You heard the man diesel trucks are made to work , all the wanna be truckers out there driving these trucks to the mall are the ones that screwed everything up , now that every other vehicle is a big ass diesel what did you expect
I don't even own a diesel truck but I love watching your videos, such a wealth of information. The situation you described where a dealership or shop will replace an engine but not find the cause of the failure or check the dpf, can be said for just about any shop on any vehicle. They fix the problem but do not fix the cause of the problem. Great information as always Bill.
KORRECTION - I made reference to a Injector for DPF in the exhaust and that is incorrect. There is an injector in the exhaust for DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) but not for DPF. So please EVERYBODY go to all the forums and roast me to your hearts content.
I sure want a new truck, but my 2000 7.3 is still running so strong that I don't have the heart to retire it. I've used all Bills longevity tips from the simple radiator cap change too prolong in the high pressure injector pump. Thanks Bill. Did have to replace one major item. The seats. Wore them out so I put in a set of leather ones from a wrecked Lariat. I'm happy again lol. Long live the PowerStroke!
crruzzzer1 get a new one if you must but never trade in that 7.3 save the older truck for a spare I used to work at auto zone and these newer trucks have issues they will go into limp mode over any little issue.these newer truck have major power just amazing but the maft.have over energnerd them there just not reliable
I just picked up a 2016 F-350 6.7 at the urging of my wife. She was getting tired of our aging but well loved 97 7.3. I was hesitant at first but I've gotten used to the new-to-us truck. Now I've got to sell my old buddy (which I spent a fortune on over the 20 years we had it). Banks intercooler, Banks torque converter, Banks trans-command, D-Celerator exhaust brake, Edge programmer, pillar gauges, and much more. The new truck comes with all this stuff from the factory! Sigh . . . But I don't need two trucks, so one has to go.
Rickey Driskill 2000 7.3 140000 miles owned it since 60000 for sale.its mint but lifted. But bigger tires so front n back have 4.11 gears aftermarket built tranny it will tow the town of Reno.... no really I moved Reno to my back yard with this truck(damn I wish I had said backyard) my wife has 2012 f250.... def dpdookey problems alllllll the time. Rite now I am taking a 7.3liter crap b4 getting under her 6.7 to fix the mix senor n def bs
I think Mr Bill would agree with all of us to delete the system, but to stay safe he can't. Its funny all the hot rods and Harley Davidson with pipes deleted emissions running up down are roads with no worries. Love your post thumbs up keep them coming best power stroke channel going.
I have no idea how wasting all this fuel during regen with the environmental cost of manufacturing DEF fluid and DEF bottles in the landfill. How is this somehow better for the environment.??
Working in the class 8 world, for Kenworth, I have seen several dpf, scr, and engine related failures that caused damage to the pre-mentioned items. The factory was/is very diligent about completing the repair all the way down stream. So you can easily swing a $40k engine and put $14k in a dpf and doc set up. Gotta love the EPA!
I drove a test semi truck for freightliner and when we had to do a park regen there was something wrong with the regen!! Regen worked best when making Long hard pull's or in cruise control for a long period of time.
Leonard Calvert these smaller displacement engines may be able to effectively use a parked regen where as in a semi that just gets you by for a little while. The difference in 6.7 vs. 15 liters, ya know?
As a truck driver we only do a static region on concrete, there's actually been cases where the oil in the asphalt has ignited. The diesel particulate filter can only be regen so much and then it has to be replaced
mosanders0574 wow that's crazy . I had an International that would force me to do a manual regeneration every day POS finally they fixed it one day. So glad my company truck now is a glider no emissions crap!!!
mosanders0574 true but they can be regened 1000s of times. This guy is saying do it every 50 or 70k miles as preventive. Not that big of deal. If these Ford piece of crap don't have a problem in 50k miles I will be surprised.
Andy Hass funny I see so many of these 6.7ls with over 250,000 miles and no issues. One I’ve seen has 280,000 and no blowby, no replaced turbo nothing. It was deleted at 210,000 miles
Just bought a F-350 Lariat 2011. Whoever owned this truck before kept it in excellent condition and really took care of the truck maintenance since 2011. But 2 days after we bought it from Ford dealership, that "Drive to clean exhaust" message came on (We bought this truck because my wife and I are planning to get a 5th wheel but in the meantime we won't be driving far distances for probably the next 3 months) so I drove the truck non stop for about 20 miles and the drive to clean message disappeared from the Information option. It did not show that it was completed, but it hasn't come back on again. Maybe 'cause it got to a percentage where the computer says it's ok. I've read that some people had to drive for more than 45 minutes and still it wouldn't regen. I guess it just builds up if you just drive it short distances all the time. The truck runs super smooth and it's got great pick up when I need to speed up. I'm very pleased with it so far.
people don't understand that it takes quite a bit to actually get these engines to temp. Not "water temp" but to get the oil full temp for long enough to vapor off the blow by / diesel that gets in the crank case / oil. Idling won't help, but people do it
Here in France we have diesel wich take fuel fill up at the pump to program regenerations. So,if peoples go often at the gas station to fill up for few bucks only each time,the regen kick in very often. Or an other known problem is a battery ,with a voltage dropping just enough to resetting the ecu memory ,but not enough to create starting problems,wich do not allow regen to being done,so create other problems.
Good video. Thx for the Help. I have a 2012 Ford f350 that went into def engine idle only mode. I'm also a semi truck driver. And deal with def regen all the time. So I replaced my MAF sensor because of engine light on. Then I basically manually egen'd my Ford by keeping the rpm's between 1500 and 2000. Ideally at 17-1800. I set a timer and it took 6 and half minutes and the def light turned off and my truck was able to drive away. If you dont believe me at 38 years old. Ask my mom that I drove off from. 👍 It's dumb we dont have manual regens available like we do on the semi trucks. Hope this helps. It worked for me. Also I don't have a computer. But it's been running ever since. I've sat on the side of the road in older Mack pinnacles while it has a button to manual regen. I did this process in my 2012 Ford f350 and have been running ever since.
Bill seems like a bad ass guy to work for he messes around a decent amount if you pay attention in his vids, I'm sure he has high standards but that's why he's the powerstroke king!
i feel a DPF should have a service/manual regen every 20k, i find the controlled environment gives a nice clean burn and helps push ash out the tail pipe, and after the cooldown process i findgoing out and flooring it 2-3 times to increase the air flow helps push the ash out
Haha, yep.... They're here! Just keep your diesels running clean people!.... Blowing soot puts a huge "black mark" on diesels as a whole. If everyone took care of their diesels the soot issue wouldn't have been pushed so far yet.
From what I'm learning I can not perform a manual re-gen on a Ford without taking it to a diesel shop. The chevy duramax you can by using the Banks iDash Monitor which is affordable
Great information. The only thing I would disagree with you on is your statement about lesser fuel mileage on the 6.7 power stroke. If I’m just driving it on the highway with no load I can get 18 and 19 miles to the gallon with it. That was the same story on the 2004 we had with the 6.0 L. They ran very similar on fuel mileage under the same driving conditions. Our 2004 was a three-quarter ton and now we have a 2017 1 ton. Of course all of this depends on a person‘s driving style. Using quality DEF helps keep the system clean also. I see nothing but problems with pouring straight water into it.
Before I deleted mine I ran a edge insight monitor. You can monitor all of this in real time. It's a must with a truck with dpf present. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have.
The DPF was added by the US Congress in 1997 because the big oil companies saw people making their own diesel fuel and using it. So to prevent that they got congress to pass the requirement by law for all diesels to have a DPF and it's corresponding sensors. The DPF is made to clog.. that's its real purpose.. don't believe me go ask a diesel mechanic who works on big diesels like buses and rigs they will tell you its a crock. Funny how these vehicles run perfectly fine on biodiesel when the stuff is removed as well as tens of thousands of farmers are running the trucks and stuff on biodiesel they made w/o any problems if they don't have a DPF on them. If biodiesel was bad to use in diesels, why would the law have an exemption for farm use vehicles?
Some of your info is off, but you bring up a good point. The EPA is trying to get people away from diesel pickup trucks. DPFs were not required until late 2007. Ford simply went to the 2008 model year early with the DPF equipped 6.4. I have a 1999 7.3 with no emissions stuff from the factory. I would run b20 biodiesel, but would never run waste vegetable oil (WVO), waste motor oil or any home brew fuel. Even if done right, those fuels are hard on injectors to the point where injector rebuilders wont warranty them if you run WVO.
Great video guys. But one thing is Running a Regen does not clean DPF. Running a regen turns soot to ash. Every regen completed fills the DPF substrate channels with ASH. Ash will create back PSI causing issues up stream. The filter will need to be removed for service at some point if you want a truly cleaned filter.
I learned something today if you down load forscan lite on your cell phone and have a Bluetooth ob2 scanner you can do a forced regen to your truck it worked on mine 2015 f250 6.7 it took about 26 minutes
This is what heavy diesel trucks do. That technology is finally coming down to residential use. Their were a couple of frieghtliners I did regens on where the driver just ignores the regen light and causes a mess of problems. All because of a simple fix and neglecting routine maintenance.
My dads 07 6.0L has 4” turbo back exhaust, egr delete, S&B cai and a 40hp two tune to eliminate the egr programming and it can get as low as 8.0L/100kms empty on the highway and doesn’t use urea or have a dpf.
I have emailed this guy 3 times and called once and left a message. The emails came back saying it was undeliverable even though I double checked the email address provided on his site. No call back from the phone call. I guess he has all the business he needs.
Bill, why dont you franchise your shop? Open up some satellite shops in different parts of the country. By different parts of the country I mean Dallas Fort Worth!
I've got a '15 class 8 freightliner cascadia with a dd15 liter Detroit they have the computer set up for parked regen only! no computer hook up required... just push a button on dash! why don't they do this for the pickups?
Here come the comments from everyone that's never stepped foot in a 6.7 about deleting it. They're pretty reliable emissions Diesel engines for the most part. I have had two 6.7's and I've never had any issues with either one. Yes, I agree the emissions stuff kills the performance. No shit. I know deleting it benefits the engine. Got that. Do I need more than 410horse/825lb ft of torque in my pickup? Nope. Got a semi for that. I've let both my 6.7's bone stock and if/when I get another, that one will be stock. I get more money in a trade for a stock lariat than a deleted and tuned truck that a dealer more than likely won't touch. This is my opinion. To each their own. I'd be willing to bet that cummins/duramac/powerstroke emissions problems are about the same in the number of occurrences(late model engines.). Do your maintenance and your truck will last no matter what brand.
This is why you should look into doing an EGR Delete! Another plus is pulling that 85 lbs EGR/Cat and go to a strait pipe! I had to put up with the Regen crap on my 2012 Peterbuilt... and it's a fuel mileage killer! Just so the Snowflakes don't see the diesel smoke out the exhaust... Love my 7.3, it's blows some really black smoke when I dial up stage 5 or 6 :)
You should let Mike do some more videos. I do a TON of manual regens where I am. I know if I scroll through the comments it is going to be delete, delete, delete. I do not have that option. The trucks I deal with have to be emissions compliant.
To reply to myself. You should do a vid about the potential consequences of deletes. I work on diesels from 7.3 to the most modern Benz and BMW. You are not going to delete a Benz or BMW. If you do a DPF delete be sure to sell your old one on Craigslist.
Thanks for starting to share content on the 6.7. What are you seeing as the primary week points in the engine, fuel system, turbo, emissions etc? I have a 2017 and want to stay ahead of as much as possible...
So I have a quick question about this process. I own a 7.3 but am always trying to expand my knowledge. If these systems are put on the newer trucks to keep the "pollution" from going into the environment. Wouldn't a regen burning it out put worse stuff into the environment during that process than just not having the system in the first place? Would a stock truck during the regen process pass emissions?
No, long story short. The DPF/DEF system uses urea as a catalyst to clean the exhaust soot and gases prior to ejection from the final exhaust exit. The exhaust is literally emitting cleaner air than the engine initially ingested. To answer the 2nd question, yes the vehicle would pass an E test during regen.
Damien: there are 4 main parts to an aftertreatment system. Doc dpf mixer and scr/amox. The doc is a flow through device that captures and burns unburned hydrocarbons. It also converts some Nox to the fast reaction no2. Also, carbon monoxide is reduced in the doc. The dpf captures ash and carbon particles. Regen gets enough oxygen and heat to burn that carbon down to a smaller ash and thus clean the system. The mixer / decomp tube is where the def is injected. The scr then does the final clean up where nh3 ammonia breaks down the Nox into nitrogen gas and water. The final part, amox helps protect the system from sending ammonia out into the environment
Bill, why don't you add the percent full PDF screen to the customers truck. Are you sure there is an extra injector on the Exhaust? I thought fords still dumped in extra on the Exhaust stroke. Excellent video Powerstroke Help is back.
They should have just put a switch or button on the truck somewhere to run a DPF clean-out! That would have eliminated a HUGE number of problems with them. But I know-gotta have cash flow PER QUARTER.
Many states will not allow deleted exhausts. Can't pass inspection. Also it's a big fine if you get caught And if it's a new truck, you void warranty. Bottom line is, if know how to handle your diesel truck you won't have any problems.
Charles Prince It sucks that because of the retards everyone else has to pay. I luckily live where we have no emissions and you could pass inspection with just about anything. Just hoping it stays that way.
My fire department has a 2015 F-550 and we do a manual regen every couple of weeks. There is a warning that tells us what the DPF status is and we regen as necessary. Our truck is a mini rescue and we do a lot of short distance driving in it. In hindsight we should have gone with a gas motor to eliminate this issue.
I have a 2008 6.4L with 111,000 miles. How do you feel about the DPF delete and what one would you recommend if any. Thank you for taking the time to put this channel together and put out straight info that cuts through all the BS
Yeah, nobody is going to deal with this shit. I bought a V10 and at 110,000 miles have not had to replace a single engine part, had a single issue of any kind. I pull a 13K lb. RV at 70 mph all day, just like my 7.3L would do... I see no benefit of even having a diesel pickup today.
It seams to me that Ford would have made a Manual Regen Button that the owner could activate himself. If I know I'm going to drive to the city, which is 70 miles, it would be a great time to do a manual regen. 70 miles of of 70mph freeway driving is long enough to do a regen isn't it??
I'll stick with my out dated, loud ,oil dripping 7.3 . They perfected the diesel engine after that the between the government and ford they needed you to buy more trucks . If you buy 1 truck that last a million miles it's money loss for them
So basically buy the Triton for the wifey as a runabout, and use the Powerstroke on long hauls. (BTW, this regen process reminds me of my old two stroke bike, where you had to burn out the exhaust ever 2-3 years.)
Never knew you could do a forced regen on the 6.7 great video. A question for you guy?? Why don't the have a button in them that you can do a parked regen like over the road trucks have? I know that would take business from you guys but just wondering why they don't do that??
Stuff like this is why Ford basically just said the heck with it and designed a new large displacement gas engine for their new smaller Super Duty trucks. A good decision for the customer.
Got 206k Mike's on my 2016 6.7 Got funny filter msg today about the filter. Never went into limp mode just the red filter warning. I guess I need manual Regen ....at dealership now
I think its kind of funny. Everytime i watch one of his video's, (which I like) there is a Chevy truck commercial in the beginning. Still will not change my Ford Truck.
I have a Diesel exhaust fluid failure code P207F-00 and all sensors are functioning I can’t get the forced 50mph to clear the only thing I can see that I have a question about is on the outside of rear passenger side frame has a gray connector just in front of the NOx module that’s on the inside of the frame. I have the male connector showing it is gray but I’m missing whatever the female connector is. No signs of anything being there just a male connector mounted by itself. Can you tell me what is supposed to be connected to it.
My cousin had a 6.4 it went through Regen while he was parked curbside at Walmart. Where he worked,when he came back out it had melted the front of the soda vending machine on the sidewalk
This entire exhaust system is a complete joke. The sensors are junk, the thought of having to use extra fuel to burn soot is beyond reprehensible. Not to mention the diesel exhaust fluid tank assembly is junk and components don't last. You want to enhance the performance of that truck, drop the entire exhaust system and straight pipe it from the cobra neck and watch how well it performs.
Jared I agree with you 100%. But our government says it's bad for air. That's why they came up with this crazy silly system. There should at least be a gauge for the driver to see if the filter is full or not. If I see it getting full maybe take a long way home.
I work for UPS. Any time i drive one of their diesel trucks it always goes into regen. I'm assuming because of all the stop and go the dpf is always getting filled up. Its a freightliner but i think they use a detuned cummins engine. I think its detuned becuase they aren't that fast but i had one that had power loss and it tripped the engine light on, once that light came on i had full power and the turbo spooled up like i never heard it before and the damn thing took off, faster than normal and ran great. Eventually it went back into normal mode.
It's almost like ford designed the exhaust to be removed easily 30 min and your deleted just store it in a safe place to put it back when you upgrade to newer truck
Ford? All new light diesel trucks have to regen. Doesn't matter if its a Duramax or Cummins. To meet EPA requirements they all have a DPF and that requires regen. It's not just Ford - but, then you didn't know that or you wouldn't have made your idiotic comment.
Question honestly bill said this had an injector in the exhaust for the regen and I didn't think ford ever did that. I know gm did. I know they have def injector but that doesn't have anything todo with fuel injection for regen.
DPF is hands down the biggest killer of diesel engines. Thank you Algore for saving us.
I'm just glad he invented the interweb!
Joe Henry sure is took the shot off also
You heard the man diesel trucks are made to work , all the wanna be truckers out there driving these trucks to the mall are the ones that screwed everything up , now that every other vehicle is a big ass diesel what did you expect
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Exactly, you got to drive these diesels. Not drive them 2 miles from house to grocery store once a week
How does it damage the engine though?
I don't even own a diesel truck but I love watching your videos, such a wealth of information. The situation you described where a dealership or shop will replace an engine but not find the cause of the failure or check the dpf, can be said for just about any shop on any vehicle. They fix the problem but do not fix the cause of the problem. Great information as always Bill.
Agree. I don't own one either.
KORRECTION - I made reference to a Injector for DPF in the exhaust and that is incorrect. There is an injector in the exhaust for DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) but not for DPF. So please EVERYBODY go to all the forums and roast me to your hearts content.
powerstrokehelp 😂 nah, just start working on 7.3’s again
I would only correct your spelling of the word CORRECTION. And also the possessive form of heart's.
I wish someone would figure a way to run watlow electrics eco-heat inline so the dpf could be more free flowing and have a new design, less regens
Is it too late to get in on the burrito action? :-P
I believe the GMC/Chevy has a 9th injector in the DPF.
These guys make it really hard not to go to them for ANY powerstroke issues! Wow! Great info! Great videos! Great work!
Crazy how much I learn from these videos.
I sure want a new truck, but my 2000 7.3 is still running so strong that I don't have the heart to retire it. I've used all Bills longevity tips from the simple radiator cap change too prolong in the high pressure injector pump. Thanks Bill. Did have to replace one major item. The seats. Wore them out so I put in a set of leather ones from a wrecked Lariat. I'm happy again lol. Long live the PowerStroke!
crruzzzer1 get a new one if you must but never trade in that 7.3 save the older truck for a spare I used to work at auto zone and these newer trucks have issues they will go into limp mode over any little issue.these newer truck have major power just amazing but the maft.have over energnerd them there just not reliable
I just picked up a 2016 F-350 6.7 at the urging of my wife. She was getting tired of our aging but well loved 97 7.3. I was hesitant at first but I've gotten used to the new-to-us truck. Now I've got to sell my old buddy (which I spent a fortune on over the 20 years we had it). Banks intercooler, Banks torque converter, Banks trans-command, D-Celerator exhaust brake, Edge programmer, pillar gauges, and much more. The new truck comes with all this stuff from the factory! Sigh . . . But I don't need two trucks, so one has to go.
I am on the exact same spot. I love the new F450, but hate that DPF and EGR.
Just another reason I want.a 99-03 7.3
Rickey Driskill 2000 7.3 140000 miles owned it since 60000 for sale.its mint but lifted. But bigger tires so front n back have 4.11 gears aftermarket built tranny it will tow the town of Reno.... no really I moved Reno to my back yard with this truck(damn I wish I had said backyard) my wife has 2012 f250.... def dpdookey problems alllllll the time. Rite now I am taking a 7.3liter crap b4 getting under her 6.7 to fix the mix senor n def bs
I'm so glad the DPF fell off my truck.
Mine too at 40000KM
Lol righ
Happen the same day your AR-15s fell in the lake? Tragic....
Atleast he is getting his burritos😁😁😁
Mike seems like a man who is in deep thought. Seem as tho it matters to him , not just puttin' in time on the clock.
Saving the environment, one plastic jug at a time
My DPF auto regens about 30 min post burrito
I think Mr Bill would agree with all of us to delete the system, but to stay safe he can't. Its funny all the hot rods and Harley Davidson with pipes deleted emissions running up down are roads with no worries. Love your post thumbs up keep them coming best power stroke channel going.
POWERSTROKES and burritos
POWERBURRITOS! or Burritostrokes. Depending on how spicy they are. LOL
I work on buses and they have a regen initiation switch in the engine compartment... very convenient.
I have no idea how wasting all this fuel during regen with the environmental cost of manufacturing DEF fluid and DEF bottles in the landfill.
How is this somehow better for the environment.??
Working in the class 8 world, for Kenworth, I have seen several dpf, scr, and engine related failures that caused damage to the pre-mentioned items. The factory was/is very diligent about completing the repair all the way down stream. So you can easily swing a $40k engine and put $14k in a dpf and doc set up. Gotta love the EPA!
I drove a test semi truck for freightliner and when we had to do a park regen there was something wrong with the regen!! Regen worked best when making Long hard pull's or in cruise control for a long period of time.
Leonard Calvert because a working motor produces enough heat to actually get the job done.
Leonard Calvert these smaller displacement engines may be able to effectively use a parked regen where as in a semi that just gets you by for a little while. The difference in 6.7 vs. 15 liters, ya know?
More Mikey! That guy is a picture of what a 21st century worker should be. I hope he's making a great living.
I'm going to for burritos, would you like one?.... Yes" 😂
As a truck driver we only do a static region on concrete, there's actually been cases where the oil in the asphalt has ignited. The diesel particulate filter can only be regen so much and then it has to be replaced
mosanders0574 wow that's crazy . I had an International that would force me to do a manual regeneration every day POS finally they fixed it one day. So glad my company truck now is a glider no emissions crap!!!
mosanders0574 and away from anything near the exhaust that could ignite. Buildings, trees, fences or other trucks.
mosanders0574 true but they can be regened 1000s of times. This guy is saying do it every 50 or 70k miles as preventive. Not that big of deal. If these Ford piece of crap don't have a problem in 50k miles I will be surprised.
My dad had that issue with his international. He regened 8 times in 400 miles.
Andy Hass funny I see so many of these 6.7ls with over 250,000 miles and no issues. One I’ve seen has 280,000 and no blowby, no replaced turbo nothing. It was deleted at 210,000 miles
Just bought a F-350 Lariat 2011. Whoever owned this truck before kept it in excellent condition and really took care of the truck maintenance since 2011. But 2 days after we bought it from Ford dealership, that "Drive to clean exhaust" message came on (We bought this truck because my wife and I are planning to get a 5th wheel but in the meantime we won't be driving far distances for probably the next 3 months) so I drove the truck non stop for about 20 miles and the drive to clean message disappeared from the Information option. It did not show that it was completed, but it hasn't come back on again. Maybe 'cause it got to a percentage where the computer says it's ok. I've read that some people had to drive for more than 45 minutes and still it wouldn't regen. I guess it just builds up if you just drive it short distances all the time. The truck runs super smooth and it's got great pick up when I need to speed up. I'm very pleased with it so far.
Don't have a diesel yet im doing my homework ....
people don't understand that it takes quite a bit to actually get these engines to temp. Not "water temp" but to get the oil full temp for long enough to vapor off the blow by / diesel that gets in the crank case / oil. Idling won't help, but people do it
Here in France we have diesel wich take fuel fill up at the pump to program regenerations.
So,if peoples go often at the gas station to fill up for few bucks only each time,the regen kick in very often.
Or an other known problem is a battery ,with a voltage dropping just enough to resetting the ecu memory ,but not enough to create starting problems,wich do not allow regen to being done,so create other problems.
6:30 - The spare tire should be partially lowered or removed as well to prevent the tire from getting damaged from the heat.
I love that Bill didn't edit out the burrito radio call.
Wow! Didn't know beans about the DPF system. Probably end up with one some day. Thanks for educating me on what to expect.
Only ford, how can something be 300 percent plugged lmao
With dpf's it happens.. 100 percent would be the whole face
Good video. Thx for the Help. I have a 2012 Ford f350 that went into def engine idle only mode. I'm also a semi truck driver. And deal with def regen all the time. So I replaced my MAF sensor because of engine light on. Then I basically manually egen'd my Ford by keeping the rpm's between 1500 and 2000. Ideally at 17-1800. I set a timer and it took 6 and half minutes and the def light turned off and my truck was able to drive away. If you dont believe me at 38 years old. Ask my mom that I drove off from. 👍 It's dumb we dont have manual regens available like we do on the semi trucks. Hope this helps. It worked for me. Also I don't have a computer. But it's been running ever since. I've sat on the side of the road in older Mack pinnacles while it has a button to manual regen. I did this process in my 2012 Ford f350 and have been running ever since.
it's obvious if you want trouble free operation of your 6.7 ..do your "deletes" period!!!
jimP71 In and around Atlanta they have emissions tests you can't delete.. although a buddy of mine did here in Fla. Milage almost doubled..
Well, yes, but its all illegal on a Federal level.
only some people can't because they live in areas where they have annual emission checks. But it does make the engine last longer that is for sure.
Or buy a Cummins.
yup! true that
damn bill you you put the fear of god into that boy mike. hope you're treating him well bill! you look scary to work for
Mikee and I have been friends for 20 years, He hates being filmed. It takes alot for him to get in front of the camera and talk.
powerstrokehelp bill your the best. Keep up the great videos. I wish your shop was close to Illinois. Hope those burritos where good.
powerstrokehelp you bribed him with burritos.
Bill seems like a bad ass guy to work for he messes around a decent amount if you pay attention in his vids, I'm sure he has high standards but that's why he's the powerstroke king!
i feel a DPF should have a service/manual regen every 20k, i find the controlled environment gives a nice clean burn and helps push ash out the tail pipe, and after the cooldown process i findgoing out and flooring it 2-3 times to increase the air flow helps push the ash out
Deleted my 6.4L when it had 3k miles. Been happy ever since.
adrianspeeder Nice. How many miles on your 6.4?
adrianspeeder how many miles on it now?
Well, yes, but its all illegal on a Federal level.
adrianspeeder 6.4 scares the crap out of me more than the 6.0 it's basically a MaxxForce 7
How many miles on it
Be aware, delete it comments are coming...
How does archoil help with the dpf???
Haha, yep.... They're here! Just keep your diesels running clean people!.... Blowing soot puts a huge "black mark" on diesels as a whole. If everyone took care of their diesels the soot issue wouldn't have been pushed so far yet.
Spahi77 the fuel additive increases the combustiblity of the diesel, hence less soot clogging the dpf over time.
From what I'm learning I can not perform a manual re-gen on a Ford without taking it to a diesel shop. The chevy duramax you can by using the Banks iDash Monitor which is affordable
Great information. The only thing I would disagree with you on is your statement about lesser fuel mileage on the 6.7 power stroke. If I’m just driving it on the highway with no load I can get 18 and 19 miles to the gallon with it. That was the same story on the 2004 we had with the 6.0 L. They ran very similar on fuel mileage under the same driving conditions. Our 2004 was a three-quarter ton and now we have a 2017 1 ton. Of course all of this depends on a person‘s driving style. Using quality DEF helps keep the system clean also. I see nothing but problems with pouring straight water into it.
Remind me again how all this extra engine running and messing around is good for the environment ?
Because they said so. Don't you understand how a socialist govt runs yet? Don't worry they'll tell how it works 😂
Hell my truck re-gens every day. It's a 2013 f250 with 240,000+ miles no problems
Trevor Sheppard how many miles are you at now?
Other problems like clogged filter. Then the whole DPF burns out. $5k later, a new one goes on, truck gets traded in on a new truck.
Egr cooler is leaking coolant into the exhaust system. That kills those filters.
Before I deleted mine I ran a edge insight monitor. You can monitor all of this in real time. It's a must with a truck with dpf present. Feel free to ask me any questions you may have.
Long live the 73...
I'm guna keep my 7.3 and 5.9, I try to stay as far away from this crap as possible!!
The DPF was added by the US Congress in 1997 because the big oil companies saw people making their own diesel fuel and using it. So to prevent that they got congress to pass the requirement by law for all diesels to have a DPF and it's corresponding sensors. The DPF is made to clog.. that's its real purpose.. don't believe me go ask a diesel mechanic who works on big diesels like buses and rigs they will tell you its a crock. Funny how these vehicles run perfectly fine on biodiesel when the stuff is removed as well as tens of thousands of farmers are running the trucks and stuff on biodiesel they made w/o any problems if they don't have a DPF on them. If biodiesel was bad to use in diesels, why would the law have an exemption for farm use vehicles?
Some of your info is off, but you bring up a good point. The EPA is trying to get people away from diesel pickup trucks.
DPFs were not required until late 2007. Ford simply went to the 2008 model year early with the DPF equipped 6.4.
I have a 1999 7.3 with no emissions stuff from the factory. I would run b20 biodiesel, but would never run waste vegetable oil (WVO), waste motor oil or any home brew fuel. Even if done right, those fuels are hard on injectors to the point where injector rebuilders wont warranty them if you run WVO.
Ford needs to absolutely provide a "parked regen option to these trucks. That's how the class A trucks are set up.
The ole p207f trick. Nox sensors hardly ever fail
Great video guys. But one thing is Running a Regen does not clean DPF. Running a regen turns soot to ash. Every regen completed fills the DPF substrate channels with ASH. Ash will create back PSI causing issues up stream. The filter will need to be removed for service at some point if you want a truly cleaned filter.
Dang I wish we had a MIKE, up here in Up State NY. ! 👍🇺🇸
GA,. is a long way to go to have your Diesel Truck checked out. ! Lol.
I learned something today if you down load forscan lite on your cell phone and have a Bluetooth ob2 scanner you can do a forced regen to your truck it worked on mine 2015 f250 6.7 it took about 26 minutes
This is what heavy diesel trucks do. That technology is finally coming down to residential use. Their were a couple of frieghtliners I did regens on where the driver just ignores the regen light and causes a mess of problems. All because of a simple fix and neglecting routine maintenance.
My dads 07 6.0L has 4” turbo back exhaust, egr delete, S&B cai and a 40hp two tune to eliminate the egr programming and it can get as low as 8.0L/100kms empty on the highway and doesn’t use urea or have a dpf.
I have emailed this guy 3 times and called once and left a message. The emails came back saying it was undeliverable even though I double checked the email address provided on his site. No call back from the phone call. I guess he has all the business he needs.
Mike is good mechanic, good work....
Bill, why dont you franchise your shop? Open up some satellite shops in different parts of the country. By different parts of the country I mean Dallas Fort Worth!
They do, They are called "Ford Dealerships" The big blue oval gives it away...
Do you have a history of all regenerations stocked on the ecu of each truck ?
a sort of datalogging ?
I've got a '15 class 8 freightliner cascadia with a dd15 liter Detroit they have the computer set up for parked regen only! no computer hook up required... just push a button on dash! why don't they do this for the pickups?
People will burn down their garage.
The public isn’t as well trained as a heavy duty truck driver
Here come the comments from everyone that's never stepped foot in a 6.7 about deleting it. They're pretty reliable emissions Diesel engines for the most part. I have had two 6.7's and I've never had any issues with either one. Yes, I agree the emissions stuff kills the performance. No shit. I know deleting it benefits the engine. Got that. Do I need more than 410horse/825lb ft of torque in my pickup? Nope. Got a semi for that. I've let both my 6.7's bone stock and if/when I get another, that one will be stock. I get more money in a trade for a stock lariat than a deleted and tuned truck that a dealer more than likely won't touch. This is my opinion. To each their own. I'd be willing to bet that cummins/duramac/powerstroke emissions problems are about the same in the number of occurrences(late model engines.). Do your maintenance and your truck will last no matter what brand.
I've never needed to do a forced Regen in my 2012 it regens automatically once or twice a week and has never given me a single problem
No burrito for Bill.
This is why I keep my 2003 6.0 Excursion since the day I put mile 1 on her. Kalifornia emissions rules suck!
This is why you should look into doing an EGR Delete! Another plus is pulling that 85 lbs EGR/Cat and go to a strait pipe! I had to put up with the Regen crap on my 2012 Peterbuilt... and it's a fuel mileage killer! Just so the Snowflakes don't see the diesel smoke out the exhaust... Love my 7.3, it's blows some really black smoke when I dial up stage 5 or 6 :)
You should let Mike do some more videos. I do a TON of manual regens where I am. I know if I scroll through the comments it is going to be delete, delete, delete. I do not have that option. The trucks I deal with have to be emissions compliant.
To reply to myself. You should do a vid about the potential consequences of deletes. I work on diesels from 7.3 to the most modern Benz and BMW. You are not going to delete a Benz or BMW. If you do a DPF delete be sure to sell your old one on Craigslist.
Is the unit loosing coolant? Oil contamination overheating los of power. Turbo issue? Lots of possibilities. Good video guys.
Thanks for starting to share content on the 6.7. What are you seeing as the primary week points in the engine, fuel system, turbo, emissions etc? I have a 2017 and want to stay ahead of as much as possible...
The DPF is the weak point
So I have a quick question about this process. I own a 7.3 but am always trying to expand my knowledge. If these systems are put on the newer trucks to keep the "pollution" from going into the environment. Wouldn't a regen burning it out put worse stuff into the environment during that process than just not having the system in the first place? Would a stock truck during the regen process pass emissions?
I think its just for visual effect, the hippies dont like it when they see a truck with a big plume of black smoke coming out of the tail pipe
No, long story short. The DPF/DEF system uses urea as a catalyst to clean the exhaust soot and gases prior to ejection from the final exhaust exit. The exhaust is literally emitting cleaner air than the engine initially ingested. To answer the 2nd question, yes the vehicle would pass an E test during regen.
Damien: there are 4 main parts to an aftertreatment system. Doc dpf mixer and scr/amox. The doc is a flow through device that captures and burns unburned hydrocarbons. It also converts some Nox to the fast reaction no2. Also, carbon monoxide is reduced in the doc.
The dpf captures ash and carbon particles. Regen gets enough oxygen and heat to burn that carbon down to a smaller ash and thus clean the system.
The mixer / decomp tube is where the def is injected.
The scr then does the final clean up where nh3 ammonia breaks down the Nox into nitrogen gas and water. The final part, amox helps protect the system from sending ammonia out into the environment
Bill, why don't you add the percent full PDF screen to the customers truck.
Are you sure there is an extra injector on the Exhaust? I thought fords still dumped in extra on the Exhaust stroke.
Excellent video Powerstroke Help is back.
They should have just put a switch or button on the truck somewhere to run a DPF clean-out! That would have eliminated a HUGE number of problems with them. But I know-gotta have cash flow PER QUARTER.
Many states will not allow deleted exhausts. Can't pass inspection. Also it's a big fine if you get caught And if it's a new truck, you void warranty. Bottom line is, if know how to handle your diesel truck you won't have any problems.
Charles Prince It sucks that because of the retards everyone else has to pay. I luckily live where we have no emissions and you could pass inspection with just about anything. Just hoping it stays that way.
1000 degrees 😳😳
I have read that a Banks or Snow water meth injection system helps clean out the DPF and EGR downstream.
My fire department has a 2015 F-550 and we do a manual regen every couple of weeks. There is a warning that tells us what the DPF status is and we regen as necessary. Our truck is a mini rescue and we do a lot of short distance driving in it. In hindsight we should have gone with a gas motor to eliminate this issue.
13:04 - or a fuel injector that could be injecting too much fuel, or not sealing properly, and the extra fuel results in quicker soot build-up.
I have a 2008 6.4L with 111,000 miles. How do you feel about the DPF delete and what one would you recommend if any. Thank you for taking the time to put this channel together and put out straight info that cuts through all the BS
Yeah, nobody is going to deal with this shit. I bought a V10 and at 110,000 miles have not had to replace a single engine part, had a single issue of any kind. I pull a 13K lb. RV at 70 mph all day, just like my 7.3L would do...
I see no benefit of even having a diesel pickup today.
It seams to me that Ford would have made a Manual Regen Button that the owner could activate himself. If I know I'm going to drive to the city, which is 70 miles, it would be a great time to do a manual regen. 70 miles of of 70mph freeway driving is long enough to do a regen isn't it??
I drive for ups, the diesel trucks we have has a manual regen button right on the dash, never need to hit it though because it regens all day lol
dberg1964 yes it is but they never want to regen until you get to where your going every time i deleted mine
I'll stick with my out dated, loud ,oil dripping 7.3 . They perfected the diesel engine after that the between the government and ford they needed you to buy more trucks . If you buy 1 truck that last a million miles it's money loss for them
Is there a tuner out there that can allow the owner of the truck to manually regen?
So basically buy the Triton for the wifey as a runabout, and use the Powerstroke on long hauls.
(BTW, this regen process reminds me of my old two stroke bike, where you had to burn out the exhaust ever 2-3 years.)
Never knew you could do a forced regen on the 6.7 great video. A question for you guy?? Why don't the have a button in them that you can do a parked regen like over the road trucks have? I know that would take business from you guys but just wondering why they don't do that??
Stuff like this is why Ford basically just said the heck with it and designed a new large displacement gas engine for their new smaller Super Duty trucks. A good decision for the customer.
Yea if u want 9 mpg
@@davecarroll4086 you get 9 mpg with the power joke so who cares 😂
Got 206k Mike's on my 2016 6.7
Got funny filter msg today about the filter.
Never went into limp mode just the red filter warning.
I guess I need manual Regen ....at dealership now
Ford says you have to have the hood open when you do a manual regen. I didn't see a hood open.
want a burrito, yes, truck backs out of shop with hood up.
I think its kind of funny. Everytime i watch one of his video's, (which I like) there is a Chevy truck commercial in the beginning. Still will not change my Ford Truck.
I have a Diesel exhaust fluid failure code P207F-00 and all sensors are functioning I can’t get the forced 50mph to clear the only thing I can see that I have a question about is on the outside of rear passenger side frame has a gray connector just in front of the NOx module that’s on the inside of the frame. I have the male connector showing it is gray but I’m missing whatever the female connector is. No signs of anything being there just a male connector mounted by itself. Can you tell me what is supposed to be connected to it.
I love these videos. I will be looking to purchase a new truck next year. I've considered a diesel, are the new powerstrokes reliable???
My cousin had a 6.4 it went through Regen while he was parked curbside at Walmart. Where he worked,when he came back out it had melted the front of the soda vending machine on the sidewalk
This entire exhaust system is a complete joke. The sensors are junk, the thought of having to use extra fuel to burn soot is beyond reprehensible. Not to mention the diesel exhaust fluid tank assembly is junk and components don't last. You want to enhance the performance of that truck, drop the entire exhaust system and straight pipe it from the cobra neck and watch how well it performs.
Jared I agree with you 100%. But our government says it's bad for air. That's why they came up with this crazy silly system. There should at least be a gauge for the driver to see if the filter is full or not. If I see it getting full maybe take a long way home.
Well, yes, but its all illegal on a Federal level.
Garth who cares......
actually, the DEF system allows for less EGR....means more power!!!! Just needs to drive more...
ILEGAL!
6:48 "Perform this procedure with the hood open".
I work for UPS. Any time i drive one of their diesel trucks it always goes into regen. I'm assuming because of all the stop and go the dpf is always getting filled up. Its a freightliner but i think they use a detuned cummins engine. I think its detuned becuase they aren't that fast but i had one that had power loss and it tripped the engine light on, once that light came on i had full power and the turbo spooled up like i never heard it before and the damn thing took off, faster than normal and ran great. Eventually it went back into normal mode.
First mistake, taking your truck to the Ford Stealership for emissions problems, you are going to shuck out at least $6K
It's almost like ford designed the exhaust to be removed easily 30 min and your deleted just store it in a safe place to put it back when you upgrade to newer truck
I sold my 6.4 and I will never do another diesel .
Wow I wonder how many wildland fires ford has caused
Ford? All new light diesel trucks have to regen. Doesn't matter if its a Duramax or Cummins. To meet EPA requirements they all have a DPF and that requires regen. It's not just Ford - but, then you didn't know that or you wouldn't have made your idiotic comment.
You can blow straight ether into the intake while it's running.
Its good for the pistons
Question honestly bill said this had an injector in the exhaust for the regen and I didn't think ford ever did that. I know gm did. I know they have def injector but that doesn't have anything todo with fuel injection for regen.
There should be a DPF filter exchange program
Cretens they should be easier to clean completely without removing them from the vehicle.
Thanks for the post keep up the good work.
If you have to delete the DPF/SCR system, you didn't need the diesel engine in the first place.
What are you a fucking democrat or what buddy?
Good to know.