Kate Torches Carter | The Thing (2011) | Fear
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- After entering the ship and destroying the Thing with explosive, Kate has a hunch that the Thing is still alive as Carter and is forced to torch him with a flamethrower.
From The Thing (2011): Kate Lloyd, a palaeontologist, joins a team of scientists in Antarctica where they discover an alien buried in ice. However, things take a turn when the alien escapes and goes on a killing spree.
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Notice how the Cater-thing was hesitant in burning his boss-thing buddy and how he was trying to learn how to drive the truck and accidentally turned on the wipers.
Yeah it was his reluctance to burn the Thing in the ship that made me immediately suspicious. As for the car thing... That's a hard one, as the assimilation of Carter should have allowed the thing to replicate his memories. Not sure what to make of that.
I thought he was already infected in the lobby when he sabotage the flamethrower that didn't killed the 2 headed thing.
connorism69 probably only a peak of his full memories as he got the side of ear wrong of his earrings
i noticed that too, he acted like he didnt know how to start the snowcat
TheYLS lmfao good eye
Her boyfriend?? Must have had a thing for each other in the past. Now, Carter is an old flame..
Lol
😑😑😑😑
I See what you did there
Clever! Lol
Pb sigh
8:53 It's amazing how she throws the flamethrower away as soon as she torched the thing a little bit. Imagine if this were to happen for real. I'm pretty sure everyone would keep burning it until the last drop of fuel is used up to make sure that that thing is truly burnt down.
I think it did run out of fuel then, and that's why she dropped it
i woiuld save some formy self.. notice she stops in her tracks she knows she cannot leave no matter what that the isolation of the place is the only real defence but once the thing learns over time from people going where is the base what happened one will eventually get out in a helicopter so its always up to the last man to stay and die
At 1.40 what is the yellow and blue squares moving about she's looking at
@@zerodarkthirty1045 Dunno it's probably just some mysterious alien thingy that the creators of the movie added to give it a more alien like vibe.
@@kaystephan2610 not 100% sure..but thought I read it somewhere it was the captain of the ship what hid himself in hyper sleep stacious
I like how the thing shouts no as she torches it. If you think about it, that's the only line it ever actually says without pretending to be someone else. It knows it's been caught, it knows she's about to burn it, and all it can do is cry out in anger as it is defeated.
Yeah ikr I loved that but when it just screams “NOO” because what else are you suppose to do. It can’t attack Kate because she had him at flame point
Idk I think it was still imitating him to the last second, the thing itself has no reason to communicate with humans other than to imitate them
But why did the thing kill the other thing and for what?!
@@oderflafrredy2790 it's what they do. The thing only thinks about its own survival, and it will do anything to stay alive, including throwing other things under the bus. Considering it's all one hive organism, it doesn't matter how many die so long as a single cell lives.
@FunkapotamusIf we kinda treat the film as the prequel it's meant to be, then it makes sense that she (in her own story) defeated the Thing. It's not as good at copying humans quite yet, so it makes tons of errors and mistakes. It's only after this film, and leading into the sequel (the original film) that it finally has the advantage since it's learned from its first interaction with humans.
Title of this vid should be: “Kate torches just some guy who’s not her boyfriend.”
Lmao
just some guy more life some thing that's strait from the Oh Hell No planet
some thing*
How can he be her boyfriend? That is truth right there.
Or, Kate torches Thing-Carter
For those who are like me, and thought that Carter was an imitation since he came back to the base, here's something I realized after I Rewatched the movie:
In the scene where Kate and Carter are driving to follow the thing to the spaceship, there's a camera Shot that shows Carter's Earring before Kate asks him "What happened to Lars?"
Later, The Scene at 0:42, Carter is Calling for Kate, Then Hears A Squelching Noise Behind Him then Turns Around. THIS Scene is the last we see of Carter until he shows up when Kate blows up the thing.
With this information, I can properly deduce that: Carter was human ever since he got back to the base, but in that scene where he was calling for Kate, off camera, the thing killed him then imitated him, which is why Kate notices his earring is gone when they get back to the Snowcat.
I mean the movie clearly depicts exactly what you’re saying hence the zoom on his earring every time
@@reubenmanners5209 I know, it's just the first time I watched it, I didn't notice that, and thought that Carter was an imitation the whole time, until I rewatched the movie and I noticed the shot that shows his earring.
I'm sure there was some people who also didn't notice it, and thought the same thing. That's why I wrote this. comment.
Thank you for responding to my comment though I'm glad people read this.
Correct
Went after the guy with the flametrhower first? Ballsy.
@@murkoff1340don't know why you did it for a crap movie. All you did was waste your time.
If the thing ever gets lonely, it can just cut itself in half
How could it be lonely, when each of its billion cells are independent beings.
@@Demowan -And so are OUR cells. But the work together to become a body, which is what the Thing's cells do.
@@denierdev9723 yet unlike ours, it can become several organisms
The movie is totally devoid of any kind of romantic relationships and Kate is never shown or mentioned as having a boyfriend in the film,.. so bad video title.
woooudo i think you miss understood what he or she was saying. the comment is a criticism of this video's misleading title
woooudo I think your missing the point but we'll let that go
The title for this video is so grossly inaccurate that I can’t help but wonder if it was concocted by a politician as they are fond of describing things inaccurately too. It’s a good job there wasn’t an onscreen kiss as the video title could have been exaggerated even more!!!
who gives a damn about her personal life! it is about the story.and the thing and not any one person.
it was a joke
The Thing could've easily broke off into smaller "things" to assimilate her the vent/crawlspace. lol
Nobody seems to have thought about it but, the ufo probably doesn't belong to the thing, it seems perhaps to have imitated an alien member of the ship and gradually killed and assimilate everyone however not knowing how to pilot the ship very well he would have crashed into the pole and coming out outside the spaceship the cold would have forced him to enter a cryogenic stage.
@@stevemendoza4528 stole? because i love this theory? so I not allowed to share it? Your funny, where do you come from?........ are you a troll or just a hater? 💀💀
@@stevemendoza4528 I know that, what's stopping me from sharing it again?
@@stevemendoza4528 once again you imagine things... defined the word seems for me please..... next time reread a little and analyze instead of responding impulsively, you will have to understand that not everyone watches films as if it was the end of the world and so yes I looked at The thing recently what wrong with that?,........ obviously you will take the easy path and just say that I am lying .. my dear friend with a broken ego. 😋
@ARSENIC _ What wrong buddy? Are you not looking for the absolute truth that is yours ?, aren't you trying to prove that I was wrong, to have seen a film from 2011 and 1982 in 2020, explain yourself ? Is your ego still so swollen to keep you from saying sorry i was wrong ?😘
When Cate was in the vent, the thing could just have dispatched a smaller centipede thing into that vent to absorb her.
It is true.I also thought that.
It’s called plot, MC’s usually bathe in it.
Should have start the ship and fly off before killing the girl
It wanted to get to the base first to it could infect more people and it needed someone to confirm that he wasn't the thing otherwise they would know
@lian It could have just transformed into a human or sentient being small enough to fit into the vent. Cate had no useful weapon with her.
For a moment she and The Thing were both causally communicating despite both of them knowing it’s cover was blown. It would’ve been cool if The Carter Thing, knowing and accepting it was going it die, would’ve dropped the act and said some one-liner to her, alien to human. Filtering its final statement through Carter’s personality, it could’ve gave a chuckle and said something like “I almost gotcha” before it was burned.
Maybe, subconsciously the the infected people don't even know if they are the thing or not until the last moment.
That would have been corny, but clever in a way. It does show that Carter is still in there somewhere. That the infected person isn't completely gone.
This must be the absolute dumbest thing I've ever read ever.
That's what I was hoping for and that would have been much better.
“I almost gotcha” it sounds much too human, anthropocentric.
I imagine the Thing as a rational, cold and uncomprehensible alien. Even if its cover being blown, yes it still tried to save itself by trying to instill doubt in Kate, make her reluctant to kill Carter, make her wonder: "What if I'm wrong?", which is the most rational thing to do.
7:57 I like the thing's reaction when she said ,,it was in other ear''.It understood that it had lost.
During that time period it was very recognizable as whether a earing was in your Right or Left ear was a signal about a persons hetero or Homosexual choice. Every younger person knew this.
@@stacylockhart9684 What does this have to do with the movie lol
@@maxonite pointing out why a earing ear choice would be obvious to a woman in the early 80s the time the movie was set.
@@maxonite are you some kind of Woke Headcase man ?
Yo we're still on a scene from a movie about a space alien 😂
This scene overall displays the battle of wits between two different species. You have the humans and the Thing (Alien lifeform). Both face each other not knowing anything about each other. The Thing itself is smart and is able to adapt, but underestimated Kate's intelligence and observations of it's way of life. This is probably because of how easy it was for the Thing to infect and kill everyone earlier. Kate being observant about it's characteristics lead her to be the victor in this battle.
You know Cate was the latest person to face it off. If you are in an exam like others perform before your turn , you gain some kind of observation and knowledge. She is smart yes but also lucky to face Thing as latest person. That's the power of humanity " experience ".
For those wondering about the earring:
we know it can't replicate inorganic matter, so as it assimilates it to form an imitation, inorganic stuff just gets lost in the mesh much like that autopsy of the guy with a titanium bracing for his arm, it got dislodged as the thing replicates him
For Carter-Thing's unfamiliarity with the snowcat. Keep in mind The Thing was still in its early stages imitating human skills. By Outpost 31, it had already assimilated a mechanic and had enough "time behind the wheel." I think human Carter saw Lloyd as *his* girlfriend. When Carter-Thing, he made a plea to 'talk' as though they were a couple.
the thing cannot imitate organisms that contain some pathogen, such as hepatitis, the flu, etc., Kate probably had some virus and the thing could never imitate it, she only tried to kill it, that is the case of the doctor in the 1982 thing, in the moment he is reviving the fat thing he is bitten but he is not infected...
I love how in the other snowcat she just sits there and we don't know what happens to her, kinda like the original with Macready and Childs.
2B or not 2B The Thing(1982) smokes this POS remake
she dies she has no fuel
The Chiles "Thing". Pretty sure Blair Got him.
I think what the scene should've been was 'only' Carter's screams as he was being torched and not included any 'thing' screams as well, that way the outcome would've been more ambiguous with Kate sitting there wondering if she actually did the right thing or not
UniversalLizard sure
But she knew it was a thing because of the missing ear ring.
Coffee Roast
I wonder how uncomfortable it would be to wear a metal earring in Antarctica
yea this, even if the film is plagued with bad cgi, it shouldve done its own thing instead of following the original beat for beat ie the red herring transformation, the self defence kill. What if instead the fillings test happened earlier in the film instead of the last 30 mins of the film, and someone was killed from a misjudgement when they were infact human. What if instead of the alien ship scene that took up 10-15 mins, they instead had a stand off with the remaining survivors of wondering whos actually human, and lars comes out on top with pilot arriving the next day.
UniversalLizard Maybe. But in the original, the alien always made itself known in response to being attacked. Even the Petri dish sample screamed, so why would a full-on human imitation not scream?
One thing I noticed. The Thing never attacks another Thing. Another clue that kate's friend is a Thing is it was struggling to operate the snowmobile
An imitation has all of the memories and abilities as it's original. It is literally the perfect imitation in every way. If the host could do something so could the thing.
@@funnyman8161 apparently no because it would have also instantly known to check the right ear
@@Cracknutter22 Yeah that's why that part of the scene makes no sense. It's so antithetical to the way the movies have shown how it works, it almost suggests he's still human to make such a simple mistake.
Which is... weird. Because they could have just left it open-ended with him no longer having an earring, and skipped the backtracking on what's been established as the principle feature of the antagonist: looking and seeming like someone else. The whole "it can't imitate fillings" thing was actually pretty smart.
2:40 I know I'm supposed to be scared at this scene, but I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous the Sanders-Thing looks like😂😂😂
sometimes less is more, that creature had far too much going on.
seriously, even as a horrifying alien that asshole couldn't emote. fucking garbage scene in a otherwise good movie.
"Blame the studio for this. God I hate CGI mutations. And the audience." With that leaves Sanders-Thing pricelessly hilarious. 🤣
Reminds me of Tomas the tank engine
Wouldn't be so ridiculous if it was just standing in front of you lol
Two things: The Thing grabbing you is an instant kill. It would have tried to assimilate Kate the moment it touched her and even if it saw the grenade it probably would have broken off and tried to attack or save itself. Also, once it was out in the open alone with her there was no need for it to wait because no one is around it is the whole premise of the movie. Don't get caught alone with it because it will not hesitate to assimilate you. Decent movie overall.
It only grabbed her shoe, like WTF
Yes and that means Kate would have been a goner when she went into the room with Juliette much earlier in the movie.
She did the right...THING 😏
Nice...
haHA
Rimshot..
But the THING is, it was really sad
It was the only "THING" she could do.
8:26 Sounds of Carter screaming
8:28 Sounds of Gargichulieters screaming (intelligent spider aliens)
8:30 Sounds of Chuhilidriapocas screaming (aliens with the big limbs and arms they use for walking, it has weird scaly long tentacles with many teeths that looks gross because they vary in size and are placed in random areas of their bodies)
8:33 Sounds of Belcrodri-sehkmet screaming (large species of aliens that have octopus for a head and humanoid bodies with wings fused on their arms with long big feathers)
8:37 Sounds of Hedoxtrickitikiciis screaming (large aliens whose biological properties can stick it’s flesh on its prey, it looks like giant sentient poops with light to dark brown colors)
8:38 Sounds of Behemudia, Behimadia screams (Little aliens with small and long lanky limbs, tentacle limbs and long worm like mouths, this is probably the only species of aliens along with humans to have intelligent life and build a civilization)
8:40 Also the sounds of Belcrodri-sehkmet (they have the distinctive bass sound that’s very loud).
(As you can see, I made this all up.)
So those are all creatures the thing Has assimilated
Why can't you write the thing expanded universe
La cosa no es inteligente
Solo consume
Se cree dios y quiere que toda la galaxia sea a su imagen
No respeta la vida inteligente
Si lo hiciera intentaria comunicarse y no atacar
Y como especie si una raza nos da ls mano debemos escuchar primero antes de apuntar con un arma
HAHAA YOU FACE!!!
@@dominmaj9682 the thing cannot imitate organisms that contain some pathogen, such as hepatitis, the flu, etc., Kate probably had some virus and the thing could never imitate it, she only tried to kill it, that is the case of the doctor in the 1982 thing, in the moment he is reviving the fat thing he is bitten but he is not infected...
As someone who considers The Thing (82) to be their favorite horror film of all time and one of their top 10 films ever. I really enjoyed this film. I liked how it linked with the original and foudn it quite entertaining. I liked how The Entity was more aggressive in this film because it had never encounter any life on this planet till now so it had no idea what we were capable of or hoe intelligent we are. It didn't know what level our tech was and whether it could pose a threat. So it thought it could be more aggressive but it found out by the end of the film that it must be more covert so it changed it tactics by the time it reached the US station. Overall a good prequel and every time I feel like watching The Thing I always watch this first.
I really had hoped that this film would spawn a sequel to itself as well as the original. Kate finds her way to the Russian station and even though this was during the time of the Cold War the Russians at their station agreed to take Kate to the US station of course getting their after everything went down there and the Russians find the two frozen bodies of Childs and MacReady and well the story goes form there.
I would have it where Kate gets lost in the storm and stumbles upon Childs and MacReady. Then they all head to the Russian base. And I figured out a way to create more shenanigans at the Russian base without Childs or MacReady being a thing. At the Norweigen base a dog runs out to the America base. Lars follows that dog. Once the coast is clear another dog jumps out and runs to the Russian base. It sounds like a cop out but it fits the Thing's thinking. It would double it's chances to spread this way. That way if one dog dies the other would still make it to another base and continue to spread. And who says there has to be only one dog anyways.
@@RamrodAI the thing cannot imitate organisms that contain some pathogen, such as hepatitis, the flu, etc., Kate probably had some virus and the thing could never imitate it, she only tried to kill it, that is the case of the doctor in the 1982 thing, in the moment he is reviving the fat thing he is bitten but he is not infected...
@@RamrodAI And who says the dog didn't morph to a penguin (an animal that thrives in cold) b4 entering the Russian camp and Kate's too late and just as penguins attack Kate, Macready shows up with a torch.
If they kept the practical effects, which I heard were amazing, it would have been an awesome prequel
As another fan of the original, as well as the short story, I didn't care for it. I felt like it was a remake in disguise and that Mary Elizabeth Winstead was _chronically_ miscast. I'd rather have seen a Scandie actress like, for example, Noomi Rapace coming forward to lead the Norwegian faction, teaming up with the de facto head of the Americans as both groups fall into mistrust.
The first appearance of the Thing, where it just smashes shrieking out of the ice, stinks. First off, I think the Thing should've been a bizarre hodge-podge at that point, because it makes sense to me that after escaping the ship originally, it would've started rapidly transforming, 'shuffling' through its repertoire in an (unsuccessful) attempt to find a shape that could survive the cold.
Secondly, I would much rather have seen the Thing revive stealthily and successfully attack and absorb their first human in full view of the audience. This is how the first attack in the original short story works and I feel it would make for a compelling source of tension that wasn't in Carpenter's movie to have someone walking around that the audience _knows_ is the Thing while those around them are oblivious. The Thing in this movie seems in many ways a completely different character to what it was in the Carpenter one.
-Can imitate any living creature
-Can't spit something out
He wasn't her boyfriend
I think the audience was expected to see the potential, by virtue of the shared experience they both had of facing such mind numbing horror, of a romance.
He was actually. He was her friend, so he's her boy friend Lol
@Black Man this is the perfect affirmation ! They didn't know each other.
I wish he was.....they looked cute together...
69 likes, I'm just gonna leave it at that
That power source looks like the one from pixels
Originally there was going to be an alien in its place but it got replaced during production. The director called this version of the movie : The Tetris Cut
Red Hood 23 fuck it would’ve been cooler with an alien there
It was the pilot- thing I think
I guess the thing's first assimilated body had a very little or no time to learn how to control the ship after the assimilation and before crashing to earth.
same actress doing exactly the same thing in 10 cloverfeild lane
Oh yeah lol
“Do you have any skills?”
Kate - “Well for some reason I have the tendency to blow up aliens with big gaping mouths”
“....you’re hired”
Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
John McClane's daughter.
@Han Lockhart she beta than u
Supposedly, when the Thing assimilates someone, it has their memories, correct? Then why wouldn't the Carter / Thing have known which ear to put the earring in?
It might have been rushing so it may have forgot to put in on
He was supposed to put on the left ear.. if it was the other ear, it caused him to be flaming..
Maybe Carter forgot he even had the ear ring on?... after so many years of wearing it.
mirror copy theory when it copies you what id does is mirror you this gives it away...
could always be that the beast is imperfect in the end. Lame option but plausible.
If I were Kate, I wouldn't get into the snowmobile so easily, knowing that thing was sitting there. She might have found a surprise in the form of a hand in the back seat.
You know, in both movies, The Thing has been constructing a UFO. In the original movie, Blair is worried about it destroying the entire human population. But I have sometimes wondered if its real goal is to just acquire the means to get into space and return to its home. Everything it does, everyone it kills, is just survival instinct until it can complete that objective. Interesting theory to ponder.
The Thing wasn't constructing a UFO in either film. He crashlanded after having assimilated the aliens that did build the UFO.
@@silasgenovese3572 The Thing 0 : A chaos on spaceship.
I like you’re theory ; we would many of great conversations on horror movies
Now that is a good theory. The Thing trying to leave is a good thought.
Now I’m imagining the thing incompetently trying to pilot a spaceship and slamming into the earth
She's extremely observant ain't she...
She was always checking him out so of course she noticed
An observation skill known as, "Attention to Detail".
Well I didn't understand what she observed... Could anyone please explain?😅😅😅
@@emamibhattacharjee1874 She saw that the earring on the Thing!Carter was not present.
She didn't miss a thing! U_U
Came into to see people rip this stupid title...was not disappointed👍
shut up simp she'll never be yours she's mine
"boyfriend"?
She was more frigid than the surrounding environment.
Plot twist: He was not a thing. He just had a funny scream.
Plot twist : He's just have a funny skeleton, that looks like a thing from space
0:54 thats when the thing attacked carter you can hear the sound of it moving
its actually 0:56
When you’re an alien that can imitate other life forms perfectly but you don’t understand how to act as someone in a relationship
It can be explained away as The Thing still trying to absorbe those memories. It's like you get a model kit and the instructions, you won't know how to put together the model kit without looking at the instructions first. The Thing may have this memories, but it probably has no idea how to properly use them because it hadn't had enough time to study those memories.
@@terminator572 +1
I think it would've been much more powerful, and much more fitting with the theme of paranoia, if Carter had actually been human when Kate burnt him.
lol
Should've kept it ambiguous
@@MidgeCat How?
@@MidgeCat They did that in the first movie. Repeating that would have cheapened it.
Kate".........whoop"
Plot twist: it was really him and he'd just dropped the earing.
Plot twist: The earing is the Thing
Earrings are a thing because we made them
Meanwhile we are also things that walk and talk
Bro, what a creepy scream you have, like some sort of an alien
It’s the ending moment in this movie and the 80’s OG film that I find the most interesting.
As monstrous as the Thing is, and as inhuman and un-empathetic as it is, it’s still an intelligent creature. If there was a situation where it had no reason to kill you, you could simply sit there and talk to it.
If we go off the theory in the end of the first film that one of either Childs or Mac were the thing, and were simply going to wait there to freeze to death, and there was no more inhibition to it- you pose no threat to the thing, and it has no need to assimilate you, what would it say? Would it still pretend to be the person it assimilated? Would it speak from its own perspective? Is it even capable of rationalizing itself as an individual?
The short story it's based off of implies that it always has a reason to kill you: it views it as liberatory, as saving you from entropy and death. While I agree with the rest, I don't think you could ever have a conversation with a Thing in which it isn't, at the very least, subtly trying to manipulate you in the same way one steers a toddler towards making good decisions with reverse psychology.
@@keyabrade1861 Very true. It’s so inhuman, it probably wouldn’t have any means or desire to communicate beyond trying to keep to the imitation or manipulating, as you say.
Boyfriend? More like potential love interest, *if* it had an happier ending.
monalisasmile More like an old flame.. things really heated up in the end...
@@Pb-fj1mv literally
This is one of the top smartest decisions that a main character do.
Quite a way to end a relationship.
2:30 - Kate died right there. That's it. The second that thing even touches you, just say prayers because it has probably left something on you, being the multicellular organism it is.
3:18 - Kate also died here. She's stuck in an alien vent of some sort, and the thing has no reason not to split it's head off into another thing so that it can proceed to attack her, let alone using its biomass to shift mass into its head or tentacles so that it elongates itself to reach her. Anyone familiar with the Norris Thing should know that this creature has no excuse not to.
4:46 - Kate died again, that thing grabs your leg, it wouldn't let go, it'd just merge it's way into your leg and fuse with you. No point dragging you out of a vent, when you're in a tight spot with no room to go to.
5:08 - and Kate died here too. So she threw a grenade into its mouth, suddenly it chokes? Nah, it would still lunge at her and eat her face, then assimilate her. Whether it would spit out the bomb or not is up to you to think about.
Now, don't get me wrong, I loved this movie, it was fun. A pretty faithful prequel compared to other franchises in terms of story setting.
But unfortunately, this film falls into the trap where the monster is forced to make stupid decisions so the protagonist has a chance, but that kinda ruins the immersion.
It has to kill you first, or weaken you (blood loss) as your active immune system will prevent infection. Once dead or injured you become susceptible. This is what id like to believe but the thing merging with that one dude while he was alive destroys that theory. Same with the one dog infecting others by spraying goo.
not a bad theory, i guess it just depends on the thing itself. maybe some are smarter than others, or maybe transforming affects their behaviour vastly that from being controlled and composed, they become erratic and slightly uncoordinated.
that said, i still don't like the trope of making a monster do something that goes against it's own nature in order to let the leading characters defeat it. seeing Kate in the vents was probably the moment she was supposed to die. or otherwise, be assimilated by force.
although speaking of theories, maybe the Thing being able to fuse it's tissue with its host is less of an "instant assimilation" method, and more of a "ensnare the host into your body, and assimilate overtime" sort of thing. like if i were a spider, and i wanted to eat two flies, but i don't want one to run away while i eat the other, i trap them in a web and i eat them both in my own time.@@sacr3
If youre wondering why the thing didnt assimilate her, my guess is it wanted to get to a more populated area, and/or wanted her to lower her guard in the truck. The population theory is much easier to understand as its two goals are assimilate and survive. If it feels too threatened, it freezes so it can survive. My guess is that it wanted to ensure it got somewhere else with people, as thats the more favorable outcome. Why not assimilate Kate? Simple, two separate Things have two separate ways of achieving the same goal. Its best to keep the human alive to ensure passive compliance, than have another one of your kind trying to take apart your very escape vehicle to build a ship or anything similar.
Its far from airtight, as he should have just assimilated her as soon as they were alone and absorbed her to avoid any and all threat, but to the Things perspective, it isnt a ginormous stretch. The Thing isnt smart, it just works on fakin it till you make it. If it were smart, it should have simply slowly infected the water/blood supply (not destroy) and perhaps split itself up to launch an ambush. Hell it could have simply split itself up into smaller parts and chucked itself and its blood at people. Its problem isnt intelligence, its faking it till you make it, and knowledge from those its assimilated. At least from what ive gathered.
Or a simpler way of looking at it was because she had a flamethrower...
También tengo la teoría de que debido a que está es una precuela, es la primera vez que tiene comunicación con los humanos y desconozce muchas cosas de los humanos, actúa de manera más instintiva y menos inteligente
La cosa aprendio la lección en el la peli original y actuó de manera más calmada e inteligente
I don't think The Parasite would've Attacked her in the snowcat because there'd still be traces of blood left people could find once it arrived. It's more likely The Thing wanted to get to the populated vicinity with Kate to look less suspicious and take advantage of the Russians, lack of awareness so it could assimilate them individually when it had the chance to do so unnoticed.
Mary Elizabeth Winstead is great.... But the movie doesn't live up the '82 edition.
I'm glad she got to do a much better horror film with 10 Cloverfield Lane.
One of the things I could appreciate about the prequel was seeing how the things technology worked.
its not the crew of the ship its a virus or something the aliens made to heal or they found it on a planet an accident the thing takes over your body slow from within cells replacing yours youll realize it probably see your vision fade away and body control notice the horror on that girls face when she splits in two bending over backwards only half of her was assimilated but it was enough so it takes time the thing was weak so i think time without new fresh cells which is why it froze on purpose would stop it entirely it must need new infusions to stay fully alive.. so having it out in a desert no one around after a certain time that would be it for the thing fire only damages it to the point it can be stopped tempraily cell activity is still present just not enough to get back up well maybe that thing on the table did after it was burned so the only real defense is isolation
One of the biggest problems with this whole segment (after which is the fact the Thing just turns into a big, bumbling monster trying to eat her or something when in the original and this film as well contact with the Thing on any level is basically 'game over') is the fact the film makes sure for certain you know this guy was indeed, The Thing.
There isn't any question or doubt - the moment he's torched he starts wailing, screaming and (badly) replicating the sound effects of the original movie. Contrast this with the ending of the original movie, where the last two survivors just sit down and contemplate their impending doom. Either of whom could be infected - what *was* Childs doing out there? Running around in the snow looking for Blair? Really? Plus, MacReady has had enough contact with the rest of the crew to be infected by this point - it only takes one cell. There's a lot of room for audience participation in thinking over what happened and what will happen.
In this Kate just torches the dude. She's probably still alive as well.
I disagree. Being left on a cliffhangers are annoying and frustrating as heck.
I disagree, the movie decided to do something different than the original (at least with its endinglol there's a lot they ripped-off from the og), if it would've indeed choosed to also copy the original ending but with these new characters, it would've lost even more of its already pretty minor identity as a prequel.
If i'm going to give my honest thoughts about this movie, then i'm gonna say that i like it. Sure it may just be the first movie all over again but with difference here and there, but it has a good story and...well it;'s the thing everyone, the most scariest, bloodiest and most gruesome horror monster of all time. Everyone seem to pretend that the advantages about this movie don't exist and always drown the movie over one thing and one thing only. Over the fact that the CGI isn't good.
The fooling you factor is good in it and worth the watch,the bloke on the Chopper and her walking in on her,I liked the way it did it.I enjoyed it the first time as much as the first but only for the reasons stated,the 1982 thing has better actors better movie better director
The thing in this film behaves, sounds, and looks entirely different. It’s a much more generic movie monster than the original (hence why she’s able to easily run away from it in this clip while it just slowly walks towards her). If it even appeared to anyone in the original, they were already assimilated or dead and didn’t know it.
There were actually only practical effect in the beginning but they decided to go full bad CGI instead. Their loss, getting beat by a thirty years older movie.
Im personnaly taken aback by those numerous plot holes, if the ship is operational in a matter of minutes why did the Thing bothered to freeze for a hundred thousand years, why can it split itself again and again at some point but not in this ****ing vent, why did it use fast spear tentacles some times and moves slowly at others… the paranoia, central element in the original, is only superficial here. many characters dont have much of a character developpement….
All in all it wouldnt be such a bad monster movie if it wasnt in the same brand as the original which forces a comparison which can only be bad
They wanted to make the movie with practical effects but the executives wanted a "new" look.
well the writing isn't strong either, the tempo is the same as original which contribute the feeling you already watch this movie before....
She seems to always end up putting monsters to flame. Saw her in 10 Cloverfield Lane 😂
Boyfriend? Yeah sure those two were like the modern day Romeo and Juliet, an unforgettable relationship.
I find this scene to have a major flaw. When Norris was assimilated, he even kept his heart condition. I think the reality of this scene is that the earring wouldn’t have moved. The hole would’ve been in one ear, so even if the thing knew to put it back in, there would only be one spot.
The problem with that is two part. 1: Norris thing was acting to get everyone together and surprise the group.
2. Piercings are not genetic. If you make a clone of yourself, it won't have non-organic add-ons (tattoos, scars, piercings, fillings, etc.) So the last Thing was adapting to the tactics used to identify it, but in this case, it failed a minor detail.
Facebones Norton I don’t think Norris was trying to surprise anyone. The thing seems to operate on survival instinct, first and foremost. I will, however, concede the second point. But I can’t imagine the memories of the person are not fully assimilated to give perfect speech and language ability. It has to have a near perfect memory to hit every single speech queue. Norwegian and whatever dialect it was using isn’t genetic, either. If it can forget something so simplistically easy, I think we would’ve seen more red flags with the way the thing interacted with others.
@@southwest5928 perhaps. But communication is instinctual. Across the known animal kingdom, all creatures communicate. It is an adaptation.
I do think the Thing was trying to get everyone together. Maybe it was hoping that the humans' paranoia would help it eliminate threats. It couldn't isolate itself without arousing suspicion. With the mounting paranoia and wild actions of the humans, it may have thought killing all of them was a better strategy than waiting.
More on the language thing: Memory is, in fact, cellular. It can in theory, be replicated.
The other damning point I have is that the Thing *had* to have had the heart attack on purpose. It regenerates at a cellular level. So damaged tissue regenerates. So it couldn't have had an actual heart attack, because it is impervious to such things due to its mutable form. It can genetically modify itself, so one can assume that it doesn't give itself nearsightedness or other avoidable weaknesses. Otherwise, it would have picked up an array of recessive and damaging traits from all of its previous victims.
My take on Norris was that he ate contaminated food and wasn't wholly a Thing until the Thing cells assimilated his heart in the storeroom, causing him to collapse & die. Meaning Norris had a Thing eating away inside of him & didn't know it, and the heart attacks he had were the Thing's cells eating his.
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So If the thing imitated somebody with tattoos. It wouldn't show up on the copy?
That's a big disadvantage.
If you watch closely when "The Thing / Carter" is getting in the snowmobile, it's trying to quickly familiarize itself with the controls. You can see it's quick bout of confusion as it triggers the wipers before looking back at Kate.
A fine prequel which sets up the 1982 version very well.
Not really. At its core it's a forgettable monster flick that has none of the themes that made its "sequel" so terrifying
@@jeremyallen492 Thanks for the considerate reply.
The cgi also kind of ruins the feel that was there in the original.
I really wish The Thing would have answered a few questions before it got torched
SO THAT GUY WHANT TO SHOW HER HIS THING
Lol
Whole time Carter was human and just forgot what ear he had pierced and Kate subconsciously heard alien cries to make herself feel better for torching a human.
Wait a minute 💀
Well they were alone when she fought against the boss thing. Carter easily was likely assimilated when he was alone.
It should have ended with no screaming so that the viewer could ponder wether or not carter really was a thing, and maybe some sort of hint that teases the idea that Kate could have probably been a thing
3:55 is that something staring at her?
it does look like an eye
All you people saying, "She should have at least tried to talk to it first" are probably the same people that would hide a bite during a zombie outbreak
7:18 i love the small detail here proving his a thing aside from earing, the thing doesnt know how to and confuse about the snow mobile 😂😂😂
I haven't even watched the movie i just love watching clips on CZcams
*It's a great movie.* :D
@@Princess2Warrior cate isnt infected by the thing right?
@@chrisbiersack9753 nope
@@Princess2Warrior Best prequel ever.
This scene would have been much better imo if they didn’t have the scream to make it obvious he was assimilated.
Then the audience would have to wonder if he was really I thing or not from the few clues beforehand.
This is a very underrated movie.
Mary is one of the most beautiful women ever. I’m always drawn to her face like a moth to the light 💡
I personally never understood the fuss over her (she looks pretty much like any other white brunette round-faced actress), but I do like that she has a more natural body type than most celebrities
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New a girl that almost looked like Mary Elizabeth
Or a baseball bat to a television. Her acting suuuuuuuuucked
Jeremy Allen was t talking about her acting. She’s gorgeous. But as far as amber acting goes she’s pretty good in most of her roles
8:40 I'm guessing that the thing assimilated big smoke at some point?
Epic comment
Yeah, like mentioned before they can assimilate organic things
What about the breath theory?
The presumed "Thing" here still has fog coming out of his mouth!
The reason why the thing did not fully remember how to use the snow mobile or the earing is because its still relatively new and not all of the memories have formed yet.
this kate woman whoever she was helped make this film good and believable!!
You know if mackredy and Kate timed up the thing wouint have a chance
Nancy Vervalin except that Macready is the thing
Mohammed Abunayyan no it was child's actually
Nope. Watch the original with the idea that MacReady became the thing, early on. It'll fuck with your head. Lol!
Dabmaster Flex I have always thought it was child but after further examination, it turned out that Mac was the thing, the vapor from mouth theory was debunked by childs in an interview stating it was because he was closest to the fire. Mac tampered with the tests and thats why no one suspected it was him
For all the people saying Mac is the thing he’s not, because if you watch a certain video you will see that it’s childs specifically because the person shows you a lot of proof that it’s childs.
One of the best prequels
How, did a fricken, animal manage to build a space ship...
How do you think the creatures come here. Without the spaceship.
the spaceship is of another alien not of the thing, the thing killed the crew of that spaceship (probably the pilot tried to land on the earth because of the thing).
@@fatalcode4996 In the original movie the thing built a spaceship out of spare parts from human machines within a matter of days. You only see it as an animal because you are racist/alienist/thingist
@@-BuddyGuy When "the thing" assimilate obtains a small part of knowledge of the victim even if tries to build that little spaceship it won't fly because "the thing" can't understand how it works.
@@fatalcode4996 So your original story was that he stole the spaceship but now that I've proven he built it, you have an entirely new theory, different from your first. I'm calling bullshit
The thing is a shapeshifter, so it should be able to squeeze itself through even the tiniest of holes.
That is true.
I liked this thing prequel! the critics be damned!
I just wish they had kept the practical FX instead of slapping over them with CGI like they did.
Why are the character's and the ship it self under the fucking ice sheet when in fact in the John Carpenter's version of The Thing they showed the ship being released as the Norwegians blow the ice layer apart as McCready and his crew saw it happened on video...
This prequel is already to be damned because it has disqualified it self as a connection to the 1982 original...
Fuck Kate and fuck this unconnected prequel that couldn't hold a candle to the 1982 original...
They could have done the cgi so much better as well.
@@claydogmadman6295 *The ship would be under a layer of snow at that point anyway - because of all the snowfall.*
*The prequel is beautiful and a worthy connection to the 1982 film.*
I always thought Kate would make a great Ripley if they ever redid any of the earlier Alien movies.
Mary was very well cast in this prequel. It was have been interesting to see what became of Kate after this shock ending.
BBQ Thing for dinner. Hey, ya gotta eat.
Would love to see a Predator and Alien tie in to this movie..
alien would of won acid blood predator would of turned but would of transmitted the genome of the thing to its world where they would perfect against protecting one another since they are advanced then prolly used it to make monsters to hunt etc
the perfect organism cannot be assimilated krappa
Instead of it being obvious that Carter is a Thing, I'd rather they had written the earring subplot differently to make a much better ending. Give Carter a much more emotional and convincing scene. Make the audience believe he is human. Have Kate crying and struggling with herself as she points the flame at him, half of her believing him and half of her being terrified of him. Finally, she decides to burn him because she can't take the risk. He burns but we don't hear him scream and it's left ambiguous to the audience and to Kate if he was the real Carter or not.
Love the earring bit
I like the technologies we get a glimpse of. The engines of the space craft are well done and the moving pixels computer column might be the brain of the vehicle.
Kate and Macready are the only ones who can fight the thing.
How exactly is this guy supposed to be her boyfriend? I'm not even sure there was any light flirting here.
Quereria muito saber qual foi o final da Kate na história desse filme? Ela escapou?
Carter was supposed to be assimilated, but the setup for that ending was too weak. There were too many inconsistencies for Carter's assimilation to occur.
1.) The timeline does not permit it. Too little time passed for an assimilation
2.) The assimilation process is violent. Victims have their clothes shred more often than not. There wasn't even so much as a spatter of blood on Carter's clothes, let alone any serious ripping (yes, I know that one guy was slowly being assimilated by that arm-thing, but again, it would have taken too long and I cannot believe that Carter wouldn't kill himself or blow himself up in the process considering what was happening).
3.) Why assist Kate in escaping? Carter easily could have joined the other Thing in subduing Kate (or could have outright killed her like the Thing did to Fuchs in the 1982 film) and still accomplished its purpose. There was no logical reason for an assimilated Carter to want to escape. The Thiakol was outside, could have easily been driven by him without needing her. Didn't make sense.
J. Dean my point exactly. The ending did not make sense
All things considered... I'd have left the bitch to her fate.
Everything you say here is spot on! The only thing I can add is two key point's.
1:Timeline: As Blair did to poor Garry in the storeroom he assimilated Garry so fast and quick. So as hard to believe it so I could kind of see him being taken by surprise and rather go for a violent assimilation go for a quick one. That way he keeps his clothes' on him and can better trick Kate into believing he's still human. But it's just a theory. Garry was just killed I believe because Blair didn't have time for a assimilation because it takes too much time so again grain of salt.
2:Escape? I believe that the thing in carter actually had a better reason for not attacking Kate. I read a fanfiction that read that the thing has a higher intelligence since being around for million's of years. Not all of the thing's share the same goal. Sander's goal was to kill Kate and try and take over the world. As ever thing in the movie but maybe this carter thing was different. Maybe he wanted to truly hide and not revel itself and experience life as a human. Again though I don't stand behind these theories I still dislike this movie a lot. I stand behind that they just got lazy and just added it for another quick OHHHHH AHHHHH.
But If Carter returned alone and now with no filings or in-organics, he'd surely be shot dead by the still-alive and very paranoid Lars, who carter knew was alive before being assimilated. By keeping an alive and unassimilated kate with him, she would have been able to back Carter up out of exhaustion from recent events and her personal disbelief he was assimilated, seeing as Carter, unlike Childs, had a good reason for disappearing as he and Kate were separated when she fell inside. From there he'd be able to assimilate both Lars and Kate, and Matias when he returned. Effectively giving the Cartner-thing more biomass and allowing for a bigger Thing.
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The Thing seem to take a few minutes to assimilate Gary, like the others.
When I keep rewinding this scene I always wondered if the thing was begging for it’s life or if it was trying to convince Kate that the thing was Carter, but either way it could be both
It was begging for its life.
Face and human bits aside, the Thing actually didn't look too bad when stationary. RIP Amalgamated Dynamics and their practical effects for this movie.
I dont care what people say, they need to make a " The Thing 3 ", have it pick up were 1981 the thing left off still using Mary Elizabeth Winstead!
Kate would have preferred the larger thing’s thing👍
Who ever named the title for this video hasn't seen the movie
2:30 And now remember what Blair-thing did in the similar moment.
Blair-Thing's head was a total mess and I loved it. This thing looks like uh... Prefect halloween costume-- Oh wait it's CGI anyways.
I feel you can also tell who's a thing based on the way they talk
This prequel couldn't hold a candle to the 1982 original...
ClayDog MadMan it wasnt bad c’mon now lol
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Riiiiiight...😂✌
ClayDog MadMan lol critic
Candle? Could it hold a flamethrower to the original?
It had more potential if it hadn't ripped off the story line from the 1982 movie. What they should have done is started where the 1982 movie left off... had the thing part 2. Or the thing returns. Why copy the same movie? It was stupid to do that.
4:38, i knew it, i fucking knew it.
Kate é muito legal ♥
Mary Elizabeth from final destination 2006.❤
Kate ordered her Carter Thing extra crispy
i think that the spaceship isn't of the thing because its too complex to build something like that. I think that before they landed on the earth there was a crew of another alien species more intelligent than human. The thing killed them (they were trying to land on the closest planet because the thing was killing all the crew). when they crushed in Antarctica the thing has already assimilated the crew, the temperature and the ice froze the thing until the Norwegian scientists found the corpse of the thing.
I remembered watching this part made me jump when she was quietly trying to get the grenade
8:23 YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I like to see The Thing action during summer weather