Amit Shah’s promise to lift AFSPA from Kashmir a game-changer in India’s counter-insurgency doctrine
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For decades, political leaders in India’s insurgency-hit states have demanded an end to the Arms Forces Special Powers Act - while the Army has doggedly resisted. Now, following the lifting of the Act in large parts of the Northeast, the government says it plans to do the same in Kashmir. This could prove a game-changer in the way India deals with insurgencies.
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I don't know how local Kashmiris see it, but it's a huge, historic step. A lot of Kashmiris and North east Indians hated this law. But it saved the Armed forces that fought the separatist exremists. In a relatively peaceful environment it's the right thing to be removed
A few comments that are often ignored, especially by Delhi based journalists, like Swamy. 1. Comparing North East with Kashmir is wrong. Kashmir is close to Delhi and every minor incident is blown out of all proportion. North East is far away and the security forces have been ruthless there, compared to their kid's gloves approach in Kashmir. So let us not mix them both them. 2. Kashmiri politicians have always tried to exploit Delhi as well as the local population. Sheikh Abdullah went back on his Agreements with Nehru and wanted to secede from India. Muftis Saeed and Mehbooba both represent the Pakistani interest as did Geelani etc. So one reason for the problem re the Kashmiri politicians and their divided loyalty. 3. One needs to take reports of groups like Amnesty, especially in the nineties, with mega doses of salt. In the nineties, the official position ( as stated by Robin Raphael , the well known ISI agent, who acted as US Asst Secy for South Asia) was that India should get out of Kashmir and Amnesty was often funded ( even if the money trail is difficult to establish) to make such claims. it is important to note that groups like Amnesty make reports to suit their governments in US and Western Europe.
Article 370 essentially upheld Jinnah s Two Nation Theory. Yet "secular' India implemented and kept it untouched.
Those who claim today that the present BJP government justifies the Theory are silent on Article 370. Thankfully it was abolished
Why andhbhakts have to expose their little knowledge all the time. Article 370 by the time it was removed only was a namesake. It was diluted already.
That was a Temporary article to give the time to local population out of their hundreds of years of oppressive feudal system , and integrate into Muslims of Hindostan as a first step which has been achieved by now , Kashmiriis have been with good sympathy and respect by Muslim of main land now.
Jai Hind !!!
@@eng.anwaaralawi7790 what feudal lmao it was a beacon of enlightened rule compared to the usual places indian muslims loved.
Pravin Swamy do not provide a alibi for the terrorist because by you same ghoulish logic all Kashmiri Pandits must have turned into terrorists. They did not so don't try to justify terrorism in Kashmir
It's actually your ghoulish logic that paints this narrative so narrowly.
@@IndianArma no, treating with ghouls is not ghoulish.
Chai wala"s son??? What about soldiers ....are they Ambani and adani?
India has to come to terms with the Islamic character of Kashmir and must abide by its own principles of a secular state. Otherwise Pakistan will always have an opening to cause insurgency in Kashmir. The only reason there is peace in Kashmir rightn now in because of the political turmoil in Pakistan caused by Bajwa's misadventures. Once that dust settles, Pakistan will once again turn its sights to Kashmir. India must prevent it from becoming its Afghanistan.
Being a BJP supporter I agree with your sentiments.
There should be removal of AFSPA and statehood should be given to Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh.
The travesty for Indian secularism is that it recognized rights at the group level, instead of recognizing rights at individual level. A secular state does not differentiate citizens by their religious affiliation, therefore the religious composition of a province doesn't accord it a different status. People need to think carefully whether they truly wish to live in a secular state.
Pakistan will be removed from this equation in the most surgical of ways. The process has already begun over the past 4 years and since paki army will not silently give away the golden goose of kashmir amd corner plots so easily its going to be a slow bleed. But bleed nevertheless. Time and pressure my friend,time and pressure.
India should remain become secular and Kashmir should be allowed to be Islamic 😅
Historic step.
Sir on my end there was some audio issues, I do not know whether it was print side or ISP issue. Just reporting as feedback.
Like Donald Rumsfeld once said (although he never implemented his own thinking!!) - "for any counter terrorism strategy -you have to think if you are creating more terrorists than killing" - the dividend of peace is to be utilized to redesign the strategy so we are not creating more terrorists.
Yessss! Thanks for listening to me. This is the kind of content we want from you. Long. Laid back. Explanatory. Would love a 3hr longer version too.
So remove the Disturbed Area tag. Remove Rashtriya Rifles which has only Army pers. And let civil administration run the show. Remove AFSPA & dont call the Army or RR. You can't have it both ways that involve RR for CI job & remove AFSPA also
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
Civilian engagement, political outreach and economic growth is the way forward for Kashmir. Indian armed forces are already stretched along the borders with belligerent China and an ever increasing threat from Islamabad not to forget the small pockets of Maoist influence left. Not to mention they have done their duties well by controlling the law and order which had seemed to have gone for a toss in the early 1990s. New Delhi is taking a bold step and it shows their confidence that kashmir has changed. Srinagar has moved from separatism and violence to development and political stability. The AFSPA is there to protect morale, confidence and prevent soldiers from judicial pressures which might have halted them from carrying out their duties fearlessly. The political climate has also seen a churn where the mainstream parties in Kashmir want statehood and socio-economic growth a nice break from the shrill Islamist, nationalistic and sometimes separatist rhetoric.
I look forward to your podcasts Mr Swamy..as much I look forward to CTC..keep up the great work
Vested interests got a field day all these years in Kashmir! Average/ ordinary man was fed on religious fanaticism and hate towards other people!😢
About time, i hope finally people in Kashmir can take a breath from the state violence. Hope peace prevails again in the valley and India in general ❤🎉
From state violence?
This is what happens when you just read 'awasmani kitab' without knowing your own history.
What happened in your Bangladesh in 1971 is called State Violence.And because of that state violence, many Bangladeshis left their country and came to India and settled here.
Now what is happening in Myanmar and Afghanistan is called state violence.
@@Subhadip2803 chill bro, take a deep breath. 😇
@@Subhadip2803 fyi i have a bachelor degree in political science and a master degree in International cooperation :)
@@usamahafeez3368 yeh! You have degrees...
that's why you don't know the differences between state violence and a state (or a place )affected by terrorism.
@@Subhadip2803 you're right, thank you for illuminating me. Have a nice day 👍🏽🙂
Would like another episode on the same topic but focussed more on the North East.
Yes like they promised 6th schedule to ladakh they will not do this one also ,they have made several promises but hardly kept any
Brilliant analysis 👏
Nice analysis sir
Some wrong and dangerous when an antinational is praising you.
Netanyahu made mistake by withdrawing army from Gaza.
Kashmir is not Gaza. And the tone of your comment seems to justify the colonizing tendencies in politicians like Netanyahu.
Gaza and Israel are too different countries, or atleast deserve to be. Kashmir and Kashmiris, including Muslim Kashmiris are Indians, as Indian as you or I. To paint every single Kashmiri, including a Kashmiri girl or boy, as people seething with jihAd and hate is actually to side with JihaDis rather than Bharat. Yes IsLam has a problem but the way is not to crush or dehumanize them, but as all real solutions, to continue engaging with them, while not sleeping when law and order is hampered. Befriend those who deserve peace and progress.
Kashmir and Gaza should be treated equally. Everyone knows it but don't speak due to political correctness and fear of beings termed as pisslamofobic
Army shall continue to remain in J&K.
There is 15 corps permanently stationed in Srinagar. There are Divisions in Kupwara and Baramulla.
Northern Command HQ is at Udhampur.
CRPF and JKP can take care of counter-terrorist operations.
@@jojijoseph6485 If you hate Islam keep hating but Kashmir is lane where there will be Kashmiris and yes Gov can put all sorts of pressure on the People of Kashmiri but this will only bring problems . Its all about intention, the ones who who are driven by hate and anger get buried under their own hatred . If you see Kashmir as a part of India You have to live with Kashmiris also whether You like Islam or not.... You have to live with the people. You will visit their state and Kashmiris will visit your state...If you talk like " Pisslamophovic and Khalistan " I am afraid that this will lead to further division of India and Bombs and Bullets won't stop it...Look at Manipur, people from Myanmar are entering...the Army can't do nothing because the Citizens are out of control..... Violence is not always the solution....The Manipur Govt who is the Puppet CM got so delusional that he let the Violence grow ...now it's out of his control... even the Central Government has to consider the deal with Terrorists...Is this the New India we want.
@@jojijoseph6485When You said Gaza and Kashmir are Similar You literally compared it as a Captured space , an occupied area ...Do you mean to say that India has illegally occupied Kashmir ?? Are you saying that India is a country which promotes Genocide ??
The politicians on both side of border between pakistan and india could have solved issues from day one. It was their incompetence which has led to human sufferings.
Really? It's the hate for non-Muslims which has fuelled this conflict. Similar things are going around in other countries. Thailand, Sudan, etc
Excellent
Armed forces are NOT IMMUNE as Pravin said under AFSPA.
Armed forces personnel have been persecuted and punished for small offenses like "slapping a civilian"... so called "Cold Blooded Murder" is something beyond comprehension for forces to commit.
Nothing goes Unpunished
AFSPA or no AFSPA.
Read 5 point of afspa
All fine now to make changes but bloody insurgency had to be countered by all means
Maybe required in Kerala
Lol
BJP becoming liberal, what andh bhakts feel
Just an election gimmick.he believes some Kashmiri Muslims will believe him on him THINKING about removal of afspa and vote for BJP and maybe just maybe win in some constituency
They are going to win handsomely in jammu and south kashmir, ladakh not so much, north kashmir will be interesting to watch.
People used to say this when 370 was not abrogated
Pravin swami.. what about the massacre and rape of kashmiri pandits in 1990. Please see kashmir files.. it will give you some insight as to why BSF was furious at villagers...
And please don't give me the shit that few terrorists did all this..
It was the majority of the society which was involved in all this.
Is the removal a mid-step by Amit Shah ? What are the long term implications ??? There are forces within India that can only understand force and is India ready to face the consequences ???
Biggest mistake
1)Praveen the while story you created looks like a lullaby for a 👶. I just don't understand whether Kashmiri Pandits can return and resettle, the answer is "no" or Ruling party does not care. 2) You then quoted a Commission report about alleged atrocities committed by Army but there was no mention of number of Army personal who died, including the brutal attack on Truck transporting Soliders.3) there was no statistics no pros and cons of how5.5 lakh Hindus very hunted, raped and asked to fled .
Acc to census thr are only 1 lakh kps stop watching movie's
@@endofworld200 So 1 lac displaced Kps is okay for you displaced and living in dilapidated houses and made fun of whichever state they go to. Being Indians living in such a pathetic state and having no support provided
Don't spread lies on our forces.....
Mister, have you worked in any of the forces or the pressure each uniformed individual face when they work in disturbed areas. You talk like a messiah for human rights etc. etc.
You don't understand the problems of the armed forces.
Hello Amit, can you rescind the bifurcation of the erstwhile state of J&K? Do you have the ba**s man?
Its biggest mistake
Gykrr
"Game-changer" has become an overused clichè
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India was never secular the 2 nation theory was a reality which congress refused to recognize despite the reality of kashmir , Pakistan, bangladesh, riots within india , etc the bjp finally recognized the truth and fought fire with fire extinguishing insurgency in kashmir, surgical strikes on Pakistan stopped insurgencies, northeast was secured by amit shah by giving freehand to forces, signing security pacts , developing the areas and fulfilling their regional demands except for NSCN (IM) and kukis almost all of the insurgents have given up terrorism
Stop reading whatsapp messages and visit those states for real situational experience.
@@merebaap8370 sure kashmiri pandit exodus was a lie , right ??? (Sarcasm)
@@merebaap8370 why are there personal laws for Muslims , Christians if india is a secular nation ??? You are brainwashed .
@@nobody4u77 So let us know apart from using them for political gains and debating points any meaningful thing that any of you have done for them? ( No Sarcasm-plain fact)
@@nobody4u77 What is HUF then for hindus? You are brainwashed and brought up on whatsapp gyan and lot of victimized mentality.
Narrative🤦♀️
WORLD SHOULD PRESSURE INDIA TO FREE INDIAN OCCUPIED KASHMIR
First lol
Election Jumla
Jumla of BJP
How
Never appreciate landmark work pappus sena
Oh look a newbie from ladakh who wants another 370 like bullcrap in ladakh, wont happen. And funsukh wangdu will find out the hard way the results of trying to destroy ladakh.
Was 370 and Ram mandir Jumla😂😂😂😂😂....
They will remove it for sure to c whether people of Kashmir can digest such freedom😂😂😂If they will choose violence, then Afspa will come very soon again😂😂😂😂😂
I hope kashmiri wouldn't fall for BJPiss lie
Swami ji, I fail to understand, why people of your gener rush to speak very softly for anything pertaining to Kashmir. We have seen times, when entire opposition will rush to the rabid pro pakistan, Syed Gilani, for a pow vow. Let government work per its perception of situation. This government has improved Kashmir situation greatly. Unimaginable, in UPA times. so, please refrain from jumping the gun and let government do its wonderful work.
Swamy now seems more humane and objective, not so much anti-kashmiri racist reporter.
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊
After the election amit sha will says ....that was a jumla😊