After watching your review I bought the Baton 3 Pro Max . It is all you stated in your review. Very happy with my new Olight. Keep up those good reviews. 👍🏻
Seriously, I don't know how you manage to create so many great videos over such a short timeframe! That's serious dedication, it takes me a year to make as many as you've made in a week and yours are much more involved!
Completely agree with you. I'm a total EDC junkie because my job requires multiple must have EDC tools, especially a compact powerful light. I'm always watching reviews of new lights, folding pocket knives, multitools, portable solar power bank charging units etc, and Cheule's content is among the best out there.
I didn't think that my Olight Seeker 3 Pro would become an obsolete flashlight so quickly. This new Baton has everything I wanted in my three month old Seeker. Small and the ability to disable the proximity sensor, it's awesome. Thank you for your review.
Just received the magnesium alloy version in tan today directly from Olight. Definitely very lightweight! I'm digging the battery capacity and the output but it's almost too floody for me on an average semi-dark Street in my neighborhood. Just came in from my first test walk with it and on high and turbo it's quite adequate, but my personal preference, except for battery capacity, might be the warrior Mini version 2 just because of the added throw. I guess we all have our preferences which is why there are so many flashlights!!! 😅👍🔦🔦🔦 Great review is always in many thanks for your detailed presentations!
Great review. I picked up the tan magnesium alloy B3PM and am quite impressed with it so far. The excellent Seeker 3 Pro has been my go-to 21700 light, but was too big to EDC. The B3PM excites me because it uses the same battery but in a much more compact, pocketable form factor. One of Olight’s best designs to date for sure.
If you find a better place to test these flashlights outdoors, maybe more people will watch your video. It would be nice if it was a darker place and you would add distances to the illuminated objects, e.g.: 50m/164ft tree. This is what most people like about flashlight tests and find the most useful. Don't take this comment as hate, just advice :)
I bet Olight would double their sales if they stopped using proprietary batteries. Thanks for this video as I didn’t know the MAX existed. I EDC the Baton 3 Pro
Don't know about that because then they wouldn't have the magnetic chargers. The magnetic chargers are what drew me to Olight. Now I have a full collection, my family and friends have lights too.
@@knife_knut there is no in-between with Olight. People either love them or hate them. Both sides have an excellent arguments too. It comes down to preference in the end
25:25 I definitely have had metal filings get jammed in the tail switch on my Warrior 3S. It's rather annoying. Thankfully the toothpick from a swiss army knife comes in clutch. It's nice to see they released a vastly improved Baton 3 Pro and slapped Max on it (lol.) Really pulling an apple naming scheme here. 21700 cells are no joke! Love my Warrior 3S and honestly thinking I might be a flashlight junky. Gonna have to pick up the Baton 3 Pro Max with the help of the huge amount of discounts I get. Olight sure does reward loyalty. To anyone considering dipping their toes into Olight. This is the place to start. This light is an amazing value. I believe most people could benefit from a light like this. You can get one for $63 before shipping/tax. At the moment there is a Flashsale. Absolute steal. Given the variety of colors, finishes and emitter temps you have a ton of options to choose from. Thank you for the review. Your lubricating video was super helpful to me!
We neeeeeed this light!!! Especially in the natural color of magnesium (maybe tumbled?) and also with the option of neutral and warm whites. Not just the black in those variant hues.
I LIKE WHAT THEY DID WITH THE EMITTER AND THE BEAM PATTERN. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT INCANDESCENTS THAT LED'S HAVE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING RIGHT IS THE BEAM PATTERN AND HOW THAT LENDS ITSELF TO PRACTICALITY. GLAD TO SEE THEY ARE MAKING STRIDES IN RIGHT DIRECTION
Interesting you say incandescents have had better beam patterns… I disagree there. Maglites and their ilk have simply awful beam patterns with dark regions and rings in the beam. Because LED emitters are so small, the light is more focused and provides much more consistent beam shapes than irregular tungsten filaments in ill-fitting bulb sockets.
This is a wonderful light from Olight. I have been buying them for years now and the only problem I've ever had was with the baton 3 pro ! A well known issue with the proximity sensor! Still a good light , but then the baton 3 pro max came along and its the best light I have had from them? I have the green and the black ones and love them! I really like the fact you can disable the proximity sensor if you wish but this one works fine!
I hate the sensors on these lights. My baton 3 pro I got failed due to the sensor failing. And because initially you couldn’t disable the sensor on the pro (the sensor on the pro was disabled after all the issues) I’m glad you can permanently disable the sensor on this light tho. I may give them a second chance because that.
The sensor on my BOSS is user selectable for sensitivity, as well as can be disabled). And since the BOSS has 4 editable user mode groups (basically four flashlights in one) you can activate or disable it on the fly. All this is to say, bounce sensors CAN be implemented correctly..
@@cheule maybe they can. I’m honest just a little biased. As a master technician of over a decade it just doesn’t make sense to me to add points of failure in an item that can be utilized to the fullest without. If it can fail it eventually will 🤷♂️
@@cheule Great videos! By the way, your BOSS has a sleep timer as well! It’s called “motion sensing” and you can have it dim after one minute and turn off after ten minutes as well as a quicker option of dimming after ten seconds and sleeping after one minute. Let me know if you have any questions about it
I'm glad they put a stronger magnet this time. I have the Warrior Mini 2 and Seeker 3 Pro and while the tails are magnetic, they are not strong enough to stick on steel surfaces and are strictly for the charger.
Biggest flaw in my opinion with any baton 3 no matter the size, is the clip position. It’s on the wrong end. I don’t like carrying lens up and whenever I put it in my pocket the knurling scrapes along my pants really bad. Because of this I find myself using the reverse side of the clip which doesn’t work as well and isn’t as deep of a carry. Unlike any other light or even knife that I have. Big flaw for me and honestly a deal breaker when I can just carry a different Olight. I’ve been loving the arkfeld
Another great review! The updates to the proximity sensor alone prove that olight really listens to customer feedback. But, they are also giving more emitter options, way to go olight!
This was hands down the best review I've seen to date. You have definitely sold me on this flashlight, and I am now subscribed. I'm not sure how I haven't seen your videos yet. That little pen looks like it would be more "natural" feeling to open with your left hand since the mechanism is flipped. Great review. Thank you for breaking it down so well. I'm looking forward to the warm white video
Your light reviews are the best out there. I have two Baton 3's and two Baton 3 Pro's and absolutely love them, so there's no way I'll be able to resist picking up the OD green Max when Olight's first 2023 sale starts in a few days. A 2500 lumens Baton 3 for only $63 bucks? Sign my ass up! And that wall mounted L bracket is so convenient. I work for a water municipality and a compact but powerful EDC light is a must have. For me personally compactness is king, and both the Baton 3 and Baton 3 Pro are incredible compact lights. The new Max crushes the size to power ratio and hits a perfect sweet spot between the Pro and Warrior 3S. Can't wait to score this light.
Olight tends to get a lot of hate from the flashlight community. They were my stepping stone into higher end lights and their customer service is excellent. I'm excited to see them stepping their game up! As always, awesome review Cheule. Thanks for what you do for the community, and providing such a wealth of information for both the beginners and pioneers.
I’m a welder and I use the baton 2 for a work light. There’s pretty much always some metal shavings on it but the only time it’s a problem is when there’s so much built up that it won’t stick to whatever surface you’re trying to put it on. A quick wipe off is all that is needed to cure that problem. I can see how it might be aggravating to some though.
Amazing review, Finally a strong Olight that you can disable the prox sensor. I’m a first responder and I work around shiny metal and have to peer through glass all the time. Glass reflections constantly trigger the prox sensor so I’ve had to keep using my old lower lumen lights or other brands. Keep up the great reviews of Olights!
The only thing I don’t like about it is how sensitive the shake to wake battery indicator is. Seems like it always turning on. I’m sure it doesn’t suck much juice at all, but still an unnecessary battery killer.
Olight is at the top of the game and _everybody_ is playing for second place. Intuitive UI, compact physical size versus competition, competitive outputs/runtimes, refined milling, good design/looks, available in NON-BLACK (a huge feature for myself as I hate black things) and now a choice of emitter colors. What is there to complain about?! I understand that hardcore enthusiast community guys must hate whatever is the most popular just to be different and contrarian but I am an Olight fan, I will admit. They comprise most of my collection and I don't see a compelling reason to go elsewhere. Yeah, sure, customized/proprietary batteries, blah blah blah, but how often do these batteries fail? Bought my first CR123 battery six years ago and it's still working just fine. I suspect that most flashaholics will grow tired of the flashlight or be on to the next next next one before they wear out their battery cells. Does anybody know what tint the magnesium light is in? Website doesn't list a CW/NW.
Could you make a video explaining the different driver types somewhat in depth? Like Boost, Buck, Direct, Fet+1 and all that stuff? How they work, what their effect is and so on. I get really confused on them
Hey, make sure to fact check this but it should get you stared and message me if you find any videos as I am interested in them too: 1. Direct Drive Drivers: Direct drive drivers are simple in design and do not require any complex circuitry. The output brightness of the flashlight is directly proportional to the battery voltage. As voltage decreases, the light will dim and draw less current. 2. Linear Drivers: Linear drivers use a linear regulator to regulate the output current of the flashlight. A certain amount of current is allowed to pass through it, typically 350mA. A linear driver regulates output current by dropping the input voltage from the battery to an output voltage to match the forward voltage of the emitter. This means that the input voltage coming from the battery needs to be higher than the output voltage, and the difference between the two voltages is dissipated as heat within the driver. 3. FET Drivers: FET (Field Effect Transistor) drivers use a transistor to regulate the output current of the flashlight. The voltage from the battery is always at full power, and the driver uses pulse-width modulation (PWM) to control the amount of current that flows to the LED. The FET switch turns on and off rapidly to adjust the amount of time that the LED is powered on, and this determines the brightness level. FET drivers can generate heat due to the switching of the current, so they may require additional cooling or thermal management. 4. Boost driver, In a MOSFET driver, the driver uses an inductor to boost the voltage from the battery to a higher level before regulating the current to the LED. The MOSFET turns on and off rapidly to control the amount of current flowing through the inductor, and this indirectly regulates the current to the LED. The voltage across the LED is determined by the input voltage and the duty cycle of the MOSFET.
Just ordered the magnesium model for myself, excited to get it! If there’s one thing I would change it’s the option to swith the position of the pocket clip like on the Warrior Mini 2. I’m assuming the upgraded version after this Pro Max model will include the option to change the position of the pocket clip. To me it makes so much more sense to keep the emitter down, especially in a backpack organizer pocker where I might damage the glass if I throw in a laptop charger or anything a bit more heavy and angular.
got my pro 3 max a couple days ago and it's almost always on my hip , love it!!! 9:45 omg thank you!! the instructions make it seem like it needs to be connected to the charger to disable the sensor, I tried that and it changed from dimming when close to my hand to strobing between turbo and high over and over , now it just stays on turbo or high if I get it close to anything. which is strange because unless on for awhile AND touching something flammable I don't see an issue... compared to this laser pointer I have that definitely catches stuff on fire, you can even etch with it.
I feel like from time to time, the cutting edge technology can be found coming from either large manufacturers or small artisans. They seem to trade that influence back and forth over time. Right now it seems like large manufacturers are starting to drive the technology, with proximity switches, enthusiast preferred emitters and tints, dual channels, and the like. It’s an exciting time to live in! I love that some of these really cool features are coming to more easily accessible lights. It’s not like everyone can or will get their hands on a BOSS (I wish everyone could though, they’re amazing) so I’m excited that more people will be able to get this great tech in hand.
I was a little worried you would leave us flashlight hobbyists behind when you started doing olight videos, but I have been pleasantly surprised by the content the last few months. Even it’s a bit of a promo type video, you cover all the same stuff you did back in the day with the less well funded brands. Thank you. Enjoyed this a lot.
I do enjoy Olights and have a few of them.. I just really wish they would bring back the flood pattern of the Baton Pro.. give me 2k plus lumes and above all.. tail cap activation and redesign it. In a high stress situation I need turbo asap.. my motor skills won’t let me do 2 taps 😂
I'm actually quite impressed here... This is one of the best EDC light configurations out there at the moment. Great "muggle" design but really talking to the enthusiast market at the same time. The only thing I think I could argue here is the beam profile, I would prefer that extra little focus in the middle rather than all that flood... But still very good for EDC. If it's in the D4K ballpark as a 21700-sized light, then I'm gonna want one - to me, the extra convenience features have always been a positive with Olight. Nice review, -Cheule-!
I love how thorough this review is. I am definitely digging the Pro Max. I have the Baton 3 Pro in Purple, I love it. I am definitely going to scoop this one up during the sale. I am glad I am now subscribed to your videos, I clicked the bell so I will get notified about all the ones you do from now on.
I have this as well. Solid flashlight, but I always found that the "Shake to see the battery life" feature to be really sensitive. It goes off even when I don't even shake it. It's not a deal breaker, but can get irritating at times.
Love the content bro!! Found your channel few months ago and I was instantly hooked!! This baton 3 pro max looks sick. Def picking 1 up. Just wish olight would go back to stating what LED is in each model like in the old days..
25:30 my warrior mini ultimately failed from picking up debri on the tail switch. That why i decided to stay away from the tail switch. I loved having the tail switch but it needs some work so for now I'll go with the pro 3 max.
Everything looks great with this light. I just wish it had 1 more mode around 300-400 lumens and it would have been stupendous! Thanks for the well detailed video 🤙🤙
I can see one disadvantage with the flood light with less defined beam...when you are trying to see something far away the light pollution from the objects near you would obscure what you are trying to identify in the distance, essentially blinding your vision. Not so good when trying to identify something in the bush in the outdoors.
Awesome review as always! You’re the best! I hope OLIGHT releases this new baton 3 pro max in the FIRE / Spring color. I’m not fond of the initial release colors. I’m In my mid 50s I prefer BRIGHT colors as it’s getting harder to see in low light, thus my new hobby collecting Olights 😂
I have the Baton 3 pro and I use it on my hat as a headlamp sometimes. Do you think this new one would work as a hat light or is it too heavy? I like the new floody beam.
Good question. I’ve been able to use a Warrior 3S as a hat light at 153g, and this is 125g or so. So yes, it’s possible. But it’s also heavy-so not comfortable.
Did you say floodierness? I love it! I love Olight flashlights! I've got a baton II, and I'm getting ready to order the baton 3 pro max in just a minute. Thanks for the review.
Hmm, magnesium body and emitter swap to something warm or neutral. It would be great light! I love exotics materials. Magnesium is in my wish list now 😀
@@abigailsaoirsefinnegan This particular model does, it was designed that way🤦♂ And what exactly do you mean by "thermal regulation"? it steps down just like every other light, I'm not sure where you're coming from......
Is the bezel easily removable on this one? Just watched your Warrior 3S emitter swap vid, and it has given me some hope for a swap on this one for a higher CRI swap, but that bezel doesnt look easily removable. I have ordered one in NW already thanks to your review here
@@squirts1 for one, peace of mind. No need to worry that the light will set your pants on fire if you carry it in the pockets, but the light is still ready instantly
@@maggi98mw yeah I don't see that as a useful feature personally. That's what lockout is for... If you're not using the lockout the light can still come on and get hot. It's a silly gimmick. Just like putting vibrator motors in flashlights is a silly gimmick.
My personal preference always are flood lights, Lol and as a huge olight critic, because of their LED choices and UI, just could never bring myself to purchasing one. but between this and the seeker three pro, I’m in, if you have any other suggestions for any of their other lights that are pure flood would be appreciated.👍🏽
I'm in between this one and the warrior mini 2 I like this one better because of the high lumens but it looks so bulky I can't imagine making it apart of my EDC it'll take me back to my maglite days. How this one on the jean pockets? I carry the I5t now and its great just looking to upgrade.
This is incredibly small for 21700 - much smaller than a Warrior 3S for example. I have no issue edcing it, but then I will occasionally pocket the Warrior 3S! So maybe I’m not the guy to ask. But in practice I don’t find this any worse to pocket than a KR1. One thing that should be noted, the W2M has a more focused beam. This one is more floody. I find this ideal for close up work, but the Warrior 2 mini would fair better outside.
I'm done trying to get a reasonably small light that has both a good flood and a good throw in one. I already have a good long throw now I have a good flood with the max.
Great review. I was wondering about the beam pattern as the MAX has higher lumen output, but shorter throw than the Pro. In real life usage I don't need the focused beam at extreme distances since I can't see clearly that far anyway. I just wish the neutral white temp was available in other colors as I have too many black colored lights and they're harder to find in the dark.
Just FYI, the little gold tip on the end of the Open Mini works as a stylus for a touchpad, like your phone (I don't know if that's the intended design, but it works pretty reliably as one as long as it's perpendicular from the screen.
Just found your channel. Blown away. This is the EXACT video I’ve been hoping for as I’m torn between pro and pro max, mainly based on EDC size and form factor. Is the max worth the carry?
Looks like we are entering a "smart flashlights age" with that motion sensor and proximity sensor. Do you think other big brands are going to adopt this kind of technology?
Think your gonna need a vacation after all these reviews I’m just watching and it’s a lot great job busting out a lot of reviews for the giveaway and keeping them like you normally do!
Everything is on point here. I like the different temp and alloy offerings. One nit pick, would like a deep carry bezel down option. Thanks for a thorough review.
After watching your review I bought the Baton 3 Pro Max . It is all you stated in your review. Very happy with my new Olight. Keep up those good reviews. 👍🏻
Great to hear!
The big advantage to the new baton pro is it finally has a neutral white and warm white option.
I have yet to own a warm white flashlight. I plan to make this one my first. I’m a huge fan of soft lighting
I hate Olight because every time it's better.
Exactly, I just bought the Baton 3 Pro a few weeks ago
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Remember poor is just a mindset. You’ll get it one day bud
Seriously, I don't know how you manage to create so many great videos over such a short timeframe! That's serious dedication, it takes me a year to make as many as you've made in a week and yours are much more involved!
I’m so very tired… back to normal schedule soon!
Completely agree with you. I'm a total EDC junkie because my job requires multiple must have EDC tools, especially a compact powerful light. I'm always watching reviews of new lights, folding pocket knives, multitools, portable solar power bank charging units etc, and Cheule's content is among the best out there.
I didn't think that my Olight Seeker 3 Pro would become an obsolete flashlight so quickly. This new Baton has everything I wanted in my three month old Seeker. Small and the ability to disable the proximity sensor, it's awesome. Thank you for your review.
Welcome!
Just received the magnesium alloy version in tan today directly from Olight. Definitely very lightweight! I'm digging the battery capacity and the output but it's almost too floody for me on an average semi-dark Street in my neighborhood. Just came in from my first test walk with it and on high and turbo it's quite adequate, but my personal preference, except for battery capacity, might be the warrior Mini version 2 just because of the added throw. I guess we all have our preferences which is why there are so many flashlights!!! 😅👍🔦🔦🔦
Great review is always in many thanks for your detailed presentations!
Great review. I picked up the tan magnesium alloy B3PM and am quite impressed with it so far. The excellent Seeker 3 Pro has been my go-to 21700 light, but was too big to EDC. The B3PM excites me because it uses the same battery but in a much more compact, pocketable form factor. One of Olight’s best designs to date for sure.
The design is really remarkable!
@@cheule Instead of carrying the MCC cable while traveling, I preferred to use the O-Port but sadly Olight has discontinued it 😢
If you find a better place to test these flashlights outdoors, maybe more people will watch your video. It would be nice if it was a darker place and you would add distances to the illuminated objects, e.g.: 50m/164ft tree. This is what most people like about flashlight tests and find the most useful.
Don't take this comment as hate, just advice :)
I find it all very “real world.” Any flashlight looks bright in complete darkness.
@@cheule i also really like that you always have the same place with the same lights. Makes it easier to compare between videos.
I just bought 3 pros and they come out with this pro max? Fine. Take my money.
I know how it feels!
I love the Baton 3 Pro Max. I wish they had included the option for choosing neutral white in the magnesium model.
Yea, hopefully they'll come out with the warm white again in fancy Mg.
Geez, its such a good/tiny size for a 21700 powered light. :o Now to see if the emitter variety trickles down to their smaller batons
I bet Olight would double their sales if they stopped using proprietary batteries. Thanks for this video as I didn’t know the MAX existed. I EDC the Baton 3 Pro
Don't know about that because then they wouldn't have the magnetic chargers. The magnetic chargers are what drew me to Olight. Now I have a full collection, my family and friends have lights too.
@@fvahamonde I hear you. I guess some people love them & some people hate them.
@@knife_knut there is no in-between with Olight. People either love them or hate them. Both sides have an excellent arguments too. It comes down to preference in the end
Dang it! I just got the Pro and now I have to get the pro max 😂
Right there with you bud…..
Ditto :(
25:25 I definitely have had metal filings get jammed in the tail switch on my Warrior 3S. It's rather annoying. Thankfully the toothpick from a swiss army knife comes in clutch.
It's nice to see they released a vastly improved Baton 3 Pro and slapped Max on it (lol.) Really pulling an apple naming scheme here. 21700 cells are no joke! Love my Warrior 3S and honestly thinking I might be a flashlight junky. Gonna have to pick up the Baton 3 Pro Max with the help of the huge amount of discounts I get. Olight sure does reward loyalty.
To anyone considering dipping their toes into Olight. This is the place to start. This light is an amazing value. I believe most people could benefit from a light like this. You can get one for $63 before shipping/tax. At the moment there is a Flashsale. Absolute steal. Given the variety of colors, finishes and emitter temps you have a ton of options to choose from.
Thank you for the review. Your lubricating video was super helpful to me!
Yes, I agree 100%
We neeeeeed this light!!! Especially in the natural color of magnesium (maybe tumbled?) and also with the option of neutral and warm whites. Not just the black in those variant hues.
I LIKE WHAT THEY DID WITH THE EMITTER AND THE BEAM PATTERN. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT INCANDESCENTS THAT LED'S HAVE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING RIGHT IS THE BEAM PATTERN AND HOW THAT LENDS ITSELF TO PRACTICALITY. GLAD TO SEE THEY ARE MAKING STRIDES IN RIGHT DIRECTION
Interesting you say incandescents have had better beam patterns… I disagree there. Maglites and their ilk have simply awful beam patterns with dark regions and rings in the beam. Because LED emitters are so small, the light is more focused and provides much more consistent beam shapes than irregular tungsten filaments in ill-fitting bulb sockets.
This is a wonderful light from Olight. I have been buying them for years now and the only problem I've ever had was with the baton 3 pro ! A well known issue with the proximity sensor! Still a good light , but then the baton 3 pro max came along and its the best light I have had from them? I have the green and the black ones and love them!
I really like the fact you can disable the proximity sensor if you wish but this one works fine!
I agree completely.
+1 for giving the users the options to choose from 3 different CCT.
Warm White pocket flood. Best indoor EDC.
I hate the sensors on these lights. My baton 3 pro I got failed due to the sensor failing. And because initially you couldn’t disable the sensor on the pro (the sensor on the pro was disabled after all the issues) I’m glad you can permanently disable the sensor on this light tho. I may give them a second chance because that.
The sensor on my BOSS is user selectable for sensitivity, as well as can be disabled). And since the BOSS has 4 editable user mode groups (basically four flashlights in one) you can activate or disable it on the fly. All this is to say, bounce sensors CAN be implemented correctly..
@@cheule maybe they can. I’m honest just a little biased. As a master technician of over a decade it just doesn’t make sense to me to add points of failure in an item that can be utilized to the fullest without.
If it can fail it eventually will 🤷♂️
@@cheule Great videos! By the way, your BOSS has a sleep timer as well! It’s called “motion sensing” and you can have it dim after one minute and turn off after ten minutes as well as a quicker option of dimming after ten seconds and sleeping after one minute. Let me know if you have any questions about it
I'm glad they put a stronger magnet this time. I have the Warrior Mini 2 and Seeker 3 Pro and while the tails are magnetic, they are not strong enough to stick on steel surfaces and are strictly for the charger.
Biggest flaw in my opinion with any baton 3 no matter the size, is the clip position. It’s on the wrong end. I don’t like carrying lens up and whenever I put it in my pocket the knurling scrapes along my pants really bad. Because of this I find myself using the reverse side of the clip which doesn’t work as well and isn’t as deep of a carry. Unlike any other light or even knife that I have. Big flaw for me and honestly a deal breaker when I can just carry a different Olight. I’ve been loving the arkfeld
Another great review! The updates to the proximity sensor alone prove that olight really listens to customer feedback. But, they are also giving more emitter options, way to go olight!
This was hands down the best review I've seen to date. You have definitely sold me on this flashlight, and I am now subscribed. I'm not sure how I haven't seen your videos yet.
That little pen looks like it would be more "natural" feeling to open with your left hand since the mechanism is flipped. Great review. Thank you for breaking it down so well. I'm looking forward to the warm white video
Your light reviews are the best out there. I have two Baton 3's and two Baton 3 Pro's and absolutely love them, so there's no way I'll be able to resist picking up the OD green Max when Olight's first 2023 sale starts in a few days. A 2500 lumens Baton 3 for only $63 bucks? Sign my ass up! And that wall mounted L bracket is so convenient. I work for a water municipality and a compact but powerful EDC light is a must have. For me personally compactness is king, and both the Baton 3 and Baton 3 Pro are incredible compact lights. The new Max crushes the size to power ratio and hits a perfect sweet spot between the Pro and Warrior 3S. Can't wait to score this light.
Olight tends to get a lot of hate from the flashlight community. They were my stepping stone into higher end lights and their customer service is excellent. I'm excited to see them stepping their game up! As always, awesome review Cheule. Thanks for what you do for the community, and providing such a wealth of information for both the beginners and pioneers.
Everything mainstream in a hobby gets hate. Doesn’t matter if it’s good or bad. People like to feel they know what the good stuff is.
I’m a welder and I use the baton 2 for a work light. There’s pretty much always some metal shavings on it but the only time it’s a problem is when there’s so much built up that it won’t stick to whatever surface you’re trying to put it on. A quick wipe off is all that is needed to cure that problem. I can see how it might be aggravating to some though.
Amazing review, Finally a strong Olight that you can disable the prox sensor. I’m a first responder and I work around shiny metal and have to peer through glass all the time. Glass reflections constantly trigger the prox sensor so I’ve had to keep using my old lower lumen lights or other brands. Keep up the great reviews of Olights!
I so appreciate when people lock the white balance so you can actually see the difference between lights.😄
The only thing I don’t like about it is how sensitive the shake to wake battery indicator is. Seems like it always turning on. I’m sure it doesn’t suck much juice at all, but still an unnecessary battery killer.
Olight is at the top of the game and _everybody_ is playing for second place. Intuitive UI, compact physical size versus competition, competitive outputs/runtimes, refined milling, good design/looks, available in NON-BLACK (a huge feature for myself as I hate black things) and now a choice of emitter colors. What is there to complain about?!
I understand that hardcore enthusiast community guys must hate whatever is the most popular just to be different and contrarian but I am an Olight fan, I will admit. They comprise most of my collection and I don't see a compelling reason to go elsewhere. Yeah, sure, customized/proprietary batteries, blah blah blah, but how often do these batteries fail? Bought my first CR123 battery six years ago and it's still working just fine. I suspect that most flashaholics will grow tired of the flashlight or be on to the next next next one before they wear out their battery cells.
Does anybody know what tint the magnesium light is in? Website doesn't list a CW/NW.
My understanding is the non-CW is black only. That the Tan would be CW.
Awesome review.
More lumens more flood, great excuse to carry a compact thrower, as a running mate.
Olight always raising the bar!
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Could you make a video explaining the different driver types somewhat in depth? Like Boost, Buck, Direct, Fet+1 and all that stuff? How they work, what their effect is and so on. I get really confused on them
Hey, make sure to fact check this but it should get you stared and message me if you find any videos as I am interested in them too: 1. Direct Drive Drivers: Direct drive drivers are simple in design and do not require any complex circuitry. The output brightness of the flashlight is directly proportional to the battery voltage. As voltage decreases, the light will dim and draw less current.
2. Linear Drivers: Linear drivers use a linear regulator to regulate the output current of the flashlight. A certain amount of current is allowed to pass through it, typically 350mA. A linear driver regulates output current by dropping the input voltage from the battery to an output voltage to match the forward voltage of the emitter. This means that the input voltage coming from the battery needs to be higher than the output voltage, and the difference between the two voltages is dissipated as heat within the driver.
3. FET Drivers: FET (Field Effect Transistor) drivers use a transistor to regulate the output current of the flashlight. The voltage from the battery is always at full power, and the driver uses pulse-width modulation (PWM) to control the amount of current that flows to the LED. The FET switch turns on and off rapidly to adjust the amount of time that the LED is powered on, and this determines the brightness level. FET drivers can generate heat due to the switching of the current, so they may require additional cooling or thermal management.
4. Boost driver, In a MOSFET driver, the driver uses an inductor to boost the voltage from the battery to a higher level before regulating the current to the LED. The MOSFET turns on and off rapidly to control the amount of current flowing through the inductor, and this indirectly regulates the current to the LED. The voltage across the LED is determined by the input voltage and the duty cycle of the MOSFET.
Just ordered the magnesium model for myself, excited to get it! If there’s one thing I would change it’s the option to swith the position of the pocket clip like on the Warrior Mini 2. I’m assuming the upgraded version after this Pro Max model will include the option to change the position of the pocket clip. To me it makes so much more sense to keep the emitter down, especially in a backpack organizer pocker where I might damage the glass if I throw in a laptop charger or anything a bit more heavy and angular.
Agreed about the clip!
Just got a warrior 3s but has to get the baton 3 pro max in that purple color it looks crazy
Just saw their flash sale was announced and came straight here to see if you had a video on this flashlight. Thank you, sir!
A month ago I knew nothing about fancy flashlights, after binge watching your videos I think I now know too much haha.
Welcome to the rabbit hole! Join us at r/flashlights on reddit as well.
I love the new features on this Baton 3 Pro Max!
I have not purchased any Olight products for some time now, but this one is tempting me. Thank you for the nice review.
You’re welcome 😊
As soon as I saw the warm white available I was hoping you'd get one and see how the CCT and tint was :)
I asked them to send me one, it’s on its way if you can wait!
@@cheule Oh wow that's awesome! :)
@@cheule I’m stuck between the neutral white and warm white. Will you be able to review the warm white before the sale goes live?
got my pro 3 max a couple days ago and it's almost always on my hip , love it!!!
9:45 omg thank you!! the instructions make it seem like it needs to be connected to the charger to disable the sensor, I tried that and it changed from dimming when close to my hand to strobing between turbo and high over and over , now it just stays on turbo or high if I get it close to anything.
which is strange because unless on for awhile AND touching something flammable I don't see an issue... compared to this laser pointer I have that definitely catches stuff on fire, you can even etch with it.
Your tint readings on the pro max was with a neutral emitter. Does the CW emitter have a different tint reading? The tint on a CW will be more blue?
I feel like from time to time, the cutting edge technology can be found coming from either large manufacturers or small artisans. They seem to trade that influence back and forth over time. Right now it seems like large manufacturers are starting to drive the technology, with proximity switches, enthusiast preferred emitters and tints, dual channels, and the like.
It’s an exciting time to live in! I love that some of these really cool features are coming to more easily accessible lights. It’s not like everyone can or will get their hands on a BOSS (I wish everyone could though, they’re amazing) so I’m excited that more people will be able to get this great tech in hand.
This was an insightful comment.
I was a little worried you would leave us flashlight hobbyists behind when you started doing olight videos, but I have been pleasantly surprised by the content the last few months. Even it’s a bit of a promo type video, you cover all the same stuff you did back in the day with the less well funded brands. Thank you. Enjoyed this a lot.
Love the memory feature and the proximity sensor! Brilliant designing!
I do enjoy Olights and have a few of them.. I just really wish they would bring back the flood pattern of the Baton Pro.. give me 2k plus lumes and above all.. tail cap activation and redesign it. In a high stress situation I need turbo asap.. my motor skills won’t let me do 2 taps 😂
I like your clean concise review style. I just ordered this one and your video made me happier about the purchase. Thanks!
I've been a member at CPF Forum since 2002! Glad I found your channel. I just bought this. I'm still using my Inova T3!
I'm actually quite impressed here... This is one of the best EDC light configurations out there at the moment. Great "muggle" design but really talking to the enthusiast market at the same time. The only thing I think I could argue here is the beam profile, I would prefer that extra little focus in the middle rather than all that flood... But still very good for EDC.
If it's in the D4K ballpark as a 21700-sized light, then I'm gonna want one - to me, the extra convenience features have always been a positive with Olight.
Nice review, -Cheule-!
I can see that. But everyone has their own opinion on that, so who am I to say.
What A Great INDEPTH Review!!!!! Great Job.
I love how thorough this review is. I am definitely digging the Pro Max. I have the Baton 3 Pro in Purple, I love it. I am definitely going to scoop this one up during the sale. I am glad I am now subscribed to your videos, I clicked the bell so I will get notified about all the ones you do from now on.
I have this as well. Solid flashlight, but I always found that the "Shake to see the battery life" feature to be really sensitive. It goes off even when I don't even shake it. It's not a deal breaker, but can get irritating at times.
Fantastic Review! So Thorough about so many facets and features. Thank you!
Love the content bro!! Found your channel few months ago and I was instantly hooked!! This baton 3 pro max looks sick. Def picking 1 up. Just wish olight would go back to stating what LED is in each model like in the old days..
Yes, it can be frustrating. My guess is XHP50.3. But I’m not sure.
Great review, the battery indicator seems a bit wonky. I love how Thrunite does it with the Blue-Red-Flashing Red...
Green / orange / red / flashing doesn’t work for you?
Looks like I will be picking one of these up. Not crazy about the battery indicator, but not a big deal.
Pass, I’ll wait for the Olight Baton 3 Pro Max Ultra Deluxe Limited Edition.
haha...I bet the ultimate edition will be Nuetral light now available in magnesium tan
25:30 my warrior mini ultimately failed from picking up debri on the tail switch. That why i decided to stay away from the tail switch. I loved having the tail switch but it needs some work so for now I'll go with the pro 3 max.
Everything looks great with this light. I just wish it had 1 more mode around 300-400 lumens and it would have been stupendous! Thanks for the well detailed video 🤙🤙
Thank you for the great impressions!
The proxy Sensor is very interesting.
I can see one disadvantage with the flood light with less defined beam...when you are trying to see something far away the light pollution from the objects near you would obscure what you are trying to identify in the distance, essentially blinding your vision. Not so good when trying to identify something in the bush in the outdoors.
Gotta admit you truly do make me consider wanting an Olight more and more but I just can't get over proprietary hardware.
The magnetic charging is part of why it is best.
@@rsilvers129 yeah but the battery costs like 30$ if you want another one
Long time Olight fan here.
I just recently started trying other lights.
Skip the proprietary stuff. I have seen the light.
I'm fairly new to quality lights and your videos are very helpful - thanks
Glad they are listening to the community
Awesome review as always! You’re the best! I hope OLIGHT releases this new baton 3 pro max in the FIRE / Spring color. I’m not fond of the initial release colors. I’m In my mid 50s I prefer BRIGHT colors as it’s getting harder to see in low light, thus my new hobby collecting Olights 😂
I hope so too!
I just received the warrior 3 S for xmas and now I want this baton 3 pro max just for the reduced size
I have the Baton 3 pro and I use it on my hat as a headlamp sometimes. Do you think this new one would work as a hat light or is it too heavy? I like the new floody beam.
Good question. I’ve been able to use a Warrior 3S as a hat light at 153g, and this is 125g or so. So yes, it’s possible. But it’s also heavy-so not comfortable.
Did you say floodierness? I love it! I love Olight flashlights! I've got a baton II, and I'm getting ready to order the baton 3 pro max in just a minute. Thanks for the review.
I wish I could get used to lights with no tail switch. This one looks good.
Hmm, magnesium body and emitter swap to something warm or neutral. It would be great light! I love exotics materials. Magnesium is in my wish list now 😀
Great review! You sold me and I wasn’t planning on buying another Olight for a while.
Your videos are well articulated and easy to listen to.
I'd like to see what the Olight haters come up with to justify not liking this light. It's fantastic!
So far the comment section hasn’t had the usual sass. Guess Olight got it right this time! (At least in the haters’ minds)
Olight lacks candela and proper thermal regulation.
@@abigailsaoirsefinnegan This particular model does, it was designed that way🤦♂ And what exactly do you mean by "thermal regulation"? it steps down just like every other light, I'm not sure where you're coming from......
Let’s honest, 60 second turbo is useless. Almost 4hrs @800 lumens but less throw?
Nah, 3pro stays in pocket.
How would you choose between the Olight Baton 3 Pro Max or the Olight Mini?
I like the larger lights, just for runtimes and thermal mass to prevent step down.
Is the bezel easily removable on this one? Just watched your Warrior 3S emitter swap vid, and it has given me some hope for a swap on this one for a higher CRI swap, but that bezel doesnt look easily removable. I have ordered one in NW already thanks to your review here
That olight is incredible probably the best EDC one they ever made. Having a proximity sensor and sleep mode is really good!
I find the proximity sensor annoying. I disabled it on my warrior mini 2
@@squirts1 good thing you can, but i think it's nice that there is one
@@maggi98mw I guess, but I just haven't found a scenario in which it would be useful to me personally. It's just added complexity and cost IMO
@@squirts1 for one, peace of mind. No need to worry that the light will set your pants on fire if you carry it in the pockets, but the light is still ready instantly
@@maggi98mw yeah I don't see that as a useful feature personally. That's what lockout is for...
If you're not using the lockout the light can still come on and get hot.
It's a silly gimmick. Just like putting vibrator motors in flashlights is a silly gimmick.
My personal preference always are flood lights, Lol and as a huge olight critic, because of their LED choices and UI, just could never bring myself to purchasing one. but between this and the seeker three pro, I’m in, if you have any other suggestions for any of their other lights that are pure flood would be appreciated.👍🏽
I'm in between this one and the warrior mini 2 I like this one better because of the high lumens but it looks so bulky I can't imagine making it apart of my EDC it'll take me back to my maglite days. How this one on the jean pockets? I carry the I5t now and its great just looking to upgrade.
This is incredibly small for 21700 - much smaller than a Warrior 3S for example. I have no issue edcing it, but then I will occasionally pocket the Warrior 3S! So maybe I’m not the guy to ask.
But in practice I don’t find this any worse to pocket than a KR1.
One thing that should be noted, the W2M has a more focused beam. This one is more floody. I find this ideal for close up work, but the Warrior 2 mini would fair better outside.
Happy that Olight is giving LED options that are not 7000K.
I have the baton 3 in titanium with the holster that charges it. Super cool.
I'm done trying to get a reasonably small light that has both a good flood and a good throw in one. I already have a good long throw now I have a good flood with the max.
This is awesome! However I’d love to see a tail switch on it. Who knows, maybe we’ll see a warrior mini 3 pro max is in the future…
Great review. I was wondering about the beam pattern as the MAX has higher lumen output, but shorter throw than the Pro. In real life usage I don't need the focused beam at extreme distances since I can't see clearly that far anyway. I just wish the neutral white temp was available in other colors as I have too many black colored lights and they're harder to find in the dark.
Your reviews are thorough and detailed. Thanks for your commitment.
Man that is what a flashlight review should be like!!!!
Thanks!
Neighbor: Honey the flashlight guy is out there again.
Just FYI, the little gold tip on the end of the Open Mini works as a stylus for a touchpad, like your phone (I don't know if that's the intended design, but it works pretty reliably as one as long as it's perpendicular from the screen.
Good tip, it’s so flat I would have to believe it wasn’t intended.
They did it again!
Love the upgrades
The emitter choices are great, thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent review... I love my baton 3 pro max... keep up the great work
Guess I'll have to update my S2 BATON & S1 BATON EDC lights.
Just found your channel. Blown away. This is the EXACT video I’ve been hoping for as I’m torn between pro and pro max, mainly based on EDC size and form factor. Is the max worth the carry?
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Looks like we are entering a "smart flashlights age" with that motion sensor and proximity sensor. Do you think other big brands are going to adopt this kind of technology?
I think only a few. And it’s an example of a olight really trying to bring a better experience.
Looks great, I'm glad they're finally giving more emitter options
I’ll be ordering it in NW. It will be interesting to see how the beam compares against the seeker 3 pro.
Are you able to do an led swap on a baton 3 , I tried your website.
I’m uk based.
What a great review.
This may be the next torch I purchase plus looking for something with a great flood throw too....
Think your gonna need a vacation after all these reviews I’m just watching and it’s a lot great job busting out a lot of reviews for the giveaway and keeping them like you normally do!
Seriously, soooo tired.
Everything is on point here. I like the different temp and alloy offerings. One nit pick, would like a deep carry bezel down option. Thanks for a thorough review.
I have to agree. A reversible clip would be nice. I have found in my testing, though, that carrying it lens up wasn’t a deal breaker.
Love the reviews. Could you review the lights from the Led Lenser company someday?