Best 18 inch Laptop - We Tested Them All
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- 🎉 Acer Predator Helios 18: bestbuy.7tiv.net/angxYN
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🎉 Acer Predator Helios 18: bestbuy.7tiv.net/angxYN
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Will you be reviewing the ASUS Vivobook S 14 OLED Laptop please?
It’s a great deal @ $899 considering it comes with intel ultra 9 185H + 16gb ram and 1TB ssd which is also upgradable 😊
Me watching this knowing I'll never even consider buying a computer this big
*expensive
@@hamzaaitabderrahmane3436 brokie
*big and expensive 😭
You can get a 17” Walmart asus for $1399
same
I honestly wish we could have a Lenovo Legion 18....I think they'd hit it out of the park
always been looking for a top-end laptop comparison video. Thank you for that!!
Great review! I like how you guys address the nuances.
Love this video format!
You get it man.. you get what a good laptop needs to be. Thanks for your videos!
It was great Josh thanks , esp. the last part of the video 👍
Owning an Alienware M18r1, the screen is not that bad. Sure, it's not going to work well outside in daylight, but playing BG3 at the moment, I have no issues seeing things when I'm indoors. The performance is great, and I'm only running the RTX4080 variant. There's a TON about this laptop that make it great! Price wise, it's much less than most of the others mentioned here, has more ports, is more upgradeable with 4 NVME slots (on the 4080 and 4090 variants), and the build quality is great! Everyone picks on Alienware (Dell), but I am extremely happy with my machine.
I never wanted such a beast but for people with less space or no desk having to move often... They sure provide value.
Man. That's not the fan noise in scar 18. It's the coil whine. Pretty famous for that 😬
Thats too bad for others, after a few months I have had zero coil whine.
Really cool Josh! Great that you have done here what I have not seen any other tech youtuber do yet. I have searched endlessly for a good comparison featuring all the 18 inchers to know which is the best one so that I know what to go with to be my on the go portable workstation! Thanks and cheers
The best reviewer out there. You spoke the truth, you found whats good and what not about these machines. Then you compared them with each other. And I can confirm your analysis. I have a Razer 17 and just bought the predator 18 4090. It's a mounstrocity but its all worth. It is bigger than the Blade 17 but its not huge to the point of being uncomfortable. The form factor is the same of the older 17 inch models, so it fits on an existing 17 inch sleeve. It aint that heavy an its a monster in performance - this is worth if you are an enthusiast / work-play VR games, Video editing, AI video, 3D rendering. I dont even play flat games on this, but VR, you will always need more and more
The fans of the predator have a low pitch sound which does not disturb, in turbo mode its madness, but its worth it when you gonna play that unoptimized vr game or create a baking in Unity. I did had a scar 17 some years ago, and it is true it has a very annoying high pitch, so much that I returned it. The Razers have that issue as well.
Could you weight the powerbricks? No video compared all of them. The Razer is so sexy and the Predator is the chunkiest.
Having an 18 inch screen does feel enormous. This is especially relevant when working with video, 3d and unity. You will see tons more menus an feel more comfortable overall. With the 17 inch Razer blade you felt you needed a bit more space when the project is getting heavy.
Damn quality of the videos is really good better then linus tech tips l, love u Josh and the team❤
Alienware's downfall needs to be studied
because they prioritize money over customer's feedback and same goes to razer. just buy asian brand laptops like msi, acer, asus and lenovo because they truly care both money and customer's feedback
I had one since 2015 and its thermal throttling made it borderline useless for gaming, its vents filled with dust in couple of months, it was heavier than a brick. On the plus side it still works fine for my parents. But i dont see when oo what their actual peak was. New Lenovo is a dream comparably
@@asdswift6715 Razer still makes often best laptops.
All they have to do is update the screens
Still rocking a M18x R2. Works great today. Upgraded the GPU and added NVME
Glad I came across this channel...great video bro! You gonna do a dedicated video for the acer helios 18?
this was brilliant. not my market at all but still useful and informative and slickly done
Josh Sir thank you for the informative video. May you be happy and healthy. 😊
Enjoyed this very much.
How are the internal temps on the Helios 18? Does it reach 90°c+ when gaming or during stress tests?
I don't need one right now but I love your videos guys, so I keep watching them. I really liked the format, so much data in such a short time, and including bits from other reviewers.
Thanks. We are certainly trying hard to be entertaining, educational, and fast
I had my eye on the Acer Helios 4090 and after watching your video I decided to pull the trigger! It will be delivered on Tuesday the 11th! I can't wait!
Love 18 inch laptops ❤ thanks for the video
Great content! Love it!
Thanks mate!
The laptop edit hit hard🔥🔥
Even though I'm not in the market for a gaming laptop I enjoy your reviews and comparisons, they're always honest and objective.
Josh Sir what are your views of HP's line of Gaming Laptops - Omen and Victus? The new ones, are they competitive or any good? The 16.1-inch ones, not the 14 inches Transcend. Do they impress you and would you recommend them? They have traditionally been more affordable compared to others.
Hey Josh , I know that's not related but can I have your opinion on the 14 inches Yoga 7i with Intel 1355U inside ? Would you recommend it for the average user who doesn't game ?
Now THIS is a great video
Thank you, mr.josh👌👌👍
I have been testing the Raider 18 from Costco which is $3000 for a 14900HX, QHD 240hz IPS display, 4080 mobile, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD along with a membrane keyboard and normal clickpad. The heatsink with heatpipes instead of a vapor chamber still does a good job and while the chassis is not as nice as the Titan, I like it more than the other options and the price is much more reasonable than the Titan.
its so strange that the display options on the dell are so poor, esp. when we know there are many many options available
I feel that they're trying to push creators or those who want a better screen towards the Dell XPS lineup... Which is a completely different class of laptop and also awful in general.
Dell needs to go back to the drawing board and learn why Apple stopped doing all of the crap Dell is now doing.
@@cameronbosch1213 I hate it when brands do this. If a company is going to sabotage a product I want to push me towards another product they sell, why wouldn't I just buy from a different brand?
That intro shocked me from this channel. Not in any negative way; it's just not something you guys typically do. I gotta say it was pretty awesome.
I'm very glad you like it. We want to make videos that are not only educational but are entertaining
Which ones work with a major modern Linux distro? Would love a video on this. Thanks!
Man those are some monsters
I could not have clicked to watch this video faster! I've been trying to compare them online. I'm not sure if I'll get one. I really wish one had an OLED display. And all laptops of this size should have amazing speakers. Anyways, thank you for gathering this info, I really appreciate your reviews.
I hope the video delivered
Love the video, very fun
Please Double check your blade 18 Keyboard temps Thanks.
My Alienware m18 r1 , 13900hx , rtx 4090 , qhd 165hz , 1 tb ss, 32gb ddr5 --- best laptop for my 😊
Out of the driver issues mentioned at the end, one stuck out to me: the display not waking up from sleep. I am convinced this is a Windows issue, as I have this exact same issue with my Dell XPS 15 9530 base model (Intel Arc, not Nvidia graphics)
great video bro!
i know this is unrelated, but you guys seem to only respond to the first comments, so…
i wanted to ask how similar is the build quality of the spectre x360 14 compared to a macbook pro?
If MacBook is a 10 out of 10, New Spectre is probbaly a 9. So it's close but not quite there
@@JustJoshTech I’m definitely buying it than, thank you for the response!
@IlyasSahnoun I haven't re checked the trackpad palm rejection though. That was a tad annoying. That's it's only downside but its not the end of the world. When you buy make sure to use one of our links if you can, it helps support the channel
@@JustJoshTech I'll use your links, i never type with my hand on the trackpad tho so palm rejection isn't a concern at all to me.
We need an 18 inch non-gaming look laptop that has good battery life, excellent keyboard, outstanding haptic trackpad, and an amazing display. Besides the razor and doesn’t break the bank.
What about the temp / thermals ?
When is the lenovo slim 7 review coming out?
Started using it yesterday, need a week or so
The problem with the display and mux switch is windows HDR mode. Turn it off with windows key+alt+b and the screen turns back on, no need to restart.
Hi Josh, I bought a Legion 7i Gen 9 last month, after 20 days of use, it started to give me black screen every time I booted up any game, whether on steam, battlenet, unreal, it black screened when the laptop was on charge but it didn't when it was off charge, this happened before and after I updated EVERYTHING, deleted and redownloaded EVERYTHING. Now that you mentioned you have issues with yours, I am glad I'm not the only one, I ended up returning the Legion and now I am in a void of not knowing what to do, that was a top choice of mine but if its faulty like this when I buy it again it will be super frustrating, what would you recommend?
There is a big issue going around right now like this. Did you run in Optimus or direct to GPU. For us it only happens direct to gpu
@@JustJoshTech I think I ran on Optimus, I didn’t change the option of “Optimus” or “GPU only” and just used it how it was directly out of the box and how Nvidia was downloaded, I contacted technical team, they didn’t help, and since I was coming to my last few days of the 30 day return I didn’t want to take risks of keeping a faulty laptop, I hope we get an update on this or something
These seems like Pro gamer laptops for those that travel to tournaments. The costs are insanely high, and you can get better value with a self-made gaming desktop.
I am a proud owner of a ALIENWARE M18 R1 (all AMD). I got it for a very discounted price so not going to complain much about it...
The screen indeed is not the brightness, but feels very responsive. Has amazing colors, depth and "HDR like" image which I am not even sure how they achieved. Probably has high native contrast. I have had many gaming laptops and this screen feels the best to use. (this includes 16 inch Macbook Pro M1) I have had a Legion 7 with much brighter display, but that wasn't as pleasant as the Alienware. Colors also felt too blue. Also with the 18 inch size I don't really feel a need for an external monitor any more. It also runs pretty quiet on balanced/performance mode and just runs every game smooth and beautiful. For me, the only downside is that the Alienware is very heavy and probably the biggest M18 laptop on the market today, although mine has a small 330W charger. But I am happy for the winner. I originally wanted to buy the Helios too anyways... :)
man we need some 18 or 19 inch thin and lights. The lg gram 17 is awsome
I have had nothing but problems with Asus. Went with the AW M18R2 and haven't looked back. No Regrets.
Thanks for sharing. I'm glad it worked out!
this is such a necessary video
MSI titan has gsync or AvOp? not great for a review video.
Is the Asus' MIniLED better than the Acer's?
I never regret owning the Scar, it’s my 4th ASUS laptop
Hi there! Why did you choose 2023 razer blade instead of 2024 model? You could have mentioned this in video!
We did not choose the 2023 model over the 2024. It was simply not released when we made the video. I believe it came out the week we launched it. Thoroughly using and testing 5 laptops takes a very long time.
When we did find out about it though, In the edit we made sure to call out the main differences to the 2024 model like the Thunderbolt 5 port and screen options. But after speaking with Jarrod's Tech who had the 2024 model, we decided to proceed to launch the video. The reason being... nothing about our conclusions would have changed. If they would have, we would have of course pulled the video.
I was just about to get rid of my dungeon but now......
M18R2 here. Could the screen be brighter? Sure, but saying you need to be in a dungeon to make it usable is a little extreme, it's not THAT bad. That being said, they do need to upgrade the screens...they are falling behind in that area quite badly.
Yes that is fair. But I definitely feel the screen is a major part of the laptop, and we haven't seen screens that dim since we did our Best Laptop for $200 video. I'm not joking. It's the dimmest of 70 laptops we have (other than the
Love your content❤
But I have to ask you why don't you test for performance on and off the battery?
Other than prolonged usage in watching movies, why not consider running benchmarks and record the remaining battery life?
I think this is a real use case measure. 1 round of gaming or other intense load, then the rest is for casual use on a single charge.
That is one of the 3 battery tests we do. Perhaps we didn't show the results in this video, but we do in most individual laptop reviews. Btw in the future, all our graphs will be added to our website. So that you can see these results yourself
I have the budget for the Blade but I also like the Scar.
I'd personally get the Scar unless you are really okay with the Blades keyboard
I got the predator Helios 18 love it
Mine is on it's way.
How can a laptop be powerful without fantastic heat removal?
Loved the Jarrod's Tech spot! Great video too! :)
For seniors, I love this big 18-inch screen. 😄
ok but which one will run runescape no lag
300 nits aint bad
Imagine spending that much on a laptop which has these issues...disappointing, such issues are acceptable for budget devices that cost below $800..great video btw, personally I'll never buy a laptop for gaming which knowing that i could get better performance and customization with a desktop, yet i enjoy watching your videos ❤
While I agree with the issues, if you compare it to a desktop then you weren't the target demographic for these laptops anyways. They're targetted at people that need to be mobile. If you're just sitting here going home every day and never traveling then yeah a laptop objectively doesn't make sense to purchase.
@crshoveride I've never owned a desktop pc, and always used laptops, and i do prefer them over desktops for portability, but gaming laptops are a joke, they aren't really portable, because once you unplug the power it'll last for barely an hour or two which isn't good for gaming or any other task, so here we just have heavy, super expensive devices which aren't really portable due to the large size and will die quickly if used unplugged, but i really didn't appreciate the fact that these cost way too much but still had major flaws. That being said, when he was talking about each of them, i thought they were absolutely amazing and beautiful devices..finally, I'm too broke to even touch them inside stores lol
The raider 18 and stealth 18 were missing😢
is the legion 9i a 17 inch gaming laptop? cuz idk see it here
It's 16inch. So not here
Only spec that matters: Noise.
I'm not sorry and i will never not mention this; a small right shift key on an 18 inch laptop is unacceptable. A small right shift key is the one thing on a keyboard i could never get used to. I suppose if it's your only device you can, but most of us are using other devices, especially at work.
Hey, Josh
Love your content. Very helpful.
I can currently get a demo unit (excellent condition) of the LG gram 16, 2 in 1 , i5 1340p /16/512 for $1222aud/$807usd.
Should I snap it up? I want a PC for light photo editing and general use.
Cheers
Anyone else can chime in. Thanks in advance for any help.
I personally hate that laptop. But in Aus prices are ludicrous. So it sounds like a good deal
18 inch laptops? They exist?!
When are you gonna do a vid on the zenbook duo 2024
It's not on the list for May so far, but I'm hiring another reviewer for light use laptops. That should help speed us up
@JustJoshTech good to hear, man. im really looking forward to it since your reviews are the most reliable.
Can anyone please tell me if Lenovo Legion 7i , i7 11800H; 32GB, 1TB, GeForce RTX 3080 16GB(vram I assume), is good?
I am a noob and am currently searching for my first gaming laptop. (Note: it's used, but still good, apparently)
Josh, I love your videos, but I didn't like the loud, harsh intro sequence. Yes, these laptops are targeted at a certain segment of the market. It shouldn't matter. Please keep your reviews honest, genuine, and graceful, which has always been what you're about.
Are you here for the laptop reviews, or are you here for audio engineering and filmmaking? Because you’ve lost the plot if you are here whining about the "¡LoUd!" intro.
It’s no way to please everyone. Razer laptops are known for thin and portable, while still getting the full TDP. Does that means there isn’t sacrifices to be made? Absolutely, even at that price. Is it the best laptop at cooling or do you get the best Keyboard ? No, this is why you make your selections depending on your preference. Asus, Acer, MSI & Dell have other options, but again, there is no perfect laptop that checks all the boxes.
Thin and portable is not a term I would use for any 18 inch laptop
so basically ASUS scar 18 is better in thermals,best performance on battery,brightest display,best battery, 2nd best performance on Timespy & cinebench slightly behind 1st. sounds like a WINNER to me 😉
Yeah, honestly the Scar and Predator were insanely close. We could have gone either way
Just an FYI, I have a Scar 18 with a 4080 and running it with a good Coolermaster laptop cooler. GPU temp maxes out at 80 degrees C and fan noise is 45dB. GPU is overlocked by 200Mhz on Core 1000Mhz on memory. Runs like a dream and quite silent. I personally think the slightly lower spec laptop 4080 cards run very well in an 18 inch configuration. My TimeSpy GPU score is 19899 with these settings.
Wait this is las years Razer blade 18?
No this is the new one
That's ton of work
I have the Acer 18 🙌
About the heat issue. The 4090 is more power sufficient and runs cooler than the 4080, so in this particular case you are a bit off the mark. Cool and battery life is actually a selling pint for the 4090.
18 inches!!
Genuinely asking, what’s the use case for such large laptops?
Hi James. I talked about it in the video. Funnily enough, I personally am a good example of a use case for these
True, I guess I view laptops as mobile desktop replacements that you can easily carry around in a backpack or something and 18 inches doesn’t seem very mobile.
However, People have different needs and requirements
Very informative video but you did not test Linux compatibility/performance for any of these laptops
Right now we only do Linux testing for laptops that we feel are ideal for programmers. As we grow as a channel we will add more test cases. Hopefully sometime soon!
Review was excellent it was as if the reviewer was the professor in a classroom and the products were the student projects.
Thanks!
Best 2 in 1 laptop with best price and performance ratio
as someone who owns a helios 16 I would never imagine the helios 18 coming in top
good video as always josh and team
What do you not like about it?
@@JustJoshTechbecause it's total trash, I don't understand how you decided on 1st place for it, very cheap plastic body that will fall apart in 3 years, awful hardware layout inside, barely usable software, very high pitched fan noise, sleep mode issues, crappy speakers ... it's just a junk
Asus rog is the best laptop as the only laptop with switch to shift from local zone to single zone backlighting in mini LED panel.
Will be buying the Predator 18 for home use only.
Have a Predator 17 that is a few years old, has never missed a beat, runs quiet for work and has a super comfy keyboard and mouse.
Big screens are great - just a fact.
Excellent review, Josh.
Which one had the overall best build quality? Premium and durable
I'd be willing to bet on the Razer for the best build quality.
Where is the Lenovo Legion? Tho
Its not an 18inch laptop. It's a 16!
@@JustJoshTech yes i forgot 🙏silly me 😇. But lenovo are great gaming laptop sadly they still doesn’t have 18inch. Hopefully tho they will make 18+.
Razer blade 18 2024 is number 1, can’t believe you would place the cheap plastic scar or terrible Titan 18 with no gsync above it.
If you can handle the keyboard its a very good laptop. All but 1 of the people I know who've used it find it the worst laptop keyboard going around right now.
I will buy a 18 inch laptop this year and this video come at the perfect time!! Thanks Also after viewing a lot of reviews i cannot agree with acer, c'mon acer is very bad in a lot of things if you test everithing.. easily 5 or 4 place for Acer!!
I bought an 18 inch helios a few months back so this review made me rather pleased! 😁
Too bad Acer offers the miniLED option only on select markets. Others can only get a regular IPS screen on those units. It also tops at RTX4080 in most markets. And going with anything below means a downgraded cooling (only RTX4080, with miniLED option, and higher get the better cooling solution), going lower in the stack it's offered with simpler heatpipe arrangements, previous gen fan design, and a weaker 165Hz 1200p screen. Sure, even on the lowest SKU it seems, you still get the RGB on the keys, palmrest logo, and rear/back side for those that care about light effects more than performance or functionality of the device...
Same for ROG, where in most markets only the top tier RTX4090 models get adorned with miniLED back-light screen technology. Most in the stack use the tried and tested IPS units.
Still, most of those laptops lack a proper premium tier webcam experience. Each manufacturer has the ultrabook line-ups sporting multi-MP webcam with IR/Windows Hello, often with fingerprint scanner even on the very cramped designs. And these top of the line biggest models? Only maybe good enough with FHD resolution. Why? Why is there no proper/bigger sensor? It's not like they lack the space on the models body.
In the same vain, why not have multiple security options? Lidar, IR for face unlock, proper fingerprint sensor, maybe NFC reader and a companion app for the smartphone, or a security card/id card reader... there's enough space in the volume to accommodate all of these.
The speakers in those big chassis should also have sounded better. Even if you target headphones using clientèle. Cause if so, then maybe they should've put a proper/better DAC with an AMP inside the chassis to drive better sound over headphones. Otherwise, they should have used the volume to actually boost the overall audio experience.
As mentioned in the video, these really should've come with a full-size card reader. You can use adapters to put a microSD inside such a reader, but not vice versa...
Also having just 2 As and 2 Cs, RJ45 and HDMI on a chassis this big should be considered a drawback. Lenovo's 16-inch Legions manage to cramp more connectivity, so Asus is almost too lazy/limited given the hardware and chassis constraints on the top of the line Scar 18 and G18.
Speaking of which, since in many regions G18 gets exactly the same cooling options as the lower tier Scars, you should've taken them into account in this comparison as well. Heck, Acer's Helios line-ups were typically targeting the same clients as Asus G line-ups. Where Asus deployed Scars, Acer had Tritons... We still haven't seen an 18-inch Triton, so I guess taking those Acer 18-inch models is good, provided we match them with their natural competitors as well.
Along the same lines, MSI has the Raider 18 as the slightly cheaper variation on the Titan chassis and components... You missed it in this comparison.
Both of those MSI lines share the RAM capacities, which is double that of the rest of this stack. That might be important for some. But it also means/meant RAM limited frequency, even with the same capacity/modules as on the rest of the pack...
You know how any manufacturer could've used the palmrest and keyboard deck space if they wanted to improve it all a bit? Asus once, quite recently, did the S17 with a raised/angled keyboard part. That would've opened areas for cooling, separate keyboard keys from the boiling heat underneath, and prep the deck for usage. Maybe this needs to come back?
Furthermore, if Titan's touchpad is such a gimmick while similar approach in XPS 13 is deemed good, why not add a touchpad across the whole deck, akin to Asus dual screen designs, only with a touchpad instead of a screen and moved down below the keyboard... want extra functionality? Add a row of simple LEDs below and above such full-width touchpad, allow users to decide the location and size/actual width of active touch input registering area and mark it using 4 corners limits with those LEDs. Want an alternative? Use an E-ink screen and draw which area is unblocked. It could still be back-lit, and it could allow a pretty big surface for touch interaction and still allow one to limit/disable most problematic areas when needed.
Alternatively, maybe they need to experiment a bit more with the colour tablet sized touchpad to the side of the keyboard... the space could certainly help with such an arrangement, with a touchpad/tablet or a secondary screen to the side.
Finally, maybe some manufacturers could spare a few cubic centimetres for an SFP/SFP+/SFP28 cage inside for up to 10GbE-25GbE of cabled network. Or just plain old BaseT 10GbE port to differentiate itself and potentially better integrate with the higher speed networks potential customers may have.
Heck, maybe one or two companies could even integrate the almost forgotten nowadays optical disc readers/writers.
Or use the volume to accommodate enterprise formats such as E1.S or U.2 for storage purposes.
Maybe we'll even get a 19- or 20-inch successor for those 18-inch desktop replacement laptops, successors to the big ones from "yesteryear" that sported 20+-inch curved designs that costed a fortune compared to regular top gaming/workstation laptops of their time.
What are their weights?
The graph of their weights is in the video!
@@JustJoshTech At which time?
Its in the Alienware section when I talk about it's weight
@@JustJoshTech2:02 I blinked and missed it.
Blade 18 is 17k out of the 20k😅
Hi josh
Still no one make a review on the msi creator 16.
If you consider making a one soon, I would appreciate that
We will probably get one in, but i'm going to be transparent here. It is not a priority for us right now. I will reach out to MSI to let them know, maybe they want to do another sponsored video on it
I feel Alienware are taking the BOM savings with poor screens because they know that for the vast majority of the time their laptops are used as desktop replacements, hooked up to expensive high end monitors.
Its quite misleading comparison, I think Titan 18 is well build, beautiful and a power house.
Im looking into an 18 inch laptop for AI development purposes. Would the titan be the best one ?