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  • čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
  • This Alienware M16 with RTX 4080 is very impressive in many ways--but far from perfect, especially from a software perspective. This is a cut down version of the full livestream available here: www.youtube.co... In today's video, we'll be testing out the Alienware M16 by unboxing, benchmarking it with Timespy, Cinebench R23, display test brightness, nits, contrast, flex test, and more! You can find links to buy all RTX 4000 series laptops on my 2023 Gaming Laptop Ranking List: listium.com/@G...
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    00:00 - Intro to Unboxing of the Alienware M16
    01:11 - Alienware M16 Unboxing
    04:18 - M16 bottom panel removal
    06:14 - M16 interior overview
    10:32 - Size Comparison of the Alienware M16 to the Asus Strix G18
    11:26 - M16 Keyboard Overview
    13:00 - Alienware M16 Startup and Setup
    13:42 - Alienware M16 Port Selection and Exterior Design Overview
    16:25 - Alienware Command Centre Introduction (spoiler: it’s still bad…)1
    18:08 - Spyder Display Check for the 16” 16:10 240Hz QHD Display
    28:04 - Fixing the CPU performance in Cinebench R23 Testing - i9-13900HX
    39:23 - Comprehensive BIOS Overview Alienware M16
    45:57 - Alienware M16 Cinebench R23 10-minute Test - i9-13900HX
    50:43 - Timespy Results for M16 with i9-13900HX and RTX 4080
    54:55 - Best Alternatives to Alienware M16
    58:23 - Screen side-by-side Comparison between Alienware M16 and Asus Strix G18
    01:00:23 - Alienware M16 Speaker Test
    01:04:46 - Alienware M16 Gameplay For Hogwarts Legacy (incl. Wardrobe Change)
    01:13:50 - Alienware M16 Final Thoughts (i9-13900HX+4080

Komentáře • 160

  • @j.anthony1350
    @j.anthony1350 Před rokem +18

    If Alienware won’t give you the slim brick they should at least give you the option to purchase it or upgrade it when making your purchase

    • @JavierEnriqueRoquebert
      @JavierEnriqueRoquebert Před rokem +1

      The brick is ridiculous. I found some third party ones, but then I’m risking my $4000 laptop :/ Almost bought the x16 just because of that huge brick.

    • @cytroyd
      @cytroyd Před rokem +6

      Just dont look at it.

    • @Garueri
      @Garueri Před rokem

      the issue is carrying it...@@cytroyd

    • @justabeardedguythatisahero9848
      @justabeardedguythatisahero9848 Před rokem +1

      ​@@JavierEnriqueRoquebertwhy did you hi for the Alienware instead of the msi titan or the lenovo legion ?

    • @JavierEnriqueRoquebert
      @JavierEnriqueRoquebert Před rokem

      @@justabeardedguythatisahero9848 Dell Support

  • @johnnywong83
    @johnnywong83 Před rokem +4

    Since you tested the Alienware M16 and the Legion Pro 7i. Which one would you pick between the two?

    • @jimmorrison4ever529
      @jimmorrison4ever529 Před 10 měsíci

      I had one of the new Legion 9i and the ONLY thing it was good for was gaming and even then on regular balanced mode those fans run like crazy. It you wanted to alt-tab out of a game and watch something on CZcams good luck because there’s a loading time. Nearly a 5 thousand dollar laptop I ended up returning after 1 week of use. Never again will I get anything Lenovo

  • @wolfisft
    @wolfisft Před rokem +8

    Interesting how similar or slightly worse X16 will perform, and whether the display will also be 300+ nits or actually better

  • @ragnnohab
    @ragnnohab Před 10 měsíci +2

    If you are adding more SSDs to this something I found out is the laptop won't boot completely unless all the screws are done in. The chassis lights will turn on for a minute then the laptop will power down.

  • @asuchemist3371
    @asuchemist3371 Před rokem +2

    Wish the ssd cover was included on all the slots.

  • @JoshCravesTech
    @JoshCravesTech Před rokem +7

    I tested two Alienware M15 R7’s and they also had an artificial wattage limit in place (65w). Can’t believe their command center is still this bad…

    • @sabeelshaikh3759
      @sabeelshaikh3759 Před rokem

      Ohh yours the g15 bios mod guy no?

    • @JoshCravesTech
      @JoshCravesTech Před rokem

      @@sabeelshaikh3759 yep!

    • @sabeelshaikh3759
      @sabeelshaikh3759 Před rokem

      Awesome video man

    • @JoshCravesTech
      @JoshCravesTech Před rokem

      @@sabeelshaikh3759 thank you!!

    • @taupangnang1245
      @taupangnang1245 Před rokem +1

      Rather than the chassis new design and new components
      I think people more happy when they n
      Know this year Alienware do some fixing with the command center things lol

  • @g8la263
    @g8la263 Před rokem +3

    Maybe undervolting will be available if speedstep or dynamic tuning is disabled in bios?

  • @Jalalaburas1979
    @Jalalaburas1979 Před rokem +3

    New Bios came out , as of yesterday alien command center can tinker with cpu voltage and under voltage , GPU over clock etc , also it no longer hangs and launches by itself when you power on the labtop .

  • @jabbahiggs7039
    @jabbahiggs7039 Před rokem +2

    Are both HDMI and DP video ports connected directly to dGPU?

  • @TheSilverKnight
    @TheSilverKnight Před 9 měsíci +1

    The Ryzen version of this laptop only has one 2230 on the left side

  • @ivanbrezovec5113
    @ivanbrezovec5113 Před rokem +1

    great review, can you please tell me which model of the laptop is in the background on the table?

  • @shadowform1264
    @shadowform1264 Před rokem +3

    i'll pick this one!

  • @ruiyisu
    @ruiyisu Před rokem +1

    Just curious if your alienware M16 makes a electrical noise underneath the logo while charging? I have this problem on my new M16 so I feel a little anxious. The sound is faint and requires the ear to nearly lean against the keyboard to hear it, but sometimes it becomes very noticeable. But there was no noise when I turned it off and charge it or only used battery mode.

  • @CrossingRubicon
    @CrossingRubicon Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hey Brandon,
    I just bought an Alienware m16 laptop that has lower specifications. It has a 13th Gen Intel Core i7 13700HX Processor and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070. With this laptop, it has a 165 Hz, and which type of gaming monitor should I buy? Should I buy a gaming monitor with speakers that comes with a Thunderbolt 4.0, USB Type C Port, or Display Port connectivity? Should I buy a gaming monitor that has 165 Hz and above?
    Thank you in advance for all your help, and I look forward to your reply.
    Sincerely,
    Kaushal

    • @drini9087
      @drini9087 Před 2 měsíci

      If the screen isn't big enough or good enough for you, then yeah go for one.

    • @CrossingRubicon
      @CrossingRubicon Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@drini9087
      Thank you for letting me know.

    • @drini9087
      @drini9087 Před 2 měsíci

      @@CrossingRubicon
      Also if you buy a monitor, make sure it is at least 144hz refresh rate, at least 1440p resolution, IPS panel or OLED panel, 300 cd/m^2 brightness and 100% sRGB colour

  • @kranorzor
    @kranorzor Před rokem +1

    is there a 0 db mode (if yes they kick in immediately after watching a youtube video for example?) fans are quieter that on the scar 18 asus (considering it has 4 fans compared to 3 of the scar 18 ) ? thanks 👍

  • @pallabdas507
    @pallabdas507 Před rokem +2

    Please do the Alienware x16

  • @ajo12Oba
    @ajo12Oba Před rokem +2

    Do you think its possible to clean the fans on this machine without taking the whole motherboard apart? Thanks for the review

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem

      Vacuum and then air can to blow remaining dust out. If you can, try to hold the fan with your finger so it doesnt spin fast when using air can.

  • @JunjieChen-nj2bx
    @JunjieChen-nj2bx Před rokem +1

    Thank you for sharing this video! Do you mind testing the wattage of PD charging?

  • @kny1701
    @kny1701 Před měsícem

    how do i get xtu settings to stop resetting after restart. I have the m16 4080 i9 13900hx as well.

  • @dlaroc
    @dlaroc Před rokem +1

    Wow i cant believe theres a 4060 laptop for over 2,000 dollars. CRAZY

  • @christianweyandt4368
    @christianweyandt4368 Před rokem +1

    Any idea what DDR5 speeds the M16 will accept? Intel says the processor can handle 5600mhz but Dell is only offering 4800mhz. Are there any bios settings that can confirm increased clock speeds? I ordered the laptop based on this video thank you!

    • @KureyonSoloCarry
      @KureyonSoloCarry Před 9 měsíci

      im using gskill ddr5 32gb 5600 on this,. Plug and play no need tinkering

  • @simplehuman4295
    @simplehuman4295 Před rokem +1

    Can you please make a review video for the new ALIENWARE COMMAND CENTRE revision is it any better and faster upon booting up than the older version....also please also review the new g15

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      I went over that in this video, but that will br in my full review of the m16. I have ordered G16

    • @Luca_
      @Luca_ Před rokem +1

      @@GizmoSlipTechwhen is your g16 arriving? My comes at first of march (I life in germany)

  • @alechernandez5506
    @alechernandez5506 Před rokem +3

    I’m not sure if I should get the m18 or the x16. I think they’re both awesome! I would primarily be using it for music production

    • @JavierEnriqueRoquebert
      @JavierEnriqueRoquebert Před rokem

      I was in the same boat. Ended up going for a maxed out m16 instead of the m18 or x16, because of availability. I wouldn’t have gotten the x16 before my upcoming trip :( Honestly my biggest gripe with this model is the HUGE charger

    • @bachatas809
      @bachatas809 Před rokem +1

      For music production you know the best is 💻 pro 😂

    • @alechernandez5506
      @alechernandez5506 Před rokem +2

      @@bachatas809 I’m not a fan of Mac. The Alienware has been doing excellent

    • @Garueri
      @Garueri Před rokem

      lol buy a mac

    • @alechernandez5506
      @alechernandez5506 Před rokem

      @@Garueri I ended up getting it, I love it. I personally don’t like MacOS I think it’s horrid compared to windows or Linux

  • @besomewheredosomething

    All my high-end Alienware's have boosted higher and held the boost.

  • @secuderk
    @secuderk Před rokem +1

    if you lift it you will trigger laptop mode, that's why your PL1&PL2 turned into 55 and 68 when you were testing Cinebench R23

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      Woah, seriously? Where did you find that out?

    • @secuderk
      @secuderk Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech i checked by hwinfo also, when I lifted it, PL1&2 will change btw i found they set laptop mode=dc mode same powerlimit

    • @RetroJaysFTW
      @RetroJaysFTW Před rokem

      I'm sorry, what do you mean by "lift"? I have this same laptop and want to fix the underwhelming CPU perf.

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      @@RetroJaysFTW he means an accelerometer inside the laptop detects the laptop was physically moved and reinserts power limits, i believe

    • @secuderk
      @secuderk Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech yes, just put on desk and PL1&2 should be 185w at balance mode

  • @danmararteta
    @danmararteta Před 8 měsíci

    my m16 i7 13700k only peak at 117w and on average of 100w even if I use intel XTU and set the max voltage to 150/165/175 watts. at 100w the temperature is already at 100c.

  • @gustavomarques8937
    @gustavomarques8937 Před rokem

    Hello.. can someone clarify a doubt for me? I'm from Brazil and will be in Seattle for a few days next month. Would I be able to acquire an Alienware model in physical stores (like Best Buy) or just on the Dell website?

  • @z6316
    @z6316 Před rokem

    Should I get this with the 4090 or the Razer blade 16 with 4090?

  • @realMarleyMarrow
    @realMarleyMarrow Před rokem +1

    Hey, I was looking around to see what the laptop body/chassis is made of but couldn't find anything. Is it plastic or metal?

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      Metal for most of it, rear end thing is plastic. Keyboard deck is also plastic.

    • @realMarleyMarrow
      @realMarleyMarrow Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech Thanks!

  • @Sad_Goose
    @Sad_Goose Před rokem

    Asus Scar 16 VS Alienware M16? (4090)
    What to choose and why?

  • @principenole223
    @principenole223 Před 8 měsíci

    This one or a zephyrus m16 (2023) i9 13900H and rtx 4070?

  • @yslomr
    @yslomr Před 9 měsíci

    Hi, I just discovered your channel. Which one of these 4 options would you choose if you were me? Dec. Asus Rog G16 Rtx4060 FHD 512 GB for $1400, Asus Rog G16 Rtx4060 2K QHD 1 TB for $1650, Alienware M16 Rtx4070 2K QHD for $ 1900, Dell G16 Rtx4060 2K QHD 512 GB.

  • @yevheniibatiievskyi
    @yevheniibatiievskyi Před rokem +1

    Spend +$3k and start to fix all the problems with software by yourself - this is DELL experience

  • @marcusnogueira1787
    @marcusnogueira1787 Před rokem

    Great video!! But it really bugged me about having a mouse on the right side of the notebook, does it really get too hot?

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem

      Not super hot, but if you are in a already hot environment, like a house without AC it could be a bother

  • @dannyberry8725
    @dannyberry8725 Před rokem

    -The power key flashes between different colors while charging. When solid color means the battery is full. You can also customize the colors of full, charging, and low within AWCC.
    -Mini DP will come in handy for anyone with VR, which the G18 does not have.
    -You moved the laptop during the Cinebench test which kicked in protections for thinking the laptop may have been dropped during the first test and when running the 10 min test when the power dropped into the 60's. Your fault, not the laptop's fault. See, you got over 30K when you left the laptop alone.
    -Don't think you will notice that much of a difference in the screen brightness unless you run games in HDR or are using the laptop outside in direct sunlight.
    -There is one helluva delay between the audio in the game and when it comes through on the stream when you were talking to Prof. Weasley. Got better when talking to Prof. Ronen.

    • @xofox_studio
      @xofox_studio Před rokem

      it will be better if you include the timestamps too

    • @micha8469
      @micha8469 Před rokem

      Well, don't excuse the mediocre display. This is hella expensive device and it has a display of a medium-tier laptop. Period. That's sad. For that price, it should be better.

  • @rorod3123
    @rorod3123 Před rokem

    Have you able to Un-gray out the over volt in BIOS?

  • @cMYui-vz5ty
    @cMYui-vz5ty Před rokem

    I notice Alienware use 1R X16 RAM.
    Could you check what is the ram module use on ASUS Strix?

  • @killernp1317
    @killernp1317 Před rokem

    Are you gonna do a review of the MSI Raider ge78 with the 4090. Almost ready to buy but I wanna see some reviews

  • @hareshharjani4717
    @hareshharjani4717 Před rokem +1

    Bro, we need a Corsair Voyager
    Review

  • @ankithkodlapur2682
    @ankithkodlapur2682 Před rokem

    Have u heard any news about the 2023 g14s?

  • @lipadlakwatsa3411
    @lipadlakwatsa3411 Před 9 měsíci

    Hi! What are the specs of the ssd storage pls.

  • @ytac3900
    @ytac3900 Před rokem

    gpu temp is great but the cpu temp is horrible, Although the cooling structure looks different. But actually not different with x17 r2..

  • @bensterWasHere
    @bensterWasHere Před rokem +1

    Cpu temps hit 94-100 during your hogwarts test

  • @vzuzukin
    @vzuzukin Před rokem

    Are there two memory DIMM slots or one slot and one soldered ram stick?

  • @PlayGameToday
    @PlayGameToday Před rokem

    Where I can purchase M16?

  • @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE
    @NANO-SERWIS.MAREK-DASZKE Před 10 měsíci

    I tried to fix alienware X16 error Led blink 2 red 8 blue.
    No screen 😂😂😂
    This is bad construction and No documentation to fix mainboard.

  • @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis
    @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis Před 9 měsíci

    better gpu temps than the g18, faster ram, better imo

  • @Smart_boy2001
    @Smart_boy2001 Před rokem

    Are all fans spins at 6000RPM in turbo mode ?

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem

      For the testing, I typically use max fan profile.

  • @manumoret2049
    @manumoret2049 Před rokem

    Waiting for the Alienware M18 4090, must be a beast😆

    • @Garueri
      @Garueri Před rokem

      sad its 50% of a desktop version

  • @TectonicLord
    @TectonicLord Před rokem

    When will the Scar 16 video come out?

  • @PhillyAvGeek
    @PhillyAvGeek Před rokem

    I miss my A51

  • @anibalhuneeus
    @anibalhuneeus Před rokem

    Does this one have coilwhine? (unline the G18).
    Also it seems this is a better performance than the G18 but with an inferior CPU... what's your take on this, better cooling?

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +3

      I have not noticed any coilwhine so far... GPU seems better cooled. The CPU seems about the same/maybe slightly worse cooling. Hard to say for sure without testing them exactly the same.

    • @anibalhuneeus
      @anibalhuneeus Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech thanks! So overall which one would you choose between those 2?

  • @MAB-ih6iw
    @MAB-ih6iw Před rokem

    How about Cinebench 23 core i7 13700HX ??

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      Check my omen 17x review. I had that processor in that laptop. Thermals will be different from laptop to laptop, but the performance should be in the same ballpark

    • @MAB-ih6iw
      @MAB-ih6iw Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech Thanks for mention it.🔥🔥

  • @Blizzard1990
    @Blizzard1990 Před rokem

    Здравствуйте подскажите пожалуйста а есть смысл брать Alienware M17 R5 amd 6900hx 3080 155W хороший ноутбук? Сильно шумит? Нужен ваш совет. Есть сомнения что там блок питания на 240W.

  • @sunrisenight2771
    @sunrisenight2771 Před rokem +11

    In india 4080 series laptop will be launched after 5 months 😂

    • @jellybeangaming4297
      @jellybeangaming4297 Před rokem +2

      Really so when will 4060 and 4050 launch ?

    • @sunrisenight2771
      @sunrisenight2771 Před rokem +2

      @@jellybeangaming4297 4060 and 4050 are not worth, due to low vram, currently u must buy min 12 gb so that you can play for next 5 years smoothly with high graphics.

    • @jellybeangaming4297
      @jellybeangaming4297 Před rokem +3

      @@sunrisenight2771 no I am just asking for knowledge purpose plz tell any guesses?

    • @ahmedzain5720
      @ahmedzain5720 Před rokem +5

      @@sunrisenight2771 bruh 8gb vram is more than enough for FHD or even QHD gaming. Upcoming 10 years

    • @sunrisenight2771
      @sunrisenight2771 Před rokem +2

      @@ahmedzain5720 latest hogwart legacy game with high graphics takes 9.5 gb. And if you want to play game with low graphics than its your choice bcos game makers are trying hard to make graphics look real and awesum.

  • @tyree0719
    @tyree0719 Před rokem

    Just bought it is the 13900hx supposed to be in the 90 degrees range ?

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem +1

      It is “safe” by intel standards. Reduce temps by increasing fans or lowering CPU power limits if you want lower temps and slightly less performance

    • @tyree0719
      @tyree0719 Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech just wanted to buy something that I didn’t have to mess with while also having great customer service and warranty.

    • @ZoneTan10
      @ZoneTan10 Před rokem

      With most laptops if u want them for life you have to set settings to “your” daily use. I overclock when I game and I change it back when I am browsing. I expect 5 years+ from this.

  • @yash10797
    @yash10797 Před rokem

    Where is alienware x16

  • @bentsaSM
    @bentsaSM Před rokem +1

    Этот обзор был же на трансплантации)

  • @kimdahyun2893
    @kimdahyun2893 Před 11 měsíci

    With these kind of temps laptop would probably toast in a year or so…no thanks

  • @tom123216
    @tom123216 Před rokem +1

    Very disappointed with the display

  • @skryptec
    @skryptec Před rokem

    Looks like buttcoins didn’t work out for you. I knew Bitcoin was a bad investment and stayed away. Laughed my ass off the other night when one of your new vids popped up in my recommended. Glad to have you back though. Hope you didn’t get burned badly on crypto. I always enjoyed your tech reviews the best.

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem

      Didnt get burned too bad. My stuff has actually gone up like 50% in the last 6 weeks. But my plan was always to continue working.

  • @richmahogany1710
    @richmahogany1710 Před rokem

    "i like when manufacturers keep their control software lightweight"
    i would advise you to never install the asus armoury software or you might have a stroke

    • @GizmoSlipTech
      @GizmoSlipTech  Před rokem

      Never had a problem with armory crate.

    • @richmahogany1710
      @richmahogany1710 Před rokem

      @@GizmoSlipTech Oh man. I just installed it to configure my keyboard, it would only report the battery level like every 3rd time I'd checked it. Aside from that the function itself as was alright it was more the nature of the installation. Open your task manager and there's like 6 distinct processes running, go to your windows services and there was 4+ services, task scheduler had some entries, it installed folders in 6 separate locations throughout programdata, program files, appdata, root, all with vague names that couldn't identify it as related to armory. It installed various functions as separate "devices" in device manager. On top of that, the files/folders and text inside the app itself was riddled with typos and translation errors. Took me about half an hour of searching to completely clean uninstall all traces of it. All this for a bloody keyboard. It just seemed so amateur and bloated. Spread throughout my entire system like a virus. I would have expected this from a $30 wireless keyboard on alibaba from some unknown chinese company, but not from Asus.

  • @sachinmajotra9665
    @sachinmajotra9665 Před rokem

    Day 1717239th of waiting for the unboxing of scar/m 16.

  • @AidenFord
    @AidenFord Před 10 měsíci

    Wait! I thought we couldn’t upgrade the ram because it’s welded!!!

  • @tornadocapoeira
    @tornadocapoeira Před rokem

    They done price rise today to 3200 hahahahahahahahahahhaha

    • @ajo12Oba
      @ajo12Oba Před rokem

      Its back to the initial price

  • @Rapunzel879
    @Rapunzel879 Před rokem

    Pulled the trigger on a ROG Strix 18. Alienware (and Razer, and MSI) is overpriced IMO.

  • @KyokushinNidan
    @KyokushinNidan Před rokem

    Way to destroy a perfectly good laptop with electric static discharge!

  • @timviei
    @timviei Před rokem +3

    Garbage flipped motherboard. Thank you for the video, not buying. Piece of crap.

    • @kevingonzalez9592
      @kevingonzalez9592 Před rokem +9

      It's actually really good

    • @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis
      @fuckyoutubrforchangingthis Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@kevingonzalez9592that un fuckable motherboard is wack asf tho. too hard to repair by yourself and too $$$$$ to shop repair just thermal paste. which makes it NOT worth anything.

  • @Cccoast
    @Cccoast Před rokem

    Too bad it has such a crap screen.

  • @altamashparwaiz2097
    @altamashparwaiz2097 Před rokem

    Never buy a gaming laptop unless absolute necessary. You can build a decent pc for that price which can pull out more performance and gives you room for upgrades. I am personally owner of gaming laptop and fedup with constant dismantling and re assembling everytime i need to move be it for work or game. also its heavy
    Planning to get new protable laptop soon

    • @besomewheredosomething
      @besomewheredosomething Před rokem +3

      Do you want your gaming machine to be portable; check. Do you want a workstation that is portable; check. Do you want high performance within a constrained power envelope; check. I don't agree with "absolutely necessary" and desktops have their own downsides. I could just as easily take your comment and say; don't buy a computer unless it is absolutely necessary.

    • @altamashparwaiz2097
      @altamashparwaiz2097 Před rokem

      @@besomewheredosomething it all comes down to ease of use and how much you travel for me i dont travel much except for my office and home.