@@Mangorille Right, I think the ban is gonna be bs.. they are just gonna tax it/require US based firmware for security reasons. I'm counting on it/will buy a grip of 04's when they come out.
@@windwalkerfpv I saw a leak video on Mad's Tech that he thought was from the O4. I suspect we're not going to get an amazing improvement in video quality (just 60mpbs instead of 50) but curious what the other features will be.
Was pleasantly surprised at how well this thing performed. Did you try updating the Betaflight version or doing a new PID tune on yours? That’s my next step.
I really like my Pavo20 too! A few things I have done BF4.5 was a must so I can properly use dynamic idle. Makes a big difference in propwash handling, especially in a flat drop. I have mine set to 100 since I have pretty steep pitch props. Needed 4.5 due to needing to give dynamic idle a start increase value since I was getting desync on arm. I usually just bind the quad by flashing the newest ELRS with my bind phrase in it so I know it’s at the latest revision. Just a couple mins more effort than manually binding I only use the bottom o3 camera hole and put that into the top hole of the pavo so the camera sits higher and duct stays out of view I tried 3 and 4 blade gemfan props and stuck with the 2020 4 blade props as I think it flies the best. Will lower battery life though. Thought the 2023 3 blades were a close second though. I also went more aggressive on rates and tune and it seems to freestyle pretty darn well for a cinewhoop. Great review!
I've got BF4.5, a new tune, and different props on my list of items to try. I didn't have any issues with ducts in view but possible that I run a higher up-tilt angle then you.
I'm no Alex Vanover but my other quads fly better. This thing is still quite impressive out of the box and most likely can be improved with a new version of betaflight and some tuning.
@@Mangorille lmao my b didn't mean to come off that way... but basically what I meant is if you spend time fly and getting the hang of this qaud. You will be able to maneuver the way you want!
No need to cut any wires. The quad comes setup from the factory to use the built in ELRS receiver. If you want to get the DJI FPV Controller, you just need to update the configuration.
You need to fly within a minute of powering up. Haven't had any overheating issues in flight. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/NIpNry4M-lc/video.html
I’ve moved all my quads over to ELRS already. I’d suggest going with that if you already have the module, etc. the ELRS version of this quad is also a lot cheaper.
@@Mangorille Thank you very much for the answer, but do you think the difference in the quality of communication is very different and which remote control should I take on ELRS?
@@sq1nee No, ELRS is solid and the open source nature of it makes advancements more quick. Just make sure you get the receiver from a reputable company. For the radio, the Radiomaster Boxer is popular.
So, i need a drone chassis (and battery), i need an O3 Air, Goggles 2, and an ELRS controller? Could i use the DJI controller as well through the goggles? I own nothing and am looking for this to be my first drone purchase, but that first step is steep.
Biggest decision would be the battery charger, goggles, air unit, and the hand held controller (i.e. transmitter or radio). Once you figure those out, the rest would be specific to whatever quad/drone you want to purchase (e.g. batteries will depend on the drone). You are correct, the first step is steep if you want to get say the O3 and Goggles 3. You can use the DJI controller 2 but I don't recommend that anymore. I made a video a while back when I changed over to a separate dedicated radio link. czcams.com/video/QRpH3c9G-Y4/video.html
@quinmuma6943 the newer dji products are not backwards compatible with the old, and the older products are not compatible with the new. For me, that says no matter how good or not the dji 2 goggles are, the dji 3 goggles are the ones to buy.
@@dustinyoung3069 Historically DJI has provided 1 generation of backwards compatibility for the goggles. I'm testing the goggles 3 and still see the goggles 2 as the better choice right now especially if you can find it at a discount. The goggles 2 works with both the o3 and the vista plus if we follow history with the 1 generation of backwards compatibility, it should also support the o4 whenever that releases.
For what type of flying? I see this as more of an indoor type of quad or outdoor on a very calm day. Best suited for new comers to the hobby or those looking to keep the skills sharp during the winter months.
@@Mangorille I actually like tiny whoops for indoors. Outdoors I fly everything from 2 to 10 inch. Just never got around to getting a cinewhoop for filming around people and sub250g. The go to used to be a sub250 2.5 inch, but it seems the trend shifted to 2 inch. I just dont understand why. My guess is 2.5 inch flys way better or am I wrong?
wife approved
HAHA, well as close as you can get to wife approved given the price tag.
Good to see you back! As soon as we get 04 these 2" whoops are gonna be so useful!
Thanks! Fingers crossed for an o4 soon!!
@@Mangorille Right, I think the ban is gonna be bs.. they are just gonna tax it/require US based firmware for security reasons. I'm counting on it/will buy a grip of 04's when they come out.
@@windwalkerfpv I saw a leak video on Mad's Tech that he thought was from the O4. I suspect we're not going to get an amazing improvement in video quality (just 60mpbs instead of 50) but curious what the other features will be.
Absolutely love mine, great little quad
Was pleasantly surprised at how well this thing performed. Did you try updating the Betaflight version or doing a new PID tune on yours? That’s my next step.
I really like my Pavo20 too! A few things I have done
BF4.5 was a must so I can properly use dynamic idle. Makes a big difference in propwash handling, especially in a flat drop. I have mine set to 100 since I have pretty steep pitch props. Needed 4.5 due to needing to give dynamic idle a start increase value since I was getting desync on arm.
I usually just bind the quad by flashing the newest ELRS with my bind phrase in it so I know it’s at the latest revision. Just a couple mins more effort than manually binding
I only use the bottom o3 camera hole and put that into the top hole of the pavo so the camera sits higher and duct stays out of view
I tried 3 and 4 blade gemfan props and stuck with the 2020 4 blade props as I think it flies the best. Will lower battery life though. Thought the 2023 3 blades were a close second though.
I also went more aggressive on rates and tune and it seems to freestyle pretty darn well for a cinewhoop.
Great review!
I've got BF4.5, a new tune, and different props on my list of items to try. I didn't have any issues with ducts in view but possible that I run a higher up-tilt angle then you.
how about 2009 gemfan? i want to change my pavo20 blades to 3 blades.
The Pavo20 actually flies extremely well, both cinematic and freestyle...It all just depends on the pilot's skill.😜
I'm no Alex Vanover but my other quads fly better. This thing is still quite impressive out of the box and most likely can be improved with a new version of betaflight and some tuning.
@@Mangorille lmao my b didn't mean to come off that way... but basically what I meant is if you spend time fly and getting the hang of this qaud. You will be able to maneuver the way you want!
Not interested too much in this quad but nice video, I like your presentation style.
Thanks buddy. Happy flying!
I got two of them they fly great try 3 blade props fly's even better
Did you need to cut the SBUS wires on the O3 connector to use your radio, or did it work without doing that?
No need to cut any wires. The quad comes setup from the factory to use the built in ELRS receiver. If you want to get the DJI FPV Controller, you just need to update the configuration.
u can try with a triblades...it flies better in my opinion
Thanks. I'm going to be trying 3 and 4 blade props. Have you tried 4 blade?
@@Mangorille 4 blades result in less automony and less power. 3blades r the best imo
@@Pozzix65 That's been my experience as well on other quads.
Haven't you had any problems with the O3 overheating?
You need to fly within a minute of powering up. Haven't had any overheating issues in flight. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/NIpNry4M-lc/video.html
Thanks for the video! Very useful and interesting, do you think it's better to take ELRS or TBS?
I’ve moved all my quads over to ELRS already. I’d suggest going with that if you already have the module, etc. the ELRS version of this quad is also a lot cheaper.
@@Mangorille Thank you very much for the answer, but do you think the difference in the quality of communication is very different and which remote control should I take on ELRS?
@@sq1nee No, ELRS is solid and the open source nature of it makes advancements more quick. Just make sure you get the receiver from a reputable company. For the radio, the Radiomaster Boxer is popular.
@@Mangorille thanks so much!
It’s possible to mount a GoPro naked on it?
A naked GoPro is about 50 grams so definitely will impact the performance.
So, i need a drone chassis (and battery), i need an O3 Air, Goggles 2, and an ELRS controller? Could i use the DJI controller as well through the goggles? I own nothing and am looking for this to be my first drone purchase, but that first step is steep.
Biggest decision would be the battery charger, goggles, air unit, and the hand held controller (i.e. transmitter or radio). Once you figure those out, the rest would be specific to whatever quad/drone you want to purchase (e.g. batteries will depend on the drone). You are correct, the first step is steep if you want to get say the O3 and Goggles 3. You can use the DJI controller 2 but I don't recommend that anymore. I made a video a while back when I changed over to a separate dedicated radio link. czcams.com/video/QRpH3c9G-Y4/video.html
Do you recommend the DJI goggles 2 or the DJI Goggles 3?
@quinmuma6943 the newer dji products are not backwards compatible with the old, and the older products are not compatible with the new. For me, that says no matter how good or not the dji 2 goggles are, the dji 3 goggles are the ones to buy.
@@dustinyoung3069 Historically DJI has provided 1 generation of backwards compatibility for the goggles. I'm testing the goggles 3 and still see the goggles 2 as the better choice right now especially if you can find it at a discount. The goggles 2 works with both the o3 and the vista plus if we follow history with the 1 generation of backwards compatibility, it should also support the o4 whenever that releases.
@@quinmuma6943 How budget conscious are you?
How are these 2" O3 cinewhoop compared to 2.5" O3 cinewhoops ?
Not sure if 2 inch has advatages, unless you want sub100g for Japan.
For what type of flying? I see this as more of an indoor type of quad or outdoor on a very calm day. Best suited for new comers to the hobby or those looking to keep the skills sharp during the winter months.
@@Mangorille I actually like tiny whoops for indoors. Outdoors I fly everything from 2 to 10 inch.
Just never got around to getting a cinewhoop for filming around people and sub250g.
The go to used to be a sub250 2.5 inch, but it seems the trend shifted to 2 inch. I just dont understand why. My guess is 2.5 inch flys way better or am I wrong?
@@chrisbee5481 I still think 3 inch is the sweet spot for performance but then it starts to get tough to hit sub250g for a ducted cinewoop.