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Boat Internet 1/3 The Cost of Starlink! Plus, how we monitor the boat from 1000 miles away! E178
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
- We install a new internet system on the boat, along with a security system and electronic systems monitor. We trade in the T-Mobile Hot Spot, add Simply Safe cameras and water alarms and wire in a Victron Cerbo GX to our inverter and lithium batteries.
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Put a teather on the camera. If the magnet fails your camera will be hanging there
That is a very good idea.
Great info, but... not one time in this video was a drink served!! You guys are slipping! lol
I drank during editing! 😁
And no Roger Outs either!!
Ed, my wife and I have been using that T Mobile 5g system for about a year now at our Houston Suburb home. We're cord cutters so the T Mobile system handles all our streaming services. It's been nearly flawless. I highly recommend it.
Thanks for the info. We have had it for two months and so far it has been great!
Hello, we use T-Mobile at home and yes it works great. Any idea how it would work on board when your out ? Thanks
Something else you might want to implement with your CerboGX is the automatic generator function. You can program the system to automatically start the generator when the batteries are depleted to a preset level (e.g 20%), charge the batteries to a preset level (e.g. 90%), then turn off the generator. This will significantly reduce the number of hours your generator is operating, while still providing you with all the power you need when you need it. The more battery capacity you have, the less frequently the generator will be running.
Thanks for the tip on the internet service!
Ok, the cookies made me laugh. Thanks!
As long as they made you like, subscribe or ring the bell! 😁
The door trigger shot made it look like Ed was wearing blue nail polish. 😂
Well, it was Saturday night! 😁
I have the SimpliSafe cameras, and they sell a fixed base that you can screw the camera to, however, I am not sure if they will you the rate of motion you might need to line up the camera but worth looking into it. Also, I highly recommend the solar panel charger for the camera battery. Depending on the motion detection level and activity around the camera the battery will not last anywhere near as long as they claim. In addition the only way to charge the battery is by removing it. If you don't do the solar panel, then I recommend having two batteries per camera so you can just replace the battery and not loose coverage while it's charging.
Thanks for the tips. So far we like the system. So far the camera has been on for two months without charging. We have live aboard neighbors so the camera gets triggered often. I think I need to set the coverage zone tighter when I return to the boat. I'll look into the solar panel attachment. Thanks.
Great Vlog mate all that Wiring would make my Head Spin But I see and Hear you have a good Grip on what's going on your have to give us a up date once you run the new stuff a while and see how its all doing for you Thanks Both of you and Happy New Year to you Both
Thanks 👍 And Happy New Year!
We've been using SimpliSafe on our boat for over 5 years now. Absolutely love it.
Great to hear!
That "But Did We Sink?" shirt is amazing!
A gift from my daughter!
Subliminal cookies... hahahahaha - very creative!
Did they work?! 😁
Starlink for marine is a CRAZY $5,000 per month. I thought about using the non-marine version but figured they'd catch me. Forgot about T-Mobile (however for the middle of the ocean I guess you'd go dark)
Yes, T-Mobile is only good where you can get cell reception.
Thanks! Please let us know how the new internet is working. Sounds like it's very simple and fast. For some reason I always thought it was a lot more expensive and complicated. Thanks again!
We have only had it for a couple months but it is working perfectly so far. We are monitoring our boat from Philadelphia and have had no issues. When we are on the boat it is as fast as our land house connection.
I bet there's some version of a glue / epoxy, or a Loctite-type product that you could use to attach your cameras. Something that holds securely, better than a magnet, but not necessarily permanently. You may even find something that will _release_ with heat, like from a heat gun or hairdryer. There's even some extremely strong 'Stay Tape.'
We are playing it by ear for now. The way the base is set up, I can permanently attach it to the top of the base, which twists to disconnect from the bottom of the base. So there is a solution that allows us to still bring the camera inside for charging without too much difficulty.
GR8 VID..JUZ WHAT I WANTED TO LEARN W MY 32' CABIN CRUISER..THANX
Glad I could help
Happy New Year!
Happy new year!
Great video as usual!
You should find that the magnets on your cameras are more than strong enough.
Thanks! We hope so!
We have similar monitoring system on boat, but cellular-based (Boat Command). At this time of year it is very comforting to know that shore power is on and boat interior temperature is well above freezing.
We also have the T-Mobile Home Internet at home and have had great service. One tip that might be related to your lost connection - this unit has both 2.4 and 5 networks, blended by default into single SSID. However, it does not always route properly between the two networks. In our case, if a laptop connected to the 5 network, while network printer was on the 2.4, we could not print. There is a simple setting in the T-Mobile app to have the unit split these networks, so you have two SSID's (e.g network2.5 and network5). So we can now make sure that printer and computer are both on 2.4 for example. This could be the problem if your Victron hub is on different wi-fi network than the other wi-fi components.
I enjoy your videos!
Thanks for the info. Perhaps that is what is going on. It seemed to work fine when we were at the boat but we have since lost connectivity. I seem to recall that the Cerbo GX specifically stated that it ran on 2.4. Good to hear that T-Mobile Home Internet is working well for you. We may decide to switch our land house to it as well.
@@tryingnottosink9107 I am in that spot right now! My Verizon hot spot blinked while we are several hundred miles from the boat and now I don't have any cameras or info on what's going on in the boat unless I drive back down. Dang it! Sometimes just a lightning strike nearby.
Beautiful boat. You have such a large saloon.
Yes, thanks!
Maybe you can install a light safety cable on the cameras so that if they come loose, they still hang from the h bracket.
That T-Mobile net device looks pretty kewl. Just one leeeeetle problem: if you want one, you have to have a phone account with T-Mobile and can't just get the device itself.
I guess that is true. e were already on T-Mobile.
Roger out
We have very similar systems. I have Victron Charger/Inverter and two Victron 330ah lithium batteries and two 170w flexible solar panels. I also have a SimpliSafe, TMobile, and a bunch of cameras. I believe you will like your setup! I don't have the Cerbo GX for remote monitoring. I will look into that.
That is a very similar system. The Cerbo GX lost connection and we do not know why. It worked great for a while. We are not sure what happened. We can't check until we return to the boat. The Simply Safe system is working fine and the T-Mobile Home Internet has exceed our expectations.
@@tryingnottosink9107 That's a bummer with the Cerbo GX as remote access is why you have it! As I'm sure you've experienced, there are no reconnection issues with TMoble or SimpliSafe.
Hello from Titusville
Ed,
Neodymium magnets are super strong, if that system has them , they shouldn't come off,
rough weather or not.
You might be able to get your own from an online supplier.
Cheers,
Rik Spector
I think they'll be okay. It is easy to bring them in if we hit really bad weather though.
Hope your new monitoring system works good for you...
But sounds like you need a good auxiliary generator to run the air conditioning when you're at anchor..
We have a 20KW generator onboard, which can run the whole boat, including 6 air conditioners. We are just trying to find ways to use it less. It uses 1 gallon per hour, so if the inverter runs 6 hours per day at $5 per gallon, we are saving $30 per day x 100 days per year, equals $3k per year. Plus it now gets less wear and tear.
Have you looked into any 12 or 24 volt hvac systems? Lots of new technology out there for being off grid like you say
We haven't looked into that yet, but it is something to consider. We may be updating another AC unit this year.
How well does this camera system handle being in a salt environment? You should check your compasses do to having magnets aboard.
Not sure how they will hold up. Time will tell. Fortunately, they are not that expensive. They are located far from our compasses.
You guys need a small house with a dock on a canal down there to get away from marina charges, that's what I want to do with my grand banks 36, we are heading down there from Detroit in May once erie canal opens ...actually we put boat in storage in Buffalo at entrance of canal
That would be nice!
To me the weak point of something like the T-Mobile system is if you're someplace without a cell signal. That shouldn't be an issue though in coastal areas or around the major islands in the Bahamas. It looks like quite a few of the boating channels on YT have added StarLink, I like the installation on Cruising Sea Venture since it still allows the antenna panel to move to get the best signal.
We'll see how this works out. We had decent coverage with our cell phones last year. It was only a $50 investment so there is little to lose.
Michigan, I agree, If you can get cell signals from shore I don't need any more internet than that. My biggest concern is getting accurate weather data so my go to site is "Windy". Trouble is, here on the west coast a lot of the time I can't get a cell signal so no weather.
This is really starting to be Hollywood material. Nice video happy new year may you both sail the seven seas without sinking
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Thank you so much 😀 I wish I had more time to produce better videos but life gets in the way. Plus I am lazy!😁 Happy New Year!
I use simply safe on mine also, marina wifi is too weak to run the system so I use a Verizon wifi on my boat to run the simply save and my roku tvs.
We like the T-Mobile home internet when we are in the states. Does not work in the Bahamas though.
Interesting info. We all demand being connected these days. And it's a huge safety benefit when out on the water as well.
***Unfortunately I can only give you a Roger Out score of zero for this episode, since there were no Roger-Outs. That's what happens.
10-4
We had an AT&T grandfathered account with true unlimited data but they cancelled it. We tried T-Mobile in Florida and it was horrible with very slow speeds (1-2 Mbps) multiple dropouts and constant connection issues. We also tried Verizon and it worked fairly well but it was slow (5-8 Mbps at best) and had unreasonable data limits. So when the portability option for Starlink was available, we grabbed it. We have had outstanding high speed service all along the East Coast, the Chesapeake and here in The Bahamas.
We are getting 100mbps on T-Mobile. 5G
T-Mobile 5G it doesn't work in The Bahamas (Starlink does) and is very sketchy at most anchorages along the East Coast. In the big city it may be great but you can get reliable 300 to 1000 Mbps speeds with Verizon 5G and unlimited data for the about same price.
velcro ?
I asked at the Tmobile store a uear ago about this router...
Per their staff, the router will only work within your defined home cell. Has that changed? Because I don't think this is gonna be capable of replacing your Hotspot when it comes to mobility...
We have not tried moving the unit yet since our boat is docked until May. However, we used our Philly address when buying it and we have it installed on our boat in Florida.
Why do I get this impression that Lyn has a "wild side" to her? She makes great cookies!
That might be an understatement.
Hmmmm I talked to t-mobile and they told me we were unable to move the router once it's set up. We were considering this for our rv
We have not tried moving the unit yet since our boat is docked until May. However, we used our Philly address when buying it and we have it installed on our boat in Florida.
@Trying Not To Sink we live in Daytona. Might have to come down and buy you guys a drink when you're in Florida!
So with t mobile will you have to pay international roaming fee when you go to the Bahamas?
For phone calls there are fees but not for data.
Ed, I was under the thought you installed T-Mobile, if so how is it working on the boat ?
In your talk you say (We trade in the T-Mobile ) thanks
Yes, we installed the T-Mobile Home Internet. We returned our T-Mobile Hotspot. They both cost $50 per month but the Home Internet is much better. The signal is strong enough to cover the whole boat and it has unlimited download at high speed. The Hot Spot was limited to 100gig and it would overheat if you kept it in the charger for too long.
@@tryingnottosink9107 thanks, I was confused as to changing the T-Mobile.
I looked into a similar solution from Verizon, but stopped when it asked for an address. I believe the same is true for T-Mobile. Obviously supplying an address is easy, but do you anticipate any issues using a "home" device while travelling far (at least within the US)? If the service provider doesn't care (or doesn't know) where the device is, then using "home wireless internet" on a boat seems like a no-brainer. Forget about Starlink, it's cheaper than my hotspot!
We used our home address near Philly and we have the unit in our boat in Florida. They do not ask where the unit will be installed. However, we found that if we used our Florida address, they did not offer "unlimited" just 100 gig per month. Apparently they do not have unlimited in all areas.
@@tryingnottosink9107 you got lucky. our home, business, and marina address are not quite in 5g territory. considering using a virtual address from iPostal1. will be interesting to see if it works as unlimited when in just LTE territory, which will be most of the time. i suspect you won't hit that limit while remote monitoring, so won't know for sure until you're back on the boat full-time (unless you've already stress-tested it). i can't find an answer for t-mobile or verizon anywhere, because of course they're not going to say "here's what happens when you move your house around" hope it works out for you - we plan to try it this spring/summer
@@tryingnottosink9107 Did you have to switch your home internet to T-Mobile as well? I'm a little confused on exactly what "system" you got for the boat. Thanks
Is the pro-mariner charging too?
It charges the one 12 volt battery that we use to start the generator and a few other things. The 12 volt isn't shown in the video, it is underneath the platform.
@@tryingnottosink9107 thank you.
shunt should read the "current" for the ampmeter or drain and fill sensing. not voltage
I misspoke.
May I ask what insurance cost for the boat?
We use Boat US (Geico). Although we hear they are dropping a lot of people this year. We renew in February so we'll find out by then.
I wouldn’t count on it as a travel solution. T-mobile home internet is locked to an address and it is against their TOS to use it anywhere else. Supposedly it still works if you move it but it’s only a matter of time before they start cracking down on it. You may find yourself deactivated out of the blue if they find out.
Possibly. But the investment is only $50. I bought the unit in Florida, using my Pennsylvania address and they had no problem. I have been running it in Florida for several months now.
4:46 At least it's above the waterline.
A little bit ...😁
Comfooozed. Why not let engine alternators charge batts ALL the time?
We can. And I probably will in the future. We had a problem where we ran the starting batteries too low while doing that, and almost couldn't start the engines. It turned out to be aging batteries but it spooked me a bit. What we plan for in the future is too hook up an additional, high amperage, alternator that is dedicated to just charging the lithiums so I do not have to worry about it.
This isn't a Starlink replacement...you wont be getting any service when out on the ocean with that T-Mobile hotspot.
I know there will be dead spots, like when we are cruising 15 miles out, or crossing the Gulf Stream - just like on our phone. However, you are not permitted to use Starlink while underway, so that would not solve the problem either. We are curious how well it will work in the islands though. Last year our old T-mobile hot spot worked, but was often throttled. If the same thing happens with the T-Mobile Hone Internet we will probably add "Island Wifi" We did that two years ago and it worked well for only $50 per month and you turn it off when you return to the states.
Strongly suggest you consider as large of a battery bank as you can accommodate size and weight wise
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I have learned a lot from watching Will Prowse and his forum. We only have about 5KW now but will add more in the future.
Looks just like a Bitcoin mining operation.
that star link is a joke. checked into the star link maritime and laughed. 5k monthly and 10k for equipment.
Even the RV system is ridiculously expensive. $600 plus for equipment (a cheap antenna) and $135 per month for service.
Hey how is that Windless controller holding up? Do you have a genset on board? Are you trying to get away from engine driven power when anchoring? You have come along way with learning about systems and maintaining your your boat 😁🛫
The windlass has been working great! We are upgrading the anchor this winter. Yes, we have a 20KW genset onboard but we are trying to get away from using it. In fact, if it ever breaks I will replace it with a large bank of batteries and a small emergency generator.