Mountain Bike Upgrades: How To, What First & What Next!
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
1:01 Compatibility
2:28 Diminishing Returns
3:56 What to Upgrade First
5:55 Most Common Upgrades
We all love to upgrade our mountain bike. How can you not love making your bike better with brand new suspension, tires, a dropper post, grips, handlebars, or brakes! With all these MTB upgrades, it can be confusing knowing where to start, what will fit on your mountain bike, and what is actually worth spending your money on. In this video, Jeff covers everything to consider when looking at how to upgrade your mountain bike. This includes compatibility, what to upgrade first, and of course, the best mountain bike upgrades you can buy. Get ready to take notes, this video is packed with tons of important tips for making your bike better. Enjoy!
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What will be your next MTB related upgrade?
A new bike
I’m gonna upgrade from my 2x8 Altus to NX eagle
Tyres . will upgrade to a dhr2 and agressor
Bars
I’m going to upgrade from my shimano deore 10 speed to either sram nx or gx eagle, or shimano slx or shimano deore xt
I’ve been upgrading my bike with a new brand called “out of stock”. They’re huge.
Yeah they are the only thing available
out of stock means there isn’t any left smh 🤦
@@billysmith1472 it's sarcasm dude...
@@billysmith1472 wow thanks for letting us know genius
@@billysmith1472 r/whoosh
Boys boys, nah... we all know that upgrading your sticker-setup is priority #1.
And it adds horsepower if you get the right ones.
So true tho
hells
Yup yup. Makes you go faster, makes you go higher, makes you land softer, makes you corner better. There's no downside.
not to mention that if it's applied right it makes all of ur parts carbon
Kid with a $4999 bike:
*confusion intensifies
😂
Not as uncommon as you'd think. Go to any recreational race and see what the kids are on.
@@Legacy40k totally my boys live in Whistler .
@@Legacy40k when I got my bike at 14 it was around 3000
@@lennylightskin218 ok mines 9k and I was 14 and am 15 now…. See nobody gives a damn…🙌
The best upgrade you can make on any bike is your fitness and skills.
Don’t buy upgrades, just ride up grades.
@@timfreeman2603 my wallet would like to thank you for this comment.
A-fucking-men my dude! Getting fitter and stronger has made my riding better than any upgrade could!
@@prajwalpingali that's why I bought a bike, needed to lose weight and get in shape at the same time.
Okay folks, this advice only work with bikes that are already somewhat capable. A garbage bike will actually explode as you get better.
I did grips, pedals, tires, and then went tubeless. Once cheaper forks get back in stock I'm getting forks. I ride a budget hardtail
Upgrading the forks is huge. Very underrated.
Marzocchi bomber z2 is a good option
You can change the headset
Same here
What bike
I bled my brakes. Nearly went over the handlebars!!
😅
Had that same experience when I replaced my 2 pot with an MT5.
@@andrewince8824 Yep, went from 2 pot cheapos to slx 4 pots with bigger rotors...yeesh
I think I am going to upgrade the whole bike, since I think I am done with 2003 XC geometry.
throw a double crown fork on it. boom, 65 degree HTA and 200mm of suspension
Sounds like you’re riding a progressive gravel bike. You should put some drops bars on it and sell it for a motza
Well that's not as bad as 1997 XC geometry
@@dylanlauro8591 eh. At least I just upgraded it to a Specialized Status
@@darrenhaines1 then I would need 12s shift levers, since I put a nx eagle drivetrain on it. Maybe what I should have done is put the nx on my current gravel/road bike, and put the groupset off of that on the mtb. Sold it for 750 anyway since the covid bike market
Hub engagement was one of the first things I upgraded when I got my new Trek Fuel, went from 54 to 108 POE with a simple pawl upgrade kit. Makes technical climbs easier. Also, changing out the rotor bolts from black to red was critical.
100% best upgrade, color changes make a MASSIVE difference in all riding.
I like subtle color accents. Hate bikes that are too matchy matchy. Never thought of rotor bolts, usually just do valve stems.
I live in Sedona went from 18 POE to industy nine 90 POE hub..such a game changer on the tech climbs🏁
What kit is that?
@@topspot4834 I changed my rotor bolts to oil slick
After owning my bike for 12 YEARS, I added a dropper post and much wider rims with tubeless tyres. Best and most effective upgrades I could have ever done.
Next was changing to 12x1 speed and wider bars.
Thanks for the awesome tips!
1x12*
@@bentoth2494 Yeah. That.
@@benmmm7359 only reason I’m being a petty person abt it is cuz I don’t want you to go saying that to your lbs like if your referring to a 3x7 and u say 7x3, and you might not get what your expecting 🥴😂 also we have the same name lol
Sino Pinoy dito mahilig sa Upgrade taas kamay! Thank you Worldwide Cyclery for guiding us for upgrades! more power guys! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
I've seen people try to put 170mm forks on 100mm hardtails... people need help
I’d do that... unless I could find a 180....
@@kyleslater5245 200
*GMBN*
Ikr, so stupid. Go for a dual crown instead
@@spuddo123 just take inspiration from Sam pilgrim and grab a fox 40
My upgrade list is simple: The next one that's broken or is about to be broken is the one that I'll upgrade first.
It's budget friendly in a sense because there is really no point in just replacing your parts. If you're planning on replacing, you better upgrade it.
I'm currently doing this with a mongoose mode 900 BMX bike, so far I've replaced tires, pedals, grips, brake lever, brake cable, brake pads, gone through 3 chains, one sprocket, and my forks are out of true and that's my next upgrade. Went from a pos to really nice pretty quickly, needs taller bars still
Jeff. I cannot believe how many times I watch your videos for a second go-around. This was one that really hit home because I am considering a few upgrades for my Specialized Levo SL Comp. Thanks again for doing these videos. You are my hero!
As usual, cool video and informative. Always good to have proper insight!! 😎
I've upgraded every single part on my 2018 Intense. I went from GX to XT 12 speed, upgraded all the suspension internals. It's like a whole new bike.
Will S nice
Didn't you like the GX? I went from XT to GX and it's much better imo
This is a great video, especially for those who don't have experience. I got my first beginner mountain bike (hardtail) a few years ago, a 2016 Diamondback Hook. I Didn't really use it much, then the 2020 pandemic hit, and with the help of your videos, I've upgraded a few things during the lockdown. 35 stem, carbon handlebar, grips, saddled, and pedals. Although the rig is not modern nor fast, it made me like riding more than ever before. Thanks again for making these videos. My next upgrade is a dropper post. One suggestion for a new video is of mid-level bike brands that are recommended for those of us who have budget hardtail bikes.
Yaess that video I was looking for, thanks guys.
And the award for most dramatic performance in a bike video goes to Jared. Excellent! Bravo!
Thanks for making these videos.. they always help me on what to buy and what to do
Guys, I love the information in these videos. I’m just getting back into the sport🚴 with my kids and WOW things have changed!
Thanks for the entertaining 🤡and informative videos
I just got my first real MTB a Specialized Fuse 27.5 and can’t wait to do upgrades
A brilliant summary of component prioritization....Thank you.
Great video! Since I started my MTB adventure, I have purchased different bikes, and at the moment have 3. But my first MTB, a 2005 Mongoose Amasa Hardtail, is still there as it’s so good. I upgraded almost everything on it since new, but any changes were made when things needed changing. The older geometry doesn’t bother me, as the bike is so much fun. First thing was the fork, as the original was rubbish, so I replaced the Manitou Axel with a RS Recon coil. I still have it now and it’s great. I’ve also gone from 3x9 Deore to 1x11 SLX and I’ve gone tubeless on non-tubeless Mavic wheels. Changed the tyres a few times until I now found what I was looking for, and I love riding every time I go out. I probably could have bought a nice new bike with the money I spent upgrading my Mongoose, but the money was spend throughout the 17 years of ownership, rather than a one off purchase. Can’t see myself ever selling it now. Happy riding everyone!
For me, I gotta have a powerful 4 piston brake, and a reliable dropper. That and any of my favorite grips and pedals.
hub engagement and drive train for sure! Great video. Keep em coming.
Excellent presentation... I'm in the market for a new bike and trying to work out how much to initially spend on the spec vs allowing room for improvement a little down the track... I found this both helpful and entertaining.
i got my first full sus a few days ago, (kona process 153 27.5) i love my bike and im so excited to get some cheap upgrades like grips :)
I just got a Kona Big Honzo DL a week or so ago. First new MTB since '92 - replacing my old GT Talera. I love it!! Your Process is a sweet bike!! Enjoy!
Very thorough and sensible. An excellent video. Well done. :)
I agree with you Jeff. Basically contact points are the first place to start
Interesting video. I just transformed by new XC/Trail/Downcountry bike by changing the wheels, tyres, cassette and running tubeless. 10% weight reduction overall but all of it where it matters most so the bike suddenly feels responsive and lively for summer. Didn't use any flash parts. Cockpit is next with PNW Range bars on order. Saving pennies for some SID Ultimates!
I upgraded my whole bike last year 😅
Seemed like the perfect timing (Corona)
So I was having fun, while most were searching for parts and bikes 😂🤙🏼
Still got my old bike though.
It’s fun to ride in the city.
Most important upgrade is the riders own fitness and experience. Overtaking roadies and other mtbers on their $1k+ bikes with my $150 mtb with basic components is the best thing ever. That said I finally shelled out enough cash to get the Deore 12 speed and the difference is night and day. Planning on getting aero forks next.
Most helpful video I have ever seen
Great video, thank you.
OMG THIS IS A FANTASTIC OVER VIEW!!!!!
We like your video very much, learn a lot!
Love your honesty
Top quality video 👌👍
Very informative THANK YOU
my next upgrade... after watching this video... new bike lol I want all the things you said
I changed my handlebar, pedals and tyres... Totally different feeling now absolutely better
my step son just got a bike and I haven't been in the bike game for decades. I figured I'd go to you Tube to find an upgrade guy that could break it down. you're my guy now I'm going through all your videos. 😂
DMR V11 Pedals. The composite Vaults :) Loved my V12's which have given 2+ years good service but really want to try the bigger platform with the same/similar concave profile.
Great video!
Great video👍 i’m still on compatibility lol this will be my first build.
I have a hard tail and the first upgrade was getting new forks. Went from rockshox recon RL to fox 34s. Felt like a new bike
I got an old clunker for a touring bike. It's got front suspension hardtail. I'm carrying all the weight on the front. So I was looking into upgrading the forks possibly to disc brakes. But I'm just playing around with it trying to keep it simple.
Thanks for the vid it filled me in some.
Suspension valving is always overlooked.
This is perfect I just got my first full suspension
Dang, what did you buy? Most things have been out of stock lately
Yeah, go ride, have fun!
@@jroox_228 I just got a Marin hawk hill 2/ rift zone 27.5
same!
Upgraded my grips with Ergon GA2's, absolutely loving them, the way they are shaped to your palm, the thickness of the rubber and all. Only thing I have to complain about them is that the midsummer blue is ever so slightly a different shade of blue than my frame which bothers me lol
I've got these grips aswell and absolutely love them. I just didn't have the same issue with the colour, my orange grips perfecty match the colour of the details on my bike
Hey Jeff, I'm thinking the next upgrade would be a rear shock. I'm very interested about the EXT Storia V3. It would be cool, if you do a video review about that shock!
Getting a new saddle which fits your butt really makes a huge upgrade in comfort
jajaja so good video love the jumptrail! now feel motivated what gest me going the longest while bike is delta parole or other rokk music!
I'v had my entry level hardtail Norco storm 1 for around 12 months now and just started modding up the bike. Started with grips, pedals and a mud guard. Just put some 203 and 180 brake rotors on and going to change to a 4pot caliper on the front (I'm a bigger dude, the 160 front and back with Tektro brakes just wasn't cutting it lol). Ordered an oval 32t chain ring to ditch the front 2 speed that will go with the box two prime 9 group set I ordered as well. Dropper post will be after that
I purchased an Orbea Rallon M20 last year. I was going to order a bike through their custom program but the wait was going to be redonkulus... Given the availability of bikes I opted to get the bike they had in stock and upgrade it. I immediately changed the stem and handle bars to OneUp. The carbon bar helped with my wrist pain. I also upgraded the the grips to Ergon GA 3. Suspension, I upgraded the Fit 4 damper to a Grip 2 on the Fox 38. I tried to live with the Deore 4 pot brakes but the wandering bite point was unacceptable and I had to bleed them at least once a week. Ended up putting on a set of TRP Quadiems which are amazing. Solid upgrades that made a noticeable difference in ride quality. Next year, new wheels. Most likely Nobl TR 37's with DT Swiss 350's a 54 tooth ratchet.
I would go tires, brakes, saddle, handlebar, grips
For starters safety and comfort is a priority. During the first few months of biking, this things usually makes people love or breaks people from biking.
To the last point of old bikes, i have my specialized sx trail (2010) and i love it, besides 2 issues, which i kinda fixed. Thing is i tried many many bike, none of them felt even remotely like that (im doing gravity/freeride/stunty things with it) like the geometry, its hard to explain but it just feels awsome, even others who tried it said its a complete different thing.
Im still lucky that the bikes has Standart things everywhere but being 26" (made it 27.5" but thats another story of tight tolerances) and the rear wheel needing to be trued about 5-10mm more in the direction of the cassete (maybe its an old Standart?) to avoid just no allowed turning of the wheel cause its just in the frame.
Not saying I didnt learn anything. But I'm glad I'm more "experienced" then I thought. I've always switched out my tires and made sure my brakes were to my liking before riding a new bike.
I use my bike to commute to work, but I love taking the shortcuts that rode bikes cant.
Just switched out my grips to something more ergonomic, Never thought about switching my peddles, but I'm thinking they may be next.
I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY with the Pedal Situation.. I Bought a Norco Charger and the Pedals it Came with got Binned Literally on Day 1. I Pedalled to Town to My Local Bike Shop Purchased some Bright Green Nukeproof Flats... Had em installed n Threw the Shit ones in the Bin when i got Home. Same with My Grips.. 2 Days Later i bought a Set of Bright Green Easton Grips n they are SAVAGELY Comfortable. Easton are Not overly Great but theyre better than some High end ones I tried out.
*looking at the $50 ht Mongoose 29er I bought and rode and loved today* Yeah, I'm solidly in the sub-2500 group.
I have a mongoose dolomite and for my birthday my friend gave me a trigger shifter and new grips since we go biking a lot my old throttle shifter was getting rusty
And I just got new cranks for the bike too
I always see it like this, if you have to ask, What upgrades you need/should do, you don’t need any 😉
getting fitter so I can faster. My 26er is perfect as it is.
Finally, another 26er rider!
@@No-ti2sn I still use 26 too.
@@No-ti2sn me too but i use 26 bcuz im small :3
26 train, freeride is life
@@No-ti2sn I just built a 29er/27.5+ hardtail, but my full sus is still 26. I love the 29er, but I love how the 26er feels like a BMX bike afterwards.
One of the best upgrades is actually just servicing your bike! Unless broken or worn out a service will make your feel like bike new again, plus help to stop parts wearing out so quickly & less rides ruined due to breakdowns.
The Owen Wilson audio dub for A “WOW” factor got me 😂. 3:16
SUch great insights. I'm really struggling with deciding if i should upgrade my 12yo Norco hardtail or buy new. So many standards have changed.
Hub upgrade is a must
I went dropper post lever, seat, pedals, bar and stem, then front shock. Do what your pockets allow you to do.
As a returner to cycling at 65 ( previous experience was road racing 40 years ago ) bought used Rock Rider from E Bay £150
Spent last week putting mud guards on , stand , new Continental tyres , chain guard , pedals from amazon - some slime for tyres
Went into bike shop today to get tyres - shocked at price and variety of parts - how on earth do you choose - in addition labour rates to fix bikes £50-£55 an hour 😱 Specialist who looks after my Saab convertible is £48 an hour with electronic diagnostic equipment
That will be my spend now on bike - done all the safety stuff - happy now to go out and explore lanes of Lancashire - another aspect which shocked me was depreciation on new bikes certain makes seem to lose about 30% in first year of ownership
😱
I have a 2015 Trek 8.5 DS….
Sounds silly to most I’m sure but this year she’s gonna get a 1x12 XT drivetrain, 4 piston XT brakes, XT wheel set wrapped with Surly Extraterrestrials, and a 100mm RockShox Pike….
I myself will admit that it’s kinda crazy to dump that much into an XL hybrid 29er that’s 7 years old - but it’s gonna be such a huge upgrade to the bike as a whole - it will run like a completely different machine while still feeling like it’s original self….
That bike is a multitool for me though - I do bike packing and bike camping with it, I take my boy for rides in the Burley D’Lite X all the time, I ride it on the roads all the time, and I do a lot of bike path and trail riding with it - some of the trail riding I do is pretty gnarly, especially for the 63mm Suntour NRX fork that’s on the front, lol - but it’s all held up pretty good for 7 years, I’ve taken that bike just about anywhere I can think of in rain, sleet, snow, or shine - I’ve put a a few thousand miles on it and it’s still running strong….
This stuff getting done to it soon won’t just be an upgrade - it’s gonna be a transformation!
Yep, my 2000 Specialized FSR BigHit was way beyond upgrading.. finally broke down and got a 21 intense carbine.
Handlebars seemed like a good upgrade to wider and 35mm clamp.
I did that with my cheap marlin 5. 35mm stem and 760mm handlebar
Big upgrade. Went from 2017 stock at 700mm to Renthal Fatbar. That and going tubeless definitely my most noticeable upgrades.
Least noticeable (but most expensive): carbon wheels.
I went from a 650mm wide bar with a 100mm long 25.4mm clamp to a 760mm wide bar with a 50mm long 35mm clamp. Won't ever go back.
Went from 760mm bars on a 60mm stem to 800mm on a DMR Defy 35mm stem. Control just went straight up.
@@BH-ro4ly Hell yeah! You're going to love it!
So far I've added a dropper post with nicer seat, better grips and a wider carbon bar.. next up is some wider better quality tubeless tires!
Going 1/12 eagle drive train was best upgrade to my 2016 Stumpy FSR. Went to bless out of the gate. New forks next year
On a brand new bike, immediate "upgrades" are things like handlebars, stem, grips, if needed so that it fits me better. Probably new tires, according to riding style. Possibly then a new set of brakes and rotors, cause new bikes usually come with low-end brakes. Or just upgrade to sintered/finned pads. Maybe a new gear shifter, new bikes tend to have a better derailleur but a lower-end shifter... And pedals, of course.
The last minute was a good reality check.
I put Raceface carbon bars on my trail bike and the difference is huge. the best upgrade for sure and not to expensive.
What's the benefit for those over normal bars
@@ronbergunndy1259 the feal and flex is amazing there way lighter than aluminum. They have super good damping performance and a whole lot of other thing.
Pluses they look sweet. I have the race face Sixc bar
Great video! This really helps. I live in NJ and have a 2019 specialized StumpJumper ST expert carbon 27.5 Butcher and Purgatory Rockshox Debonair Pike 130 travel front. and rod the hell out of it this year. I come to realize that I should have looked into a better components/bike. ‘’ live and learn” I would like to upgrade my suspension front and rear, possible 29er upfront 27.5 in the rear. New hub, but most of the shops here are closed or it’s hard to find a tech/shop that I can bring in my bike.
Any suggestions is greatly appreciated?
Thanks!
I've got an entry level hardtail and the only thing I've upgraded was the fork, it did have a 100mm suntour xce or something like that. My bike now has 100mm rockshox reba RL.
Glad I got them.
New into MTB just gotta first budget hardtail did so much research and learned so much I bought the bike for 650 and im already 500 deep in upgrades lol. Air fork, pedals, handlebar, stem, grips, spacers, dropper post🔥 gonna be legit once im dome building it. Goimg hydraulic breaks next and then tubeless💯
Anyway you could send me a list of all your upgrades so i can stay around the 500 in upgrades you managed
What bike did you go with?
@@macfin4862 went with the nishiki colorado 27.5
I got a Canyon Spectral and I'm pretty happy with it. Maybe tires will make a difference but I'm OK with the ones I have and will only replace them when I need to. I did go tubeless but as far as all the other components that came with the bike, they seem plenty OK to me but I guess I don't know any better (which is OK by me). Reviews I read about the bike complained about the front tire, and they swapped it to the rear. When my rear wears down a bit more I might consider swapping them around just to extent the tire life a bit.
I love bike parts!
7 years, I am still riding my 13 year old bike.
Jeff, upgraded from Raceface Next R to the Cane Creek EE Wings. Diminishing returns on that one, however... After sending in the Next R's 3 times for warranty issues, I upgraded and never an issue. Clearing out the annoying issue, keeping it on the trail. So what I gained, well, I fixed an annoyance and the ee wings look incredible. Did I mention that I saved 35 grams, lol, jk...
To me, that 35 grams is worth every penny. But don't tell the snowflakes I said that 😅
@@WorldwideCyclery ha ha!
Next I’m getting a dropper post for my all mountain hardtail
I've upgraded everything like hubs grips n all but it's time to replace the frame now
my dad has a 30 year old bike and it still works perfectly
Damn that was a good ass video
I'm brand new to all of this its freaking mind blowing stuff I bought my bike off Facebook for 50 dollars it's a 90s gt all terra mountain bike lol
#1 upgrade the turbo!
My first up grade I think will be the handle bars and stem.
Bought 2020 Trek Slash 8 last June - upgrades so far: 1. Fox Transfer Factory dropper w/ Wolf Tooth remote; 2. SRAM Code RSC brakes, upped rear rotor to 200mm; 3. Deity Speedway carbon 30mm/800mm bars; 4. Ergon GE1 Evo Factory grips; 5. Ergon SM Pro saddle; 6. Deity T-MAC pedals 7. Maxxis tires - DHF 2.6 front, DHR II 2.4 rear. 8. Currently in shop for complete overhaul of Yari fork - Debonair air spring and Charger 2.1 RC2 damper. It's good to slap cool stuff on your ride! What's next - better hub, better wheels?
Damn, sick bike!
Good fun haha, i agree on compatibility. It's so terrible, there's a need for an international standard.
I'm riding a 26er Chameleon, taking that thing apart is just as much fun as riding it
I have upgraded the steerer, stem, seat, tire with armour and tube, pedals, grips and added a bunch of lights. Still want a HE hub, stronger wider wheels, a seatdropper and idk heated grips maybe
As a 40mil stem / EXO rider, I feel called out. lel
(With you on the brakes and pedals, tho!!)
[I run Magura & Chesters]
So far the only upgrade my bike has gotten is lights. Totally needed for biking in the dark. Next will be some pedals, the ones that came on it are too small for my big feet.
my 2003-4 giant iguana disc is compatible with like 100% of modern standards
I just finished installing the Loam dropper post on a 2010 mojo today. Next upgrades are gonna be (hopefully) 1x12 drivetrain and a new shock. Still has original fox RP23 that I had to completely rebuild the damper(it works better but not great). Any suggestions on what kind of shock I should run as replacement? Sounds like from the video I should run something similar.
I will probably buy Scott Spark 960 and I am already looking for future upgrades, cause 950 is over my budget :-D