THE FINAL BUILD - Let's Go Racing Season 2, Episode 6
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2022
- After five episodes dedicated to testing parts from multiple brands focusing on brakes, wheels, suspension, and cockpit components, Brian Cahal runs through the final bike setup he will take racing this year. With no component sponsors this season, Brian is in a unique position as a professional rider to test and evaluate critical parts he will put on his Forbidden Dreadnaught for the EWS race season. With his complete package finalized, it's time to officially Go Racing! Enjoy!
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First of all, thank you for sharing all your insights. Even though your goal was focusing on racing, you hit the nail with your videos and this might be a platform you can build up on.
All the best for Trans Madeira, which is the right spot to just ride your bike and have fun.
Thanks buddy! Definitely want to keep leaning into the video stuff and create more rad content for you guys.
Sounds like you have a good perspective after the injury. I wasn’t even really interested in the eventual racing aspect of this series, just the bike setup and testing. Loved the unbiased (non sponsored) opinions on all of the different parts and just hearing what you actually liked the most
I learned more than from all bike reviews that I readed. Very honest and natural. Good job.
I'm 6'2" it's really nice to hear perspective from a taller rider.
Dang, heal up bro. Thanks for talking through your bike.
Great job as always Brian! Much much better than some of the so called expert "product reviewers".
Somebody hire this man and pay him good money!!
One of best mtb riding science videos on the internet. T H A N K You!
Mega series and hope you recover fully
Really appreciate the detail you've gone into throughout this series Brian. The unbiased opinion on parts selection is very refreshing.
Sorry to hear about the concussion and hopefully you can get back to full health and have a good start to next season.
Also if you can go into detail of what you replace, service, how you go about it and what settings you run for certain conditions while racing that would be something to continue the series with (sus/tyre pressures, checking spoke tension etc).
Maybe even nutrition.
Cheers again 👍
Thanks for feedback! I like that idea, I’ll try to cover it in another video.
Such a good video! The description of the longer chainstay, front center to rear center ratio answered some questions about my own bikes as well as the different riding positions between them. Great job Brian.
One of my favorite series. Thanks to all involved and I hope you continue to improve with your symptoms.
Thanks!
I really need a new bike and this videos might have pushed it to the top of that list. Great job with being so thorough and informing of why you made the choices you did.
Long bike chat videos are my favourite thing on CZcams. Great vid.
I am more impressed with the wheel choice on the truck 👍
I would easily pay 30 bucks for this info, thanks a lot 🙏🏼🍻
I just got a wheelset with the Onyx hubs in, quiet hubs are awesome but you hear every other noise your bike makes.
Also, wanted to say this series is so good, keep up the good work.
Just thought I would mention that the sam hill bar has a forward offset in the rise dimension. If you run it so the rise is vertical or slightly backwards like usual the bar will have very little upsweep. For some reason this is a largely unknown fact among sam Hill bar owners.
Ill echo whaT others have said about how awesomely candid you were. The whole tech talk was amazing and EXACTLY the things i wanna hear about. Props to your mental fortitude as well. Whatever you decide to do, I feel that the tthings you desire to have will come thru to you. Cant wait for your next video bro!
Recovering from a concussion about 3 weeks since myself. I was watch the video for the great info about the chainstay length, and then when you got to your crash I was like damn. Real stuff.
Damn… sorry to hear about your concussion. Wishing you heal up fully. Really appreciate all your efforts on putting this series together! I have learned a lot!
I have the hydra hubs. You’re right, they started to annoy me. I keep them greased now
Great series. Heal up and enjoy for awhile. Racing has such pressure with all the effort and expectations of progress. Thx for the great content
Great video series. Regarding cs lenght I find when moving body weight forward the longer cs lenght doesn’t up weight the back end as much as a short can bike. So it’s more stable that way, the weight distribution change is more subtle so easier to manage 👍
Agree your call lengths for a size m, 440 max mine is 445 :(
Sounds like your recovery has been tough, you’ll love Madeira it’s not exhaustingly steep and it’s a beautiful place.👍
I agree with the longer chainstays. I have a pretty basic giant reign 2019, it was reviewed at the time as a barge, and a plow. That's why I like it, it's super predictable and can go fast with no twitchyness at bike parks.
good stuff!
Hi Brian, superb series! Thank you for taking so much time out to present your experiences, it’s a pretty unique insight. Can you speak to the performance of the frame kinematics under heavy braking? Is it still active or does the bike squat down into its travel and stiffen up some? Thanks!
That final build looks beautiful 🤘
Sweet bike. I haven't really ridden a high pivot bike (at least not since some of the early suspension bikes of the early 90's), but I am more inclined to give one a try now.
I also run the AXS/Shimano combo and agree it works really well. For cranks, I'm running Cane Creek eeWings.
I also run Maxxis DH casing tires, and now that you mention it, I agree about how they make the bike feel.
Following Anneke Beerten's concussion journey has been eye opening. Although her injury wasn't bike related, she has been really open about how difficult and frustrating the recovery has been. Apparently, Tawnee Seagrave has been going through a similar recovery, but it was good to see her in a recent Les Gets World Champs video.
It's been a fun series to watch. I look forward to whatever comes next!
Thank you!
I wasn't having any issues but I just put my my chainstay in the longer position because what you said about front wheel weight seemed really insightful, also you mentioned testing so what the hell. Cheers good series
Go onyx man
Especially if you don't enjoy the sound
It allows you to concentrate on the wheel and wheel only no having to change thought patterns thru sound of the hub taking your attention.
Series is great, keep it up!! Something you could probably do w/ all your test footage you already have, how do you choose a practice track and what you're doing with each run. How do you go about optimizing each variable in general. You touched on it a few times in the individual videos, but a comprehensive 'here's how I test stuff and how you can too' video would be excellent. Good luck on the head stuff! I'm rooting for ya
Great idea! Appreciate the feedback, I’ll try and work that in before the end of the series
It's all about having fun! Keep it up
Also really cool to hear you thoughts on chainstay length. Thinking I'll use that flipchip after all
Great video/work/reviews ,... i realy enjoy watching this series keep it up, heal up asap!!!
Such a bumper about the concussion. I got one back in November last year and really only starting to feel back to normal now after around 9 months. Been a tough one but it gets better eventually
I’m a fan of AXS everything but have the same issue with the seat rail clamp. My seat always slides all the way back in the clamp. I thought it was slightly undersized seat rails or being on a shorter reach bike. Interesting to hear you mention that.
teaching more about forbbiden bike good point
Great info and insight. Going to try an xt cassette with axs next. Thanks for sharing
Bummer about the concussion but it sounds like you are getting better so hears to that! I have the same drivetrain set up with SRAM AXS and Shimano everything else and it is spectacular. Also agree the AXS post is super quick and takes much less effort to actuate. I use my dropper constantly while riding now.
Bro you are a godsend for me. My commencal meta TR size large has a 435mm CS. I struggled so much on body positioning. I ride my dad’s Rocky MTN ALT XL size 445 CS what a different ride easier and right away got along with the bike
Bummer about the concussions. Been there. Look into vision therapy. I’ve found it most beneficial. Sadly though, time is the only cure. Hang in there.
Aing suka men 🤘🏻🔥🤩
Sweet! I have my Druid setup similarly with Shramano AXS. The one extra bit I have is a Vorsprung Secus on my Fox 36. Also have a CC link. Thing rails through corners so nice and just sticks to the ground when I want it too. Still loving it after two years.
Does it work well? Is it hard to set it up to shift right due to the different cassette spacing?
Nice insight. I wonder how the riders from Santa Cruz syndicate makes the fox suspension work for them and WIN.
How does it pump? We have some rooty natural trails with a few flatter sections where you cant really pedal but have to pump the backsides of rollers and roots to keep going. I test rode a Kavenz VHP and I would just always loose my speed on those sections.
Concussions can be scary. I had one last year where I had bad eye sight for over two weeks afterwards, that sort of stuff really makes you worried. So watch after yourself and take the time it takes to get well.
I was surprised how well it pumped. Suspension has a lot of support, I still find I can pump through rock gardens and even get around pump tracks fairly decently.
One of the best of the best, of the best video so far, ton of information, been watched couple of times, trying to learn from the details. Well done, and thanks a lot for share those information with us.Just wondering what's your bar height and what's your experience on drilling the right height with all the mysteries of cockpit set up? Cheers!
Sorry to hear about the head injury. I had a bad one in 2020 that took me 5-6 months to feel mostly normal again.
Worst part was I wasn’t even riding at the time (actually I was getting ready for a ride when it happened). I just got light headed while brushing my teeth and smacked the back of my head on the bathroom floor.
Legend.
Brian, how does this bike compare to the Pivot DH bike you rode last year? Great series. Hope you are back to racing speed soon!
Best way I can describe it is the pivot feels like a trail bike stuck in a downhill bikes body and the forbidden feels like a downhill bike stuck in a trail bikes body. They feel way different
+1 for aluminium cranks. I’ve snapped both sets of the carbon ones I’ve had.
Totally get the concussion “funk” you mentioned. I’ve had 4 myself and the 2nd gave me symptoms for 6-8 months after. I think what doctors don’t understand is they don’t know your head as well as you do so in the end just trust yourself. I think stressing over the doctors predictions for how long symptoms were “supposed to last” being wrong made my symptoms last longer.
I agree. chased different opinions and specialists at first but then you realize nobody really knows haha.
👌great tuition👍can i ask what bar an stem size and rises to to totally dial in your ride🤔
Let’s go
This series has been so good to watch, very very educational and overall awesome to follow you go through the testing and stuff. Get well soon!
Did have one question, for flat pedal shoes, which ones do you run/like best?
Right now I’m running five ten impact pros or Sam hills. Depends on how many rocks I think I’ll be kicking
DH casing is 2x 60 tpi layers, not just one. EXO and (new) EXO+ are single-ply 60 tpi.
Soft (loop) side Velcro might help the cascade bash guard noise if anybody is otherwise interested in that.
Do you have tire inserts with the DH casing?
Hey bud same bike, and almost all the same philosophies on setup. (I also happened to develop that rear wheel.) I would only add: just switch to Saint or Zee crank and skip the ultra hollow bubblegum!
Nice! Thanks wheel has been holding up sick. Yeah miss my saint cranks. Went from aluminum descendants to saints on one of my old downhill bikes and completely changed how the bike felt, so solid.
I'm thinking of building a Druid but have heard the high pivot makes the bike less playful as the chainstay length increases as you compress through the suspension travel. Do you think that's a problem with this bike, or once you got used to it its just as poppy/playful as others? Other than the comments on the bike being less playful it looks like an amazing trail bike that I can also bring to bike parks. I also run flats so what you mentioned about the pedal kickback sounds great.
I think the Druid is plenty playful, And really depends on how you set the bike up. I’ve got my dreadnought set up as a race bike so priorities are different. Hopped on my Druid with an air shock and was laughing at how much pop and energy it carried through the trail. Also you’ll be surprised what you can get away with on that bike, forget it has 130mm of travel sometimes.
@@briancahal great input, thanks!
What other frames were you considering?
Rocky Mountain, propain, transition, Kona. All have longer chainstays
Own a Ghost Riot for the same reason. Loving the vertical rear path, than the growing one.
Do you have a problem with long rear end bucking?
No I think it jumps really good and haven’t had an issue with bucking
Have you tried oneup pedals?
I haven’t
SICK! How many times do you think he said “chain stay”? He’s so sick
how do you learn to be so stylish when biking? like whips and manuals. i can do bigger jump trails well like dirt merchant but can't style like you (i also have a dreadnought)
You're either stylish or you're not.
@@markwells8798 That's true, and also bullshit, anybody can learn to be stylish with enough practice.
Just gotta keep riding and playing with different feelings on the bike. Start small and the movements will grow as you make sense of them and get more confident.
Hey! What about brakes? Thanks :)
Trp dhr evo. You can check out the brake shootout I did earlier in the series
Can we review mullet ... haircuts as well ? I think I'm against them
Cushcore front and rear?
No inserts for me. Check the wheel episode where I go into more detail but I don’t think they are worth the weight penalty with the wheels I’m running
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Let's go Brandon 👍
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