Can Hornby Trains Haul a Real Passenger?
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2020
- Can model trains haul a real passenger? Can it be done? Yes. Should it be done? Of course not!
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"Don't mess around with power supplies."
Suggested: How to burn down your model railway...
haha - thought you'd like that! ;D
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That was really funny with that popped up XD
XD me tryed to do this with 20 locosanr kt worked
@@o_zkoyt7526 did you have a stroke whilst typing that?
The PC Dude nah im on my phone
“I’m now mounted on the wood. Yes, I’ve made the joke since you don’t have to.”
How did you read my thoughts Sam?! 😂😂
haha yes - I expected a few dirty minds to be watching ;)
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oh no xD
HE IS GOOOOOODDD
Use the 4 Newton train from the strongest train video
@@SamsTrains i dont get it?
Nobody:
Not one soul:
Sam’s trains: “I’ve got wood”
haha! ;D
Lol 😂🤣
Kieran McGovern maybe.. try... *I’VE GOT WOOD*
@@fireclips7399 Was that a "The Orville" reference?
2:12
“Good luck comrades” “your full sized over lords” I can’t 😂
haha!! xD
That thumbnail is rather special.
"I've got wood" - Sam's Trains 2020
technoandrew wow I still remember watching the bttf crash you did all those years ago and I loved it as a kid!
haha!! ;D
Me: Having OO/HO scale locomotives move a human? You got to be crazy!
Samstrains: Hold my tea!
haha absolutely! ;D
Wait...
YOU CAN USE THE BIG MODEL TRAINS!!!
THAT WOULD PULL A REAL PASSANGER
Fascinating. That was very creative. "Don't try this at home" lol!
Train Tsar Fun!!
haha thanks a lot mate - very sound advice! ;D
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Nooo absolutely try this at home!!!!! people dont listen to that tool get all your locos together and do it do it do it 🚂😀🚃🚃🚃🚃
I Heard from a world record where some model lokos pulled a real loko
@@SamsTrains hi Sam 😊☺️
Oh my word, that thumbnail. I'm dieing of laughter
haha glad you like it!! ;D
lol me too, ha
Only just looked at it properly and OMG IT'S GOLD! 😂😂
Sam'sTrains I do too
Great thumbnail lol, I nearly peed
2:34 Hand-Pulling Locomotive crashes while on his way back to the yard -1933 Colorized
haha!! ;D
Pen-y-darren derails, circa 1800.
Sam : Derails
The Egg Vans : My presence will forever derail you 😈
haha yeah - bet it was their fault ;)
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DINKELBURG
FLANDERS
CLARKSOOOONN!!
HAMMMOOOOOOND!
“How many trains are you gonna use?“
Sam: “yes”
haha! More than I thought! ;D
"The trolley" looks like what we use on the yard for carting around feed, although you can guarantee at least once someone has had a laugh riding about on it, great vid!
haha yeah that's exactly what it is - good fun! ;D
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"I feel like a crazy Santa Claus trying to conduct broken reindeer"
amazing line
02:35
95% of the model trains arent derailing......
But Sam derailt him self 😂❤️
haha!! ;D
..and so, at the end of the day Sam was very proud of his engines. "I'm very proud of you!" he said.
haha you're right! ;D
the 5 rows of engines
Sam nine months ago: You know what, I'm going to try to mimic old fashioned 3D videography.
Sam now:
haha yeah - my ideas have degraded somewhat! ;D
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9:19 now we know what cheese grater to use
haha!! ;D
I wasn’t expecting that! Loved the video
I might sit on my flying Scotsman and see if she can pull me 🤣
Thanks,
-Ollie
haha cheers Ollie - be sure to film it if you do! ;D
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Ollie's Branchline ye might,buy the real flying scotsman and you will fly like a real Scotsman 😆
Sam: "this is professional stuff"
Me: hmmmm🧐😂
haha - you may have spotted the irony there ;)
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That is an amazing experiment. Probably one of your best ones yet. Could be useful mobility for elderly model train enthusiasts.
Thanks very much Tomas - haha I agree!! ;D
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Hey Sam, the first one was an epic fail, the second time was perfect. I wonder what your gonna show us next in your next video, it could be a Thomas and Friends review or a train review or something completely different. You'll think of something that will spring to your mind. Hope to see what your next video will bring for the future. Kind regards, Paul.
haha thanks Paul - I'm yet to decide what's next - hopefully it'll be really interesting! ;D
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2:38 Sam derailment! 🤣
haha - that one hurt! ;D
2:34
A similar thing was done in Germany where around a 100+ Roco made DB locomotives pulled an actual DB engine.
haha really?! That's amazing! :D
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Brilliant vid again Sam I've been watching about a couple year now and somehow you still make the best videos about model trains
Thanks a lot mate, that's really kind of you! :D
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Oh Good Lord XD This is the Funniest thing EVER XD
haha thank you! ;D
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Omg the thumbnail 😂👌. And it works
haha! ;D
Fantastic video! I love the creativity of it. Love the mixture between normal content such as running sessions and reviews and then stuff like this, it's great can't wait for more!
Daniel :)
Thanks very much mate, really appreciate it! :D
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You're missing a third option for the "What do you think?" section: Are you insane? XD
haha - I guess that one goes without saying! ;D
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2:35 😂
Yeah that one hurt! ;D
Next vid: I made a oo gauge public narrow gauge railway
haha who knows?!? ;D
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The Miniature Wonderland in Germany hauled a DB class 146 locomotive with 100 model class 146 locomotives. Just amazing what these little tings are capable of.
Years ago there was a world record in Germany where model trains actually pulled a real train engine. czcams.com/video/GrVit1hGQwM/video.html
Ooh yes - I've seen that, very cool stuff! :D
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I love the way you have slippers on in the thumbnail! Awesome sam! :)
haha thank you - thought that'd be a nice touch ;)
Really nice video.
I’ve heard that in Germany there was an experiment where a lot of H0 locos of a certain class pulled a real sized locomotive of that class.
This is basically that experiment in small scale!
Thanks a lot mate - yes I've just watched that - it's epic! :D
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Hi Sam, I remember in the late 1950’s there was a Hornby Dublo advert showing a loco pulling a child on a trolley. But I can’t find any record of the advert or the picture. But I certainly remember it. I had tri ang locos at the time. Your demonstration brought back memories
Yes I've been told about that David - I'd love to see that too! :D
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Sam,
I love your videos. My grandfather was an Original Founding Partner of Aurora Plastics Corporation from 09 March 1950 until he retired in 1969-70. They made N gauge, by Trix, I enjoy your videos because I collect every Gauge. Keep up the great work.
Thank you,
Dr. G.
Thanks so much for sharing - that's really cool that your grandfather was so involved!
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Sam, I've actually dreamt of this! I almost got wood at the thought of it!! 😂😜
I'm glad you had success with it.
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
haha awesome - thanks very much!! :D
That thumbnail is realy funny and a great experiment !
(Edit) wow the video is also great i am laughing so hard
Thanks Kesse - glad you enjoyed it!! :D
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All the locos huffed and puffed. But try as they might, they could not pull the massive chair of the giant, Samuel. "Come on Thomas" they cried "Come and help". So Thomas hooked up to the front of the train and pulled with all his might. Huff Puff said the locos and gradually the giant began to move. "Yay for Thomas" they cried "You saved the day."
"And we now return to our regular programming..."
Fantastic video sam!!! I know you had literally days into planning and trials thanks for this successful feat of model trains
haha thanks very much mate - yes this one did take a while!! ;D
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11:46 school clas
Yeah! :D
Of all the videos I’d expect this wasn’t on the list 😂
haha I'm not surprised! ;D
The new way to travel by mini toy trains 😏😂
haha absolutely!! :D
Sam, you are crazy and that's why I love your experiment videos
haha thanks very much Jake! :D
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When i saw the notification, i was thinking what the heck is he on about, it seems you are insane too
haha, I guess that's fair to say! ;D
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2:34 The 2020 Sam derailment
The most devastating derailment to date
Thursday 12th of February 2020
Train:The Trolley
F to pay respects to the 0 harmed
haha absolutely! ;D
HI DALE :D ITS CHRIS YAS BROTHA
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I love the mad scientist aspect to this. It's hilarious, but you also touch on a lot of real world physics here. There's adhesion, rolling resistance, tractive effort, drawbar pull. Also a cause of motor burnouts; the locos vulnerable here were those that didn't wheelspin. To me that's a design fault. A model loco's adhesion should not exceed it's pulling power. Basically they make these locos too heavy nowadays.
I've never attempted something like this (sadly I'm just not quite crazy enough!) but I do get my trains hauling quite heavy payloads of stuff around the garden. It's real railfreight in OO Gauge, great fun!
haha thanks a lot mate - glad you enjoyed it, I guess there was quite a bit of that in there too! You're absolutely right about the adhesion vs pulling power!
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We did an experiment like this at school as part of Nuffield Science. We used an O gauge clockwork engine and a board resting on micro-beads. How railways work is they keep the friction to a minimum. In the experiment you have done, the friction produced by your own weight on the trolley wheels is very great in relation to the OO gauge locos which is why you needed so many of them. Microbeads have now been banned in the UK, so your only option is to make a hovercraft!
Oh wow that's very awesome - yes you're right about the friction - it was just for fun though ;)
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I love that thumbnail 😂😂😂
haha thanks Matty! :D
“MUSH!”
Mush!!
“MUSH!”
Mush too mush !!!!
Mush!!
Hornby Dublo did it years ago with one loco ( pulling a boy ),
Shows how good they were back in the day .
They also pulled along a lady with just four loco's.
How many did you need Sam?
Actually just checked; 8 stone lady hauled by 3 Hornby Dublo Deltic loco's at the 1961 trade fair !!
There was a Hornby Dublo demo where a single Ringfield powered diesel pulled about 16 kilos, 2 pulled 28 and 3 pulled 50 (figures converted from old money ), all on a specially built trolley presumably with much lower rolling resistance (loads were various sized human beings), reported in Model Railway News March 1961 !!!
Yes I've read about that Robin - very impressive stuff!! :D
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Love it!!!!
Well done sam, made my day!!
haha thank you, glad you enjoyed it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Me: I'm bored
Sam: I'm gonna try something crazy
Me: Lies
Me After: ……………. MAGIC
haha exactly!! :D
This is traction tires come into there own😂😂 interesting vid mate cooe it up loved it.
haha yeah! Though very few of these actually had tyres! :D
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I like the way he has wrote the name on the trolley. THE TROLLey. Yes Sam I thought you were trolling us.
haha!! ;D
4 views 21 likes hmmm
haha! Takes a while to catch up! ;D
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No problem
Haha, strangely fun to watch. Well done Sam, and on my birthday too. Made my day.
Thanks very much Ray, and hope you have a very happy birthday! :D
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Sam :)
I REALLY enjoyed this little trip that you took. As a 1/8th scale 'live steamer', I could easily relate to what you were up. The shame of it all it seems to me, is, that you don't have a bit longer track, for one. And, if you could put you trolley on the rails in some way, that would really cut back on the pulling resistance. Thanks for your interesting videos Sam.
Thanks so much Bruce, glad you enjoyed it! Yes pity I didn't have further to go, and there was too much friction there, you're right!
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What a unique and brilliant video, Sam. Glad it worked in the end! 🙂
haha thanks very much mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Definitely the best craziest video I ever watched today love it 😆
haha cheers Connor, really glad you liked it! :D
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0:43 Very nice coach. I love this coaches. I can' t believe have such strength that they will ever pull a man.
Thanks very much Robert - I like that wagon too! :D
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You know what they say, "Never Overlook A Little Engine"
I laughed so hard. XD this is awesome! I hope you change this up a little for April fool's day. This will be a great meme.
haha glad to hear that - I'll see what I can do! ;D
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"I've got wood"
-Sam's Trains 2020
haha! Thanks for that ;)
My house on a school day:
Mallard on the thumbnail:my mum
Sam on the thumbnail:me
haha - I remember feeling the same way ;)
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Never once have I got up in the morning and thought "you know what I'm going to sit on a trolley and see how many of my locomotives will be needed to pull me along". The mad scientist strikes again, funny and extremely amusing to watch. Can't wait for the next mad escapade ;).
haha - I've often thought that Rob, lol! Glad you found it amusing mate! :D
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Hi mate, great video. Just to you know, when you were testing to amount of newtons to move you on the trolley you were essentially using a pulley system as you had the string going out then coming back, this mean the amount of force required would be double what you measured.
Thanks so much - yes you're right about that - oops! ;D
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Triang did this many many years ago with two deltic models. This is brilliant! Please do more videos like this.
If I find the magazine in the loft shall I post it to you. I'm wondering what mods they did to make it work.
I've heard about that - I'd love to see the article! :D
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Actually it was Hornby Dublo demonstrating the power of the new Ringfield motor in the Deltic. Three loco's hauled a young woman weighing 8 Stone sitting on a trolley. I forget the weight of the trolley, which had flanged metal wheels running on metal rails.
Hornby Dublo in 1960 using 3 Deltic OO gauge locos powered by the Dublo Ringfield motor hauled a young girl Miss Glenna Ferdinando weighing 8 Stone on a trolley. Good to see a modern version 60 years later using a lot of locos and a much bigger and heavier person - very entertaining Sam.
So I hear - those old motors were incredibly powerful things - nothing like that these days sadly :(
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Him:ive taken out the relevant trains
Small trains: Are you sure about that
Sam: "We need to find out how much force is required to move me"
Force meter: "ALL the force!"
Sam one of your best videos. The amount of work was probably staggering. What's your day job? You seem reasonably competent about electronic engineering. Great job dude!
haha thanks so much mate! I do CZcams for a living now - I definitely wouldn't say I'm competent with electronics - I'd love to be though! :D
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Anything that a sane person wouldn't do with their model trains, Sam does. And it's great to watch.
haha absolutely right! ;D
I have been thinking about this experiment for many years never knowing if it is possible to move a person with model trains I feel I can finally rest my brain after watching this video good work Sam you get 5 stars from me! :)
haha awesome Andy - glad to hear this brings you some closure! ;D
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Sam'sTrains thanks for your reply Sam if you ever need any custom made model buildings let me know I have a lot of examples of my work on Instagram @ andrewwatson5446
That was utterly bonkers. I loved every second, Sam! :)
haha thanks very much Andrew! :D
That was crazy Sam, made me laugh the whole video. "Don't try this as home" lol again.
haha thanks a lot mate - definitely not!! ;D
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0:43 that just made me picture you sitting on a model railway wagon it looks so funny lol 😅😂🤣🤣😂😅
You're beginning to remind me of those do-it-yourself arts and crafts shows that were on TV when I was a kid.
haha is that a good or bad thing?! ;D
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2:23 me playing with my trains @ 2 in the morning on a school night
haha, that was pretty much me too! ;D
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Interesting & amusing video Sam, A lower coupling attachment to the trolley would have helped. I noticed that the strings lifted the rear locos off the track causing loss of traction. Cheers, David Barnes.
Thanks David yes you are right about that - it certainly wasn't ideal!
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"Crazy Santa Claus trying to conduct broken reindeer." Haha! I never get tired of your sense of humor, it really comes out in videos like these. Your wacky experiments are super entertaining, and they're getting more involved by the video! You actually did some serious measurements and calculations in this one! Gotta feel bad for those poor engines who got replaced though... Then again, gotta feel bad for the ones pulling *_The TROLLey!_* Hilarious, creative, and gripping video Sam, well done!
haha appreciated mate, glad it amused you!! ;D
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Your content is so great i love you mate!
Thanks so much - that's very kind of you! :D
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Omg! That was awesome! I sure wish I had those trains when I moved house using one of those TROLLeys!
haha yeah - I'm sure they would have been a great help ;)
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Getting well and truly jack of the adds Sam -have already missed quite a few when they come up. particularly When the second one starts.
Sorry about those - but those are how I make a living. The videos are free to watch, so that's your part of the exchange! No ads means no videos!
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I think the problem with the initial measurement (2:22) is that the pulling force is actually about 2x the tension on the string (it's a pulley system), so the reading on the meter must be doubled (2x6=12N to start).
From your measurements, 20 locos yields a total of 8.5N pulling power; in the successful run you used 30 locos, so that'll be around 12.75N, which is close to the required 12N.
Yes you're right, I got that one wrong - hence why it took almost double the number of engines! ;D
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Sam interesting video, I remember when Hornby first brought out the Ringfield motor there advertising showed a person BB ring hauled byba single Ringfield powered loco.
Your setup with the 4 rails hauling the trolly reminds me of the German WW2 "Gustav" railway gun.
Also, this entire experiment was very "James May". xD
haha is that so?! I guess that's a compliment! ;D
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Leave this job for live steam! If you don’t already know about it, I’d recommend searching IMLEC 2019 on CZcams. The International Model Locomotive Efficiency Competition is where the best builders put their live steam locomotives to the test! The results are impressive!
Great video as always Sam!
Oh wow that sounds cool Harry - thanks for that! :D
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Over two years later and this thumbnail is still absolutely legendary.
Wish I thought of that - brilliant Sam. Laurie.
haha cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it! :D
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One for sam's crazy trains ....love it.
haha thanks Paul! :D
Should have brought Speedy Pete along! This is anyone's childhood dream
Yeah! Pete would have done a much better job ;)
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lol that was the craziest experiment ever!!...hope no 5pole motors were damaged!
Very entertaining Sam. Great stuff. (Bet your electricity meter whizzed off the wall!) Many thanks.
Cheers Mike - haha it did indeed! ;D
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I like it. It has a sense of the ridiculous about it ! Surprised only 8 Newtons were needed - maybe if some of the weaker locos had some traction ballast as well ? Standard tension couplings Sam (or, upgraded ) ?
Thanks very much Dave - I was surprised too, not too bad! :D
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I'm pretty sure that Hornby Dublo advertised their Deltic loco with the ring field motor by having three of them pull an 8 1/2 stone lady on a trolley. It was some time in the 1960's
Yeah you're right - someone sent me a photo of the ad! :D
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Wow ! I like your over-the-top experiments ! This one is really nutz, I love it !
By the way, this cannot be done with someone like me (I'm 216 lb and you look to not being over 150 lb, that helps) unless you have 50 engines, or try this with O gauge.
What crazy thing can you do next time ? A shunting session with Dapol wagons ? Or something way more completely absurd ?
Anyway, that was fun to watch, keep on the good job !
haha cheers Oliver - yeah I'm sure it could be done - question is just how many engines?! :D
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This challenge is spectacular! I’d test my locos the same way but I haven’t the space.
I should probably test the pulling force of my E4 some day. It’s a heavy 7mm brass loco.
Also, have you ever tried to see how many locos can run in a multi-headed train? I didn’t know if that was possible or not.
haha I wouldn't really recommend it - I didn't enjoy stressing out the locos! With a power supply like this, I could run up to about 40 - the only issue would be derailments!
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It’s probably best not to cause a line of on-fire locos 😆👍
That is very interesting!
Emmet Brown: I FINALLY INVENTED SOMETHING THAT WORKS!!!
haha!! ;D