thing, I did... Something.
Fun Fact about VS mode: VS mode introduced ONE new Zombie that wasn't in the adventure mode, which is the Trash Can Zombie, that is as strong as a Buckethead Zombie, but so goddamn slow that I'm pretty sure a Peashooter can kill it.
Puff Shroom can kill Trashcan Z in 3 tiles of its slow walking. I just tested it.
@@pvzversusmodemaster That's just deppresing.
when i first got pvz on ps3 i remember trying to get my firends to play it with me but they wanted to play co op so only my siblings would play vs mode with me
I remember having only one DS years ago. So only when I meet people who have DS and want to play is when we could play.
@Gogi Poggers its ps3 xbox exclusive
I’m a simple poke-fan, I see rowlet and bulbasaur, I click.
same lol. I clicked on this video because I saw bulbasaur in the thumbnail
Ok but this video is genuinely funny. Editing was spot on, and jokes rarely (if ever) fell flat. Actually got a few out loud laughs instead of the usual nose hair exhale.
It's been more than 2 years, and this video still inspired countless souls to join and give VS Mode a try. Such a masterpiece that deserve to go down the history of this game.
I wish that we had VS. mode instead of arena in pvz2
One of my first vids I’ve seen by you, that was one hell of an intro
This is a very well made video with absolutely great editing with a very interesting topic ngl
It was sometime around 2013 when I played PvZ and many other titles on my DSi at school with a bunch of friends, we had alot of fun. I owned most of the cartridges which gave me an advantage over everyone else by knowing all the strategies on vs mode and when snaking was introduced to Mario Kart DS, or knowing where all the stars and powerups would spawn on NSMBDS and SM64DS, really fun times, thank you nintendo and popcap.
Literally saw this on the Xbox store yesterday and almost bought it
This, was the last pvz video from danerade’s channel,why? It was so good😭😭
Dude i discovered you on shyguymask channel and i am loving your content, keep it up
Yo! This is well edited and got really got timing. Great video lad.
Holy shit, someone finally is talking about this, i used to play this with my brother
Who would’ve thought that this game made almost 10 years ago would not have a meta for a LONG time?
out of all games to have a montage i would have never expected PvZ to get one
Such a good writer and editor. Well made!
iF mIleSPrOwer WAs in tHIS, hE WoUlD win eVerY GaME EASILY.
Dudeeeee, you are sooo underated. I loved the editing in this vid
Me: "mom can we get Gatorade?"
Mom: "we have Gatorade at home."
Gatorade at home:
Why did this make me actually laugh god I'm a failure
Man..... I remember this concept waaayyy back. I don't remember the CZcamsrs who played it but I always watched them play the versus mode....
How many pvz stuffed animals do you have ?
I also have some
4 but I plan to get more
This was a really cool and interesting video. Throughout it you kept mentioning that plants have the advantage, how do you think you could balance the game between plants and zombies so both have the option to play aggro or stall or just how would you change the more in general? I would be interested in seeing a video on this.
Balancing would be useful. While I don't know any video which discusses this, I do know a place where people have discussed balancing options including my own takes.
And also play style is in consideration as well just in case we cannot edit code to balance the game.
I think we all want to see the videos of all the complete matches/games/battles for the tournament. Reply if you want to see all the games/battles/matches.
This is the most ambitiious PVZ crossover yet
My thoughts on your Zombie meta(as a layman)
Stock zombie makes sense to be S tier. I think the reason stock zombie is so good is because it's not balanced for this gamemode. Stock is balanced for regular PvZ where he only appears as a very very small pressure/reminder that zombies are attacking, they're like flag zombies. And what makes them weak is that they're weak, don't appear in big groups and have random spawn.
But in vs mode you can control both the number of em and where to spawn them, giving zombies a slight advantage early game.
Pogo makes sense as S tier, probably would've also put him so high, those b*stards are annoying in regular game so ofc they're annoying here.
Gargantua also makes sense, although he's more dangerous here since you can control where to send him plus he's gonna come out way earlier then adventure mode gargantuan.
Bungee idk what to think of him but your logic is sound.
Wish you talked about screen door and buckethead being in A tier. I guess they're just a good support for basic zombie? As in they're good for pressure or basic zombie can tank instances while buckethead is behind him.
I REALLY wish to hear your explanation for Football and Dancer being B only, I'd think those two would be stronger, especially dancer one. Again I haven't personally played vs mode, but from what I seen, dancer is usually the zombie that ends up winning vs matches.
C tier also needs a lot of explanation, I guess pogo and conehead I can understand but why paper zombie is low? Xd
D list makes sense, they don't seem to be fast enough for vs mode where speed seems everything for zombie player.
And f... Yeah no arguement here, Jackobox is just bad, and i assume they didn't buff him for vs mode. And what's even flag zombies ability? Maybe if he buffed zombies he could be A tier?
Flag zombie straight up spawns and wave of zombies. When is used to play this game with friends a lot of times the zombie player would resort to siege tactics so the catapult zombie and cheap zombies up front (trash can, regular,conehead) but we’d use the flag zombie when the plants defense were weakened.
Damn this was a super well made video. Love the buildup and engagement 😀
Waited almost a year and still no video of unedited gameplay of all battles. We're waiting Danerade!
Danerade great video I like this mode alot and love to see other people feel the same way but My brother and I started playing vs mode like maybe a month b4 your tournament and we have came to the complete opposite option of the game mode. It's trash, super in favor of the zombies and the meta has a teir 0 line up. (We still love it tho). How do the plants deal with this line up?
Regular, newspaper, conehead/polevault, football/ladder, and bungie/miner.
Picked in that order and Playing with your helmet strapped on tight. (Super aggressive, zombie spam.)
Like as plants you have to pick puff, squash, potatoe, coffee atleast otherwise you can't keep up right? Idk maybe we're just to tunnel visioned. Wanted to get an outside opinion tbh. Thanks.
Ive been playing the first pvz since it came out and ive been wanting something like this for years
Honestly first time on this channel and I’m so happy to finally see someone else agrees how bad starfruit is! Also found it to be a bad plant every sense it was only just PVZ1 lol
Danerade really be playing mind games in trying to choose his plants and zombies
I wish you had explained the tier list and some of the plants and zombies a bit more. Like, why is kernel pult so much lower than cabbage? What does flag zombie do? etc. Still, great vid tho 👍
Kernel-Pult essentially relies on RNG (luck) to be good. While Cabbage does the same Damage Per Second as a Peashooter, if Kernel doesn't throw butter, then it's Damage Per Second is laughable at best. Flag Zombie summons a huge wave of zombies, and while that sounds good, it's price of 300 brains for something that the plants can counter pretty easily with some Fume-Shrooms or Cabbage is only viable in Sudden Death, when you can get a large stream of brains. With enough Gravestones, you can get enough brains to place another Flag Zombie right after it's cool-down ends, but even then plants can fend that off with some skill
Someone needs to make this into an online PC thing. Idk about the legal stuff but if it could happen I'd be awesome
This was the shortest 40 minutes ever
Love the SiIvagunner reference at 30:01!
random question but what zombie from pvz 2 do you think would work in the versus mode
Many zombies (z), like Umbrella/Parasol z, Excavator z, and Jester z.
That 1 person that disliked this actually likes the fact that EA made pvz pay to win.
ea bad popcap good
@@Shyguymask lmao
@@Shyguymask yes
13:31 i laughed so hard Lmao
The fact he won all the games of rock paper scissors though
do you think doomshroom would be balanced if you only allowed it to be used once per round?
Bruh this is the first time I ever found out there was a PvZ competitive scene! This has made me happy beyond words-
1:01
Eh still looks better than PvZ3 does
This was fun to watch. Also I bet tournaments are stressful.
Great video, I never expected something like this.
Best part was 3:41
Imagine losing due to RNG.
I relate way too hard.
Agree, and random battle in PVZ Versus Mode can be severely unfair for Plants
What's that song that plays during the conclusion segment? Also nice vids. Subbed
Bro that intro gave me such good vibes
I just love the editing
In the end, he may have lost the tournament, but more importantly, he went undefeated in rock, paper, scissors.
A perfect collaboration doesn't exi-
I know there's a list in the description, but I need to know the name of the song that begins playing at about 28:14. Epic video btw 👍
If someone made a competitive balance patch it would revolutionize this mode.
Yes, make Repeater, Threepeater, and Doom-Shroom more expensive to start off.
@Vincent Tripple and to balance it out make newspaper the same recharge
Why is flag zombie F
Super expensive and only spawns several basic zombies with maybe one Buckethead zombie, but even then they come out from the bush instead of out of the ground closer to the plants.
@@Shyguymask I can under stand but if a players not fully guarded it can catch them off guard also its basically I bunch of zombies in one spot so its saves on space
@@Shyguymask by the time the you fully plant all the graves you'll have plenty of Brains and by the time they kill them you'll have enough brains again and it'll be recharged
@@Shyguymask so shyguymask i wonder why is catapult zombie so low it can damage sunflowers on the back then start destroy the defence plants and then attack generally needing a spuash to stop it
t cost 300 and all walks from the back, which is significant because plants get plenty of time to prepare to defend. Cherry Bomb destroys half of its wave.
Here is an excerpt from the PVZ Versus Mode almanac for Flag Z.
Recharge Time: 30 BSD, 10 ASD (seconds)
Health (Minimum & Sum of total health from all zombies in the same wave): 88
Health (Flag Zombie): 10
Health (Regular Zombie): 10
Health (Conehead Zombie): 28
Health (Buckethead Zombie): 65
━Contains one Flag Zombie
━Contains five or more Regular Zombies
━Contains either at least one Conehead Zombie or one Buckethead Zombie but not both of them
━The minimum total health which is the sum of the health of all zombies
━The Flag Zombie walks slightly faster than all other zombies in that flag wave.
I love that majority of the video is explaining the tourney
Keep uploading Danerade, I’m glad I stayed subbed to see your videos
"After talking and figuring out how parsec works" Man i died with that for some reason.
37:24
*loading Explaining the Great Plants Vs Zombies VS Mode Tournament*
*video loads*
"Remember, no Lawnmower"
*pulls out squash from inventory*
You make the game look more crazy than it is and I love that
Quick question, what did you use to play this? Like online pvz versus i need this in my life
a ps3 emulator+parsec
@@Outcastsage9033 yup, pretty much
Damn that completelly out of nowhere Woodrow Wilson burn, goddamn, went straight for the kill.
Can we get full in depth tier lists on the zombies and plants? Very curious
“Having a nuke at your disposal is OP”
Man, I wish there was a multiplayer plants VS zombies VSs mode in PVZ2
The perceived "Arenaz" sucks.
But there is a fan game that combines PVZ2 and VS Mode together. It is called "PVZ It's Versus Time" and there's a video on it.
@@Plovazo arenas isn’t multiplayer, that’s the funnier part
@@Summon-Inc yeah. Wait, I need to pause for over 1 hour in middle of battle, then come back.
@@Plovazo LMAO
I liked that you represented shyguy with the bowser enemy