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Incredible explanation. Query. If much of the power to drive the piston down is from the conversion of water to steam then why the introduction of non combustible gases. The higher heat produced by the hydrogen should have a much greater ability to convert a larger volume of water into steam. Is it due to hydrogen having a burn speed far faster than gasoline so Mr. Meyers was worried about engine damage.

I don't get how he was balancing positiv with positive. The aspect of the ionized gas, wouldn't he be balancing negative to positive? Or

If I got this correctly, the principle of this water engine-cycle is to pyrolise water in its components hydrogen and oxygen (endothermal! = consumes energy), using the work of the expanding volume 1:1.800 from water to gases and to reburn it again using the exothermal energy of the reaction O2 + 2xH2 to 2xH2O? But this cycle wouldn´t deliver any usable power as the balance of work and/or heat equals to zero, provided an ideal (= adiabatic and frictionless) process . Who can explain that?

Can we see your car?

The information below is derived from the work of genius twin brothers Stanley and Stephen Meyer.Many years of study,reading 42 patents and endless hours of Meyer lectures, documentaries and radio shows gives me the chance to show the heart of their research. If you want to run your car on water then this is a viable and realistic set of stages to go through to achieve such a goal.. First you must ask yourself why has it not been done in this day and age..A car combustion system that can access the large amount of energy available in electrolysis gas from water. It is commonly known as Faraday electrolysis. It has high mass conversion losses. Mainly heat.This process alone is a poor option as an engine will not produce enough electricity output to power an electrolysis unit to supply enough gas from the water to realistically cover the car engine's energy requirements.. Many have tried electrolysis gas production methods with very limited success. So what are the steps to rethink this problem?.. Step 1 Striving for a highly efficient electrolysis cell is the first step. Your electrolysis cell will not make enough gas to keep the engine running from the car's electrical output.But this is the first step.And the more efficient you make your cell. Be it through the physical construction or efficient driving circuit,or both Step number 2. As in step number one you can make gas from your electrolysis cell. This gas fuel starts as water and is converted to gas. The gas is fed into the combustion zone where the second conversion takes place..In the second conversion the gas is converted back to water,with a given amount of energy release.This is the water to gas and gas to water conversions or energy states. Step three. We know by now that the first conversion.Water to gas is energy intensive and has a large amount of losses.This is where many hundreds of hours have been spent by people trying endless ways to improve the efficiency of electrolysis. Without taking into account they are dealing with not one mass convention in making the gas. But two mass conventions. Water to gas and gas back to water. This second energy conversion has been mainly overlooked by the majority of people studying in this area. So we must take a closer look at this second conversion to see if there are any ways of improving the reaction efficiency at the point of combustion.. Step 3 Conversion factors for gas to water. It is not well known that the conversion factors for gas to water with an amount of energy released through combustion.This only releases one millionth of the available energy that is in the gases. That is having their mass converted back to water. This is a chain reaction and is quickly shut down and reaches a stable state. The chemicals involved hydrogen and oxygen reach a stable state achieving mass conversion gas to water H2O. At this point the available mass to energy window is closed. By converting the gas back to water..This water should be then looked on as a waste product of the combustion event.. Step 4 What could be done to reduce this waste byproduct (water). In theory if you had a 100 percent conversion gas to explosive energy during the second conversion. You would not have any waste. All the gases would be burnt and there would be no byproduct water post combustion.. Step 5 How can this be done? How can we access this chain reaction event and improve its efficiency. If we could improve this mass conversion, just a fraction of a percent. This would vastly reduce the gas input needed. To attain the amount of energy required to run the engine..Less gas is what you will require as opposed to, insufficient gas is the problem. Note! Yes, correct Faraday electrolysis makes a gas that you can only access one millionth of its energy through combustion.… Step 6 How do we look at this inefficient combustion process and make improvements?.. (Chemical reactions!) Improving combustion to burn more of the available gases. This step is key! What is going on during the combustion moment? Ignition occurs.This sets off a chain reaction that will convert the gas mass back to a liquid mass.(Water). In turn with an amount of explosive energy. As we already know the explosive energy only accounts for one millionth of the possible available energy in the gas fuel. So how do we come up with a system to access more energy from the given amount of fuel? Step 7...Controlling the combustion event to access larger amounts of energy that are available.. This is done by controlling the combustion moment and extending the chemical reaction in a way to prolong energy release from the gas as it turns to water. One must note. Is a combustion engine not a pump. It creates a vacuum at the input manifold and creates a positive pressure at the exhaust manifold. Hydrogen and oxygen from water is the perfect fuel.Two parts Hydrogen to one part Oxygen.This is the perfect fuel to oxidiser ratio needing no other elements for combustion just fuel with oxidizer. To achieve control of the combustion event you have to control and minimise contamination from other elements. As said above hydrogen and oxygen is the perfect fuel to oxidiser mix. Something that is mostly unknown about is.The combustion engine can be fueled with hydrogen and oxygen and have the intake manifold completely sealed off. This creates a permanent vacuum in the intake manifold. With the hydrogen and oxygen being delivered into the engine manifold vacuum. An engine like this can be seen in demonstrations online videos.. So now we have hydrogen and oxygen and no other gases at the combustion event.This makes control of the event less complex. Step 8 How do we make a tool to act upon this simple chain reaction? Now we get into atoms and molecules. Is it not true an oxygen atom is 16 times the size of a hydrogen atom. In turn having 16 times the attraction force over an electron than the hydrogen atom. This my friends is your tool to affect the combustion event. Question is ? Can we prepare and add oxygen atoms in such a way to the combustion event to improve energy release by way of extending the chain reaction. Yes this can be done. First you have to have a way to remove electrons from the Oxygen Atom. Oxygen can be held in a stable state with up to 4 missing electrons by adding the correct light wavelength energy. Removing the electrons can be achieved with the use of a low pressure plasma reactor. A low pressure plasma reactor will act upon ambient air gases,oxygen,nitrogen,etc. In such a way to bring the constituents of air to what is called chemical resonance.Chemical resonance is a highly charged state whereby elements stop holding on to their electrons and electron sharing occurs. If you can take ambient air gases to chemical resonance. You are halfway to removing electrons from the oxygen atom. Step 9.Removing electrons from oxygen during chemical resonance. A plasma reactor consists of two stainless steel electrodes and quartz glass tube. The anode is positioned on the outside of the quartz. And the cathode is inside with a 1mm gap from the quartz. This gap is where the gases are worked upon. In the low pressure plasma zone. When in use this reactor has an amount of capacitance this is including the charged gases being held at chemical resonance.The gases become part of the reactor circuit capacitance.This capacitance could be considered to be like a single cell of a battery. It takes on capacitance and in turn can be discharged when the power input has stopped. When discharging the reactor's capacitance it is possible to reduce the mass of the plasma excited gases by way of discharging the reactor to a resistive load.. When reactor discharge is engaged the mass of the gases are reduced through a loss of electrons. Oxygen with up to four missing electrons is produced. These gases can be held in a stable state by way of red 660nM light. The low pressure is maintained in the reactor by the engine intake manifold vacuum. It is connected directly to the sealed off intake manifold. Step 10 How does mass reduced Oxygen atoms extend the opening of the chain reaction window during combustion. Well remember that the big oxygen atom has 16 times the attraction force compared to the Hydrogen Atom. This is where the Oxygen does work for you. When these processed Oxygen Atoms are added to electrolysis gases Hydrogen and Oxygen during the combustion window. They have such a large attraction force they will overcome the Hydrogens ability to hold on to its electron. And in so forces the Hydrogen to give up its mass to energy. This interaction during the combustion chain reaction causes more mass to be converted and opens the chain reaction window giving access to more than one millionth of the available gas energy. This in turn reduces the amount of byproduct,water in the exhaust.. By adjusting the mixture of fuel and processed gases. Mass reduced Oxygen. You can now vary not just the gas fuel input. But you can vary the amount of explosive energy per unit of gas fuel. Stanley Meyer used this method and perfected this fuel gas mix. He reduced the amount of electrolysis gas needed to very small amounts.The water fuel injector was the pinnacle of his achievement regarding using water as fuel.

I'm sorry, but it seems you missed the point about non-combustible gases, which simply slow down the burning rate of hydrogen... Stan Meyer spent at least 5 minutes in his lecture explaining that as simple as it can get: czcams.com/video/iaB5ME8kFGU/video.html#t=20m15s There is no rocket science in that part of wfc, non-combustible gases are simply being added to the hydrogen gas to slow down its burn rate and thus lower the temperature at which it burns, so you don't burn holes in your frying pans, if you cook on hydrogen gas instead of natural gas.

Have u done the running of the any engine jon the base concept. I like to see video of running things.

He was working on a "transmutation" device that just so happen to be able to get an ice engine to work. Aloha

Correction not “within the piston” rather within the cylinder you mean.

If you truly wish to understand the science behind this technology I posted it here on this site: www.aboveunity.com/thread/water-as-fuel-and-more/

But why hasn’t anyone replicate this? I’m sure anyone can considering his background.

stanley mayer engine not steam engine

Gentlemen, with all of this information we have, why can’t we duplicate the results of Stan Meyer? Contact me if you would like to duplicate as a team, fvsanchez@icloud.com

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I suggest everyone into this stuff get a small 110 to 12 volt transformer. Supply it with the lawton circuit or actually any pwm circuit... run it backwards so you are using the 110 side.... now get some stainless wire for a wire feed welder. This is important you cant have sharp edges or leakage points. But loop the wires and now place a drop of distilled water somewhere... slowly bring the two loops together into the distilled water. SUPER HEATED. Theres yer answer

His "injector" was designed to be used with water and dissolved gas. Watch his video or the dave lawton video.... watch the gases stay dissolved in the water... its all hydrogen and oxygen and non combustible gases

Its sad to see less and less people interested in this.... i was just thinking about this the other day how drops of water (pulsed) through a conductor develops a high voltage... sooooo.... wellll what happens to water when PULSED with voltage. If it can create a reaction it will react in reverse...

I'm not sure this guy knows what's going on. What I wonder is about the spark. Did they use a different spark plug or did the compression of the piston make the spark

Bullshittery! A drop of water in a hot iron plate will instantly release great power for example. It's that simple -- water and air. And a modulating radio frequency injector.

Why don't we have this device on the market if there is so much understanding of it?

6:09 I thought the addition of the non-combustible gases was necessary to control the burn rate of the Hydrogen. Can you clarify? What does gtnt stand for? Where is lecture two?

I have a question, do your carbon electrodes degrade in water? I want to make a carbon lead battery and I need to make a electrode plate made of carbon foam. I figure I could use part of a lead plate with the lead paste removed, but I don't know what type of binder I could use, that would hold the carbon foam together and still be conductive enough to make the carbon foam work. Thanks.

HHO, waterfuelcar etc. = nonsense only...! :O)))

My logic has thought that as the space at the top of the piston to be around 100 ml or 100 cm3, so 1800 cm3(expanded water gasses of one cm3 ) - 100 cm3(piston space at top dead center) = 1700 cm3 of pressurized gasses. Take the 1700 cm3 / 100 cm3 = 17 to get the multiplication factor above pressure at sea level 14.7 lbs/in2 X 17 = 250 lbs/in2 just from the first action of the disassociation of water. The other process steps that follow could lead to a 3 to 10 times multiplication factor above that 250 lbs/in2. At minimum the pressures could be 750 lbs/in2 or psi, you can move a car with that for sure. At maximum 2500 lbs/in2 or psi with a piston surface area of 1.5in squared x 3.14 = 4.71 in2 surface area. The numbers are minimum 3533 lbs and max of 11775 lbs on the piston head in an instant that is performance.

The secret behind Stan Meyer's water fueled sell is his magnetic gas transformer that he used! The transformer had magnetic gas circulating in the middle to produce over-unity effect. This device allowed the system to run itself. Search for it.

Thierry Phillips (posted in another forum): "I have seen (and more strongly sensed through touch) various parts of auras most of my life. I am no spiritual master, it is simply that so many have succumbed to the immense pressure by most or all human institutions to constrain human consciousness to manage and control behavior, some of us are slightly less so conditioned." Talk about a run on sentence, what are you on? You seem to be some sort of zen master then you come in here talking street sh!t. I really hope you reply so I can show you how to really troll someone

I support this research, have seen it work in person. We can leave all these disbelievers in the stone age as they bomb the sh!t out of each other over dinosaur sh!t and bones to burn in their primitive fossil fuel technology

A WATER LASER? Much of the presentation was unsatisfactory, this was simply ridiculous. It COULD qualify as a device using maser phenomena, whether acoustic or electrostatic, but not a laser, even an RF one from the pulse-train, as a resonant cavity doesn't possess all of the requirements unless specifically configured as such (the injector body doesn't). It would be eminently possible to get certain phases of ultra-pure ice to lase, not liquid water. So, have you built anything like Meyer's system? Tested it? Data?

If you want to get the best Plans to converting your car to run as Hybrid Hydrogen and save hundreds of dollars on your fuel expense there is a mechanic from Detroit that tested these car kits conversions Just go to Google and Search for: *Top HHO Gas Car Research* Click the first result (Skip the Advertisement)

Nothing more since 2008?

great research - thank you for sharing! keep up the research - the answer is there ;)

Dude it looks like a scam. It smells like a scam. It makes absolutely no bloody sense at all. It is not possible to understand how you could get more out than you put in because....... It is not possible to get more out than you put in.

so awesome....one of the best vids I have seen. Thanks my friend for making this vid.

/watch?v=iOZrKxv_nYI Watch this video for more advanced applications.

I don't believe this to be a hoax but I'm still stuck on trying to understand. So how exactly is the energy output system greater than the energy input required to treat the water? I just need a bit more info. thx

Stan Meyer's car actually runs on quantum physics. When a particle is ionized it can travel from point A to point B with out existing between points A and B. This defies Newtonian Physics where a particle must travel between the two points. When a particle jumps between points A to B without existing in between the points it is called a quantum leap. Meyer's ionizer takes advantage of the energy within the quantum leap basically creating a quantum slingshot that propels the piston.

If you want to get the best Plans..... for converting your car to run as Hybrid Hydrogen and save hundreds of dollars on you fuel expense there is a mechanic from Detroit that explains how he tested these car kits conversions Just go to Google and Search for: "Top HHO Gas Car Research" Click the first result (Skip the Advertisement)

there is a plasma combustion engine that is a closed cylinder meaning no in or out put of gas or air s it is an exspandsion and contraction vacuum effect but the magnetic coil is around the plasma to focuse the flash and it is a director effect if i could get some kind of magnetic field that did not use so much in ballanceing the plasma to keep it from the side walls of the cylinder it would use less electricity

a magnetic or static field is natraly formed in the hydrogen /water vapor ,,just like the lazor is a concentration of protons with a cathod that that has the helium neon since the two gasses in a lazor are different weights they stay relative apart till excited a ruby is intro ducted for color to see the beam

layers of voltages in pulse form rapidly exspands these water partical to change to hydrogen ionized vapor to condensed hydrogen via the non non combustion gas as positive and negative electrons when the non gas mixs the vapor is turned to hydrogen

simular to the plasma vapor effects be for the ignition is set off

The ionized gases were made so in the magnetron of the air processor unit. they were introduced thru the carburetor.The injectors only introduced water vapor(not steam)which was added by solenoid control during accelloration and microprocessor(rockwellf8)assisted. The electrode was made from s/s304, as well as the casing and cathode. The center insulator was MACOR. He chose a converging wave guide of the three in his patent app. see more at: rwgresearch

The main problem to overcome in trying to use hydroxl in place of gasoline is the extended burn time of gasoline in a 4 cycle engine process, many times burning all the way into the end of the exhaust cycle into the exhaust pipe,as observed on drag racing engines . Hydroxl in an exothermic reaction goes to an endothermic reaction well before the end of the power stroke. The only thing that will extend the power stroke is more nitrogen or argon mixed into the ambient air and the hydroxl.

I have the original plans for the injectors manufactured in the uk by an associate of Stans,john prendeville. I made 5 of them and tested them in a 1650cc vw engine,the same as stan used. there isnt enough hp made to move the buggy(a 76 manx chassis,same as stan used,same weight class) under its own sustained power. There are no vid clips with the injection system attached,only the ones with the wfc's in use.

This post has always a different name and avatar though it always has 4 likes and exactly the same pattern.. Computer generated spam post linked to 5 YT accounts. P.S. Who would want to sell plans for Free energy? They are out there, I have created a library on my computer of almost all free energy devices mentioned and can share for free..

wered his dune buggy go and the engine ????

Ok guys, lets see about this. If we put 1,000watts of chemical energy into a car engine, we get 350w of kinetic out (friction losses etc.) now put 350w kinetic into alternator, we get 250w electrical out, so how does 250w electrical give us 1000w chemical, just to keep itself running, plus 10,000w to push car?

Stan Meyer was not a con-artist, and AFAIK was never successfully sued for fraud. If his patents are unclear it is not because he was trying to hide anything from other inventors, it is because the patent office frequently refused to allow his patents as originally written. Nevertheless, his inventions all ran as claimed. It is hard to reproduce his results because circuits must be tuned, materials must be prepared in special ways, etc.

Absolute Nonsense. All REAL alternative energy inventors have the people funding them attacked by the government. They ALL have their businesses attacked by the government. ALL patents are never complete. They keep some things shrouded. That's a fact. It protects the inventor from theft, and having others file a improvement on the patent.

Pasteur was not successfully sued for fraud. Pasteur's experiments were not shrouded in mystery. REAL scientists publish their experimental methods, results and theories so others can repeat their experiments to verify results and their theories. REAL inventors patent their invention clearly and entirely to protect it and then tell everybody exactly how it works. REAL CON-MEN muddle real science with popular hopes. Comparing this con-artist with Pasteur and Copernicus is insulting.