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- The town of Ebbw Vale in south Wales has benefitted from hundreds of millions of euros in EU development money in the decades since its steelworks closed, but despite this it voted heavily in favour of Brexit. With the UK's Brexit transition period due to end on December 31, regions like this hope that British government funds will replace the European money. Since 2014, the UK has received 10.6 billion euros in EU Structural Funds.
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They are blaming eu for the way their local authorities used the money? How is that not moronic?
This is what we're up against...
@@Nickbaldeagle02 exactly people like you that can't and won't accept reality, the EU only give back money you put in the EU doesn't make money it only receives money from the member states take it that point passed you by and had a big say in who it was spent in them countries,but your blind the what the EU is, centralised state control their basically recreating a socialist federal state..
@@realitycheckreally8412 you're blind to the difference between your and you're and their and they're. If you can't understand basic grammar how can you possibly be expected to understand international relations?
I'm dismissing you out of hand. Don't bother replying, I won't read it.
@@Nickbaldeagle02 bet you will ....
@@realitycheckreally8412 the point is that the UK government, and others, wonât invest in the same areas. The EU, believe it or not, is very socially focused. That is why many on the right wing donât like it, tax and spend on a much larger scale being a complete anathema to many, the sad thing is they, you, have duped those who might benefit most.
These people are unbelievable. Blaming the EU for a project that was âwaste of moneyâ. The EU doesnât write your projects for you, local councils and similar bodies do. Should have asked them to come up with something better. Or if no funding was granted for the project that was proposed, would it have made locals any happier? Facepalm
THe EU help fund a new railway line for passengers to link the town to Cardiff and work. They funded a training college to learn skills. If the people have anything about them they will learn skils and travel to the workplace. A nice Dragon and some sparling new bridges to help people get out and about. Free health service throw in. Nothing to complain about really . Unemploymnt was 4% before the virus.
@John James it is absolute insanity!!
Totally agree mate. Ebbw Vale was an amazing industrial town with loads of high paid jobs until the 80s. The salaries in the steel work were incredibly high.
Farage and Reece Mogg (both very wealthy men) were aloud to lie their heads off and talk about blue passports and the good old days and now the people of s Wales have to suffer.
Are farage and co going to be held account for their toxic agenda spreading...... no!!!
@@harrymackintosh1874 Wales would not be able to complete in heavy industry such as steel with the Koreas and Chinas of this world. Even the cheaper European locations, like Poland, are too expansive and not competitive enough. Something new is needed, something that cannot be so easily moved. Design, innovation...
@@noodleppoodle couldnât agree more. I just feel that leaving the EU has closed more doors than it has opened.
Boris doesnât give a toss about Wales. Heâs just a power hungry freak who wanted to be PM!!!
You read articles he wrote years ago in The guardian about European investment and job creation........ it just blows my mind.
Steel has been going from Ebbw Vale for years and it just makes me so upset that we have created this culture of lazy, unmotivated workforce who hang out in con clubs and British legion s.
Complaining no one is doing anything for them đĄ
"Waste of money" means "not given to us"
Mate, your city hall decided to create that statue. The EU gives funds for projects, the EU does not micromanage everything. They give a part of the fund for arts, because arts is considered a part of the human experience and alll people should have access to it. If your city hall decides that they want a dragon statue, that is their fault, not the EU's.
It doesn't really matter who decided to have the statue, the people of the town think it's a waste of money, ie British taxpayer's money. Wasting the money on it was facilitated by EU membership. Easy fix.
@@steviesteveo1 I can't see the people of that town losing any sleep over that, or noticing any difference.
@@hughjohns9110 right, so what youâre saying is itâs the EUs fault that the local council thought this was a good idea and applied to get it funded? You really think Home Counties Tories will look after Wales better?
@@nicksayajirao1730 aha, the old "so what you're saying".
Well you can see what Im saying, in my last comment. Im saying what I wrote, not what I didnt write.
They are Welsh. They can't understand these types of complex subjects.
"Boris Johnson has promised." Ohhhh, its all going to be ok then. Because he's so good at keeping promises.
He also promised 350 million for the NHS if everyone voted to leave, one wonders what happened to that promise?
@@Jackmack365 Literally the morning after the vote Farrage was on breakfast TV saying they had never promised that.....
Hahahaha! Absolutely !
Brexit might work out Northern England and Wales at the end only IF the EU shuts out the City of London from the EU marked.
The traditional industries of UK suffered mainly becaue off the Dutch diseas effect created by the City of London when the "free movement of capital" was allowed in 1992.
The City of London basically drained all brain and investment from industrial production and engineering.
So if now more of the bright young adults or young adults with wealthy parents start to study medicine, engineering or economics and to work for industry instead of law firms and bank, the aereas that were bled dry might start to prosper again.
All this could have been prevented off course if the City of London presented the rest of the UK a reason to allow the City of London to continue to be successfull. But as it looks like the banks and lawfirms only took took took and gave nothing or close to nothing back. All they left were carcasses of once profitable factories and entire regions in financial and social descent.
Indeed, I'm sure bob-a-job Boris will spare them a penny or two.
As an Australian (and therefore a outside observer to both nations) this seems to be exactly the same mindset as blue collar, poor and rural Americans that keep voting GOP and expect the wealth to _trickle down_ to them.
little bit more complex than that, the centre left labour party has a hard time targeting it's traditional voters in small post industrial towns progressive social polices are kryptonite to these groups but if they pull those polices they will lose their urban vote, basically they are between a rock and a hard place, a traditional working class voter and a rural tory have a lot in common with each other when it comes to social attitudes and probably enjoy seeing the avocado on toast brigade suffer.
spot on.
@@E6hosting You are perhaps correct but what's the answer? Brexit was funded by this lot... www.brexitshambles.com/brexit-scam-we-need-to-talk-about-tufton-street/ they had the funding to convince the public it was about sovereignty and fish when its about tax dodging and deregulation. I think a rude awakening will happen but frogs slowly getting boiled don't realize until its too late. UK is now set up to harm these people even worse... With top 10% getting richer.
@@tumblefatboy Is it too much to ask the Welsh Government to take responsibility for its own affairs and stop blaming Westminster? Hold on, I forgot, the Welsh Assembly is controlled by Labour - so forget I just said that.
@@edmundbell-king4538 You didn't read my post obviously! Funding by far right Think tanks and facebook caused brexit using propaganda. Wales voted in the same way Turkeys vote for Xmass.
The EU cared more about these regions than our own government ever did. the ERDF was basically a lifeline for places like this, and they voted that away because they didn't think things could get any worse. But it can get worse. MUCH worse. As they are about to find out. And no, the Tories won't replace the funding. They don't give a shit about places like this, they are the ones responsible for the decline in the "left behind" areas in the first place. Anyone who thinks that they'll suddenly do a U-turn on that and invest in areas that hate them is delusional beyond my comprehension.
To be fair Boris does a lot of U turns.
It beggars belief that these strong pro Brexit areas have the nerve to complain, our government donât care about the little people their just money grabbing, pompous pratâs who are making a killing from Brexit and pro EU supporters were sore loserâs. Guess the last laugh đ is on you Brexiteers. Lol
Just glad we are out the bloody EU myself.
@@vinycrimbo8692 why is that?
ERDF has only ever kept unenviable projects going that should never have been funded. If they were viable, they wouldn't have needed ERDF funding, would they? The EU does not create wealth, it just taxes at the member nation level and then reallocates that wealth to those that can't create their own - the usual communist crap heads deciding what pet project they should fund without any real world business experience. What is needed is to put in place an environment that allows entrepreneurship to flourish.The EU never has, can't and never will create such environments. Thank GOD for Brexit.
EU: Pays for rail, infrastructure, adult learning facility and finance a statueâŠ
Locals: eU iS wAsTiNg mOnEy !!1!1
Considering how they voted against their own interests... perhaps the education was wasted.
Well to be fair only one person said they were wasting money and she didn't really seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.
It's not EU money, it's UK taxpayers money being allowed to come back to us
@@mogznwaz incorrect, itâs all of EU citizens tax money. And guess what, EU has more citizens than UK hence it can afford bigger loans. Thatâs why the UK cannot afford to match what the EU invested for the local development fund.
@Johann Sebastian Bach what money? We are talking of underdeveloped areas of wales where the UK gov never invested a dime. Your mental gimnastics canât change the fact that the EU has a bigger budget and invest where London never cared to.
I find it very difficult to believe that someone who wears a mask with their nose hanging out the top would be a reliable authority on anything.
Well spotted. She wasn't the smartest tool in the shed!
He thinks the masks actually do anything đ
@@paste5004 Back to your Qanon cave Paste
@@VelcroKittie it's the science pal
@@paste5004 You should go try waste someone else's time "pal." A simple mute sorts you out. Tuda-loo matafackah
Reminds me of a Monty Python sketch: 'Yes, but what have the Romans done for us'?
once on a long walk to the pub a freind regaled me with stuff he had learnt on a documentary about romans and half an hour i kept but apart from.... what have the romans ever done for us ! he never got the joke and voted leave! I'd never put the 2 together
Yeah, and the way brexit is described in the British tabloids reminds me of another MP sketch, the one with the dead parrot.
Crucifixion or freedom? Oh crucifixion please
Absolutely spot on but they are too dumb to actually understand the joke and probably think The Life of Brian was some kind of edgy documentary.
@@nicklaskowalski With the Welsh Labour Party still holding the line in the Welsh Assembly, things ain't going to get any better, either.
I donât feel sorry for them. They were warned, they ignored those warnings and called them project fear and called remainers anti British. *YOU WON SO STOP MOANING ABOUT BREXIT AND ENJOY YOUR SOVEREIGNTY!!*
We are thanks !
Yeah obviously
That's a pretty bad ass looking Dragon Statue though...
Six years on, and I have even more disdain for people in areas like that who voted for Brexit. I know those areas are suffering even more now, but that's their own fault.
Disdain. And with that attitude, you wonder why you didn't win the vote in 2016!!
@@stephenbarden6121 Sometimes ridicule is necessary. Don't vote with your ego and emotions.
âI want the UK government to change its way of thinkingâ yeah, good luck with that.
Its their own thinking that needs to change. Stop blaming others for their own shortcomings would be a good start.
Don't hold your breath. X
The Tory government that tell U.K. companies to set up operations in the EU if they have problems in the U.K. Good luck Wales, maybe you can do the same! đ€Ż
Thats actually a direct quote from Starmer.
Remember Thatcher? Maybe your to young but she screwed the country as well, why the hell do people keep voting in this shower of shit and wonder why the poor and wealthy divide keeps growing...
Well, the adult education program didn't do much to enhance their ability to make informed decision.
Rupert Murchock owns they souls with the Sun.
Lmao my thoughts exactly
đCan't argue with that !
You can't educate away stupidity, just ignorance.
@@panzerkami2381 what EU funding it was just the EU giving back money that we gave to them in the first place, the EU don't have any money
I love that the lady implied that it was the EU who wasted money on useless projects. The money came from the EU, but it was local government who chose the projects and spent the money.
I'm glad that the eu now hired humans that check what the duck you are doing with Brussels cash
I live in Wales, although not Welsh by birth. I've seen some of the devastation caused by Thatcher etc. I've seen many projects EU funded. I've also seen the unbelievable stupidity of so many who were benefitting from those projects in voting leave. My flabber is totally ghasted. The gullibility and fear of the "stealing our jobs" prats. So many were led to believe that the REFUGEES in Calais were immigrants! I could go on and on. Too late now, and I get no satisfaction from their position. The referendum was madness!!
Uhh, to be fair, in order to be a refugee you must be a person who is fleeing political persecution in their home country and seeking asylum.
Refugee and Immigrant literally go hand in hand...
@@adambaker4590 Like me, you're here purely because of an accident of birth.
I have friends in Milford Haven, three oil refineries surround that place and two of them are owned by EU companies, the British owned one is now struggling.
Couldn't make it up.
@@JustAGameShow data show us the figures,do you have access to the accounts of all three companies?
The immigrants in Calais are not refugees. They are economic migrants.
A small town, directly funded by the EU that votes pro Brexit đ€Łđ€Ł unicorns are arriving, well done, Welsh
@Saturnz Not all Welsh but a majority did. As did a majority of farmers and fishermen. So, a sarcastic well done is warranted
@Saturnz yes, majority of Welsh population voted for Brexit.
Turkeys voted for christmas. Well donne, Wales...đđđ
@@panchovilla5940 Calling the majority of Welsh people 'turkeys' just because they hold a different view to your own. Not so smart.
@@edmundbell-king4538 Why not ??...A victory in elections donÂŽt justify an idiotic decision of the electorate...Otherwise, democracy would be a dictatorship of the majority. Remember, Hitler was democraticaly elected...Reason and racionality were never synonymous of majority...
This is what made me so sad even before the referendum. So many people in the so called 'left behind' areas were saying 'we have nothing to lose; let's get back at Cameron and those cushy southern bastards'. And me, who used to work for the civil service office that deals with ERDF allocations, was sat there virtually in tears because I _knew_ that they had something to lose. The EU Commission was pumping anything up to 75% funding into projects in areas that required more employment. Some of it went on roads, other portions went on job creating schemes, even something like the dragon statue that they complain about in this video would improve the appearance of the area and possibly encourage investment. The schemes that were accepted were in competition with other areas across Europe so something like the dragon might have seemed a possible good return for a small investment from the bottom the UK's allocation barrel. Someone from that area would have proposed it and put in a bid; it wouldn't have been the EU's idea.
And no, the government won't 'step in'. Firstly, they would have to cover the full investment, instead of the 25-50% they had to pay when in the EU. But, more importantly, they couldn't give a shit about the 'left behind' areas and never did. It was the Tories that made them 'left behind' (or more accurately, thrown on the rubbish heap) in the first place; why would leaving the EU make them any different? This is the biggest mystery to me over the whole Brexit issue; why would any working person *ever* expect a Tory based project like the ERG's hard Brexit to turn out in their favour. You 'won', get over it; you're stuffed (unless you have the guts to organise and fight back).
Also, they thought they were "sticking it" to the "elite", but in reality they played right into the hands of those who didn't care about them.
Thx, same in germany
The UK was a net contributor to the EU not a receiver.
Any funds received by the UK were paid in by the UK in the first place.
The remainers are to leftist and filled with self hatred that they are simply unable to see their bias.
They have no problem with Canada for example being able to survive on its own or Australia but an economy bigger than both those cannot????????
Complete biased nonsense.
@@greeny202ab about UK contribution - that is true, but the cost of management of such efforts is pretty high and if the UK was to do the same it would cost more and work worse. As it was before the EU. Cost of managing such efforts can exceed 80% if the management is as "efficient" as the UK government seems to be lately.. and the EU provides robust and transparent framework for a lot of other areas too. Every single one of the EU projects that UK withdrew since the referendum and tried by itself was either canceled or failed.
@@nikoladd Perhaps you are right but fortunately the UK has over a thousand years of experience in managing its own affairs without being controlled by any others apart from of course the 40 years we have been in the EU.
I think the fifth largest economy on Earth can just about manage. Especially considering the FTA we have with the 3rd largest and the FTA that will be announced with the 6th largest in January and the 1st largest in March.
Then again perhaps you are right and the British are the only ones that couldn't possibly achieve anything without the help of others.
"Boris Johnson's government have promised to level up..."
Well there's your problem, right there.
I'm sure Boris will discover his compassionate side soon. Right after he's done transferring 350 million pounds a week to the NHS.
Brexit voters: 'Why should we pay the E.U money ? .. It's our money !, etc '
....After Brexit. No money from the E.U, and no money from Westminster. đ
And less money in the Brexit votersâ pockets.
Apart from 80% furlough money
Funny how the tide turns isn't it, EU investment shown to be on wasted projects that see little results, government is now injecting 2.5million into projects that actually work and already creating hundreds of jobs, prospects of new rail links etc, it seems it was the local council squandering EU money that was the issue here, the people never really benefitted from it so why no vote to leave.
â@@genome616 You sound as if you repeat things you have heard or read .Like : '' 'Shown to be wasted '. Shown how ? . There also is a difference between promising and delivering. Westminster is promising hundreds of jobs, Rail links.Tories promised this, that and the other. They have done so for over a decade. They just never do it.
@@spiritualanarchist8162 I have family there, 2 of which just got employed in a new battery making plant, as much as it might be a bitter taste for you both labour ignored this community and the EU wasted millions on pointless projects, it is only in the last 10months and the governments help that we are seeing a promising outlook for once.
Turkeys voting for Christmas then expecting the butcher to not only spare the knife but to provide feed corn too. đ€
What a complete joke of a post, also the farcical comments by the dullard rejoiners - there isnt a steel industry because we are not competitive. We are not competitive in the main because of the farcical environmental policy which means steel production is pushed away to countries like China who have no environmental policies so we lose jobs and the environment suffers - great the EU isnt it?
@@icarus877
Are you just copy and pasting this on every post that doesn't sing the praises of Brexit.
The environmental policies you are talking about were agreed on by the UK. We had the right to veto, we didn't.
But can't expect a brexitor to understand facts
@@sarank1809 Another Tory Party HQ Troll
â@@icarus877 That's a load of rubbish when there's still plenty of steel industry across the EU from Scandinavia (SSAB and Outokumpu) to southern Europe with Spain and Italy (Acerinox, Danieli, ILVA, etc.). As for losing to the Chinese that's just them dumping the resulting steel from their jobs programs where they keep unprofitable industry going.
@@icarus877 It's hilarious to see how you brexiters are still angry, even though you have now got everything you said you wanted.
I doubt whether anyone in the Cabinet even knows where Ebbw Vale is.
I live 50 km away and I didnt know that it existed.
LOL
@@juangomezfuentes8825 HAHAHAHA
Do the Welsh Assembly ? As they are actually in charge of spending the money. Labour run I believe.
Boris Johnson lays awake worrying about places like this , I think not . They wonât see a penny and itâs probably their own fault.
I doubt the EU lost much sleep over them they probably felt obliged to at least give some money back.
It is their own fault.
@@kethughes8266 It's literally the EU's job to invest money in these poorer areas of Europe.
@@jukahri It's literally the UK governments job to invest money in the poorer areas of the UK and now they have little more to invest.
Why would they worried?
They asked for this situation and now they got what they wanted.
Sovereignty, big celebrations coming.
Agreed, turkeys voting for x-mas shouldn't complain when the knifes come out.
@@paulalderson7329 we already had it. see how we can close our borders to other countries all of a sudden like they told you we could not? who would think serial conman farage was lying to you eh?
They've got what they voted for, and they have to live with it. I would say they deserve it.
My thought exactly
Do you think ? Tell ye what donât give the EU ÂŁ2.30 for them to spend ÂŁ1.00 on you.just spend ÂŁ2.30 on yourself.Visna great welsh name .how much did the big daft dragon cost Wales and that big blue daft Badge on the wall
@@rickiericardo4374 Nothing. At least half of the funding would have come from the EU and the rest from a central government allocation for Wales. And it would have been a local government proposal to put it there. The EU never imposes that kind of decision on localities; they would just have accepted a bid for funding on the basis of how the project was presented.
Oh, and your ÂŁ2.30 wasn't for the dragon; it was an investment that returned at least five times as much for the British economy. It was the Tories who arranged that you didn't get your share of the dividend, not the EU. The ERDF funding is a completely different arrangement designed to try to stimulate employment and investment in areas like this one.
What a complete joke of a post, also the farcical comments by the dullard rejoiners - there isnt a steel industry because we are not competitive. We are not competitive in the main because of the farcical environmental policy which means steel production is pushed away to countries like China who have no environmental policies so we lose jobs and the environment suffers - great the EU isnt it?
@@icarus877 British Steel was in a mess by the late 70s. Nothing to do with EU environmental policy; it was a government subsidised business for a reason. Thatcher decided to trash it, like she did the mines, rather than keep them on as subsidised industries while fresh employment was phased in. This wasn't the EU, it was the bloody Tories, as per usual crashing industry and destroying lives for their own ends. Just like they're doing right now with the car industry and the farms.
They're like locusts; they strip the nation of all its wealth and then leave it to Labour to fix it again so they can blag their way in again when we've recovered enough for themto do more harm. If you doubt me then take a look at recent government borrowing and where it's been squandered. Or even better take a look at the Tories' record on borrowing compared to Labour. They had us ÂŁ1,876.8 trillion in debt and rapidly climbing by April this year, whereas it was ÂŁ1.2 trillion in 2010. A decade of austerity and the incompetent Tories have got us a further ÂŁ0.7 trillion in debt.
They wonât be getting replacement cash, instead they will be told to pull themselves up by their bootlaces
The EU only GREEN LIGHTS FUNDS, NOT PROJECTS! these utter POSTS! the dragon was THEIR TOWNS IDEA! the EU only says:
" well...if THAT'S the PROJECT you REALLY WANT?? here are the Funds..." THE MORE i hear of this country the less i like it -.-
stupidity is the only ruling monarchy in the UK. And it REIGNS.....ABSOLUTE! -.-
That's where you're wrong.
When they ask for replacement cash - they'll be shown the dragon statue.
And be told about how their town hall has a habit of wasting money, so why should they be given any?
An old German saying: Man sÀgt nicht an dem Ast auf dem man sitzt, or translated: You don't saw the branch ur sitting on.
Leaving the EU that takes our tax money and then gives back a fraction of it whilst we have an 80 billion trade deficit is hardley the same.
@@kethughes8266 The UK got far, far more out of the EU than it ever put in. If you still don't understand that, you fully deserve what is coming to you.
As they say, don't bite the hand that feeds you.
@@kethughes8266 the European market was the biggest in the world, UK benefited a lot from it by being part of the EU
@@sallmandar1027 Correct the UK did benefit from the EU but finanicial grants were not an area that they did benefit from. The UK was always a net contiributor to the EU and that is a fact.
@@TheEvertw Financialy the EU got more out of the UK than the UK got out of the EU.A large trade deficit and a net contributor to EU funds are just simply facts.In other areas the UK benefited from EU membership greatly.
pissed myself laughing when they said "they hope the british government will step in to fill the vaccum"... lmao ....I doubt that very much. Peopl complaining about wastes of money.. erm that down to the people in your council's spending the money the EU give to you... blame your local counciland representatives not the EU. FFS.
Exactly. Isnt the money which went to the EU earmarked for the NHS....some red bus told me?
The money the EU give to you ??? The money that the UK gave to the EU that they are now giving back to you ... and not all of it. Some of it went to projects to buildfactories in eastern Europe to take work away from the UK. "Rejoiners" so sad !
@@kensimdall705 someone who loves gettin shafted by the greedy tory crooks... good luck.
@@reggiegimmix9128 as opposed to being shafted by the EU for 40 years. At least we can vote the Tories out.
EU leaders are appointed and not elected. I'll stick with self governance and elections thanks.
@@kensimdall705 if were all so rich now why are the tories scrimping and scraping, taxes going up, farmers can't get workers, fishing can't sell their catches, hotels and restaurants are scaling back... the only people making money are big Tory funders...and tory frineds. they're crooks. oh and the UK got lots of mney back fro projects... where is that money now... We were told things would be cheaper, energy would be cheaper...everything they said has turned out the complete opposite...they don't even do cheack on goods coming into the UK from europe. Their so called trade deals are the same deals if not worse than we already had while members of the EU...there has been very few if any benefits since leaving . Everyone omplaining and blaming the EU for UK being a 3rd country and having to trade based on 3rd country rules. These are the same rules that we ourselves voted for when our European representatives actually had some voting power on EU rules... we voted for these 3rd party rules and now were out and are a 3rd party company they're trying to blame the EU....so we're now living by rules emposed on us by us.... it's frickin madness and the Tories are trying to blame this on the EU and dumb suckers who read the crap thats in the daily mail or on Sky are brainashed into thinking that they're being treated badly by the EU when it's the complete opposite. These same people are the ones who didn't do their homework and believed the bullshit they were told by Bozo and his clown troupe. Bozo is the UK version of Trump... now that's SAD. Tories are charlatans and common criminals, I mean they're even trying to stop independent committies scrutinising what they do and how they lobby on behalf of companies... it's as crooked as it gets... and people still unbelievably vote for them... I mean what are they thinking. The mind boggles... So yeah go on good luck to you and your family... enjoy the next few Christmas's, and good luck to your childrens future.
They voted to Leave and the EU has obliged.
No, the EU didn't oblige at all. They fought tooth and nail to keep the English in the EU as they knew they had the money they needed. The EU is all about capturing national treasury wealth from its EU member states and then redistributing it on wasteful projects. The EU itself makes nothing and earns nothing. We don't need the EU to do that, we have our own incompetent national governments for that.
@@edmundbell-king4538 What wasteful projects? Do you mean roads, a Nissan plant in Sunderland, schools, hospitals? What do you mean? If your talking about the dragon statue in the video, then I'll let you know it was local representatives who sold the idea to the EU. It could have been sold as a cultural funding requirement.
@@edmundbell-king4538 not at all. EU is happy about Brexit, as are the citizens. Brexiteers are economically short-sighted/blind. You don't mess with a market if you want to be part of it.
@@edmundbell-king4538 To each their own, and it happens that ours is Scotland and North Ireland. Kind regards, a European citizen
@@edmundbell-king4538 the EU adds a lot of value in many areas as it decreases costs, both for production/trade as for government tasks. Here is just one example: UK leaving EASA and creating an own aviation safety regulator costs at least 10 times as much. But what am I talking about, you are brainwashed and no amount of evidence will convince you that costs can be lowered through cooperation.
Iâm sure I saw a longer news piece about this town and the upshot was that the local authorities decided how the EU money was spent, rather than using it in a long term beneficial way they flittered it away. Maybe the locals were angry at the wrong people.
âMaybeâ
That's not how EU funding works, at least I can't think of a case like that. It's essentially always granted on a project basis: you have to submit a detailed plan to get funded. The EU doesn't just hand you money for you to use for whatever you like.
Now, if could well be that stupid projects were given grants, or they were mismanaged. The locals definitely have a chance to waste a lot of the money if they try to....
You think?
@@IdiotPosterBoy EU funds work both ways. Project by project and directly applying to the EU is one avenue.
The other one is indeed, allotting a certain amount of money to national/regional governments.
Of course, it's not pile of cash just dumped In their lawn, the EU gives stipulations and guidelines to what those funds could and should be spent on. But in essence, national/local governments get freedom in how projects get selected. If one can steer on the how, they can steer on who gets it.
But: it's still EU money, even though the national governments love to boast about it and members like spending it on their cousins company.
Sounds like a typical Brexit voter.
"This hasn't worked out like we hoped" say slugs who voted for salt.
The E.U. should take their dragon back.
Whats tragic about this on a personal level is how much I want to shout 'Serves you right, we told you this would happen' and then how much I hate myself for thinking that.
And I bet many were whining about a cruel EU being beastly in cutting off the money, without a shred of irony.
The EU only GREEN LIGHTS FUNDS, NOT PROJECTS! these utter POSTS! the dragon was THEIR TOWNS IDEA! the EU only says:
" well...if THAT'S the PROJECT you REALLY WANT?? here are the Funds..." THE MORE i hear of this country the less i like it -.-
stupidity is the only ruling monarchy in the UK. And it REIGNS.....ABSOLUTE! -.-
In recent years I have travelled extensively in the EU and witnessed the results of the EU Regional Development Fund. The Fund has successfully lifted so many previously depressed areas from relative poverty and misery into thriving communities.
âTurkeys voting for Christmasâ comes to mind. Still, never mind, thereâs a lot more sovereignty for everyone in the UK now!
(Anyone want to buy my sovereignty?)
Two tings to say first they say the EU money was spent wrong and wasted but it was up to the local authorities to say what the money was spent on, ok there may have been a few restrictions on what the money could be spent on. Second what did you expect when the leavers voted to leave you would still get the same funding oh sorry project fear now project reality.
Itâs not wasteful, they got a dragon! I donât foresee a unicorn being build of Brexit money.
Yes but they voted for a unicorn.
@@Crusty_Camper unfortunately the dragon eat the unicorns, wish people wold just admit that they were lied to and except what is coming and rent their frustration at were it is needed.
These people are complete idiots, did they think that money would roll in to help them when Brexit was done. In my area the EU funded flood defences and our government dragged its heels paying their portion of the cost. Our own government care less than EU about the run down areas. Get ready, thereâs worse to come. If you voted for Brexit stop moaning itâs because of you were in a mess now.đ€đ€đ€
@Jack Jones Wales is maybe not giving the EU ÂŁ10 and getting 5 back, London is. London gave the EU ÂŁ10 and the EU gave Wales ÂŁ5, what is London giving Wales? That is the question people are asking?
For those hoping the UKGovt will now step in to help underdeveloped areas I say this - past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour. What has our Govt done for you up until now?
They piss on our backs and tell us it's raining.
And then raise taxes which they say they will use to buy an umbrella.....
@@tonyb9735 Considering the way they took action, the Welsh might actually enjoy the English piss.
It's almost as if leavers didn't know what they were voting for...
@Billy Bones Yeah well they've got all the sovereign tea they can drink now. Gulp it down, morons. lol.
@Billy Bones Really? Damn, I'm running out of expletives to call stupid people! Maybe I'll just start using the word "Brexiter" as a general pejorative then!
@Billy Bones How dare you, sir! I am no Brexiteer!
They donât even know how to wear face masks in Wales , but they all knew about the benefits of Brexit , well done wales , another great victory , leveling up should follow shortly.
(crickets)
Lol
The mask usage looks very similar to here in the South-East of England.
The irony when masks aren't even required in shops in England anymore but they are a legal requirement in Wales
It's easier to potty train a baby than making people wear a facemask properly. As a regular visitor to the UK during the last 30 years, I have been amazed by the poor state the entire country is in: potholed roads, delapidated buildings, flooding after every downpour, old diesel trains but also unhealthy looking people. Everything looks old and tired! In often stunning scenery. I wonder what will happen with the EU signs, but don't count on Boris and his cronies to step in. Tighten your belt Ebbw Vale!
If the uk government wasn't willing to spend money on this place before, why would they want to spent it on them now!
They should be lucky the EU helped them.
THEY helped US ??? WTF are you a complete moron? There is no such thing as Eu money it was OUR money propping up them! We were a net contributor and the Eu used to send back a pittance of OUR money with strings attached and their badge on it. My god you idiots are so brainwashed
@@Porkcylinder đ€Ł UKs contribution, just like the other 27 countries contributions went to this community. The âenglishâ contribution to this community will be nil. As was pointed out, their local politicians/officials put forward business cases for EU investment and got it, they were voted in by this community, good luck getting investment from the âenglishâ parliament. They havenât bothered in 100âs of years but itâs nice that the optimism, shown now, while misplaced is, well, misplaced.......
And the BRITISH parliament didnât contribute just like the other 27 it contributed a massive amount more unless in your broken little brain you think we were ALL taking money out of the mythical Eu money treeđ I bet you actually did think that you total tool.
@@Porkcylinder But that Welsh town is getting SFA from now onwards. It will be left to rot. You don't think for a second the Tories or Labour care about some pissy wee town in Wales do you? Under the EU, impoverished towns got grants according to a formula, not according to how it's citizens voted or who it's citizens donate to, went to school with or whatever else.
Wales, Cornwall, Yorkshire, :Lancashire... they are all stuffed now. They dont matter.
@@justblairthompson maybe that small welsh town should stop thinking itâs entitled to free money and sort itâs shit out then, let me guess itâs a Labour run toilet whoâve run it into the ground pissing money away on diversity bs. Maybe next time theyâll think before voting for Marxist morons
Turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind, When has Boris Johnson ever kept a promise
More like chickens for KFC.
Nothing to do with Boris. The Welsh Assembly is controlled by Labour. Go ask them where those funds are.
The point is the funds are less .
@@russellwaterhouse3457 Maybe not true for Wales. Ultimately, the UK as a whole, funded more than it got back from the EU pot - but Wales, Scotland and N.I. obviously got a better return than than did regions within England. However, it was English taxpayers that funded most of our contribution to the EU. If we look at this from a Brexit standpoint, overall, there is more money to go around within the UK regions - or, at least there was, until COVID came along.
@@edmundbell-king4538 Well I am not sure that is really a fair reflection of the impact of leaving the single market . The impact on business and Income is not just down to COVID, but Covid has not helped and probably has masked the situation. The tax take has been impacted in certain industries due to tariff and being a third country in relation to the single market. this reduced profits and tax take and earning etc.
The office of national statistics has said that the impact is approx. 440 Million to the UK as a whole, this is more than was paid to the EU gross, the net figure was obviously much less to.
This impacts all nations, and all all of us really.
I don't know, but here in my town, the people ruling the city decide what they spend the money for ... it's not the EU that's wasting the money, it's their city council, isn't it?
Correct. Besides, most of those projects weren't a waste of money anyway. Huge amounts of EU funds were put to good use in supporting major infrastructure projects throughout South Wales, including Ebbw Vale. These included improving telephony and internet connectivity, as well as building colleges, hospitals and roads. So not only were these people ignorant of how the system worked, they were also being highly selective in which projects they chose to criticise.
@@ftumschk That's true, too. I meant the dragon statue. :D I bet it was not the EU saying. You must put that statue there. :D
@@dadrumer Indeed, it definitely wasn't the EU. It was Ebbw Vale's council and Business Forum who decided that a new sculpture[*] would brighten up the town centre, and applied for EU financial support via the Welsh Government.
[*] Not just a statue, either, but a whole area of derelict land was revamped with new walls and paving to make an attractive public space. So maybe it wasn't such a "waste of money" as the cynics claimed.
@@ftumschk Yeah, that's how I know the process from here, too. :D It's so ridiculous, when people show stuff like that as examples for bad EU stuff. There is enough to critisize, but the money in Wales seems to be good use.
Outside observer here from the states. This is baffling to me. Iâve read some history. It doesnât seem as though the historical record is full of cases where the English fall all over themselves to help out the Welsh and make their life better. Why would the welsh be convinced that the English have changed and that things are going to get better now that the EU which actually appeared to care about them has left? Why would any sane, thinking person vote against a good thing like that? Itâs like all those idiots here that vote Republican even though Republicans are always implementing programs that are against the interest of so much of their base.
You know nothing about UK history or politics then. Wales and England are virtually indistinguishable, nearly all laws are the same except those made by the devolved government on local spending. Most money is made in London (those pesky bankers) then distributed across the UK where it is spent by the elected local authority. In Wales it's Labour and Scotland the left wing SNP. Scotland particularly does very well out of this. Wales and Scotland spend all their money on vote winning freebies and pet projects to keep themselves in power. Then blame 'the Tories' or 'the English' for anything that goes wrong. Very convenient.
The EU only GREEN LIGHTS FUNDS, NOT PROJECTS! these utter POSTS! the dragon was THEIR TOWNS IDEA! the EU only says:
" well...if THAT'S the PROJECT you REALLY WANT?? here are the Funds..." THE MORE i hear of this country the less i like it -.-
stupidity is the only ruling monarchy in the UK. And it REIGNS.....ABSOLUTE! -.-
@@mogznwaz I think youâre quibbling. Regardless, their vote is still sheer and absolute insanity. Completely stupid.
@@philomelodia The Welsh are just spending the money the UK sends to the EU and then gets back. It's not EU money.. The UK was a NET contributor to the EU
@@mogznwaz what complete garbage
I will need an update for this a year from now, really want to know do they get what they vote for.
after 10 months: they got what they voted for.
@@ssm445 indeed.
Ans: Tory.
Otherwise, they'd have to accept they were wrong. And that ain't happening!
This is great news for the EU. We remove the funding, spend it inEurope, where the EU is much more appreciated, and the citizens in this Welsh villaga will not bother us, because their own Tory Government has secured, that no emigration/ immigration is allowed anylonger. A win-win situation for EU. Michael Keldsen, Denmark.
Except for the ÂŁ10 billion net contribution by the UK to the EU of course, maths perhaps wasn't a good subject for you at school?
Denmark didn't the Welsh soldiers kick out nazi's in world war two there I think they did !
@@gwynwilliams4222 didn't Denmark have a resistance in ww2. Think it did. Also stop living in the f ING past. It's almost 70 years ago.
@@lloydnaylor6113 I prefer less money over the incessant prattling of the English. Stay on your little xenophobic islands and dont bother us.
@@Valkbg of course we'll not bother you, until of course the German army swarms over your borders again then you'll be bothering us. Strange how the migrants risk their lives to come to this "xenophobic island" rather than settle in the safe EU đ€Ł
As an English long time resident of Wales, this is quite refreshing. English residents consistently get the blame in Wales for Brexit, although EVERY ONE of the many that I know, were fervent remainers. Wales as a whole was one of the biggest recipients of EU money. Leaving was utter madness.
there are about 27 countries with all the people that will never understand this. why?
Couldnât agree more đ
Bizarre to expect the Tories who almost a generation ago decimated heavy industries in the Welsh Valleys to step up now with regeneration funds. Good luck with that one, the Michael Heseltine wing of the party has been well and truly routed. Congratulations Ebbw you get precisely what you voted forđ
Well, now you get what you voted for...
Reality will hit quick and hard.
Learning by pain...
I think all you remainders should sit and wait and letâs see . you need time to really evaluate weather it was a good decision I personally believe it will be
@@adamclay2284 Wait and see for what? Businesses are going under or migrating to the EU. Scottish fishermen are losing 1 million pounds a day.
@@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 business going under ,where do you get this information from? The UK is booming, the only problem UK businesses are suffering from (apart from energy costs, a worldwide problem) are labour shortages,caused by low unemployment and record job vacancies, unlike our European neighbours who have a higher level of unemployment.
@@scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 no they aren't. Business start ups and foreign investment are actually higher in the last 18 month period in the UK that at any time in the last 14 years ..funny that ?!
if the EU funded fee booze and TVs instead of Education this town would have voted in.
"But locals hope the British government will step in to fill the vacuum"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAHAHA AAAAAAAH GOOD ONE LAD! đđ€Ł
Talk about Turkeys voting for Christmas! The people who were talked into voting for Brexit were the one's that hadn't the first clue as to what the EU had done for them. Farmers, fishermen and others were all suckered I'm afraid.
That educational center was indeed a waste of money đđđđđđđđ
Hopefully the British government will give us funding now that the EU will not be...
(inhales)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!
(deep breath)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
The Cinema Sins are strong in this one!
Do you not trust a Boris Johnson promise?
Yes, sure, If you are lucky, you get some
offal like fisherman with ended with leftovers of British fishing quota that was sold abroad.
In your dreams the Tories will give nothing
@@MaximilienRobespierre1 Boris Johnson doesn't know how to tell the truth
And 10 months later, UK replacement funding still hasn't been allocated and the promised money that will supposedly come (albot 10 months late) is a fraction of the EU funding.
Actually the funding for UKSPF alone (launching in April) has been commited to 'at least match' the equivalent EU funding (which is still being continued/distributed up until 2023 and beyond as it paid for out the the 'divorce settlement').
In the mean time, to make sure funding didn't see any gaps, they launched the CRF, which is currently getting bids reviewed (delayed mainly by covid).
On top of that the government has launched additional UK-wide funds in the form of the Levelling Up Fund and the Community Ownership Fund and the City and Growth Deals programme.
Added together these will far exceed the previous EU funding, be better directed and will be in place considerably before the EU funds cease (again, which we've already paid for) and so saying it's a 'fraction of' is just way off base.
@@govr6771 wrong. If look at the specifics of individual counties. The funding was supposed to be paid out in April in love ght of covid. The projects have been approved but funding haasnt been released.
Swansea region will lose 50 million with CRF and build back better funding not covering the full shortfall. Council taxes have and will rise further to bridge the gap still leaving large gaps.
The problems our friends in Cornwall are similarly depressing and we'll documented.
Councils in the UK plan to make ÂŁ1.711 billion worth of cuts in the 2021-22 financial year.
ÂŁ434m of that (25%) is made up of savings from adult social care services in England and Wales as councils in Scotland and Northern Ireland do not have responsibility for social care.
Out of the 171 councils in the study, 155 (91%) have budgeted to make cuts for 2021-22
Community renewal funding hasn't been issued either as also reported by Merthyr Tydfil council.
Not that the UK scf wasn't ever but a joke.
Further details of the UKSPF will be set out in a âUK-wide investment frameworkâ to be published in spring 2021.
This was change to a broad prospectus with pushback of the framework until May. Projects are still being reviewed. Included, surprisingly, are the Freeport's. Consultantation on these went out early last year supposedly lasting till July last year. Details have still not been released with them now disappearing from their original funding tranch to scf. The first free ports were due to be opened already.
Further ÂŁ300 million of the Towns Fund has already been diverted to the Levelling Up Fund. Peter to pay Paul.
The government also never carried out it's 2017 promise and manifesto pledge to consult on the shared prosperity fund.
@@govr6771 it's 30 million spread out between the 3 regions of NI/Sco/Wal over 3 years...compare that to 100 million for each individual country...turkey's coming home to roost...
â@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 Announced yesterday : The chancellor Rishi Sunak has revealed the first details of the long-awaited UK Shared Prosperity Fund (UKSPF).
Initially worth over ÂŁ2.6bn across three years, funding will rise to ÂŁ1.5bn a year by 2024/25.
The fund will at least match the European Union scheme it has replaced in each nation each year, and the Government has promised it will âbetter tailor funding to local needs across the UKâ.
The '100m' levelling up fund (actually 170 for scotland be be precise) only makes up a very small part of the 4.6bn per year extra (plus 1.2bn extra Barnett) that Scotland is getting. And Wales/NI the same. And the CAP system is being replaced - so that's another ÂŁ500m per year as well.
Not only has the NHS seen far, far more than was ever on the side of a bus, all countries in the union will be getting wayy more than they ever did in the EU. Not saying it's been a walk in the park (thanks 'allies!') but in many areas those turkeys are already starting to roost quite nicely thank you. The rest? Well worth it.
should do a "where are they now?" follow-up ...
While you Remoaners are complaining about every little hic-up of Brexit that comes up in the news, us patriotic Brexit supporting farmers, fishermen and us courageous Brexiteer carworkers in Swindon are reaping the benefits of the fantastic success of our glorious Brexit. Why can't you just let us true blue Brexiteers wallow in our delirious happiness that we won our Brexit and that you lost your freedom of movement, farms, factories, NHS, democracy and the enthusiastic European labour force to power our economy. Get over it Remoaners.
@@alexanderromanov737 hahaha...This comment has "what did the Romans ever do for us?" vibes!
Too many people vote against their own interest.that is the real tragedy!
So, âBad Eu dragonâ, but who really allocated the funds to build that Dragon? Was it the EU who demanded they build a Dragon with it? Who planned and signed off on it?
Local council.
The locals don't seem to grasp how development schemes work: Some funds are allocated to businesses, some to infrastructure, some to education, some to civic improvements. The Welsh dragon was part of making a public square inviting, because attractive urban amenities stimulate investment. Tattered, coal stained urban wastelands are the legacy of the Thatcherite Tories. So, now that this city rejected the only government that gave a damn about them, I recommend they find the local bureaucrat who thought Welsh people would enjoy their special symbol...and beat the living crap out of him for good measure.
Priti Patel
@@jeffcampbell1555 are you surprised? How much does does society try and push the importance of these things? When was the last time you heard young people outside of a university setting say "I don't like X. Lets go protest parliament this weekend". Or "I don't like Y, lets form a union to try and resolve it."
The dragon is dope
Do these people really believe that Westminster gives a damm. The couldn't care less about towns and villages.
Offices, retail and services is what EU membership offers. Not high skill engineering jobs. Leeds is remain and this is our jobs market with EU membership. I hate retail jobs so I'm glad membership is over.
Rudyard Kipling poem If comes to mind;:- â If you can dream and not make dreams your master.â
What ignorance ! Even now,I doubt they have the ability to understand what they did to themselves.
They'll be waiting a very long time for that alternative funding...very sad.
There you have it: they voted for perpetual economising. In the future, they will probably think fondly about the time in which that public art project was erected with EU funding.
What a complete joke of a post, also the farcical comments by the dullard rejoiners - there isnt a steel industry because we are not competitive. We are not competitive in the main because of the farcical environmental policy which means steel production is pushed away to countries like China who have no environmental policies so we lose jobs and the environment suffers - great the EU isnt it?
@@icarus877 Have you seen the Pollution in CHINA ? Iam sure UK Steel jobs will come back now that you left the EU and there are no longer EU regulations stopping you
China produces steel at $10 per ton due to their scale and modern steel mills. The UK it cost $200 to produce one ton of steel.
Iam sure that magical Unicorns will happen.
@@wmd202 Very well put.
@@wmd202 You explain the points very well and all you do is make my point. Have I seen the pollution in China - oh yes and you would be so appalled by the environmental impact that we cause by not controlling what we consume and where it is made that you would totally agree with me I am sure. Let's behave responsibly and not just raise tarrifs but stop this irresponsible trade.
@@icarus877 There are different qualities of steel and if the German steel industry isnât all gone, the British couldâve survived competition with innovation. Trumps tariffs showed that basically every EU country has a steel industry and exports at least a few tons to the US.
I love and hate being Welsh. Amazing country with great country views and over 2500 years of history. Yet my fellow countrymen are so easily led astray. Always voting against your own interests. The problem with us Welsh is that the only concern many have is how the English see them. Its truly pathetic!!!
Sounds like you're from Rhyl, might need to step out to a real Welsh town at some point. Not that shithole
@Johann Sebastian Bach Do you? Going by our respective names I know a few more than you do.
@@Stettafire what does it matter? South Wales if you really want to know.
@Johann Sebastian Bach as for being community minded, you're correct. Local community over your Country. Thats why Wales was such an easy target for the English down the centuries. History shows you can always find a Welshman who is willing to sell his country out. Divide and Conquere works in Wales and Scotland like no where else. The English love us for it.
@@taffyducks544 The Irish diminutive name for Wales is Sasnach beag... Little England...
I feel very sorry for the minority there sensible enough to have voted to remain, and who have been unable to get out and move to the rest of the EEA before the end of free movement. Ireland still remains open as a route out for everyone. I've been in Portugal since August 2020. But, the majority in this area are a bunch of ingrates getting their just deserts. I hope they repent!
I do not think they are actually bright enough to realise they have anything to repent about. As an expatriate Briton now living abroad my own embarrassment at the Brexit vote has only been equalled by the embarrassment experienced by expatriate US colleagues when Trump was voted in.
Repent for not grovelling to the EU crooks
Well Ebbw Vale can look forward to rapid decline and be left to rot... The tories won't be interested in spending so much as a wooden groat in areas like this.
Nor will the Labour government of Wales, who, you would think, would be on the side of their constituents.
@@edmundbell-king4538 labour have not been in power during brexit times. Last time Labour were in was precisely when Ebbw vale was being invested in by the EU.
You have no idea what Labour would do.
Assumption politics at its worst.
@@keithd26 When was the last time Wales had a Conservative government? Labour have been in power in Wales for the entire 21st Century.
@@edmundbell-king4538 the labour gov't of wales only have limited powers. Most decisions are made in westminster.
@@keithd26 you have no idea what anyone would do, because it's contingent on the international situation. At the moment the entire west is in free fall including the USA and EU so as long as those are the poles Britain is aligned to it will decline.
Perhaps Rees-Mogg can establish an office for managing one of his offshore tax evasion schemes in the town, now that heâs managed to get EU tax evasion regulation removed. That should be good for a security guard, receptionist, and tea boy.
Sorry. Too late. He has already moved his office here to Dublin.
Edit to add; He has been warmly welcomed to Dublin and the EU tax zone.
@@dukadarodear2176 .. Here's me thinking he'd moved it to Hong Kong for future planning of the VAT tax hike.. Best place for richest offshore accounts apparently.
Can't see him opening it on EU soil, it's not even in the top ten most profitable.
With John Redwood Dan Hannan and Paul Nutall.
Iâm feeling a distinct sense of schadenfreude over this situation.
I do hope thereâs a followup video a year or two after the funding dries up. Really curious to see how hard this town stumbles.
"Iâm feeling a distinct sense of schadenfreude over this situation." You shouldn't because the people who get really hurt by this are vulnerable people and/or people who couldn't or didn't vote for Brexit.
Don't care. Democracy did its job just fine. They get what they asked for.
Greetings from Germany.
@@knusperkeks2748 Greetings Germany, hope you're doing OK. I heard you've recently replaced the UK as the worst performing economy in the G7, and have now entered a recession.
"I suspect there may be less funding available to us".... I'd say you're fairly bang on there buddy đŹđŻ
Awe Iâm so glad they have got exactly what they voted for , bet they are chuffed !
I'm Welsh and old enough to have lived in Wales before Britain joined the EU. There was 0 money invested in Wales at that time. I somehow think that despite Boris Johnson's promise to replace the EU financial support in Wales, it ain't goin to happen, because there will be higher priorties east of the Welsh border. But they do say there are a lot of sheep in Wales, maybe more than we thought ;-)
In the words of Nelson (the simpson's character): "Ha ha"
I was in placement at ebbw vale just before the vote. The town was dead. They had a really nice school, a nice college and a nice hospital. There is a train that goes direct to cardiff in an hour and fairly good infrastructure. It doesnt matter. They want the stealworks back. Anyone that builds on the stealworks is destroying that dream. They dont want to learn a trade because there is no work in that trade in ebbw vale once youve learnt it. They dont want to leave ebbw vale to work in cardiff or swansea or bridgend. They want the steal works back. And it aint ever coming back. And its a beautiful place. Anywhere else in the world it would be a community of people commuting to work and staying there for the scenary and the community and good school. People would fight hard to live there. But its not and i cant be too angry that they dont want to leave. Just sad.
Yes, this is the mindset. And they forget who brutally crushed the unions and closed the collieries and steelworks down. Suckers for punishment.
My kids are mad as hell they were too young to vote as they feel that old people saddled them with a future they didn't want. However, they picked up a phrase which they quote a lot: "Brexit means Brexit". Like most young people, they use it to mean "You made your bed and now you have to sleep in it".
Aren't you happy that there is no more money to waste?
I've been 25 years into the future ...they're still waiting for Boris's promised funds!
Seem to have bitten off the hand that feeds you.
@Alan speakman- their TAXES INDIRECTLY funded them, returned with a " FUNDED BY THE EU" sticker on it
@@jonathansimmons5353 It's taxes that actually returned to them, instead of going to the Tory donors.
Letâs talk in one year to see if these EU investments were replaced by U.K. and youâll explain where your money is gone then hahahahah
Still waiting!
To be fair that dragon looks dope. I would visit the place to see it
Me too. I planned to visit Wales before Brexit went through (before Covid) and I would most likely have made a trip to that town just for the dragon. However with all that I'm hearing, I do not want to go to the UK anymore, even if I wanted to go through the process instead of remaining in Europe.
@@eonadgm5416 agreed. If it's financed by the EU, maybe we could get it backđ
How cool would that look in any european old town...
@@Anita_Dick Good idea, but I don't think the people will let the statue go to the "evil" EU, after all now it's "their" statue even if they didn't want it in the first place.
This is priceless. They voted for this. They got their wish. Yet they are moaning now when things do not go the way wanted.
Wonderful! They have got what they asked for.
Well in 10 or 20 years when England and Wales reenter the EU as separate countries their diminished economies will make them eligible for all sorts of EU funding, like Poland and Romania.
Hopefully England will never rejoin, with a population of over 50 million imagine how much EU funding they'd suck up.
Don't be so sure England will ever re-join. By the time they apply Scotland will have a veto.
@@panzerkami2381 Nah the Scottish don't hate the English, they've just lost interest being a junior partner in the UK.
Lie the EU will be around then. The Paddy's will be out well before then as well.
I think Poland is at the exit door.
I love these reports. The people in these towns voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU, despite being warned that it would harm them. They scoffed at these warnings, they insisted they knew better when in fact they did not even know how much money their town received from the EU, and in most cases for decades. The UK has some of the poorest regions in all of Europe, and all of these were heavily supported by the EU, and now their own government will not support them.
That is the price of ignorance and arrogance.
This is the ( British) way.
Min 1:35 - Dan Coles states that with less funding "We are going to have to be a lot more focused at what we do and what those benefits will be...."...... really? So while you had free money being thrown at you, you were "Less focused on what you do and less interested in the benefits of the education you offered?"
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I'm not pro-Brexit - but I think the irony here is that cutting EU funding may just be what the doctor ordered for this lot.
I think that's more of a politically correct way of saying that they'll close classes and the like.
That's how i understand it at least.
If these people expect my sympathy then hell will freeze over before they get it!!! They were warned time and time again but willingly chose to ignore them!!! đĄđĄđĄđĄ
Well if it was our money in the first place what's to fear it will continue. Oh dear let's wait and see. Think you'll be waiting a long time!!
The school guy seems to be saying that while they were receiving EU money they could spend it irresponsibly... But now they'll have to be more careful. Clearly you guys did the EU a favor by leaving.
Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of their actions
Unbelievable choice from the people of Ebbw Vale to put their trust in the UK government .
It is very distressing when having to listen to turkeys feeling the cold steel of Christmas. Ooooops! Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word 'steel'.
Turkeys, Christmas, etc. There are many areas of England and Wales like this - such as Cornwall which voted leave and then discovered that 20% of the county budget (basically all its development funds) come from the EU!
Boy I'm glad I'm in NI and we have a foot out the door already staying in the EU customs union and single market and with a border down the Irish Sea. Plus everyone born in NI is automatically a citizen of both the UK and the ROI.
Within a decade NI will have reunified with the ROI and Scotland will be independent and most probably in the EFTA along with Norway and Iceland as the first step.
You think it will take that long for NI?
@@ab-ym3bf Yes I do, a decade is not that long for such a change.
Doesn't come from the EU,it comes from British taxpayers who are huge net contributors to the EU.
@@lloydnaylor6113 Ah that old canard. let's look at the 'but its our money' argument.'
1.) In 2019 after rebates the net UK contribution to the EU was 9.5 billion pounds and for that the UK was member of a single market giving full free trade in services (only possible in a single market with a common overarching law system) and for goods, seamless borderless trade.
Plus the UK had full use of the >750 trade and trade related agreements (including 19 comprehensive FTA's with large economies) that the EU has with >150 nations.
The net benefit to the UK from EU membership was huge way more than 9.5 billion and now much of that trade is already lost (eg share trading profits since Amsterdam now eclipses London in this area) and it will only get worse.
2.) As I pointed out in my initial comment the EU has long had a program whereby the poorest areas of the EU get targeted extra funding to help uplift them. When it comes to the top 10 poorest areas in northern Europe the UK has 6 of them. Some like Cornwall got 20% of their operating budget from this targeted EU funding - the area around Hull being another example.
Do you seriously think the Westminster government is going to ring fence and provide the same funding, let alone increase it?
As Daniel Hannan (a Tory Lord and former Tory MEP) said in an article in Conservative Home in Jan entitled 'Britain is Skint' - he called for a bonfire of regulations in that article as his answer. My point is though that these areas will never get the funding they used to - the Tory shires will not tolerate it.
3.) Lastly if you moan about the 9.5 billion to the EU think about the fact that the current net contribution to Northern Ireland is 11.5 billion pounds and much of it direct subsidies. During the decades of The Troubles the answer of successive GB governments was to throw money at NI. Per capita its residents get a far bigger share of the pot than other parts of the UK. may herself carried that tradition on giving the DUP an extra 1 billion bung to keep the Tories in office.
"Welsh pro-Brexit town prepares for loss of EU investment"
Lol.
Translates as small town prepares for loss of some of our money the EU allows us to have back
@@kethughes8266 Money which that small town will not see now that they're out of the EU.
@@jukahri How do you know the devolved Welsh government are more aware of their countries needs than any faceless bureaucrat from the EU that has probably never even been to Wales.
â@@kethughes8266 Oh yes, must be why there's EU funded projects all over town. Because "faceless bureaucrats from the EU" are not aware. They pretty much signed their own decline.
@@CityWhisperer Assuming of course the Welsh government don't fund projects with some of the money no longer sent to the EU of which we only get a fraction back.
This is a classic case of "You ripe what you sow", this can apply to the whole of the UK.
You were prepared to take a short term hit anyway. If it turns out to be long term you can get accustomed to it during the short term. You'll be fine.
boiling frogs....slowly.
Brexit means Brexit đ€·đŸââïž
Funny. That's literally the mantra they kept repeating đ€Ł
Good luck with that with the Tories in charge lol. Bit of a spectacular foot shooting incident right there...
Did you mean Grouse shooting?
@@salkeld571 No.
Oh dear. Itâs almost funny that they actually expect Johnsonâs Tories to give them something when we all know that sadly they will get nothing!
You get the government that you deserve.
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Westminister's response........crickets.
Perhaps they will get a clap!
Crickets, the sound of Welsh entrepreneurship
well, that didnât age well, did it
It's great being poorer and having restricted freedom of movement. It's well worth it for our sovereignty.