Aggressive Micro CineWhoop // BetaFPV Pavo20 // 3s Power
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2023
- Another cinewhoop flown against the grain and faster than designed. Its pretty fun though.
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10 million views! ah yea! and you do not sale your review quads! instead giving them away to all us viewers! That is why you the Man! thanks Nick for being the way you are, who you are. and those flying skills yo!
Congrats on the 10 Million views Nick, I have been subscribed and watching for a while now, you have been a good honest source of information for a newbie like myself, keep up the good work Nick.
Congratulation to the 10 Million views!
Man what a review! Thanks for your effort and being and staying that humble 💪 the Pavo 20 looks like a great all around Quad which is capable of indoor and outdoor flights and much cinematic action!
I like it because it's a honest review from an experienced woop pilot. Got the pavo pico after that video, very satisfied.
Yes been waiting for this. You’re the man nick burn. 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Congrats on 10 million views!!!! That’s a god damn accomplishment! One of my favorite channels
even on the bad pain days your channel gives me joy for certain
it's nice to be back in the hobby! still preferring analog but feels great to watch your vids again nick! congratulations too on the 10M! truly one of the most influencial micro youtubers
You still "prefer" analog? Lol - anyone who says that hasn't flown digital.
Same. Analog just has a "raw" feel to it, imo. Not to mention it doesn't break the bank nearly as much
Tks so much for your review. I can't wait to receive this on the mail.
Really nice flying Nick! Love your unbiased opinions and reviews!
Thank you
Thanks for the video Nick!
Congratulations 🎉 been watching off and on since the day of canned motors. May you have continued success.
Nice detailed review Nick, and quality indoor speed flying. I’d already ordered the Flylens 75 before watching this so happy you gave it a thumbs up. I get your point over the 85 being a better option for outdoors but I have a GEPRC cinelog 35 V2 for that and the 85 couldn’t get anywhere near it.
Happy New Year to you and your family from across the pond 👍🏼
Hi Nick, CONGRATS on 10 million views, WOW. Great video and review of the BetaFPV Pavo20. Well at least I can purchase it without the HD system, I'm analog still. I guess it's flying OK for a small cinewhoop, Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
Congrats on 10 mil nick🥳👍🏼i knew you'd get there hopefully i will get to experience hd one day soon😁✌🏽
Congratulations on the 10 million views Nick!
Excellent review NB! Diggin the new HD whoop content.
I have several of the cables so I keep the dongle plugged into one of them. This helps me keep up with it. Enjoyed the video!👍👍😀
I wanna get into flying so bad! Congrats on 10 mil as well thats huge
Beautifulll estate, my friend!!! And just AWESOMMMME content!! As alllways!! Thank you for uploading!😊
My pleasure!!
You make an excellent videos! Also, you have a gorgeous house! Your yard is also beautiful.
Great review. The maneuver your are describing is a "Split S". Common in FPV racing. Also very fun :)
yea, kinda, it has a bit of a roll element which may not matter
Love your work Mt Burns 👏. It probably worth discussing the BRAND warranties for all your reviews? - I watched a previous review and went with GEP. ooops... Yeah, My experience with GEPRC ouch! I started my build 5 weeks after receiving it - a big mistake with this brand. The short version, they said "bad luck" haha 30 days warranty and offered me $20 toward a new AIO FC/ESC board. You should also recommend to your viewers (maybe) that they photograph electronics before getting started, macro, both sides - these photos will prove invaluable when GEP tries to say anything/everything is the customer's fault or a crash. and NOTHING is a factory faulty. GEP support knowledge is low/basic. GEP ships with very old ESC firmware with no RPM filtering - unlike JHEMCU which ships with Bluebird 19.2.
I love you Nick!
Great review Thank You!
Congrats with 10 million views, I have seen my share of them and have enjoyed them all.
Thank you. It's been a fun journey.
I bought this pavo20, it arrived 4 days ago. But the day it arrived I saw that the props size is the same as the mobula8, it good because is 3S, but it's heavier too. The box for my pavo20 is here, I haven't opened it and I'm going to return it. For those who have mobula 8 I don't think it's worth it, but it's better than the pico. Anyway Nice review, thanks Nick!
Awesome stuff, as always, Nick. I'm so far behind on FPV these days, and I truly miss flying so much. Hopefully, I'll win something more modern, which will bring me up to speed...or you can just send it my way. For now, I'm still an analog guy. Thanks for this review, Nick!😉👍🏾
gotta be even steven with the giveaways. Luck and chance are our best bet.
Wow that thing fly's great! I have the Pavo35/6s and I'm a bit too scared to fly it in small spaces because it has so much power. Thanks for the video, great piloting as always.
Thanks Nick, for the price i love it and how it performs
11:08 I think the maneuver you're referring to is called a "Split S".
Really fun trick and easy to learn even for a noob like me!
Sweet!
Man i simply love this tiny 4k quad ❤
The lack of batteries really kills it for me. Hoping they come out with more options for 3s batteries.
I'm a massive fan of the Tatu batteries. Out of the 30 something packs I have bought, I have only had one dud.
During the flight you mention RockSteady being on, but that won't come through to the goggles it will only be in the recorded video. This is super smooth for goggle view. Putting the Darkstar20 to shame imo
You have a really nice house 😮
Nice pad 👍
Great video and review as always.
I’d like to pitch in my 2¢ about the usb port. I like not having a hard mounted usb port on my fc. It always seems to get in the way of the frame or canopy or something else. And if there is a weight savings factor, then 100% this should be standard on micros like 65mm.
Any ways just my thought🤷🏻♂️
I do like this quad. So much better than the Pico.
Hey Nick, comparing this against the mobula 8 with o3. What would you recommend for outdoor backyard flying? Both look like they might suit my needs and I'm not swayed either way atm
10 MIL 🤯 Congrats Nick, well deserved! Great review as always. Im kinda hoping these companies will start moving away from the ducted O3 micros and start exploring ductless micro options 👀
Yea, probably their next iteration will be without ducts. Surprisingly these cinewhoop/ducted product must be much more popular than I think...they keep iterating them.
That's gorgeous :D bet it's double the cost in england haha
Crazy, so enjoyable flight scenes... Planning to buy Pavo20, new (and for me 1st overall) season will start very soon. Not sure yet which vtx to buy.
vtx choice can be tough one for sure. So many options to weigh.
Fantastic flying and review, Nick! Really nice little quad!!! 😃
I've found a really nice 2.5" frame the other day, called AlfaRC Fi-115... And I'm really considering getting it to build a 2s quad... Perhaps with 2" props and more space, or even 2.5"...
Unfortunately it won't be any soon, but I think about building it with Walksnail.
So, I don't know, perhaps you could want to take a look. From 2" to 2.5" the difference isn't that bad. 😊
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I will see what I can find. Looks like an aliexpress only? Or do you find it somewhere else
@@NickBurnsFPV No, only there, really. It seems to be 2 years old already as well!
Thank you for this! I really want to try this model out. Was considering the other one , but all that jello issues it had held me back. This here though would be nice to try out for my eldest son since my youngest is into FPV. Maybe grab the previous comparison model for myself. Grow the family tree FPV pilots to three that way 😊
Flylens 85 no jello
@@fongfpv738 really now. I need to look into this. Thank you!
Good review. Congrats on the 10 million views! Which is better for indoor use the Pavo20 or the Flywoo 85? How did you keep the props out the Pavo20 view? Thanks!
Really either will do inside just fine, I would run the pavo on 2s just to lower the weight for inside use. To keep the props out of view on the pavo20 mount it as seen at 15:21
Congratulations on your channel milestone. My boss offered to buy me a DJI drone but I was thinking of getting a FPV setup instead to get back into the hobby, any suggestions?
Really open ended. What type of flight or flight purpose. What size of space to fly in? Inside or outside? ....etc
Hi Nick, I know this is an older review so I'm not sure if you still have this whoop anymore. Do you mind doing a quick test and see at what camera tilt will the ducts be out of frame? Thanks!
hey! thank you for your content. What do you prefere guys? "BetaFPV Pavo20 o3" or "Happymodel Mobula 8 o3" ??...
Hi Nick it is a pleasure to watch your reviews! When will have test for Geprc DarkStar20 and compansion with Pico20?
I do have the dark star. I had been hoping to fly it recently, but its been pretty windy and rainy. Looking at the weather my best bet is to fly it Monday, as the winds are to be 10mph, but above 15mph for the next two weeks. I hope the weather "schedule" changes.
@@NickBurnsFPV Looking forward to your review!
just got it to mount with the avatar pro hd v2🥳
Nice video...may i know what onboard camera, rc u are using?
Is the DJI O3 air unit camera
Hey can I ask What Remote Control and goggles are compatible with the Pavo20(Dji03) ? Im newbie thanks for your help 🙏
Congrats on reaching 10 million views! Just curious, were you using auto ISO or auto shutter for the indoor/outdoor transition video?
Honestly, I don't know. In reviews I generally don't change camera settings. With that, the iso or shutter would be the shipping defaults.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the info!
Hey Nick! Great video! I noticed that you use a 720mAh battery, but BetaFPV recommends 450-650mAh. Would using the 720mAh cause any complications long term? Thanks!
No it will be fine. The size of the battery only impact flight characteristics. The wear on electronics and such wouldn't be impacted. We could see an impact in durability if the battery weight gets to high and we crash. More weight=higher impact and potential for more damage.
This vs darkstar20, which would you recommend?
Hi, your vids are great, thank you! Question, how does the Pavo 20 record the hd video footage from that 03 camera? Is there a sd card slot on the drone or something that records the actual footage? and does it record the video feed into the goggles on a separate memory card or something?
Also does the propellers ever come into view of the camera when recording video?
The DJI O3 which is the camera and vtx combo in this does have on board recording space as well as an sd card video can be recorded to. The goggles 2 also record, the goggles 2 also record the onscreen osd information.
@@NickBurnsFPV I see. Okay very cool indeed. Cant wait to get my first fpv drone.
Another great video as always. How does this compare to the Flylens 85 with regard to sound profile and flight performance though? Having a hard time deciding between the two. A TPU camera shroud would be necessary with the Flylens 85, that's for sure.
The sound is very similar to my ears. Best to judge that yourself. I like the flylens more, its lighter overall and feels more responsive and can handle faster manuvers better. The pico20 with a 3s battery, we can feel the weight pulling us off our lines and we have to compensate with more throttle.
@Oyeee 123 Probando your last comment is missing. I have searched for it but I cannot locate. You had a questions about OSD information on the screen. If you see this, investigate the betaflight configuration application OSD page. Look for the items Link quality or RSSI. Those should be what your looking for.
Thanks for the video tutorial! Will the Pavo 20 overheat as the Pavo Pico?
When comparing DJI O3 based quads, 1:1, yes, they will all overheat if left without air flow/flight.
Yep that was pop on the post. Split-S over under the tree nice and YES SIR NAILED IT! 10:38 drive. The Pavo20 , yes very nice rig the card is out. Awesome flighting, Great review.
Hello Nick. Which one do you recommend more between Flylens 85 and Pavo 20?
Because I don't tend to fly flat so much I prefer the flylens85
PAVO20이 갖고 싶어서 이 영상을 보게 되었고, 보고 난 후로는 당신의 집이 갖고 싶어졌습니다.
I was able to mounting on all 4 holes, but I was not looking for the angle you use, skills aren't there yet😀
Kinda just want one of these but configured for good ol' fashioned Diamond VTX and 2s batteries. Not trying to be youtube famous just want to have fun.
Hi nick! Great review of the pavo 20! Btw could you review the new Geprc Darkstar 20? Im on dilemma to choose between darkstar or pavo 20. What dyou think should i get? I know the difference is the power between those 2.
I have the darkstar, review will be out soon.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeay! Cant wait! 😍
Hey BetaFPV! Make this with 1204 ~5000-6000kv motors for 3 or 4s and use a 2.5" prop!
next iteration ideas. Hopefully they listen. Would like to see something like these without prop protection
Yeah, like a mix of this new design and the old betafpv 95x
Mit welchen Einstellungen fliegst du den?
I still love my 2.5" 2s toothpicks more than the 2:... More efficient and more punch with 1103s :)
What prop you like?
Hi Nick, went to the Beta-flight page using the link you provided, it shows the quad with the 03 cameras, transmitter, and one single round antenna, unlike the small dual antennas on yours, I am new to the hobby and in what looks to be a steep learning curve😃 wonder ing why and should I try to find an 03 kit with smaller antennas. Always look forward to your next CZcams video, Don
I don't know why the images show a single antenna. If you scroll down the page the package contents doesn't list any antenna and the lower picture shows two small antenna which is what I received.
@@NickBurnsFPV
I ordered one we will see, I think is a great price, but you really needed the LED lights on yours😀
@dondupuis4007 Yea, I did put them on after I had recorded and edit the video. I couldn't help myself at that point, it takes it up a notch 😍
Hello, thank you for your review.
Which of the two do you think is louder in your opinion? Is there a relevant difference?
Thanks for your time!
between the pavo20 and pavo pico. I think the pavo20 is louder, but not by a lot.
Hellow,
I have
Pavo Pico Brushless Whoop
F4 2-3S 20A AIO FC V1 wtx hd version,
Can i install analog vtx? If yes can u sand small instruction or picture thx
Hey nick, do you run different profiles on 2s vs 3s?
I believe they do have two pid profiles for the different battery cell counts.
So, I just returned 2 pairs of Fatshark Recon hd 's because I was unable to update the firmware. Decided to go with DJI. Any advice on updating firmware here? Excellent job btw!
Nick, just FYI, enabling RockSteady is only applied to the SD card recording on the O3 air unit. It is not applied to the DVR recording on the Goggles.
Are you sure. It feels different in the goggles with rocksteady on. Less responsive.
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes sir, 100% sure. I did a side-by-side comparison and it's clearly only applied to the SD card on the O3.
But you don't have to take my word for it, Oscar Liang's blog about the DJI O3 also mentions this. Per his blog post - "EIS, or Electronic Image Stabilization, is an option to use the built-in Rocksteady technology for stabilizing footage recorded by the O3 Air Unit. Note that this doesn’t affect what you see in the goggles, only the recorded videos.".
Another blog from Haye Kesteloo - "DJI incorporated RockSteady stabilization into the DJI O3 Air Unit, enabling fully stabilized footage directly off of the SD card and D-cinelike color modes".
Also from the DJI O3 documentation - "* Video stabilization application refers to either the DJI O3 Air Unit EIS function or third-party video stabilization software."
My side-by-side comparison video: (Just uploaded, may take some time to process 100% 4K quality. Last 15 seconds shows the biggest difference)
czcams.com/video/NFL-Fzahn2w/video.htmlsi=u0VUnjV6SqdkLD0g
@@FPV_Reject wow very interesting. I obviously thought it was an in camera function.
@@NickBurnsFPV - No worries. I just wanted to share, I had the same thought also before. The FPV community is all about helping each other and sharing knowledge 🙂
@@FPV_Reject Certainly, Much appreciated.
@nick burns which feels better to fly aggressive freestyle Pavo 20 or flylens 85?
flylens85, due to the weight, but thats the O3 lite or naked version. I felt the 3s battery would pull me off my lines if I didn't compensate enough.
Do you prefer the pavo 20, fly lens 85, or pavo 25, if you had to choose one?
Covered here czcams.com/video/87paFkhZLIY/video.html
Hello Nick i am begginer in fpv i can use this model with taranis qx7? Excellent review congrats for your Chanel
It will will depend on which version. FPV drones come with different receivers and the receivers operateon different protocol. currently the most popular is EspressLRS receivers, which isn't directly compatible with your radio. Your radio would require an ExpressLRS module in the bay on the back.
I bought this drone haha. Do you fly on stock bf settings with this drone? Anti Gravity on ?
The pid tune I use in all reviews are those that come with the drone from the manufacturer. I only move osd elements, set the modes to the switches I use and rates I use.
For that prop wash issue, turn air mode off
Split S is the term ur looking for I believe
Which one do you suggest for beginners, the Pavo Pico or the Pavo20?
the pavo20 on 2s. I think the durability will be better on the pavo20.
Iʻll canʻt wait to build a flywhoo lens and make that a 4s hehehe.
There were some 4s 2inchers a few years ago that were super exciting. I believe I ran a tiny 450mah in those
Couldnt you mount the Camera with the upper screw holes so it sitz a bit more down inside the quad? Then you wouldnt have the problem of maybe hitting it on something
It would move it down about 4mm. So yea, up to the degree in which 4mm makes a difference.
I can't understand if the propeller guards are visible when you shoot with the DJI camera?" because in some video you can see the props guards.
It depends on the camera angle flown at.
are the whip antennas for the vtx included with this one like the pico?
Yes, they are also listed on the package list
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks man!
Cant wait to make this frame custom built with better props
So I got the elrs version is there no way to run my DJI radio I mean if not it's fine I can use my Zorro but I really wouldn't mind keeping everything on the same radio
I am not certain of if we can make it work with the dji radio without soldering. To try to switch, first make a backup of the betaflight configuration from the cli page, type "dump", then save that output to your computer. Then to try to use the dji radio....switch the rx protocol to sbus. There could be another step or two I am not thinking of but that is a start at least.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks I appreciate your reply. I will keep the elrs till I'm bored of it then I'll mess around with it 😎 I hate tinkering with something that's new😂
What is the price and cheapest full HD setup goggles included?
Not sure there are a lot of stores and options
Hi pal, im struggle what batterys buy, 660 or 720 gnb, did you try fly slower with 660, what was flight time?
I do believe I mention the 660 3s flight in the video. Sorry I am unable to recall that information and not able to rewatch the video at this moment.
@NickBurnsFPV you mention the flight time is 6 min cruising at 720mah, and 3min with 660mah flying slighty agresive. I was wonder how long you can cruising with 660mah.
@@osafpv1110 With it being 4 months ago I can't say. My guess based on the 720mah a 660mah would be about 5:20.
Do you have a video of your 03 video settings
No, typically I run them as they come setup, which is often 16:9, 4k/60 with auto focus off.
Hi Nick, went to the Beta-flight web page using the link you provided, it shows the quad with the 03 cameras, transmitter with one single round antenna, unlike the small dual antennas on yours, I am new to the hobby and in what looks to be a steep learning curve😃 wonder, should I try to find an 03 kit with smaller antennas like yours, or does it really matter? Always look forward to your next CZcams video, Don. PS also put this question in comments, but want to really say thank you for what you do.
The Pavo pico and the Pavo 20 come with those mini antennas.
@@CloudsFPV
Great thank you!
will it perform better with the 2 inch tri-blade that Mobula 8 uses?
No necessarily. There is a balance of bi and tri blade props and motor kv.
Try the gemfan 2040 props. I've tried them all and that's the one for me.
Did you say you’re giving this quad away ?!?
No, but I do have a giveaway running czcams.com/video/ksfeJXcp_uU/video.html
Hi
Could you put a freestyle v2 with a micro v3 cam in that frame?
Tha ks
It might take some DIY to make it fit well but yes.
Thanks for sharing if you can share pid rate config Pavo20
pids are the defaul betafpv ships it with. My rates I use on all quads is here czcams.com/video/llpHcWQx8q8/video.html
FlyLens 85 2S or this one ?
I like the flylens85 more.
Its the Beta FPV 2.4ghz AIO option for ELRS configurator. My question is about the light strip, I have it plugged in, It shows up as User 1 under modes in Beta flight just fine and it looks like everything works in betaflight but I just cant get the LED to turn on and off via controller which is a radiomaster boxer elrs. Right now its always on and if I dont want it to turn on then I just unplug it before flight so its not a big deal but I just cant figure out why Its not working.
Have a switch assigned to that user1 mode?
@@NickBurnsFPV Yes and when I use that switch it shows in betaflight but it doesn't effect the drone light. I think I've given up on it lol, still love the drone.
@@CloudsFPV Is that switch setup on the radio side? Does the switch move when looking at betaflight receiver page? Is that switch also used for arming or other function?
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey Nick, Yes the switch works in betaflight and registers, It's not used for any other functions either, its just very strange.
I followed the instructions on the BetaFPV page for the leds:
resource SERIAL_TX 1 NONE
resource PINIO 1 A09
set pinio_box = 40,255,,255,255
save
this will be my first FPV drone) did I make a mistake when I ordered it?
I don't understand? What would be the mistake?
@@NickBurnsFPV I'm sorry that I didn't ask the question in detail.
In your review, you said that you would not recommend a 3s drone in this format to beginners - it is too complicated to control. Did I misunderstand you? I have flight experience only in the simulator.
@@tomtailor7663INSIDE to start fpv with this on 3s will be very challenging and I wouldn't recommend. Outside with a larger margin for error will be okay. If this is your first quad I would suggest a good amount of time on a fpv simulator and starting with 2s batteries with this drone.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the recommendations. But looking at the specifications of the drone - it supports only 3s. I will think about something :-) Thank you!
Is this the fpv camera?
yes its the video from the dji O3 vtx and camera.