60+ Journalism Profs Demand Investigation into Controversial NYT Article Alleging Oct. 7 Mass Rape
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A group of more than 60 journalism professors has written to The New York Times calling on the paper to commission an independent review of its report that members of Hamas committed widespread sexual violence on October 7. Numerous media outlets, as well as some of the paper’s own staff, have raised questions about the December 28 article headlined “Screams Without Words,” reported in part by a freelance Israeli journalist who had liked multiple posts on social media advocating for violence against Palestinians. The Times has even published subsequent reporting undercutting some of the key elements of the article, which was used by Israeli leaders and Western allies as justification for the brutal military campaign in Gaza that had already killed tens of thousands of Palestinians up to that point. “It was very troubling to professors of journalism to see such a shoddy article be published without a retraction or an investigation,” says Rutgers media studies professor Deepa Kumar, one of the signatories, author of Islamophobia and the Politics of Empire. She also says that as an academic, she is troubled by the mainstream media’s depiction of student encampments as places of hate and violence. “For those of us who have been to these encampments, we know that the atmosphere there is peaceful until the police show up and start to create chaos. … These are fantastic spaces of learning.”
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Terrible lies with terrible consequences for innocent people.
nazis propaganda tactics
@@MS-gk6cl indeed.
The damage has already been done.
True
The only lies are Islamic and pagan.
Whatever Israel accuses others of doing, Israel is doing. according to history.
“Accuse others of that which you are doing “ - Josef Goebbels
Masters of propoganda
Yes.
That's exactly what I have ben observing.
Hamasniks filmed their massacre, there's nothing to dispute. "According to history" - that's the reasoning and argumentative of a moron.
Called "PROJECTION" - projecting ONE'S PERSONAL CRIME on the a,SCAPEGOAT !!
Give credit to GrayZone for debunking the NYT baseless story.
Did he? It actually doesnt matter what he did, People read the NYT, not him.
I try to call it out, and my Comments wont be published. Its sad.
@@Sunaki1000 Do not worry. The NYT end is here. everybody sees them as a biased genocidal peace of shit.
cry hard @@Sunaki1000
great max and aron from grayzone
@@taherabunama4559 No I mean I was expressing sadness, not agreement.
In germany there are still Persons belifing in the 40 beheaded ones.
People dont read corrections, People consume media on the Side.
Calling them out only does things if its done in a big impossible to miss Way.
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NYT needed a filmmaker, because they needed fiction, not reality.
Actually the pictures used by the Israeli's for the rape victims were old pictures of raped kurdish women. Talk about cynical.
" The NYT is a shi**y militarist propaganda rag that somehow wound up setting the news agenda for the entire western world."
@@azalia423 That literally doesn't change the main comment and it's accuracy.
“The biggest insult to the memory of the Holocaust is not denying it but using it as an excuse to commit genocide against the Palestinian people.” - Norman Finkelstein.
Well said
Respect to the incredible Norman Finkelstein!
If only it were a true statement. Hamas and Palestinians (Arabs) declared war on Israel Oct. 7th. What I hear loud and clear is that you condone rape, murder, racism and burning babies in ovens. Your hatred of the Jews is shining brightly. It is a miracle that a genocide has been waged against the Gaza people and yet their population has grown every year. Amazing! I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
What? No one is using the halocaust. If Jews wanted to they would expose thousands of years of Muslims killing them and and torturing them. You people are so sick seriously and completely uneducated. You sound just like many before.
@@sylvias1966Absolutely, a man of integrity 👏 👌
Thanks Deepa Kumar for speaking up
Finally Journalism professors speakbup about the NYT and it's lies
The west and usa unequivocally surrendered their sovereignty to israel. They are
occupied and caged long long before Felisten. Only brave Gazans are still resisting.
"Those who do not move, do not notice their chains.”
― Rosa Luxemburg.
No wonder you and your friends always lose. At least you can cry over Rafah.
@@PMSPauline More evil Israeli Pro Genocide comments......very sick Pauline
@@PMSPauline Did your family support the Genocide in Europe too??
Oh goodness @PMSPauline ... lies are not tolerated by adults... the fact is Isreal is a military junta with a frontman... & the junta lies!
Shut down the New York Times!! REAL journalists need to speak up and shut this place down.
Yes indeed- that’s exactly what Hitler did to publications that didn’t agree with him. You guys and the Nazis- birds of a feather flock together.
No real journalists work there.
You sound just like the MAGA crowd. SMH
Stop reading main stream media
" The NYT is the world's most destructive propaganda outlet not because it publishes giant ham-fisted whoppers but because it appears trustworthy. This lets the well crafted propaganda slide into people's minds, undetected and without resistance." Caitlin Johnstone
I feel like a fool. I believed that article. It messed with my emotions so badly, I cried every day for weeks. Many people use that story as justification for any and all violence against Palestinian civilians. The New York Times, once again, is complicit in genocide. It has a long history -- from the Ukraine famine that killed millions, to fear mongering about accepting Jewish refugees in WWII, to its minimal coverage of many genocides in Africa and Asia over the years.
Really? You cried everyday for weeks? No one does that.
For real information on this ongoing horror in Gaza you need to check The Greyzone= Max Blumenthal/ Aaron Mate, Chris Hedges. They are the best independent journalists who have covered Israel/Palestine conflict for decades.
@@Tulacloneyes, same here.....I am older than the state of Israel. How can there be a brutal, illegal occupation of 75 years with no end......and now this 7 month slaughter of
innocents, watched in real time wirh no end!
We can NEVER UNSEE these horrors.
It's heartbreaking, haunting, disgusting, immoral and .....never ending! Yes I cry....
With frustration at our corrupt governments on the US and UK who are complicit. The world says NO....but they ignore us.
However.....
We know we are on the right side of history!
Research "attrocity propaganda" so the hashbarians don't caught you with your pants down again.
I don’t blame you for believing the lies. I witnessed how EVERY media outlet went full throttle with the atrocity propaganda. I think it’s a good thing that there are people waking up to the truth, but I’m not sure if it’s happening fast enough to stop the ongoing slaughter
Grayzone continues to be the journalistic gold standard exposing these corporate institutions as dangerous liars
I'm not a journalist (but also not a dummy) and I SECOND this request. This is shameful and they need to do a full investigation and print it. I can't even take the NYT seriously anymore
How can one believe anything Israel says?
You just have to be a white supremacist and be unaware of your racism , and BAM , you are pro-Israel .
Non-white people who are pro-Israel = successfully programed people , who's views are a result of life long indoctrination via propaganda in the media (even the movies and TV shows)
Here is an example : Mission Impossible movies, that make Russians and Arabs the bad guys. White people are always the ethical and moral people.
how can you believe anything Hamas says?
Um… don’t
@@luismagno34 When will you stop killing children?
@@luismagno34would you believe the oppressed or the oppressor?
This should really be investigated.
That’s definitely BLOOD LIBEL! NYT has blood on their hands
I doubt if they care. They knew it was a lie when they published it.
@@pao6097 Zionist $$$
F thé NYT
Along with all the other news agencies pushing lies!
Recently they published a falsified article on antidepressants in the face of new studies debunking the article's sources and exposing the immerging data on the dangers of AD's.
NYT had fked its believers
Shame on NYT good of Grayzone Electric Intifada and Mondowriss digging out this important truth
Prof. D. Kumar is a decent human being with impartial judgement. Conversely; NYT lost its credibility including other press.
This story was written by a filmmaker, Anat Schwartz. She was hired to make a lie sounds believable.
The lady admits that there was sexual violence, just not “enough” for her to care
@@DM-tw6vd Not enough to find any evidence of a single one via thorough investigation by Israeli media outlets that didn't lead back to IDF sources so the claim of "mass" SA stated in the article and people who cite it for propaganda are the ones who should be answering as to why they made these claims uncritically to support murdering children on the thousands?
-filmmaker- ❌
*Izr@eli Propagandist* ✔
Also it was mentioned she was part of Intelligence. So, psy-ops.
@@DM-tw6vd ...The NYT article's byline said : "Hamas Weaponizes Sexual Violence"... and it goes on to talk of a campaign of sexual violence.
These are the lies and perhaps a basis for the genocide on the Palestinian people... as Deepa explained.
Do pay attention.
Im glad to see Americans making their representatives accountable
Many are too pickled in Aipac $$$ to hear their constituents.
No one has been held to account. Your propaganda is weak.
@@vapormissile no mine was jus hopin for the best
Credit Grayzone.
Thank you for covering this story, but in this and previous pieces on the topic;
Democracy Now has repeatedly failed to credit those who first broke this story. The Intercept did contribute, but it was originally broken by Electronic Intifada, Mondoweiss, and The Grayzone.
Please adhere to the journalistic integrity that this piece so beautifully extolls.
Not only failed to credit but not covering it all when it was being debunked months ago.
Aaron Matè, Max Blumenthal ,Ali Abunimah...credit where it belongs.
By "controversial article" do you mean "straight forward fake news"?
New York time is part of pro Israel Zionist propaganda network. Hiding Israeli atrocities and whitewashing Israel crimes is their aim and game.
She's just another mainstream hack.
Yes, the NYT demonstrated they were just hacks with this article
I know - it's so hard for lefties to take down their lodestar - the NYT.
They originally echoed the claims in December. I think that’s why they tip
toe around this story. Democracy Now is a shell of its former self. I lost most of my respect during their handling of Russiagate. They can’t even mention the Grayzone or Aaron Mate who produced for them for years
So much propaganda
I am not surprised as propaganda has been in the fabric of the United States. The documentary "Bush War" produced by Frontline PBS shows propaganda at its finest.
@@brucemcglasson
NOT
@@brucemcglasson You'd be well advised to come to grips with what the world thinks: 1) As soon as zionists open their mouth, they lie. 2) EVERY accusation a zionist throws your way is in fact a confession.
@@brucemcglassonwhatever zio. The world won’t forgive Israel and it’s supporters. One day all of israhells lie will fall apart and you’ll see yourself on the wrong side of history. Till then, have fun repeating hasbara propaganda. Free Palestine 🇵🇸✊🏽
At least the world is waking up to Israeli tactics
In 60s students change course of brutal vietnam war and the horrendous apartheid apartheid in South Africa.
Apartheid fell much later, I think in 1992. But you are right in that there were protests and boycotts against it everywhere. In my city we picketed a gas station every Friday but now I can't even remember what oil company it was. The ANC had people traveling around the US visiting colleges and running workshops. Everyone was welcome so although not a student I attended the workshops at Fisk University where every single workshop I sat in on drummed this one statement into our heads and it's still true today : THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE DEMANDS CITIZEN IGNORANCE. That's why Democracy Now is so precious.
Historically, every student protest where excessive police force was used, the protestors and their cause are vindicated and actions of the authorities are seen as abhorrent.
God bless them and protect them
Mainstream media and investigative journalism don't go together.
Mainstream media and honesty doesn’t go together either. They have to serve their biggest donors like politicians too. But the good news is, we don’t have to purchase their subscriptions.
The two are basically the ultimate contradiction in our modern times.
Thank you Deepa for the truth
Well done Deepa for standing up and challenging this low rag called the NYT.
Great to know about the journalism professors’ action! Nice integrity! Too bad university administrators don’t have much integrity these days!
Universities are heavily funded by some legitimately sounding (but dubiously acting) NGOs/Corporatocracies.
Thank you Democracy Now crew. THANK YOU AMY GOODMAN
Good job journalists! All professors and lawyers also have to stand up and voice out.
I was struck by some of those female hostages who were released commented how well treated & respected they were by Hamas, given the circumstances. One Israeli even wrote them a "thank you" letter!
I agree, I heard them talk too and they were treated with care and respect
This is why the *sr**l* government put down rules preventing the released hostages from talking to the press. They justified those rules with some mental health concern BS. Similarly they put down rules that Palestinians can't be seen celebrating their own release in public, many of whom were arrested again anyway. What a sick society.
Respect for Ms Deepa for being honest and upfront. Thank you.
The WORLD is WATCHING YOU and with YOU FREE FREE PALESTINE NOW Thank you 🌹
In our millions and our billions we are all Palestinian 🇵🇸🇮🇪
It's a Sisyphean Battle!!! It must be fought!!!!
@@valhalla4752 The ZioNazi terrorist state that squats and occupies palestinian lands does receive plenty of aid from the United States and many other countries year after year.
No, we are not. 9/11. We are not Palestine, nor do we share the Muslim belief.
Free Palestine
@@hanaaabed3662 How do you free a country that is not a country? It was created by Bristish colonialism. There is no such thing as Palestian. They are Arabs.
Excellent interview- This should be shown to the students in the classroom on media and news literacy.
"Evidence is a legal term" says Pulitzer prize winning journalist. What a sick joke
He said it "smacks of legalism" and he sees his role as "providing information and giving a voice to others".
@@watching99134 lol. If i say what i think his behavior "smacks of" this comment wouldn't go through. The latter quote, ok, weirdest twist on just being a sh*t liar propagandist I've ever heard... It's like they truly think we're stupider than dogs (no offense to dogs, who are unironically moral beings compared to Zs)
This demand from 60 journalists is good news. It should be considered a crime to make defamatory accusations against one person or worse, an entire organization or even a peoples. Falsely accused people can face imprisonment, lynching in the old times and racist discrimination as a group. Also, the New York Times stands for high standards in journalism. If this news outlet refuses to set the record straight in what concerns this extremely damaging article to the Palestinians this would compromise their credibility in a lasting manner. I wonder how many subscribers they’ve lost because of this one article and how many more they will lose if they can’t deliver unbiased reporting from now on.
None, they didn’t lose one subscriber over this article.
I read a few times that other subscribers unsubscribed. I will do so as well if the New York Times doesn’t set the record straight on this article and also if it doesn’t stop to publish Israeli propaganda. I already paid for one year as I did over the last 10 years or so. But I will not renew my subsription if those 2 goals I’m looking for myself are not met by the NYTimes. Democracy Now will get that subscription money from me instead.
I unsubscribed from NYT too. Even the podcasts for free I don’t listen to any longer.
You mentioned that "NYT stands for high standard of Journalism"
Sorry to make you disappointed, they are not, study their lie's from the WMD in Iraq until now, and I'm sure you'll understand their clear bias to the Zionists.
Remember AIPAC is not buying politicians only, they are everywhere.
They lost my subscription.
Keep it up students
You are the future
It’s your right!
Why never any credit to the early debunkers of the story, Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, and Ali Abunimah at the GrayZone and Electronic Intifada? They scooped it; Intercept came as a Johnny-Come-Lately.
Came on to post almost the same comment. Thanks for helping to bring awareness to it!
Because The Gray Zone doesn't mince words and aren't afraid of being critical of the liberal left, so these half-way alternative media don't want to promote them.
I didn't know who first debunked it, thank you for the information!
@@Laurentipia5 People who have been following the story and situation , know to not believe the IDF's claims until you verify them . Israel and the IDF have been lying for 75+ years. Many of those lies have taken root, and most people think it is the "truth" .
here are some
(1) Land without a people, for a people without a land
(2) The Palestinians are not natives, they are recent immigrants and are Arabs
(3) UN charter 181, gave them legal right to the land. In fact the charter was non-binding, and required the consent of the local people . So , without consent, Isreal was breaking international law since 1948, and they did it with FORCE and with US and British backing. Isreal did not become a legal entity until 1967 with the Oslo Accords.
Those guys are my go to independent journalists. Them and Whitney Webb.
professor Deepa Kumar, Hats Off To you , The Students and Everyone who bravely Stand
For Peace. We all should Stand, not only for Gaza, but Peace For the Whole World.
No More War, Peace and Freedom For All.
“Only the dead have seen the end of war.”
― Plato ----
These people make their living as professional victims. Always showing how hurt they are without a shred of concern for another.
Well said God bless you
They sound like whte Americans when us minorities talk about our rights and reparations
They have done that professionally for centuries, maybe even millenia. Notorious and expected behaviour.
Every victimizer feels like a victim on the inside. It is, in fact, how they justify the victimizing of others.
I AM SO GLAD! there are intelligent people like them who question everything and once again show irrefutable proof of Israel's lies
The Greyzone investigated this and debunked it weeks ago!
VERY Well said, Ms. Kumar!! Please speak MORE!!! ❤
It’s wild that NYT won the Pulitzer Prize for their coverage on Gaza-Israel war
… and have long been considered “the paper of record” 🫤
LOL are you joking???? Just checked and WOW that is crazy sh1t.....
Photos all show Israelis as “victims.” So they won the prize. AlJazeera photogs & journalists were targeted & bombed but that news outlet got the shaft! Two different versions of TRUTH. I side with AlJazeera and the real journalism they provide! 😡
What a bloody travesty.
They also won a Pulitzer in 1930s denying the Ukrainian Holodomor. Doesn’t say much for either the paper or the Pulitzer committee.
This was so refreshing to listen to after all the negativity. It’s a day of hope … journalism is not dead.
Their error was the assumption that NYT has ever been journalism,
We are all Palestinians. Love from Canada.
you mean terriorists
The truth eventually comes out! Unfortunately the damage is done!!! Unfortunately 15000 children are gone!!!😢
Thank you for this analysis. Arresting people for "resisting arrest" works much the way that "stand your ground" laws function. The "policing"--or self-appointed "policing"--person provokes the "target.'" Then, the "policing" person claims to be the target of resistance, or even assault. Trayvon Martin was provoked and then resisted harassment. This resistance became the basis for his murderer to walk free. With police, a peaceful encampment is quickly turned into a "mass resistance of arrest" event by the provocation of the police. Having college presidents play a role in this is despicable. This is also similar to the role of the "picadors" in Spanish bullfighting. Provoking a non-attacking bull to resist harassment and become "the attacker" or the "resistor" justifies their public defeat in the eyes of society. Freedom of speech and assembly on the grounds of an educational institution--in the cause of ending war and the death of civilians--should have the highest bar before "inciting arrest." This bar has not been met. Feeling "uncomfortable" is not even on the scale.
America Israel define courage as preying on those weaker. That should define cowardice
America is owned by Israel.
A compelling argument for why more diversity is needed in positions of power at NYT and other media formats of influence in the U.S.
Thank you for this report.
this is crucial question that should be settled!
Thank you for the truth
Thank you.
TNYT used to be useful to wrap fish, but in the digital version is not useful for that either... 😞
How true!
A million bird cages going without coverage…….
Shame of NYT! Shame of Fox News!
SHAME, HASBRO, SHAME...LOLOLOLOLOLLLL!
The greatest threat to an Empire of lies is the truth!
So sick of the lies coming from the same people over and over again…
Deep Respect to "Rutgers media studies professor Deepa Kumar".
There also needs to be an investigation done into the enactment of the Hannibal Doctrine on October 7.
Diplomacy will work as long as people of good will still exist. Thank goodness we are still free to speak.
Pullizer giving to a liar newspaper. At this point, nothing means anything anymore. What a shame!
Don't forget they got Pulitzer for this kind of 'work'. This is how 'professionalism' looks like nowadays.
The Pulitzer is the Nobel Peace Prize of journalism now it seems...
@@fundidoarrojo269 Yeah, the NYT has ignited a lot of 'peace' with their so-called peaceful work during the last 7 months. Gaza is drowning in their peace.
Disgusting isn't it?
And ppl repeat these lies especially ppl in gov. Its disgusting
The professors should publish the letter. It will greatly help. Innocent People have died and are dying because of these depraved journalists.
Thank You for this opportunity to have your support and the very important dialogue and discussion with Prof. Kumar and the wonderful Students for Supporting Palestinians 🇵🇸✊✌️✌️✌️
There are absolute clear cut criteria that define the professional standards of practices and ethical cods of conduct that underpin professional journalism. I am glad that professors of journalism are FINALLY calling for investigation of what certainly seems a gross violation of these criteria not only by a) the Israeli women who wrote the false allegations of rape for her own personal gain, but also by b) the editors and owners of the various news outlets that published versions of the fabrications.
Integrity and Upholding the truth in a systematic and unbiased manner are core - these standards are essential and expected universal principles shared across professions. They prevent charlatans from doing harm.
Looking forward to an unbiased investigation followed by charges of professional malpractice by those involved. This constant brazen abuse of the truth must stop
excellent interview . Deepa Kumar blessings thanks for your insight .
Respect to Deepa Kumar❤
It's finally nice to see a news outlet that likes to be thorough in its coverage, especially with a calm, cool, and collected professor such as Deepa Kumar.
'Peaceful until the police show up'. Sums up decades of protest.
This was a great segment. Thank you
This is unacceptable by the NYT and investigative journalism. Investigate investigate investigate. Screams without investigation kills journalism
Thanks for the clear headedness and the desire to follow through with showing the biases and dishonesty of the New York Times and other news outlets.
Bravo!
“Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.”
― Vladimir Lenin
Not sure we should be looking to Lenin for a lesson on freedom
Thank you
DEEPA KUMAR THANK YOU FOR BEING REMARKLE & YOUR AWESOMENESS OF TRUTH & DIGNITY
What is none are above the LAW when the BAR Association Judiciary Jural Society Police represent themselves as LAW? Doesn't that place us beneath?
I don't read or subscribe to the NYT, but for years I've opposed those who criticize it for being "biased." It has been known to be legitimate media as opposed to alt-right media devoted to Republican propaganda. And when the NYT made a mistake, or published false stories, they would make a correction and fire those responsible, respectively, while alt-right media does not.
It's really sad that things have changed with regard to reporting on Israel and Gaza. Apparently, the Israeli lobby has considerable influence over the editors and publisher of the NYT (and college presidents, too).
So many don't see that the Netanyahu regime is part of the worldwide, far-right movement that elected authoritarians (Russia, Belarus, Hungary, India, Brazil, Philippines, Trump in the U.S. and possibly Brexiters in the U.K.) who stand for male dominance, are of the majority ethnicity, religion and straight, and want to put minorities, women and LGBTQ in their place.
Excellent. We watch your program regularly and find those quite informative and truthful
We need an in depth documentary of how journalism is used to disseminate war propaganda.
Since I'm too poor to donate for now, I'll just leave a like and a comment!
Publishing lies means that The NYT consider its readers as easy to manipulate !
Thanks professor !
Thank you Deepa!
This interview highlights the beauty and depth of journalism through bringing to life to us a tactful grotesque one sided deep rooted ploy from the so called renowned New York Times. Thank you for the clarity and reminder Professor.
very good job.. journalism still alive in USA👏👏
Why do you think legalists refer to evidence rather than facts?
Because facts require evidence to substantiate them?
This Professor is amazing!!!❤❤❤
Thanks for sharing this information
BRING PEACE make it a TWO STATE NOW Thank you 🌹
Please learn history before you make silly comments.
Excellent
Thank you!
Thank you, Professor Deepa Kumar. Very clear information and brilliant analysis.
Thank God we have social media.
Clear and concise information from the guest.
Bravo Deepa. We need your kind of journalism. Thank you to truth telling journalists.
She needs to be arrested for, Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes, False Reporting and Promoting Genocide. That's the law!
FINALLY!!!