SECRETS OF STANLEY MEYER'S WFC - Lecture 1.1
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- Part 1 of a series of Lectures on Stanley Meyer's Water Fuel Cell
Technology. This video offers new insight into the funtioning of the Water Fuel Injection System, in an attempt to show how it's possible to
opperate an internal combustion engine using only water. - Věda a technologie
THIS IS AWSOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I have been trying to convince people that Stanley Meyer's was on to something but they have the law of conservation so deeply embedded into their head that they refuse to belive it. This video should change some minds. THANKS agian so muc!!! and keep it up!!! =)
oh this is probably the best explanation on the systen so far! .. super nice of you to do this thanx!
I have studied this electrolysis for years, yet everyday I still learn something new that i didn't understand before. I am open minded but not gulible. Tom Ogle, charles pogue, Stanley meyer and others who are dead today, paved the way for others to use energy more efficiantly, without waste without dependancy to have others produce it for them. Point is , anyway you can do that, without polluting, producing carbon or caustic chemicals, is admirable and responsible.
Truly outstanding work. Thank you for sharing your point if view- of Stanley Meyers works. Stanley Meyers works are incredibly interesting.
"The multipactor effect is a phenomenon in radio frequency (RF) amplifier vacuum tubes and waveguides, where, under certain conditions, secondary electron emission in resonance with an alternating electric field leads to exponential electron multiplication, possibly damaging and even destroying the RF device." - wikipedia. Farnsworth's patents. Several diagrams in Meyer's patents resemble many of Farnsworth's ideas. Figure 1-13 (Meyer) looks like a Fusor...
so awesome....one of the best vids I have seen. Thanks my friend for making this vid.
The main problem to overcome in trying to use hydroxl in place of gasoline is the extended burn time of gasoline in a 4 cycle engine process, many times burning all the way into the end of the exhaust cycle into the exhaust pipe,as observed on drag racing engines . Hydroxl in an exothermic reaction goes to an endothermic reaction well before the end of the power stroke. The only thing that will extend the power stroke is more nitrogen or argon mixed into the ambient air and the hydroxl.
Does it really need the laser, and the gas to be created right in the piston ?
The funny thing is I think you have gotten what stanley was trying to do. Stanley initially produced the tube style electrolyzer to see if his theories on water seperation were correct and to trick the patent office into granting him the patent on such technologies that came about of it. The patents office did in fact give him the patents on such technology and then came the real patent of the spark plug style. Which was his ultimate goal.
Keep going you are getting close.
Part 2!!!!! MORE MORE MORE! Thank you
I am waiting for the prototypes and the videos from that as well. Keep his dream alive. It does work but when you got big oil and all the others who were taught the old way, before we started to really understand what science is evolving in to today, you couldn't possibly win and unfortunately Stanley paid the ultimate price.
The only way we are gonna see this everywhere is with people like you who take that idea and expand on it.
The ionized gases were made so in the magnetron of the air processor unit. they were introduced thru the carburetor.The injectors only introduced water vapor(not steam)which was added by solenoid control during accelloration and microprocessor(rockwellf8)assisted. The electrode was made from s/s304, as well as the casing and cathode. The center insulator was MACOR. He chose a converging wave guide of the three in his patent app. see more at: rwgresearch
Thank you very much for making this video :) I've studied Stanley Meyer's "Water Powered Dune Buggy" for quite some time, and your video really explain the heart of the system. I look forward to watching all of your video's. Also- check out the GEET Fuel Processor at GEET International and GEET Friends home pages. When GEET is built proper, and the bubler remains under a vacuum(lowers the boiling point of water), rather than a positive pressure, The GEET will use water as a fuel, when mixed with
This is correct ,good posting .
Its sad to see less and less people interested in this.... i was just thinking about this the other day how drops of water (pulsed) through a conductor develops a high voltage... sooooo.... wellll what happens to water when PULSED with voltage. If it can create a reaction it will react in reverse...
Much obliged. this video really helped me.
great research - thank you for sharing! keep up the research - the answer is there ;)
1) I think we can all agree that HHO burns and can work as an alternative fuel to gasoline in a normal combustion engine.
2) It would appear that Stan Meyer's injector concept is merely an "HHO injector" mechanism that uses exhaust gas as a pressurizing element, HHO (created form another place, not AT the injector) as "fortifier", and water that when passed across positive and negative fields creates HHO gas just prior to injection into the cylinder.
Thanks for breaking this down
Continued: To see video's of the GEET Fuel Processor here on you tube, Search Paul Pantone GEET. I also like that we don't have to use any electrolyte with the Stanley Meyer Fuel Cell, whereas now; all other HHO systems require Sodium Hydroxide(Lye) or Potasium Hydroxide or a number of other electrolytes. Stanley Meyers water fuel cell also remains ambient temperature(room temperature), rather than getting hot like all other HHO cells, which often operate at approximately 180 degrees Fahrenheit.
In a demonstration made before Professor Michael Laughton, Dean of Engineering at Mary College, London, Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin, a former controller of the British Navy, and Dr Keith Hindley, a UK research chemist. Meyer's cell, developed at the inventor's home in Grove City, Ohio, produced far more hydrogen/oxygen mixture than could have been expected by simple electrolysis.
Thanks so much for posting this. It seems a lot like Watchit Technologies fuel reformer. Watchit takes conventional fuel and further cracks it to make more hydrogen available for combustion.
Indeed is all from water ionized. Low current is required to get H3O (+) and OH ( -) by proton "slide". I use the therm of protolysis for that part of reaction since only protons are exchanged.So call HHO or oxy-hydrogen , from electrolysis - an explosive gas - is only the igniter and initiator of cascade electro-chemical reaction inside the cylinder where pressure and heat are promotors of further -more efficient - electrolysis and Hydrogen production from acid H3O.Good explanation!
Why don't we have this device on the market if there is so much understanding of it?
how or where did you find these drawings?
Incredible explanation. Query. If much of the power to drive the piston down is from the conversion of water to steam then why the introduction of non combustible gases. The higher heat produced by the hydrogen should have a much greater ability to convert a larger volume of water into steam. Is it due to hydrogen having a burn speed far faster than gasoline so Mr. Meyers was worried about engine damage.
Continued: When mixed with gasoline which helps the engine to start. Once the GEET engine is warm, the primary fuel is water, which becomes what inventor Paul Pantone calls Plasma, after the orinary water has gone through the GEET reactor. If you could make a video of Paul Pantone's GEET Reactor and explain in the same detail and clear precise process, it would be fantastic. Keep in mind- that even when GEET is not built proper, it still runs on gasoline vapors alone, rather than liquid droplets
I believe that this avenue has merit. I believe that with the price of gas ever increasing, the only way to win at this game is to change the rules. This means that there will be technical challenges that will be overcome, and personally believe that these hurdles will be overcome most likely by the garage engineer just trying to save money within his most important economy, his own. In reviewing the documentation from Stan's patent's, does anyone really think that this would be awarded today?
Any info on when you'll be posting part 2?
thanks for the explanation.
You are onto the right track, if you look at my diagram it will show the basic system. I am at present building the second of my engines, all be it on a budget, not as before. I will be changing some of the system due to the cost of especially made parts but I am sure that the end result will be the same. The fuel is a rich gaseos water, the gases are hydrogen and oxygen, when injected in a spray form into a high voltage plasma field the gas explodes.
Nice vid.
I do have to say, what interested me about Meyer is how very much came from rocketry. electric ISP systems, even special coatings systems.
Look into MagnetoPlasmaDynamics, Lorentz thrusters.
This is what Meyers has described here, with net+ water and his resultant ionized oxyhydrogen (from the other hybridized system). Behaving as his conductive fuel.
I believe 1800 is the calc for steam not fracture?
When the gas explodes the water spray also splits and explodes and so you have a continuing on going reaction. Compresed air is fed into the burner tube at an angle to form a helix flow and so mix the water spray, gases and air together so as when the gases explode they do not totally recombine to form water. The burner tube was preheated by injecting propane gas to start the system from cold, once the burner tube was hot the propane was turned off and the burn self sustained on water only.
Stan Meyer's car actually runs on quantum physics. When a particle is ionized it can travel from point A to point B with out existing between points A and B. This defies Newtonian Physics where a particle must travel between the two points. When a particle jumps between points A to B without existing in between the points it is called a quantum leap.
Meyer's ionizer takes advantage of the energy within the quantum leap basically creating a quantum slingshot that propels the piston.
is there anyway to get real schematics on this so i could build one. i built a hho generator last year but did not use a PWM and had too much amp draw
Where normal water electrolysis requires the passage of current measured in amps, Meyer's cell achieves the same effect in milliamps. Furthermore, ordinary tap water requires the addition of an electrolyte such as sulphuric acid to aid current conduction; Meyer's cell functions at greatest efficiency with pure water.
the non-combustible gas is used to "dope" the hydrogen to make it burn at the same rate as normal petroleum gas, so it can be retrofitted to existing car engines. Stan did this by feeding the engines exhaust gas back into the injector system.
Where normal Faraday type water electrolysis requires the passage of current measured in amps, Meyer's type water electrolysis achieves the same effect in milliamps. Furthermore, ordinary tap water requires the addition of an electrolyte such as sulphuric acid to aid current conduction; Meyer's cell functions at greatest efficiency with pure water.
Have u done the running of the any engine jon the base concept. I like to see video of running things.
Excellent! The best approach Yet! But please.. post the document or at least a link to it so we can read along with you :-)... And now.. How to put the theory to work.. Any First Steps???
6:09 I thought the addition of the non-combustible gases was necessary to control the burn rate of the Hydrogen. Can you clarify? What does gtnt stand for? Where is lecture two?
I believe you are correct in all you say....however, I believe a crucial part is missing in your understanding. Stan made hydrogen prior to the water injector plug...in fact he had many series cells. I would encourage you to look up "Atomic Hydrogen Welding"....it is an old method of arc welding...where molecular hydrogen (H2) is passed through a 300v arc...this splits it into atomic hydrogen (2H) when the atomic hydrogen re-associates to molecular hydrogen it releases over 3500 degrees..OU!
I have my new set up well under construction and soon I will give a video of the different parts. I am working on the plasma system at the moment, which s proving more difficult when I have to use off the shelf parts or make them myself.
well explained, where's lesson 2, looking forward to it, cheers.
His patents are free to download almost anywhere on the net. You would be better off with an AF (audio frequency) sweeper made of a 555 timer. Meyers never used frequencies above 20 khz. Although this is entirely based on the space between the plates. The closer they are, the higher the frequency needed to create "resonant action" or in layman's terms, multipaction.
@fsoiberg Look for the video of the buggy with the big VIC control setup mounted in the windscreen.
One factor that should be taken in to consideration is NOX as non-conbustible gas, NOX being created from the super heating of nitrogen from ambient air.. Nitrogen gets returned from exhaust
I don't get how he was balancing positiv with positive. The aspect of the ionized gas, wouldn't he be balancing negative to positive? Or
where can i find those images?
thanks...
My logic has thought that as the space at the top of the piston to be around 100 ml or 100 cm3, so 1800 cm3(expanded water gasses of one cm3 ) - 100 cm3(piston space at top dead center) = 1700 cm3 of pressurized gasses. Take the 1700 cm3 / 100 cm3 = 17 to get the multiplication factor above pressure at sea level 14.7 lbs/in2 X 17 = 250 lbs/in2 just from the first action of the disassociation of water. The other process steps that follow could lead to a 3 to 10 times multiplication factor above that 250 lbs/in2. At minimum the pressures could be 750 lbs/in2 or psi, you can move a car with that for sure. At maximum 2500 lbs/in2 or psi with a piston surface area of 1.5in squared x 3.14 = 4.71 in2 surface area. The numbers are minimum 3533 lbs and max of 11775 lbs on the piston head in an instant that is performance.
a magnetic or static field is natraly formed in the hydrogen /water vapor ,,just like the lazor is a concentration of protons with a cathod that that has the helium neon since the two gasses in a lazor are different weights they stay relative apart till excited a ruby is intro ducted for color to see the beam
The Hydrogen Fracturing Process: The basis of this process is the subjection of the water molecule to very high voltage (20,000+) pulses at a particular frequency and within positively and negatively charged voltage zones at a very low current of less than 1 milliamp.
really nicely presented video, where's part 1.2?
Present at the pump US gasoline is mainly water and surfactants. As compared to 1960's era pre-'73 Yom Kippur War and OPEC Oil Embargo gasoline at the pump, present US gasoline has characteristics similar to water & hydrogen. During the engine compression cycle all but the lightest gas elements return to a liquid form and subsequent to detonation expand driving the cylinder. WW II fighter pilot Herman Pleasant Anderson said this technology is functional. United States Patent 6,119,651
@2012jakjones cant check what you asking at moment but will let you know i would have to watch it again
what I understood is that the power liberated equals E=mc^2, m = mass of missing electrons at ignition.
It is a negatively charged cell, the objective is not HHO, it is an ion/plasma energy created from hole doping (electron removal.) small burst of positive excites the water molecules and ejects electrons from the atoms, the electrons are drawn out of the water by leaving the negative always hooked up,? the positive ions in the battery attract the electrons.
That and I believe the point of ionized gas (from the laser) was to keep the oxy and hydro from recombining, as well as having to use less energy to split the h2o, as the ionized gas would help the electrical field destabilize the h2o by trying to rob its electrons away.
stan reinvented the steam engine.
he heats the water to steam almost instantly thus able to inject steam throughout the power stroke.
He was working on a "transmutation" device that just so happen to be able to get an ice engine to work. Aloha
how can a read the full blue prints and lectures notes of this man's work?
TRY IT OUT FIRST BEFORE YOU DOUT IT GUYS . THERE SO MUTCH GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING AND THAT CAN COME FREE FREE ENERGY INVENTIONS . just put your foot foward.
i want to download the Stanley Meyers movies related to the fuel injector and i look for the place to do this.
i use to download from youtube but this seems to be past time now.
all advice and links are welcome, so are all ideas and visions that can help to replicate and improve this technology
As for the laser analogy - I don't see an "avalanche effect". Band structure is altered by ionization, and is sometimes conducive to lasing. But ionization and lasing are not the same effect! Also, free energy is theoretically impossible on so many levels. Even beyond conservation of energy...Thermo & statistical Mechanics & even quantum could be brought into this! Physicists do understand that PV work is done when you break up a molecule, and yet the conservation of energy is still true.
Stan Meyer was not a con-artist, and AFAIK was never successfully sued for fraud. If his patents are unclear it is not because he was trying to hide anything from other inventors, it is because the patent office frequently refused to allow his patents as originally written. Nevertheless, his inventions all ran as claimed. It is hard to reproduce his results because circuits must be tuned, materials must be prepared in special ways, etc.
stones mentioned the original video for the reaction of boron, why not see them in this video?
I have the original plans for the injectors manufactured in the uk by an associate of Stans,john prendeville. I made 5 of them and tested them in a 1650cc vw engine,the same as stan used. there isnt enough hp made to move the buggy(a 76 manx chassis,same as stan used,same weight class) under its own sustained power. There are no vid clips with the injection system attached,only the ones with the wfc's in use.
@juggernautxtr no this vid is totally wrong. he had shown how he had to mix impurities into the HHO (browns gas) so that it wouldnt melt the engine. the HHO was made way before the combustion chamber. It was actually made near the water fuel cell itself. There is a vid on here that shows his fuel cell making the gas before having impurities mixed with it.
If I got this correctly, the principle of this water engine-cycle is to pyrolise water in its components hydrogen and oxygen (endothermal! = consumes energy), using the work of the expanding volume 1:1.800 from water to gases and to reburn it again using the exothermal energy of the reaction O2 + 2xH2 to 2xH2O? But this cycle wouldn´t deliver any usable power as the balance of work and/or heat equals to zero, provided an ideal (= adiabatic and frictionless) process . Who can explain that?
UV light ranges are known to dissociate water by themselves, and other compounds as well. In fact they are known to elevate the energy levels in a simple spark of electricity. Combining the input of Light, Sound, and Electricity, and Magnetism is the sum of Meyers and Puharich's work in the water fuel cell uses. Meyer shed the light onto Puharich's work. Pun intended.
Nuclear, wind, sun and hydro plants can be used to charge an array of 12 volt batteries for example 10 small 40 amp hour batterys = 120 volts. at that voltage could use 10 amps to get 4 or 5 liters a minute no need for pwm (but should improve output) no need to remove 500,000,000. combustion engines ,
Mixing air with the hydrogen and oxygen creats an inbalance in the perfect ratios for reforming water and so the resulting explosion does not form an implosion and the temperature rises to create super heated steam forming an ongoing reaction.
where can i go to college to study this?
Interesting analysis.
Now grab a calculator and show us that you get more useful work (expansion, thermal combustion, etc) out of the system than what you put in.
You'll show that and the world is yours to take...
i get all this, sounds great..has anyone reproduced it yet?
there is a plasma combustion engine that is a closed cylinder meaning no in or out put of gas or air s it is an exspandsion and contraction vacuum effect but the magnetic coil is around the plasma to focuse the flash and it is a director effect if i could get some kind of magnetic field that did not use so much in ballanceing the plasma to keep it from the side walls of the cylinder it would use less electricity
John Keely thats all im gonna say... he did this back in the day.
I don't believe this to be a hoax but I'm still stuck on trying to understand. So how exactly is the energy output system greater than the energy input required to treat the water? I just need a bit more info. thx
Zer0PointUnlimited, "Stan made hydrogen prior to the water injector plug..."
He did make it in another way before using his injector but after he made the injector, the injector is all that was used for the conversion. He was able to replace spark plugs on any motor and install the injector in their place and then use water to fuel the engine with out using another electrolyzer. I do believe he used pre-energized water but I am not 100% sure as of yet.
If you truly wish to understand the science behind this technology I posted it here on this site: www.aboveunity.com/thread/water-as-fuel-and-more/
simular to the plasma vapor effects be for the ignition is set off
layers of voltages in pulse form rapidly exspands these water partical to change to hydrogen ionized vapor to condensed hydrogen via the non non combustion gas as positive and negative electrons when the non gas mixs the vapor is turned to hydrogen
Ok guys, lets see about this. If we put 1,000watts of chemical energy into a car engine, we get 350w of kinetic out (friction losses etc.) now put 350w kinetic into alternator, we get 250w electrical out, so how does 250w electrical give us 1000w chemical, just to keep itself running, plus 10,000w to push car?
I suggest everyone into this stuff get a small 110 to 12 volt transformer. Supply it with the lawton circuit or actually any pwm circuit... run it backwards so you are using the 110 side.... now get some stainless wire for a wire feed welder. This is important you cant have sharp edges or leakage points. But loop the wires and now place a drop of distilled water somewhere... slowly bring the two loops together into the distilled water. SUPER HEATED. Theres yer answer
when, please?
@Iseekoutthetruth Stanley Meyer wrote a book called:
" The Birth Of New Technology Using Water As Fuel "
Try searching the title, I found a PDF version on google:
waterfuelcell. org/phpBB2/download. php?id=816
You call it a WASER (water amplification by stimulated emission of radiation). ;)
Two words ......Collins diode!
by "doping" hydrogen can be made to burn at the same rate as any other gas.
wered his dune buggy go and the engine ????
Stan Meyer filed for patent protection of his ideas. It seems completely understandable that he might seem less than genuine when describing his intellectual property. I don't think it's fair to characterize the man as being disingenuous or dishonest because he has a desire to profit from his great ideas.
Build it and find out for yourself
But why hasn’t anyone replicate this? I’m sure anyone can considering his background.
if you only knew the magnificence of 3, 6 & 9.... :)
If you want to get the plans
to convert your car to HHO
go to Google and search for:
"Top HHO Gas Car Research"
Click the first result (skip the Advertisement)
the problem with Stan Meyers technology is that it has being fractured into small pieces what gives an unclear picture now, we all want this technology to come onto the marked world wide, so we should join our forces to develop this again and improve it, we can not make the mistake Stan has made, we need to spread this technology over the net so OPEC can not kill the technology again.
if we do this that way, the politics on energy have to change in our favor.
I'm not sure this guy knows what's going on. What I wonder is about the spark. Did they use a different spark plug or did the compression of the piston make the spark
Correction not “within the piston” rather within the cylinder you mean.
I need to sign & submit the P.O. to subcontract Air Force Amy to support me on this project
What remains of a man just a puzzle and a lot of those unsuccessfully trying to figure out something that one man managed to figure out which is born every 100 years and until 2111 when will be born by chance that it will crush the car on oil
yeah,stable molecule...but why it is a liquid ? check all other hydrides from this group.
Further still the Law of thermal dynamics that most people concern themselves with does not fully explain the amount of energy that can be released from Water. If you look at the hydrogen bomb what other factors apply.. Also, to further expand this DO you even now how many different states there are of Hydrogen there are... Doubtful. Because if you did you would end your decent and investigate how to make use of it. This goes beyond high school "elementary" science which the uninformed site.