The Apex Legends Tier List (Season 12)
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- There are 20 legends, which is SO MANY! I know you've been requesting it, so here is my Tier List for Season 12!
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As long as Mirage stays low tier, the “Buff Mirage” merch will stay in my store 😉
Mirage: * gets buffed *
Macro: new merch just dropped its called nerf mirage
@𝚑𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘👇 shut up bot
bruh, please buff not quite much but do it, so the merch still remains but gets better. Two birds on one stone throw, easy 😁
YEEEAAAHHH
i randomly remembered independence day 2 and made an edit for it. I grew up watching that film, watched it when i was nine years old lol but i remember being scared of the aliens lmao and come to think of it, the movie couldve been better bc the dialogue in the fight scenes are cheesy and kinda cringe to hear and over all a dumb movie with good acting not good dialogue but my nine year old mashed potato brain thought it was really cool and i still do think that but i cant really change the movie its all made, said and done, i honestly had a good time watching this as a kid, maybe ill rewatch it and turn off my brain and see if i will enjoy it
Macro: "Revenants passive just exists."
Well, you can't say the same for pathfinder
Pathfinder at least has a passive that’s just underwhelming, Crypto is the character that truly doesn’t have a passive. Pathfinder gets his ult and decreases his ult cooldown from scanning beacons but crypto’s passive is literally that his drone scans
I know right
@@brendanfitzpatrick670 pathfinder's grapple recharges every 2 mins, there's no need in ult accelerants or any ult boosters, the recharge time is low anyway
@@brendanfitzpatrick670 caustic too doesn't have a passive, seeing enemies green in a green gas and even that works only 3/10 times
Can't be called a passive
@@renneruYT yea but atleast you can always set up 2 consecutive ziplines with it and even 3 of them if you time it right with the ring closure
A buff for lifeline would be that for her passive, in addition to the revive, she has more space for certain meds in her inventory. Maybe 3 shield batteries instead of 2, or 5 shield cells instead of 4. This could also be the same with ammo, where she can hold 80 instead of 60. This way she can hold heals for her team and still have enough for her self.
so basically apex before the backpack update
I agree with the extra shield capacity buff but not so much with the ammo capacity buff. The main reason i don't agree with that is because that's kinda what Loba does with her black market, allowing her team to resupply on ammo
@@craigmunk3993 I think bang should have the ammo buff more than life, but bang already has a good passive.
She just needs her revive shield back or atleast a nerfed version of it
@@darkn3wt528 have it have the same amount of health as the downed persons knockdown shield? That way it
A) gets better depending on loot lvl
B) does give her passive a buff while still being able to kill the people behind it that are healing
C) it uses the amount of knockdown shield health left, if the shield breaks mid revive the revive cancels, no knockdown shield health and revive occurs as it is currently
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Intro 0:00
PC 0:48
Mirage 2:21
Rampart 3:04
Life Line 4:14
Fuse 5:15
Seer 6:16
Revenant 6:57
Mad Maggie 7:46
Wattson 8:57
Octane 9:32
Horizon 10:17
Crypto 10:57
Loba 11:30
Bangalore 12:12
Pathfinder 12:57
Caustic 13:18
Ash 14:00
Wraith 14:22
Valkire 14:43
Bloodhound 15:22
Gibraltar 15:42
End/Outro 16:44
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So helpful thx
Hi
For Wattson, I think that the fences shouldn't be active until an enemy gets within proximity. It would be a good tool to throw a wrench in a team's push when all of a sudden they have a bunch of stuff to chew through before engaging.
At that point though it just becomes to close to caustics gas trap
That's mad retarted, I just want my kills with her fences yk to show who's better
Agree with the Fuse changes.
Well you con,t say
184 likes and 1 comment? Let me fix that
As a loba main i believe that the buff that she needs is being able to grab teammates banners from her black market and taking the trail away from her tatical i think that would be a really good buff for her
😯 as a fellow loba main i love this idea
Fax atleast make the trail less visible and increase the distance and noise it makes
Ive been saying this loba needs to get buffed where u can get banners through black market
yeah the banner one is a great idea, i think so it’s not too much it could only be useable by loba not her teammates, and maybe it could get destroyed like when she steals vault loot, and fr the tactical is just a flight path for enemies to watch so they know where to aim 😭
their thinking about doing both😅
I’m shocked Valk wasn’t in S-Tier. She has taken over the meta IMO. She’s almost mandatory in ranked and comp. As for rank, I’m in Mid Diamond.
prob because her jet pack is LOUD ASF
It’s because she can’t shot when she flying and her jetpack is loud
@@fallout_edits8964 That doesn't change the fact that she's S Tier... If she could shoot while flying she would literally be the most broken legend of the entire game since launching, even without being able to shoot she has literally been meta since launching
@@fallout_edits8964 she's literally used in 90% of pro teams
It would be a cool buff for mirage if after he does his ultimate, he creates a zone where when his teammates are in it they turn invisible
They should make your team mates invisible and make decoys of your team aswell as the 5 decoys of mirage
One good buff for mirage is when he revives or respawns his teammates, they’re given temporary invisibility. However, once they start damaging other players, that invisibility immediately turns off.
So Similar to stealth kit in Titanfall
Broken AF, you can down people before they know you're there.
yeah lmao mirage is just yoru from valorant, cool(ish), cocky, and sucks ass. actually, they buffed yoru never mind. looks like mirage is all on his own
Yeah that kinda sounds a lil op lol. I would hate to die to an invisible player. I honestly say give hit markers or a lil health like 15 or 25, so that way his clones would bit a more believable
@@rezilentndn110 tbh they should make his clone longer but actually move like a player and give him like 50 health so when someone sees dmg mark hes gonna get bamboozled and if u play smart with him he will be a good 1v1 legend
Pathfinder Passive: "Pathfinder's periscope"
Lets him have a passive zoom like the 1-2x, 2-4x and 4-8x scopes.
this sounds like a great passive for him if not a bit op imo
this was an idea the devs had earlier and im all for it. maybe even the zoom for 8x and 4x have heat seeking that sounds good
I had that exact thought as well.
The next legend Hawk is gonna have a zoom passive I believe ,so they wouldn't give that to Pathfinder unfortunately.
@@chrisver7686 bro season literally just came out there’s no way we know the next legend
I dig Macro's Lifeline buff suggestions, I wouldn't mind them giving her the revive shield back either, also make it so she can hold a little bit more meds, maybe +1 or +2.
I think that if she holds more meds it would be +2 for small meds and +1 for big meds
I think wraith is obsolete now, especially with ash being a thing. Her tactical is just too damn slow. It used to be that when you were getting shot, you could just activate her tactical and get away. But now there's like a one second delay to it that causes you to continue getting shot, most of the time downing you.
Valk is s tier imo. There's a reason every pro team for the most part runs a valk. The ability to take high ground super fast is crazy good. The ultimate is really good on Olympus because there are parts of the map that are just fields and no cover. Valk ulting over the open areas of the map creates safe rotations to zone that otherwise would be extremely dangerous.
I'm soooo glad I use Wrwith since S11.
Valks pickrate is disgusting.
At least a valk every team.
Shesh
@@repeekyraidcero what rank are you? I'm barely into plat and most of my teammates pick off meta characters like bangalore.
@@dilll3066 sometimes is funny asf pick random characters and combine them
@@repeekyraidcero Wraith is probably still the most used character in the entire game
Agreed
A really good counter to Bloodhound/other recon legends would to give more useful passives to Crypto/Mirage, where they don’t get scanned by enemies. This includes things such as bloodhounds tactical, enemy crypto drones, etc. This would fit there entire character since the entire point of them is to be sneaky.
I was thinking bangs smoke should nullify or disrupt scans that way you feel safer
@@slimygoon9993 she'd be op
@@antonisrovolas1667 fair because of how long the smoke last. But maybe just fade out the scan or something so it’s not as noticeable
For me a good counter for bloodhound is that all simulacrum and all robots are not scanned by him because Lore wise is he can only scan people who have heat on them like thermal heat so it wouldn’t make sense for the simulacrum or robots to get scanned
@@ItzM0narch I thought of kind of the same thing, but for Seer because they don’t have heartbeats. For bloodhound its suppose to be a sonar scan, meaning it’s based off sound waves
There was a “try-mode” when apex brought solos in think season 2 or 3..(been so long) remember being kings canyon before map rework and it was bomb. Definitely think they should bring that back
Agree. Respawn just seem hell bent on making sure people can't play the modes they want. Solos ruled and everyone agreed
Give Gibby a minute long cool down on his bubble. I want him to feel the same pain us Pathfinder's had to go through in season 5.
Damn I recall this 😭
And gun shield
Lul gibby is getting buffed bruh
Maybe they could make it 20% smaller
One of thw darkest times i witnessed 😂
Quick tip for Mad Maggie: if you have your ult but your tactical is still charging you can use it for destroying doors ,so if someone is behind a wall remember that you can use your ult. edit: not walls but doors
Oh cool thanks for the tip
If they did that they’d have to release it with a bigger update. The devs would have to release an entire system where all buildings would be able to be destroyed, which would lead to other legend being able to destroy them as well. It’d be too much
yea but no one plays rampart for you to be able to destroy walls
Another tip about this tip XD, be careful to what door you throw your ball because sometimes the door will make the ball bounce back to you or the ball could go directly through the door, talking about doors the ball is pretty inconsistent so be careful
you could also use it for enemies that are looting your two dead buds.
*if ye look at my Mad Maggie Clip on my channel, it's pretty beautiful, ngl*
A passive unique for pathfinder could be to allow him to zoom in and out with his head... camera thing without a sight on a weapon. That way pathfinder find a path to (let's say use his ultimate) and also just looking out for oppenments
Like Fuse’s ult?
love your apex vids macro!
Simple Mirage Buff: the tactical decoys are randomized legends from your squad.Second tricking the enemy to shot a decoy does a Bloodhound scan for a few seconds. A questionable buff would "Phantom Fire" where decoys have fake damage that is essentially a damage boost once the real Mirage shoots the enemy.
Edit for clarification on Phantom Fire concept: Decoys will carry a close range weapon and fire at enemy's in a certain but small range. It will trigger damage sounds do no actual damage. When the enemy is finally hit, the Phantom Damage will do up to 50% of the damage of the real bullet if the decoy Did enough of the Phantom Damage. So if an enemy is hiding or running, you could send a decoy to reveal and inflict Phantom Fire before finishing them off yourself. This essentially can trick enemies to think a whole team is pushing when it's just one Mirage being clever with his tactical. Any one of these or a combination of watered down concepts could be enough and the Phantom Fire percentage could probably be tweaked.
Edit again: Phantom Fire percentage would probably be better as 20 or 25 percent.
A separate buff could be decoys signal shield or health damage and disappear one second after taking damage.
Definitely pick one of those lol. Don't need him to be seer 2.0
New passive for pathfinder, he can’t be scanned, because he doesn’t have heartbeat
Phantom fire isn't that great of an idea, it would be too broken
But your previous idea in mind blowingly AMAZING
Also one buff they can give him is that if you hold the tactical button you can spawn a decoy on a location around you and then control it instead of having it run from you to there
I think mirage is fine where he is honestly
But sadly respawn have already released an heriloom for Mirage and the only legend to get buffs in a season is the one getting an heirloom
Rampart Passive Buff: Increase walk and strafe speed with LMGs, maybe the 2x faster than all other Legends. If Apex is about movement, there's one way to buff her
2x? Ha, nu. Maybe 1.5
2x LMG strafe speed will kinda backfire since if you don't main her, you'll miss a lot of your shots while strafing because you aren't used to it
Maybe increasing the strafe speed by 30% would be better since that's what octane and bloodhound get with their abilities
her walls need attention, that’s it.
That makes no god damn sense, i t s a l m g
@@FURIOUSCRUSHER8 but, Rampart’s whole thing is that she’s good with lmgs
Nice vidéo man ! Hope respawn will hear you. You have very good buff ideas !
1) I always found it weird Lifeline’s tactical couldnt rez, i wish her tactical could rez and, if it did, it could bring up a rez shield with equal hp to the teammates knockdown shield
2) Bangalore having a toned down version of the electric smoke counter measure from TF2 could work, maybe except for damaging it just slows
Massive disagree with the bangalore one. Movement is everything in this game: thats why Arc Stars were as nerfed as they were. They weren't broken because they could instantly break a shield (okay, that was a part of it), it was because of the massive slow effect. If you got hit by an arc star back then and they had a PK, you were guranteed to get 70+ damage on TOP of the like 85 damage of the arc star. Giving Bang's smoke not only has the same issue as this, but it also adds the issue of diversity. Giving bang slowdown in her smoke would make it near no different from Caustic gas, besides the gas being a little bit easier to see through. It would either make Caustic absolutely useless compared to Bang or make Bang useless compared to Caustic. It shouldn't be implimented to the game, she should have either her ult buffed or even reworked.
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Feel like a really simple buff for Bangalore is for HER and HER ALONE when in smoke not being scanned by anything. If it was her whole team she’s broken but if it’s for her only I think it’s fine.
Sounds like a good passive imo, does that also mean blood hound won’t be able to see her during his ult or she won’t get emp by crypto?
Another idea, she has something very similar to caustic being where she is able to see through the smoke extremely easily
@@ligasortv7314 I’m talking scans in general. Bloodhounds automatic digital eyesight wouldn’t detect her in her own smoke, neither would his scan, cryptos drone, Maggie bullets, fuse ult, Valk in the air, all of seers scans, nothing would detect her in it.
@@ultrayeets That just makes her better for solo plays, not team.
So when she's in her smoke, she's....
OFF THE GRID!?!?!?1!?!?11
I think revs totem just has to last longer or you can choose to return to the totem manually.
I would live to be able to return manually but then I wonder how frustrating it would be to fight against, because then this is ABSOLUTELY going to be a 3V6 for the ennemy team.
First one might be good but manually returning to it feels too op, Gibby lvl op
I just started the game about a month ago and I kinda wanna get revenant.
@@bignoob24 I don't find him "fun" to play imo. He's very tall therefore he feels slow, you lack some movement mechanics like wall-jumps (and I believe super-glides aswell, or at the very least they feel diferent) and most importantly, you have to communicate with your team when you want to push. But trust me, soon enough you'll have enough legend tokens to buy all the legends and more, so there's really no right or wrong choice in unlocking legends. Play whoever feels like you might enjoy them
@@zynosgd9982 Do recommend anyone to buy? Anyone but Octane because teammate plays. (I also have Wattson).
I like the Fuse suggestions, especially the Grenade Jump, not only does it sound like something Fuse would do. But basically all of the Assault Class Legends are primed for Movement, all but Fuse and Mirage
I feel like an easy way to buff Loba would be to get rid of the trail on her ring and have Loba throw her ring faster.
I think Loba should get the Pathfinder tactical buff, where the cool down is based on distance. Or, and addition to her passive where she can manually grab loot from farther away.
I think tactical could just be quieter and faster. After you land maybe you don’t have to put the bracelet back on your hand. Also I have a passive rework suggestion which would be a new passive called extra backpack space. This could apply to the whole team where everybody gets 2 extra slots per level of backpack.
@@YMan-zo5kg That's also a good idea, but I think the reason it's so loud is that she is not a flanking legend, so they aren't trying to help her ability to be sneaky.
@@YMan-zo5kg That passive would make her an absolute must pick
@@garrettedwards4341 yeah, which is ironic considering her lore, but being able to teleport quietly would be a huge problem.
@@fortnitebanana9634 bruh no it wouldn’t stop clowning. It would just help her be more meta. Added backspace isn’t a crazy suggestion. How is that not a fair passive idea, Valkyrie literally has a jet pack. Wtf are you smoking? I also said like 2 slots not 20.
Maybe just a fun buff for Horizon, allowing her to put her Q on walls? Not game breaking, but fun for repositioning herself and displacing enemies into free LOS
nice pfp
that would be awesome
yo is that a detroit spinners profile pick, respect.
The devs said that they tried it when he was being made and they said that it doesn’t really add anything also causes tons of bugs
@@T.Y.L.E.R_777 yooo wait did you said he ?
My life was a fucking lie
XD
Possible passive for pathfinder is a scan jammer, it makes it so path doesn’t show up or shows up for a shorter duration on all character scans
Yes what I’ve been watching for
as a wattson main the only buff she needs is her passive, she should be able to charge a little faster but the node thing would be too complicated honestly because i already have trouble midfight getting rid of fences while im trying to reload
Let her craft bats out of cells for her team.
I agree and maybe change the pick up from a press to a hold. She's really good now but the maps are making her les of a viable legend
I've run into the same reloading issue with rezzing too
I think she should get a new passive. A quick Teamate pick up with a max number of uses per match. Her current animation is basically a defibrillator and even her reveal trailer showed her pick up octane fast with it.
just delete wattson she sucks (im a fuse main i hate her my wattsons are killing me 100% of the time placing their crapy ult in the middle of me using my ult and im talikng about my allies taking wattson not my ennemies
A fun buff for mirage could be when he uses a small heal ( shield cells and Syringe he goes completely invisible but if he uses a big heal ( shield bats, Phoenix kit and medkits) he goes halo invisible
nah, because you can be the ultimate rat. Just pop a syringe and right as its about to end, cancel and do it again. You can effectively be permanently invisible
too broken
@@yes_lad in that case let's just put a ability cool off for it. You can go in invisible 3 times on a full charge. And it takes 20 seconds for one charge to come back
that would be way too broken coming from a mirage main
@@wewlilol3392 but he deserves it
Would like to say that a good Maggie push with her wrecking ball can get your whole squad in Gibby's shield with the enemies or at least get right outside, and with revenant's totem it could be a relatively low risk push as well...
Damn I love all your buff ideas especially the lifeline one
Lifeline being able to res from her care package sounds awesome, the characters could ride on the top of it and jump off when it's grounded 😎 I love that idea
TBH this season has changed a lot of rankings for characters especially Ash(my opinion)
Mirage still bad though 😬
I love how for bloodhunder he says they such a little detail but so cool
Bloodhound caustic and valkyrie would make a great team, caustic seals a room, bloodhound scans, and valkyrie attacks the other team!
Two reacons---???
@@user-wx9ew7cf1d yes
I can tell you as a Wattson main who is often forced to play highly aggressive, placing her fences mid combat or even basically building a web around someone mid fight makes for any misstep as a for sure death on the enemy's half. I'd say she's a truly underrated character, and definitely would deserve an upper B if not A
yeah she is very underrated and mirage is very overrated
Up and coming Wattson main don't know how to make a web around people but the ability to basically turn doors into alarms is great can't open it without destroying it
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle as a long term wattson main, honestly to make a web just keep connecting your nodes together and have them zig zag around each other. If you wanna keep your doors in tact but move in and out to fight just leave the doors open when you leave and when you want to go back inside and heal close them back. Also place your ultimate not behind cover because then it will not negate anything and will not regenerate shields. If you have teammates or friends great legends next to Wattson are Rampart, Valkyrie, Pathfinder, Loba and Lifeline.
Agreed. Also, when I play with Gibbies we uses a thing called a Turtle. That simply is when a Gibby bubbles and I fence it so they can’t get in
@@Yepitsmedude Never had a name for it, but I do the exact same thing.
Buff idea for mirage: let him give one of his decoy suction cups, so that teammates can USE the decoy. It would make him more helpful for the team and in general.
Like how he creates the characters when he skydives?
That would be fucking hilarious but I dont think it would beTHAT useful I agree it would be useful but I like macros idea of focusing on invis but team wise yes that would be great and hilarious
@Poe Soul now THAT would be good solid mid B tier
That's honestly a great idea! So that way it looks like ur teammates aren't by themselves if they're pushing and more viability in a fight. But God I don't want to think about the bugs that come with it.
@@kookie-monstar yes basically
Acc mad looking back at this vid and seeing the buffs and nerds macro predicated
I have had many clutches with Mirage's ult and honestly think hes very handy in both arena and br
Mirage Should be immune to scans from all legends when reviving. At the very least nothing too game breaking just to counter some of the scans
Or when he’s scanned he creates a clone that mimics his movement
A good one would be to just take the audio and visual away from his rez it might seem op but if gibby can bubble rez fast af and LL can rez 2 people and fight mirage wouldn’t be that broken
@@xKaiyoo what? Yeah bubble rezzing is really strong but having literally no signs of someone rezzing is just broken. you can rez a teammate wait for someone to lower their guard cancel the rez and just shotgun them
I’m diamond and i think Fuse should be a little higher. He still has that aggressive potential by forcing teams to move out of their spots and that great damage in the endgame. His ultimate can also be used to lock down areas of the map.
I think macro's masters
his ult is not inconsistent to land idk what he's on about
@@darkrl591 yeah the i never had problem with the uilt. the only time i cant land it where i want is when teammate enter the line of fire as im uilting
Shhh don't tell them. I hate when someone takes my legends and I have to use someone else, so don't tell them and we can keep using him
Fuse’s knuckle cluster I think is pretty OP actually. There’s been so many times where I’m hit by it and can virtually do nothing except take it until I can get out of a room. His tactical is nice.
Just started playing apex again and wanted to watch this to see who I should main still choosing rn
I think it would be cool if mirage had a natural greatly reduced scan time
I love playing ash, and i personally think she is criminally underrated, especially if you are going for an aggressive playstyle, because of the ult and even the passive is good for always knowing where you can find a fight and/or loot
Ash was who I got my first 4K badge with, Only have like 100 kills with her but I think she’s really strong if you play her properly.
Only been playing apex for like 2 weeks and ive already won multiple games by phase tearing to the final squad/rat. Also awesome for banner recovery missions. Just save an arc snare to throw at your portal after recovery. Ash helped me reach plat pretty quick. Hardstuck now but oh well. Newbies have to hit a wall eventually.
Your idea for the lifeline buff is actually such a good idea, and with that I think as a combat medic, she should be able to carry more meds like in season 0,1,2,3 like Fuse with his nades
I’ve been watching your vid for like 3 years and I totally agree with all your tier list oh and him platinum 2
As a Pathfinder fan I feel like a balanced passive for Pathfinder is being able to move a bit faster in zip lines and this would help him trying to run from enemies, or getting to places faster.
12:58 I think that extra speed on a zipline would make sense to be a passive ability for Pathfinder.
That and also a fresh reset to his tactical zip after activating ultimate, even if you just used the tactical
Pathfinder's Passive: "Hello Friend!"
*his passive allows him to choose whatever loot he wants from a MARVN.*
(i use this comment as a way to promote my channel? 😳😳😳)
thats whack, let me grapple again if i knock down someone
@@valentinodosantos2925 Then they'd nerf that passive out of existence ._.
@@valentinodosantos2925 or what if every execution?
Aren't the MRVN's only on Olympus? Not saying this passive is bad, it's a cool idea, but his passive only existing on a single map feels depressing.
Maybe his passive can be a morale boost to the team like hp gained when he is close to you or after a kill
well im a seer main, and a buf that i would propuse, is when ppl are rezzing or healing wile they are in the seer ult, they will get wightlighted, so that seer can focus on them and stop them from healling or rezzing (also wile hes in the ult, the ability has a 20 sec cooldown lol)
Good list and I agree with most of it although I really miss lifelines res shield she got. That was pretty sick.
The one thing that you didn’t mention was that mad Magis tactical can go through the bubble, so they kind of nerfed Gibby a little bit
He didn't even mention ash
Barely you can escape it
compleatly disagree. He got a counter not a nerf
Her tac doesn’t last long enough and it’s range is limited once it’s placed plus she’s not that good so it’s very situational as a counter to gibby but it’s something
Crypto can use his ultimate to destroy the bubble so crypto is kinda a counter I guess
Honestly Macro this is a Solid list the ONLY thing I would change is Ash after Wraith because the thing with Ash is first she can go everywhere she wants up, down, left, right everywhere in an instant even mid fight while with Wraith if you want to teleport you team you have to wait until you get to the place you want to go while you team stays vulnerable from attack. But apart from that that is probably the best tier list I've seen
Hey I think they should allow wraith that 5-10 secs after placing the portal she can close
no bc you can go back and forth with wraiths portal, also wraths tactical is slightly better than Ash's but eh we stick with our opinions ig im a bit biased since i main wraith lol
@@PHNX769 loba can close it by placing her ult on it
@@luvazalea_ but I agree with his premise, because unlike the other rotation abilities in the game , wraith has to actively leave her team to make this portal , which could leave your team to fight 2v3s , etc
Lifeline should really have her care package drop maybe gold guns half the time or her drone could maybe heal less faster but a shorter cooldown or maybe even bring back the revive shield
I feel like the care package should have an upgraded ko shield, evo and helmet, the ability to double up as a respawn beacon and extra compartments for each section for heals. Phoenix kits, med kits and batteries would take up the whole compartment, while cells and syringes would take up 1.
Giving pathfinder an actual passive could be tricky but I did come up with some ideas:
-Zipline Recon: While using his grapple hook or on a zipline, pathfinder reveals enemy legends within a given radius as long as he is on his grapple/zipline. He can also detect anyone who rides on his ziplines that he created using his ultimate
-Metal Body [Probably the worst one I can think of]: While reviving an ally, pathfinder takes reduced damage from enemies during the animation. This damage reduction lingers for a short time after if successful at reviving a teammate off the ground
-Recon Locator: If pathfinder uses a a tower to find the next ring location, it also reveals enemies within a certain distance of him to provide information on their location [Kind of like tapping into their gear to send back a distress signal, i.e. reveal their locations]
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
@BEATRIC----💋⤵️ silence, wench! I do not wish to be horny anymore. I just want to be happy
@@user-mx1fq6qm6i lmaoo
everyone wanted that passive but respawn just doesn't want the scan meta to go
@Exposzed dude, it's a copypasta lmao
One BIG issue with Fuse. If you get the first impact from the ring of fire, you only take 5 damage. No slow, or tick damage. People use this as an easy jailbreak making his ult essentially useless. Its depressing as hell to close in on an enemy and pretty much be done with them, only for them to escape with only 5 damage taken with no repercussions.
Rework ideas:
Mirage:
-2 second scan when shooting at decoy
-Mirage Decoys shoot with re 45 with medium accuracy
Rampart:
Macro's idea is good but i have 1 mobility to add:
-Rampart can throw her cover if you holding like shield (like gibraltar throwing his bubble)
-Lifeline:
-When Care package lands, all nearby allies will get healed (2 bars of shield and medium amount of health)
-Late game Care packages always contains Battery and Medkit
Fuse:
-Increasing the knuckle cluster damage little bit (50 to 60)
-Fuse ultimate can remove Bangalore smoke and damage devices in the ring of fire (Wattson ultimate, Seer ultimate, Revenant Totem, Crypto Drone)
-Fuse Ultimate can fire like Bloodhound scan (like bloodhound scan is replaced by fire with mad maggie ultimate speed)
Seer:
-Tactical activates faster
-Seers ultimate can trap enemies inside (enemies cant pass the barrier or escape)
-inside the seer ultimate enemies ability cooldown will increased by 3 second
Pathfinder:
Passive- The further distance traveled with your tactical will reduce your tactical cooldown
Revenant:
-Increased health while in shadow state
-If enemy uses your death totem you will steal the enemy shield if you dont have shield or not have a full shield (steals 2 bars)
Mad maggie:
-when her ultimate explodes, all area in 10 meter radius will explode with mini grenades (per grenade deals 20 damage) that way it will make her ultimate more valuable for chaos and engage just not making her ultimate mobility like octane jump pad
Crypto:
Passive-Crypto cannot be scanned or marked (cannot be scanned by bloodhound seer, cannot be pinged by mirage ash wattson, cannot be revealed in caustic smoke fuse ultimate Maggies passive) in exchange they will get mini notifilcation that "Crypto is there" that way will make crypto more strategy and positioning character in aggresive building fights or late game situations (and making neurolink his drone passive)
Decoys getting scanned instead of actual Mirage
The decoys shooting is too OP, and pretty dumb.
I think mirage could get a buff where everything he does, his decoys also do like when he has 2 weapons in his back, his decoys should also have it and also when he aims, his decoys will also aim
@@vincenteligid8523 that buff is in mobile but not on pc, console
Mirage’s decoys should have like a few hp to make the boozles longer
Love watching ALGS right now and seeing how seer wasn't bad, it just didn't get used well
I main fuse, and I think you could add a few things to make his kit well rounded. getting a 30% reduction to grenade damage, similar to fortified champs would fit his kit and help with the self damage he takes from his clusters. for his ult I think keeping the ring is fine, but putting a line down the middle could separate teammates within the circle aswell as more often actually damage people, additionally increase the height of the flames, so often people just climb a small rock to hop over, this would make it at least more difficult to do so, plus it would block lines of sight for the trapped person while allowing themselves to be scanned and seen by the fuse and his team. I think adding any one of these would be decent since he is in a alright place right now.
I like these a lot. Especially the flame height. I also wouldn’t mind some sort of UI change to the ult.
I’ve mostly adjusted to it at this point, but sometimes it still feels wonky
I also main fuse, these are great ideas
maybe bangalore smokes could be "static charged" so when bloodhound or seer scans are used you see several images of the enemies, or only footsteps to make it take that little bit longer to find them. Maybe even just make the scan pulse through smoke instead of showing for a second or so like normal. Disrupt the scan without making it negligible. edit: (plat)
I like that tbh, it would finally counter scan abilities lol, As an old bangalore main
Love your ideas for reworks for current legends. I think at this point, they would just use those rework ideas towards creating new legends to create more content for new seasons. If anything, they would just make minor numberical adjustments to older legends.
Interesting lifeline buff idea: if you guys remember the LTM where multiple cars packages land at once, why not make lifeline’s ult a trio of care packages, one specifically tailored to upgrade everyone’s loot on your team
So mini care packages for your team? That actually sounds like a great idea
For me it would be cool for her tactical to be used by DOWNED TEAMMATES! Make it to where you can crawl to D.O.C while it's out and then hold Y to revive yourself with D.O.C. you also gain half health when revived that way however the health buff could only happen once, then you get only quarter health like a normal revive. Also that with a Lifeline that has a gold pack doesn't stack it'll still be the amount you get.
I feel that pathfinder should just have a complete rework and they change his passive and remove him from the tracker category. Because besides the ring scan ability nothing else in his kit resembles a tracking legend.
Fax they should just make him an assault legend
They could make teammates able to heal on zip and call him support
They really need to give pathfinder some kind of passive. Maggie basically gets 2 with the damage sight and and then the speed boost with shotguns. He should be able to use zip lines / balloons faster than other legends. Could help him rotate quicker
Maybe heel on zip lines?
At first I thought this wouldnt be that useful but if this included his own zipline, his zipline could be used more aggressively.
What if he could see people that are using his Ziplines.
Idea for Path: Make his passive so that he is able to have more air mobility (when not grappling) it may not he the best but its better than what he has
We already have horizon for that
I’ve been a rampart main for ages and no one used to expect it
Few ideas I've had for mirage. 1, His decoys would scan the enemies who shot at it for a few seconds, or when he sends out a decoy he becomes invisible for a bit, just like when he uses his ult. 2, he has multiple charges of decoys on his tactical and he can use each one after 2-3 seconds (preventing from spamming them) and his ult grants him only invisibility without deploying the decoys but the invisibility would last longer and while invisible he can send out decoys with his tactical and heal himself as well but when he starts shooting his invisibility would break off instantly.
I love Mirage so much, I hope they make him a better legend
This one I actually agree with
What if mirage can Switch to different clones?
@@nothinghere6894 that's a huge buff but I like it
@@nothinghere6894 Cool, but he's not a wizard. That wouldn't really fit his hologram tech backstory. Making him invisible for a few seconds after sending out a clone, though? That's the buff he needs. It would have to only be 1-3 seconds and end as soon as you begin firing, of course, but it would make him much better mid-fight.
That would ruin the fun and strength of his ult
I think a good change for bangalore is when a bloodhound scans through her smoke instead of seeing her for 3 seconds or so, it would be like his season 1 scan which was a static image of them during the scan.
I feel like this would work more like a nerf to bloodhound to only see the image of them since it only would show a past place of you and the person would have to think where you are
I think a good idea with wattson as well is to have slightly faster revive time next to the pylon:)
Making bangalore immune to scans or at least it doesn't work at farther range could be a cool buff for her.
for pathfinders passive, how about giving him the ability to make his own internal scope. for example, he could make a holographic 1x/2x/3-4x scope and at the end game, he could make digital 1x or 8x scope.( just throwing an idea out there XD)
Yeah you basically nailed it on the head, I agree with most everything. I feel like the one thing I wanna see happen is to help Rev and Octane into better positions with relying on each other, they both fell from grace for very fair reasons cause Revtane is annoying. But now if you play either solo you just feel disadvantaged for using their ults.
I don’t play ranked, but I main caustic. His abilities are great too when uses offensively, you can guide people to where you want them and get your own flank
For octane buff you can spawn in and the tactical does a little damage but when you use it to much it takes more damage
I think that a really good counter for bloodhound's scan could also be a mirage buff, like if his passive was completely reworked to be something like keeping his teammates off of radars and moves that scan enemies. It makes sense since he kind of uses invisibility and creates illusions of himself. His passive right now is fine, but like you said, it can be tracked and it's not really helping the squad.
So mirage would be OFF THE GRID
@@grandmasteryoda5981 yeah lmao
@@legoswallowingtutorials thanks for the free reddit karma btw
@@grandmasteryoda5981 you're welcome! make sure to credit me for the idea tho
@@legoswallowingtutorials sure thing
Does anyone now if I buy the bloodhound intimidator skin bundle will it still work cuz they stop selling it but I found it on Amazon?
Idk dude
No idea man
Yeah it should still work it worked for me
@@akasiushy6015 did u bought it in season 12, cuz they removed it from the store after season 11
@@onepieceontop1272 yeah I got it the day season 12 dropped I found the pack at target
You’re so right about the octane health 5 stims and you need a med kit
So I've been playing Apex Legends for like I think about 7 days or something. I main Wraith, and I got my first Battle Royale win with Bloodhound and Gibraltar on my team. I still killed some people, but they did most of the killing. I mainly revived them and used Wraith's passive to warn them.
What I like about Wraith's tactical is it helps me get to downed team mates. It can be really dangerous getting to a downed teammate in the middle of a gun fight and normally I'll probably get downed myself trying to help out my buddies. But that tactical is super useful for this purpose.
I actually liked ur rampart idea. It fits with her mods, and being handy. And It definitely would make her more agreesive and helps with pushes. For sure make the wall have less health then normally set up. Cause it'll be OP for sure. Imagine apex giving rampart a riot shield lol.
Not a riot shield because not only would she have to pick up an already placed wall but a team could easily break it at its current health if you tried so it would have to be used for very short distances from cover to cover
@@georgeaguilar3414 well yeah, its not like it's made to be indestructible lol. And i'm pretty sure that is the point lol. It protects or absorbs damage in ur way, while you reposition.
I feel like seer is a more precise version of bloodhound as bloodhound just shows where enemies are while seers scan is very narrow but tells you where there are but cancels health and abilities and shows there health
Seer is the most underrated legend in the game imo. His passive is a free scan because it lets you know if you're about to get third partied or if the place you're moving to has enemies in it without alerting them. A buff would be to increase the width of his tactical or to decrease the time it takes to shoot out because it's so easy to dodge
Precise? more like limited and sloppy
Why would you want to scan in a limited area, give enemies a chance to get away from the small area and potentially miss instead of just scanning a 110° angle in front of you instantly which no one can run from?
Well yea situationally his tact can stop revive and heal but are those situations frequent enough to drop all the advantages of bloodhound, probably not
@@damn6039 if you play ranked, yes those situations are very common. It’s super common to stop people from healing or reviving in a Gibby bubble.
Also though, if you’re communicating with your team, you will always have information on the team locations.
BH takes little effort but I don’t think that makes Seer bad, it just makes BH too strong.
I expected to see more defense of my boy Seer down I. The comments but I guess it makes sense now that I know he’s the second least picked Legend. Sad…
The thing is they already gave mirage a rework I think his ultimate deployed decoys and turned mirage invisible, then they redid the way he works. So I dont think they would do that again. But it would be cool to see mirage a little bit stronger.
This channel is awesome 👏
I don't like how the only legend that gets some MAJOR changes are the one getting an heirloom
Other legends are just left to rot and since legends like rampart and Mirage already have their heriloom it's safe to say they're barely ever gonna get touched again
Tieing monetization to game balance is a bad idea, respawn
Edit: yea except for caustic, he'll get nerfed every other season
Facts
As a Mirage main, while this is pretty niche, he can be used to gain info against a Wattson/fuse or even Maggie. just send a decoy into a fence or fire and boom free location reveal.
And he is good for getting out of fights with his ultimate
Don’t forget Caustic
@@Jordan-Savoie a good player dont fall for that shit lmao
@@oneeyedbills3378 that's a good point
idea for Bangalore buff: when she is inside her smoke enemies are marked for three seconds and she can't be scanned while inside it. to balance this make it so each smoke has a 45 second cooldown
i love how he makes fuses rework the apex version of raze from valorant
Dude, I love Seer. I’ve been using him every season as my main since he came out. I’ve racked up 1000’s of kills with him, but he limits my ranked experience. I know I should use Gibby, Bloodhound, Valk, but it’s hard to move on….
Hes great in BR.
I take him over BH any day.
I love having him and telling my teammates not to "kamikaze" by using the tact.
Great Legend, really.
What a dumb thing to worry about imo. If you're having a good time with a low-tier, just stick with it. Online ranked meta and the actual pro player meta is not quite the same, as even your average high-rank player is unlikely to have studied the characters to the same extent a pro player would.
I have 100000000000000000000000000000000 kills with mirage, I have killed everyone who has ever played this game
Bro I beat joe Biden as seer dude bro
Funnily enough, despite being in D and C tier, the legends that I have the most trouble going up against are Mirage and Lifeline. Two of the most annoying to go up against imo. I hate when Mirage does that Kage Bunshin and they don't even shoot and just run circles around you. A lifeline that just sits back in a fight and res their teammates as soon as they're down is annoying as well.
- Average Platinum IV Hardstcuk
You are just fighting good players who have mastered their legends habilities, this whole mirage circuling around can fool even the highest rank players, i got played by mirage multiple times even being relatively good at the game
Give her the shield back or fast res. Man even a 25 shield and 50 health after a res would be cool cause the res I starting to feel like her weakest ability
OMG 1:52 I haven’t heard the og theme song a a long time😔❤️ ✨nostalgia✨
And thanks for helping on which legend I should get next(also the chibi legends u use are so cute)
For a counter to blood hounds scanning they could make a Legend where it’s like gibbys bubble with a one shot to a sniper health bar and it’s just while u are in the bubble you can’t be scanned
The only disagree I have is rev, I feel that his kit is so useful in ranked and my team uses his ult as a second push when they know we're in a fight
Bro I used him for first split last season in diamond ion know how but every time 3rd parties would always find that fuckin totem and use it or destroy it and ruin the push
The best buff to rev is get rid of the 50 removed health when you respawn but give the player a slow effect (kinda like ash’s tact) for like 15 seconds. Or just make it so when you touch the totem you can’t hit pads and reverse all the nerfs.
I think an interesting buff for seer would be maybe reducing his teammates tactical ability cooldown while they are in his ultimate radius.Also kaybe he can cast his scan faster like bloodhound while in his ult radius
You know. I talked with a respawn dev and he said Maggie’s heirloom is coming in a few seasons, and it’s Fuse’s right arm
That would be absolutely hilarious honestly
If it is I’d love to see the inspection animations on it XD
@@HalfAxe.22 imagine if she would flick people off with the inspects